Re: [efloraofindia:113640] Re: Ficus for id - 11/04/12 - RK

2012-04-17 Thread raman
I am pretty sure now, that we are talking about the same tree.

After the big mysore fig, on the right is the autograph tree and next to it 
is the amla tree,
this tree is to the left of the amla tree.

I will create a map of all the trees in lalbagh, once I know I have covered 
most of them.

Raman


Re: [efloraofindia:113640] Re: Ficus for id - 11/04/12 - RK

2012-04-17 Thread ranjini kamath
Do not know the 2 trees you have mentioned.Look frwrd to the map.It
will be so useful.
Regards

On 4/17/12, raman raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com wrote:
 I am pretty sure now, that we are talking about the same tree.

 After the big mysore fig, on the right is the autograph tree and next to it
 is the amla tree,
 this tree is to the left of the amla tree.

 I will create a map of all the trees in lalbagh, once I know I have covered
 most of them.

 Raman



[efloraofindia:113642] Valley of Flowers ; permission/registration required?

2012-04-17 Thread Rajesh Sachdev
Dear efI members,

Kindly suggest if any permission or earlier registration is required t be
done for Valley of Flowers at forest department or GMVN (Garhwal Mandal
Vikas Nigam rest houses)?

-- 
Regards
Rajesh Sachdev
http://project-matheran.webs.com/
http://www.facebook.com/leopardguy


Re: [efloraofindia:113643] Star gooseberry from Dombivli-MN150412 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-17 Thread mani nair
Thanks Rathina ji for the appreciation.
Regards,
Mani

On 4/17/12, Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy brspa...@gmail.com wrote:
 Beautiful pictures. Thanks for sharing.



 On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:26 AM, mani nair (Google Docs) 
 mani.na...@gmail.com wrote:

[image: Document] I've shared Star gooseberry from
 Dombivli-MN150412https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p_hPPsEMyyLFqZHTMZxMYQM8y5hoa3h96aYpGb4R2U8/edit
 Click to open:

- Star gooseberry from
 Dombivli-MN150412https://docs.google.com/document/d/1p_hPPsEMyyLFqZHTMZxMYQM8y5hoa3h96aYpGb4R2U8/edit



 Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents,
 spreadsheets and presentations.
 [image: Logo for Google Docs] https://docs.google.com/




 --
 B. Rathinasabapathy
 Project Co-ordinator
 Nilgiri Biosphere Nature Park
 1388, Avinashi Road
 Peelamedu
 Coimbatore-641004

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[efloraofindia:113645] Re: Efloraofindia website updated upto 31st March'11- around 6500 species

2012-04-17 Thread satish nikam
Congratulations!Wish you the best!
satish nikam

On Monday, April 16, 2012 8:11:23 AM UTC+5:30, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote:

 Too good. I think after Sir. J.D.Hooker, this is the largest collection. 
 Of course he had plants, we have pics :)
 Congratulations to all the members and special thanks to Garg sir for 
 making us a part of this wonderful community.
 Pankaj



 On Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:14:35 UTC+8, JM Garg wrote:

 Dear members, 

 It's heartening to state again that *Efloraofindia is the largest google 
 e-group in the world *in this field  the largest nature related e-group 
 (and the most constructive) in India with more than 1,10,000 messages so 
 far  membership currently more than 1840 nos. 

 The Efloraofindia website has now been updated upto 31st March'12 along 
 with completion of resurfacing work upto this date.* *Threads from 
 22.3.11 to 29 Feb.’12 could not updated as I am unable to go to old threads 
 threads quickly due to changed settings of new google groups in efi.* **It 
 has the largest database on net on Indian Flora with pictures of more than 
 6500 species.** *You can see it at any time at 
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/home. Members should add 
 this link in their favourites  give species’ links from this while posting 
 or replying in a thread as lot of discussed data is already available 
 here.This will also help the site move up in search results.
  
  
 Intent of this website is compilation of all the posts on 'efloraofindia' 
 e- group along with providing other details so that it’s useful to all 
 concerned as all the data about a particular species will be available 
 under a single head  *easily searchable*. However, correctness of data/ 
 identification in the efloraofindia (earlier indiantreepix) links is 
 dependent on the members’ inputs in that particular link. Therefore, 
 errors/ mistakes cannot be ruled out- everyone is requested to point them 
 out for corrections by sending an e-mail to itpm...@googlegroups.com. 
 Efloraofindia e-group members can add comments about it after 'signing in' 
 at the bottom of the page.

 What is more important is that thousands of observations of hundreds of 
 our members (many of which one will not find documented anywhere) are 
 available here  easily searchable through general web searches as well as 
 search in the efloraofindia. And these are going to increase with every 
 passing day. These original observations will be a treasure trove  will a 
 delight to lot of people.

 With the pace at which new species are being added to our database, it 
 should become the premier resource for taxonomic research in India. As the 
 data is multiplying, we need more volunteers to take up this work. Details 
 can be seen at 
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/volunteers-required/volunteers-required
  
 Kudos  thanks to the moderators, experts  other members who are 
 rendering selfless service on the group  made this endeavor possible for 
 the benefit of everyone.
 -- 
 With regards,
 J.M.Garg
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora  Fauna'
 The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* 
 eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged 
 alphabetically  place-wise): 
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use 
 them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
 For identification, learning, discussion  documentation of Indian Flora, 
 please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group: 
 http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1840 members  
 1,10,000 messages on 31/3/12) or Efloraofindia website: 
 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database 
 of more than 6000 species).
 Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata  Common Birds of 
 India'. 



[efloraofindia:113646] Request Tree ID 088 - Bangalore - RA - Is it some terminalia

2012-04-17 Thread raman


https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ge3QDyhDYwA/T402whZxXaI/AaY/ysOUCTs-M0M/s1600/ZZ+Unknown+088+Tree+-+Leaf.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NHQFTT6L7gc/T4020QUQ9oI/Aak/u1PxtiUS_RI/s1600/ZZ+Unknown+088+Tree+-+Fruit.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B1BDiUAKeSc/T4024mTY9rI/Aaw/p-zu90r5_7s/s1600/ZZ+Unknown+088+Tree+-+Canopy.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cTQnR1X_Xwo/T4028tA94OI/Aa8/PaLWAEvhMQI/s1600/ZZ+Unknown+088+Tree+-+Bark.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FLhohJXvjBg/T403BP1WkhI/AbI/pLtJcJ5STrA/s1600/ZZ+Unknown+088+Tree+-+0005.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dJMUKRXtBmc/T402rUB3ZFI/AaM/vYiMCmgXT9k/s1600/ZZ+Unknown+088+Tree+-+Spent+Fruit.jpg
Indiranagar, Bangalore

Thanks,
Raman


Re: [efloraofindia:113646] Request Tree ID 088 - Bangalore - RA - Is it some terminalia

2012-04-17 Thread ajinkya gadave
*Ficus lyrata*

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:55 PM, raman raman_arunacha...@yahoo.com wrote:


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-ge3QDyhDYwA/T402whZxXaI/AaY/ysOUCTs-M0M/s1600/ZZ+Unknown+088+Tree+-+Leaf.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NHQFTT6L7gc/T4020QUQ9oI/Aak/u1PxtiUS_RI/s1600/ZZ+Unknown+088+Tree+-+Fruit.jpg


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-B1BDiUAKeSc/T4024mTY9rI/Aaw/p-zu90r5_7s/s1600/ZZ+Unknown+088+Tree+-+Canopy.jpg


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-cTQnR1X_Xwo/T4028tA94OI/Aa8/PaLWAEvhMQI/s1600/ZZ+Unknown+088+Tree+-+Bark.jpg


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-FLhohJXvjBg/T403BP1WkhI/AbI/pLtJcJ5STrA/s1600/ZZ+Unknown+088+Tree+-+0005.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-dJMUKRXtBmc/T402rUB3ZFI/AaM/vYiMCmgXT9k/s1600/ZZ+Unknown+088+Tree+-+Spent+Fruit.jpg
 Indiranagar, Bangalore

 Thanks,
 Raman



Re: [efloraofindia:113649] Kalatope id (Dam side) Al041612 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-17 Thread Alok Mahendroo
Thank you very much Nidhan ji... as usual your valuable learning is a
big help...
regards
Alok


On Tue, 2012-04-17 at 06:39 +0530, Nidhan Singh wrote:
 Lepidagathis incurva
-- 
Himalayan Village Education Trust
Village Khudgot,
P.O. Dalhousie
District Chamba
H.P. 176304, India

www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
www.forwildlife.wordpress.com
http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on_new=trueid=2186



Re: [efloraofindia:113651] Mussaenda frondosa L. from Hooghly

2012-04-17 Thread surajit koley
Thank you Sir for appreciation and confirming the ID as well.

Regards,

Surajit Koley


On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 8:10 AM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks for very nice pics Surajit Ji...
 --
 Regards,

 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227




Re: [efloraofindia:113652] Re: Eclipta prostrata ? from Hooghly 15-04-12 SK

2012-04-17 Thread surajit koley
Thank you very much Sir for all these informations on this plant.

It helped me in various ways -

1) Books are of little use : while going through the text book 'Plant
Groups' for the ID of this plant i noticed that the Bengali name given to
this plant was mentioned as KESUTTI. But your mail confirms that it is
KESHUT, the name we are familiar with.

2) Very little info on medicinal properties : i was only aware of its use
in hair care. Didn't know its other uses.

3) Vernacular names : now i know that KESHUT  BHRINGRAJ are names of the
same plant.

Regards,

Surajit


On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Mahadeswara swamy.c...@gmail.com wrote:

 Very important medicinal plant.  Some common names  are : Keshut, Maka,
 False Daisy, Marsh Daisy, yerba de tago, bhangra, Trailing eclipta • Hindi:
 भ्रिंगराज Bhringaraj, केशराज Kesharaj • Manipuri: Uchi-sumbal • Tamil:
 கரிசிலாங்கண்ணி Karisilanganni, Kavanthakara • Malayalam: Kannunni • Telugu:
 Galagara • Kannada: Ajagara • Oriya: Kesarda • Sanskrit: भ्रिंगराज
 Bhringaraj -
 In the *Tamil* tradition of Siddha medicine the plant is used for many
 diseases .  In *ayurvedic* medicine, the leaf extract is considered a
 powerful liver tonic, rejuvenate, and especially good for the hair. A black
 dye obtained from *Eclipta prostrata* is used for dyeing hair and
 tattooing. *Eclipta prostrata* also has traditional external uses, such
 as for athlete's foot, eczema and dermatitis, and on the scalp to address
 hair loss; the leaves have been used in the treatment of scorpion stings.
 It is used as anti-venom against snakebite in China and Brazil (Mors,
 1991). It is reported to improve hair growth and color (Kritikar and Basu
 1975 and Chopra *et al.* 1955)
 (The above text is quoted from wikipedia etc. from the websites).




[efloraofindia:113653] Al041712 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-17 Thread Alok Mahendroo (Google Docs)

Attached: Untitled document.html
Sent using Google Docs http://docs.google.com/

Dear friends,
Another one of those tiny flowers from Chamera Dam for id...

Location Kalatope, Chamba
Altitude 1200 mts
Habit Herb
Habitat wild
Height 12 inches
Season April

regards
Alok


Re: [efloraofindia:113654] Eclipta prostrata ? from Hooghly 15-04-12 SK

2012-04-17 Thread surajit koley
Thank you Sir very much for appreciating and confirming the ID.

Regards,

Surajit


On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy 
brspa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Beautiful pictures.
 Thanks for sharing.
 BRS


 --
 B. Rathinasabapathy
 Project Co-ordinator
 Nilgiri Biosphere Nature Park
 1388, Avinashi Road
 Peelamedu
 Coimbatore-641004

 http://mail.google.com/subscribe.mhtml






Re: [efloraofindia:113655] Re: plant id from ludhiana

2012-04-17 Thread RANJIT AHLUWALIA
thank you very much  ji for your kind help
thanks and regards

On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:32 PM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.com wrote:

 *Strophanthus* species indeed. Not sure about the species.
 Family : Apocynaceae


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Tabish tabi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Goat Horns (Strophanthus divaricatus)

 http://www.efloras.org/gallery_image.aspx?flora_id=600gallery_id=1109image_id=1550
   - Tabish

 
 www.flowersofindia.net
 The waterhole of flower lovers.




 --
 Dr Satish Phadke




-- 
*Ranjit Singh **
Assistant Professor of Floriculture
Department of Floriculture  and Landscaping
Punjab Agricultural University ,Ludhiana 141004
mob no 09463140872*


Re: [efloraofindia:113656] DV :: 08APR12 - 1023 :: ¿ Heterophragma quadriloculare ? at Yeoor Hills

2012-04-17 Thread Neil Soares
Hi Dinesh, 
  It is more likely to be Kharsing [Radermachera xylocarpa]. Please refer to my 
mail on this dated 2nd March 2012 in the thread :
 
Re: MS-020312 -79 ID requested - Bignoniaceae
 
   With regards,
 Neil.
  

--- On Tue, 4/17/12, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:113648] DV :: 08APR12 - 1023 :: ¿ Heterophragma 
quadriloculare ? at Yeoor Hills
To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:57 PM



Dear friends ... would like to know if this plant is Heterophragma 
quadriloculare OR some other member of Bignoniaceae

Place: at Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park), Mumbai.
Time: April 8, 2012 at 10.23am
Habit: deciduous tree
Habitat: mixed deciduous forest


 
... more views:

 


Regards.
Dinesh 

Re: [efloraofindia:113657] aquatic herb ID from Hooghly 17-04-12 SK

2012-04-17 Thread Neil Soares
Hi, 
 This plant is clearly distinct from the one in your previous post.
    With regards,
  Neil Soares.

--- On Tue, 4/17/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:


From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113650] aquatic herb ID from Hooghly 17-04-12 SK
To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 9:45 PM



Thank you Sir for the plant  butterfly ID.


Your Polygonum glabrum inflorescence pictures are superb.


Attaching here a small sized pic of another aquatic plant that i thought was 
the same as this one (with the monkey-puzzle-butterfly). but this attached pic 
doesn't tally with yours shots.


Regards,


Surajit Koley




On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:






Hi,
 My photographs of the C. Marsh Buckwheat :
   
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tOb9St_zAQymFT3J2B1yOuKuE9cxa9U9reVfpK-Yurw/edit
 
 With regards,
   Neil Soares.

--- On Tue, 4/17/12, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113630] aquatic herb ID from Hooghly 17-04-12 SK
To: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com, surajit koley 
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com
Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 9:22 AM







Hi,
 This is the Monkey Puzzle butterfly on Common Marsh Buckwheat [Polygonum 
glabrum].
  With regards,
    Neil Soares. 



Re: [efloraofindia:113658] DV :: 08APR12 - 1023 :: ¿ Heterophragma quadriloculare ? at Yeoor Hills

2012-04-17 Thread Dinesh Valke
Am convinced Neil ji with your thought.
Many thanks.
Regards.
Dinesh



On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hi Dinesh,
   It is more likely to be Kharsing [Radermachera xylocarpa]. Please refer
 to my mail on this dated 2nd March 2012 in the thread :

 Re: MS-020312 -79 ID requested - Bignoniaceae

With regards,
  Neil.


 --- On *Tue, 4/17/12, Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com* wrote:


 From: Dinesh Valke dinesh.va...@gmail.com
 Subject: [efloraofindia:113648] DV :: 08APR12 - 1023 :: ¿ Heterophragma
 quadriloculare ? at Yeoor Hills
 To: efloraofindia indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 8:57 PM


  Dear friends ... would like to know if this plant is *Heterophragma
 quadriloculare* OR some other member of Bignoniaceae
 *Place*: at Yeoor Hills (part of Sanjay Gandhi National Park), Mumbai.
 *Time*: April 8, 2012 at 10.23am
 *Habit*: deciduous tree
 *Habitat*: mixed deciduous forest


 [image: ¿ Heterophragma quadriloculare 
 ?]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7086343813%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzek601z6IXKFYLHvhsVmrl4fHwhqA
 ... *more views*:

 [image: ¿ Heterophragma quadriloculare 
 ?]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7086345427%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzeouGt_PW0La5EzSB93IlbdqCmSBQ
  [image:
 ¿ Heterophragma quadriloculare 
 ?]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7086346687%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzekb9vgRhppvQMGt_tOOExH6nP8hQ
  [image:
 ¿ Heterophragma quadriloculare 
 ?]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6940277968%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzeWUGQ5OBeEc9RbKSUROwsj9z6Scw
  [image:
 ¿ Heterophragma quadriloculare 
 ?]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6940280022%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzfAxiwHUWprkIkdE3cnTk9wFX03hA
  [image:
 ¿ Heterophragma quadriloculare 
 ?]http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F6940281152%2Fsa=Dsntz=1usg=AFrqEzeJCNH664BzLdnHWM6x6WVMVzqsew



 Regards.
 Dinesh




Re: [efloraofindia:113659] aquatic herb ID from Hooghly 17-04-12 SK

2012-04-17 Thread surajit koley
Yes Sir, it is another species, your document (
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tOb9St_zAQymFT3J2B1yOuKuE9cxa9U9reVfpK-Yurw/edit)
tells me so. But, as i said earlier, i thought both were same. However,
i will post a seperate document seeking ID of this one too.

Regards,

Surajit

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Hi,
  This plant is clearly distinct from the one in your previous post.
 With regards,
   Neil Soares.

 --- On *Tue, 4/17/12, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com*wrote:


 From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113650] aquatic herb ID from Hooghly 17-04-12
 SK
 To: Neil Soares drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
 Cc: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 9:45 PM

  Thank you Sir for the plant  butterfly ID.

 Your *Polygonum* *glabrum* inflorescence pictures are superb.

 Attaching here a small sized pic of another aquatic plant that i thought
 was the same as this one (with the monkey-puzzle-butterfly). but this
 attached pic doesn't tally with yours shots.

 Regards,

 Surajit Koley



 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Neil Soares 
 drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
  wrote:

   Hi,
  My photographs of the C. Marsh Buckwheat :


 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tOb9St_zAQymFT3J2B1yOuKuE9cxa9U9reVfpK-Yurw/edit

  With regards,
Neil Soares.

 --- On *Tue, 4/17/12, Neil Soares 
 drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
 * wrote:


 From: Neil Soares 
 drneilsoa...@yahoo.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=drneilsoa...@yahoo.com
 
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113630] aquatic herb ID from Hooghly 17-04-12
 SK
 To: 
 indiantreepix@googlegroups.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegroups.com,
 surajit koley 
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comhttp://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com
 
 Date: Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 9:22 AM

Hi,
  This is the Monkey Puzzle butterfly on Common Marsh Buckwheat [Polygonum
 glabrum].
   With regards,
 Neil Soares.




Re: [efloraofindia:113660] Re: Efloraofindia website updated upto 31st March'11- around 6500 species

2012-04-17 Thread Balkar Singh
Congrts to Garg ji and All

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 2:14 PM, satish nikam satishnika...@gmail.comwrote:

 Congratulations!Wish you the best!
 satish nikam


 On Monday, April 16, 2012 8:11:23 AM UTC+5:30, Dr Pankaj Kumar wrote:

 Too good. I think after Sir. J.D.Hooker, this is the largest collection.
 Of course he had plants, we have pics :)
 Congratulations to all the members and special thanks to Garg sir for
 making us a part of this wonderful community.
 Pankaj



 On Tuesday, 10 April 2012 13:14:35 UTC+8, JM Garg wrote:

 Dear members,

 It's heartening to state again that *Efloraofindia is the largest
 google e-group in the world *in this field  the largest nature related
 e-group (and the most constructive) in India with more than 1,10,000
 messages so far  membership currently more than 1840 nos.

 The Efloraofindia website has now been updated upto 31st March'12 along
 with completion of resurfacing work upto this date.* *Threads from
 22.3.11 to 29 Feb.’12 could not updated as I am unable to go to old threads
 threads quickly due to changed settings of new google groups in efi.* **It
 has the largest database on net on Indian Flora with pictures of more than
 6500 species.** *You can see it at any time at
 https://sites.google.com/site/**efloraofindia/homehttps://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/home.
 Members should add this link in their favourites  give species’ links from
 this while posting or replying in a thread as lot of discussed data is
 already available here. This will also help the site move up in search
 results.

 Intent of this website is compilation of all the posts on
 'efloraofindia' e- group along with providing other details so that it’s
 useful to all concerned as all the data about a particular species will be
 available under a single head  *easily searchable*. However,
 correctness of data/ identification in the efloraofindia (earlier
 indiantreepix) links is dependent on the members’ inputs in that particular
 link. Therefore, errors/ mistakes cannot be ruled out- everyone is
 requested to point them out for corrections by sending an e-mail to 
 itpm...@googlegroups.com. Efloraofindia e-group members can add
 comments about it after 'signing in' at the bottom of the page.

 What is more important is that thousands of observations of hundreds of
 our members (many of which one will not find documented anywhere) are
 available here  easily searchable through general web searches as well as
 search in the efloraofindia. And these are going to increase with every
 passing day. These original observations will be a treasure trove  will a
 delight to lot of people.

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[efloraofindia:113662] Physalis sp. ID from Hooghly 17-04-12 SK

2012-04-17 Thread surajit koley
Sir,
 
Attaching 2 sets of images, recorded on different dates and on different 
places, but maybe of the same species. Please identify this/these plant(s).
 
Species : UNKNOWN
Habit  Habitat : wild climber (twiner?), roadside, waste places
Date : set-1 = 21-12-2011; set-2 = 22-03-2012
Place : Hooghly
 
SET-1

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QyoXRNCHhFw/T42sqJhwqNI/DlM/5jnCkst5Tas/s1600/physalis_set1_VSCN6402.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Mn27N-M1I6A/T42snia6g8I/DlM/IRT8ANrM4bQ/s1600/physalis_set1_DSCN6310.jpg
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OacTZnVIHEU/T42snsFFLAI/DlM/zH1iHxWHDXo/s1600/physalis_set1_VSCN6400.jpg
 
 
 
SET-2

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z6wPowskGPM/T42s58E-_tI/DlM/CEikcUHR7YE/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0895.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1ThXSCAclZg/T42s8hLnljI/DlM/LxzHW_hhiY4/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0896.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-47f7m1fRlz0/T42s5lNnRjI/DlM/o7BFeRqUpG0/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0899.jpg
 
 
yet another image (recorded on 12-03-2012)...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8J3PkkGPfXI/T42tDxafopI/DlM/cxMcSDvOsuk/s1600/physalis_seed_DSCN0351.jpg
 
 
 
 
Thank you  Regards,
 
Surajit Koley


[efloraofindia:113662] Re: Hydnocarpus ¿ pentandra OR pentandrus ?

2012-04-17 Thread ajmal
thanks for the info Dr.pankaj kumar
can you get the pdf version of the above document please.
{Hydnocarpus pentandra (Buch.-Ham.) Oken Allg. Naturgesch. iii. (2) 1381 
(1841)}


On Tuesday, 3 May 2011 00:15:47 UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote:

 Dear friends,

 Would like to know the reasoning for both spellings being used: *Hydnocarpus 
 pentandra* AND *Hydnocarpus pentandrus.**

 *Sites like NPGS / GRIN, The Plants List maintain *Hydnocarpus pentandrus*
 .
 Am sure, Tabish and Shrikant ji have given a thought too, to this 
 discrepancy and have reasoned to keep *Hydnocarpus pentandra *in their 
 notes*.

 *Regards.
 Dinesh*
 * 



Re: [efloraofindia:113663] Physalis sp. ID from Hooghly 17-04-12 SK

2012-04-17 Thread Tanay Bose
Hi Surajit Ji.
This not a Physalis sp. from Solanaceae rather Cardiospermum
halicacabum from the family
Sapindaceae.
Cheers
Tanay


On 17 April 2012 11:08, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir,

 Attaching 2 sets of images, recorded on different dates and on different
 places, but maybe of the same species. Please identify this/these plant(s).

 Species : UNKNOWN
 Habit  Habitat : wild climber (twiner?), roadside, waste places
 Date : set-1 = 21-12-2011; set-2 = 22-03-2012
 Place : Hooghly

 SET-1


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QyoXRNCHhFw/T42sqJhwqNI/DlM/5jnCkst5Tas/s1600/physalis_set1_VSCN6402.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Mn27N-M1I6A/T42snia6g8I/DlM/IRT8ANrM4bQ/s1600/physalis_set1_DSCN6310.jpg

 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OacTZnVIHEU/T42snsFFLAI/DlM/zH1iHxWHDXo/s1600/physalis_set1_VSCN6400.jpg



 SET-2


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z6wPowskGPM/T42s58E-_tI/DlM/CEikcUHR7YE/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0895.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1ThXSCAclZg/T42s8hLnljI/DlM/LxzHW_hhiY4/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0896.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-47f7m1fRlz0/T42s5lNnRjI/DlM/o7BFeRqUpG0/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0899.jpg


 yet another image (recorded on 12-03-2012)...


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8J3PkkGPfXI/T42tDxafopI/DlM/cxMcSDvOsuk/s1600/physalis_seed_DSCN0351.jpg




 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley




-- 
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Department of Botany.
University of British Columbia .
6270 University Blvd.
Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
  604-822-2019 (Lab)
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Re: [efloraofindia:113664] Physalis sp. ID from Hooghly 17-04-12 SK

2012-04-17 Thread surajit koley
Oh! searched the net for various *Physalis* sp. for an hour and
was thinking why i failed to get any positive result !!!

Thank you very much Tanay Sir :)

Regards,

Surajit

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Surajit Ji.
 This not a Physalis sp. from Solanaceae rather Cardiospermum
 halicacabum from the family
 Sapindaceae.
 Cheers
 Tanay


 On 17 April 2012 11:08, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sir,

 Attaching 2 sets of images, recorded on different dates and on different
 places, but maybe of the same species. Please identify this/these plant(s).

 Species : UNKNOWN
 Habit  Habitat : wild climber (twiner?), roadside, waste places
 Date : set-1 = 21-12-2011; set-2 = 22-03-2012
 Place : Hooghly

 SET-1

 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QyoXRNCHhFw/T42sqJhwqNI/DlM/5jnCkst5Tas/s1600/physalis_set1_VSCN6402.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Mn27N-M1I6A/T42snia6g8I/DlM/IRT8ANrM4bQ/s1600/physalis_set1_DSCN6310.jpg
 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OacTZnVIHEU/T42snsFFLAI/DlM/zH1iHxWHDXo/s1600/physalis_set1_VSCN6400.jpg



 SET-2

 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z6wPowskGPM/T42s58E-_tI/DlM/CEikcUHR7YE/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0895.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1ThXSCAclZg/T42s8hLnljI/DlM/LxzHW_hhiY4/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0896.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-47f7m1fRlz0/T42s5lNnRjI/DlM/o7BFeRqUpG0/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0899.jpg


 yet another image (recorded on 12-03-2012)...


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8J3PkkGPfXI/T42tDxafopI/DlM/cxMcSDvOsuk/s1600/physalis_seed_DSCN0351.jpg




 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
 tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*
 UBC Botany , Berbee Lab http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 UBC Botany, People http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 EfloraofIndia https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/





Re: [efloraofindia:113665] Physalis sp. ID from Hooghly 17-04-12 SK

2012-04-17 Thread Giby Kuriakose
Yes it is  *Cardiospermum halicacabum *

Regards
Giby




On 18 April 2012 00:09, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Oh! searched the net for various *Physalis* sp. for an hour and
 was thinking why i failed to get any positive result !!!

 Thank you very much Tanay Sir :)

 Regards,

 Surajit

 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Surajit Ji.
 This not a Physalis sp. from Solanaceae rather Cardiospermum
 halicacabum from the family
 Sapindaceae.
 Cheers
 Tanay


 On 17 April 2012 11:08, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sir,

 Attaching 2 sets of images, recorded on different dates and on different
 places, but maybe of the same species. Please identify this/these plant(s).

 Species : UNKNOWN
 Habit  Habitat : wild climber (twiner?), roadside, waste places
 Date : set-1 = 21-12-2011; set-2 = 22-03-2012
 Place : Hooghly

 SET-1

 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QyoXRNCHhFw/T42sqJhwqNI/DlM/5jnCkst5Tas/s1600/physalis_set1_VSCN6402.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Mn27N-M1I6A/T42snia6g8I/DlM/IRT8ANrM4bQ/s1600/physalis_set1_DSCN6310.jpg
 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OacTZnVIHEU/T42snsFFLAI/DlM/zH1iHxWHDXo/s1600/physalis_set1_VSCN6400.jpg



 SET-2

 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z6wPowskGPM/T42s58E-_tI/DlM/CEikcUHR7YE/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0895.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1ThXSCAclZg/T42s8hLnljI/DlM/LxzHW_hhiY4/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0896.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-47f7m1fRlz0/T42s5lNnRjI/DlM/o7BFeRqUpG0/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0899.jpg


 yet another image (recorded on 12-03-2012)...


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8J3PkkGPfXI/T42tDxafopI/DlM/cxMcSDvOsuk/s1600/physalis_seed_DSCN0351.jpg




 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
 tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*
 UBC Botany , Berbee Lab http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 UBC Botany, People http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 EfloraofIndia https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/






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Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE),
Royal Enclave,
Jakkur Post, Srirampura
Bangalore- 560064
India
Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile)
visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby


Re: [efloraofindia:113666] Al041712 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-17 Thread Nidhan Singh
Alok Ji,

This looks like Stellaria media, a common sight here, this is a nearby
guess, the flowers in Stellaria are tiny, with white, bilobed
petalslook for opened flowers nearby to confirm the identity...--
Regards,

Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:113667] Physalis sp. ID from Hooghly 17-04-12 SK

2012-04-17 Thread Nidhan Singh
Surajit Ji,

Nice pics. Cardiospermum helicacabum indeed, look for a heart shaped scar
on the seeds where they are attached to the fruit wallclearly visible
in ripe fruits, when you forcefully remove the seeds...
-- 
Regards,

Dr. Nidhan Singh
Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:113668] Re: ID Assistance please

2012-04-17 Thread Nidhan Singh
Definitely a Sonchus sp. , leaves should be there to reach to sp.
id...still a guess, this can be S. oleraceous..

-- 
Regards,

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Department of Botany
I.B. (PG) College
Panipat-132103 Haryana
Ph.: 09416371227


Re: [efloraofindia:113669] Physalis sp. ID from Hooghly 17-04-12 SK

2012-04-17 Thread surajit koley
Good morning Sir
Thank you for confirming... i searched a lot on *Physalis* :)

Regards,

Surajit


On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Giby Kuriakose
giby.kuriak...@gmail.comwrote:

 Yes it is  *Cardiospermum halicacabum *

 Regards
 Giby




 On 18 April 2012 00:09, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comwrote:

 Oh! searched the net for various *Physalis* sp. for an hour and
 was thinking why i failed to get any positive result !!!

 Thank you very much Tanay Sir :)

 Regards,

 Surajit

 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Tanay Bose tanaybos...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi Surajit Ji.
 This not a Physalis sp. from Solanaceae rather Cardiospermum
 halicacabum from the family
 Sapindaceae.
 Cheers
 Tanay


 On 17 April 2012 11:08, surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.comwrote:

 Sir,

 Attaching 2 sets of images, recorded on different dates and on
 different places, but maybe of the same species. Please identify this/these
 plant(s).

 Species : UNKNOWN
 Habit  Habitat : wild climber (twiner?), roadside, waste places
 Date : set-1 = 21-12-2011; set-2 = 22-03-2012
 Place : Hooghly

 SET-1

 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-QyoXRNCHhFw/T42sqJhwqNI/DlM/5jnCkst5Tas/s1600/physalis_set1_VSCN6402.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Mn27N-M1I6A/T42snia6g8I/DlM/IRT8ANrM4bQ/s1600/physalis_set1_DSCN6310.jpg
 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OacTZnVIHEU/T42snsFFLAI/DlM/zH1iHxWHDXo/s1600/physalis_set1_VSCN6400.jpg



 SET-2

 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-z6wPowskGPM/T42s58E-_tI/DlM/CEikcUHR7YE/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0895.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-1ThXSCAclZg/T42s8hLnljI/DlM/LxzHW_hhiY4/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0896.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-47f7m1fRlz0/T42s5lNnRjI/DlM/o7BFeRqUpG0/s1600/physalis_set2_DSCN0899.jpg


 yet another image (recorded on 12-03-2012)...


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8J3PkkGPfXI/T42tDxafopI/DlM/cxMcSDvOsuk/s1600/physalis_seed_DSCN0351.jpg




 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley




 --
 *Tanay Bose*
 Research  Teaching Assistant.
 Department of Botany.
 University of British Columbia .
 6270 University Blvd.
 Vancouver, B.C. V6T 1Z4 (Canada)
 Phone: 778-323-4036 (Mobile)
   604-822-2019 (Lab)
   604-822-6089  (Fax)
 tanay.b...@botany.ubc.ca ta...@interchange.ubc.ca
 *Webpages:*
 UBC Botany , Berbee Lab http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/mberbee.html
 UBC Botany, People http://www.botany.ubc.ca/people/gradstud.html
 EfloraofIndia https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/






 --
 GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD
 Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE),
 Royal Enclave,
 Jakkur Post, Srirampura
 Bangalore- 560064
 India
 Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile)
 visit my pictures @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby



Re: [efloraofindia:113670] Physalis sp. ID from Hooghly 17-04-12 SK

2012-04-17 Thread surajit koley
Good morning Sir and thank you for confirming.

Will take a note of that heart shaped mark whenever i see one again.

A nice day to you and all

Regards,

Surajit


On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:28 AM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Surajit Ji,

 Nice pics. Cardiospermum helicacabum indeed, look for a heart shaped scar
 on the seeds where they are attached to the fruit wallclearly visible
 in ripe fruits, when you forcefully remove the seeds...
 --
 Regards,

 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227




Re: [efloraofindia:113671] seedpod : Bauhinia x blakeana from Hooghly

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Such reports often appear but one is not sure whether the person is talking
about the real B. x blakeana or some cultivar of B. variegata which also
has larger flowers with five stamens and broader petals, and does show
variation in colour.

-- 
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Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/





On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 11:00 PM, surajit koley 
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:


 Sir,

 This new laptop behaves erratic, thereby pasting the link at the top of my
 earlier mail. Sorry for the inconvenience.

 Regards,

 Surajit
 -- Forwarded message --
 From: surajit koley surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:113424] seedpod : Bauhinia x blakeana from
 Hooghly
 To: Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.com



 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/bauhinia$20x$20blakeana/indiantreepix/2fer1UHmLTI/X2wqPw3W38kJ
 Sir,

 Thank you for drawing my attention to the fact that *B.* *blakeana* is a
 sterile plant. I also read, in January, about the sterile flowers of *B.
 blakeana* in wikipedia and other websites.

 But there is a discussion at - http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/go/53664/ 
 where
 someone claims that it bears seedpod. Again there is an image claiming to
 be seedpod of the same plant -
 http://www.hear.org/starr/images/image/?q=030702-0067o=plants

 So, if it is not the *B. x blakeana* then my earlier post (
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/bauhinia$20x$20blakeana/indiantreepix/2fer1UHmLTI/X2wqPw3W38kJ)
  should
 also be some other species, might be *B. variegata*.

 Regards,

 Surajit Koley

 On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 9:09 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Surajit ji
 As far as I know Bauhinia x blakeana is a hybrid propagated vegetatively.
 It does not set seeds.

 Your tree must be some thing different.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bauhinia_blakeana


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



 On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 8:23 PM, surajit koley 
 surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir,

 Attaching seedpod images of the same tree that i uploaded sometimes in
 January this year -
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/indiantreepix/bauhinia$20x$20blakeana/indiantreepix/2fer1UHmLTI/X2wqPw3W38kJ

 Species : *Bauhinia* *x* *blakeana*
 Habit  Habitat : garden tree
 Date : 01-04-2012  12-04-2012
 Place : Nalikul (Hooghly), WB



 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-W0sQ3EMDgGg/T4beD_4nL-I/DZY/7hqgHUsOoBA/s1600/DSCN1428.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6vNYaS1-6FI/T4beDeILuCI/DZY/LbTVdj5n59w/s1600/DSCN1429.jpg


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dh0iOdpQ50s/T4beIjmIhZI/DZY/8wSTKFxFmk8/s1600/DSCN1431.jpg


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Vb0NIETNkCw/T4beOCZpAEI/DZY/oO3f2qReBvQ/s1600/DSCN1436.jpg
 
 


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-qPAakrF8JRE/T4beeYC7S6I/DZY/MYpfFKG2ad4/s1600/DSCN2024.jpg


 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pXxIi83ERjE/T4beOc5YlDI/DZY/En8TUcr5-8w/s1600/DSCN2020.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-tUZsU_-7-yA/T4beW3EID6I/DZY/D-cNXYfsdBU/s1600/DSCN2022.jpg


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-2ZwcxosYsmE/T4beYcIR-II/DZY/Nq1B9MU3c9Q/s1600/DSCN2023.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-12RwMDRyqbQ/T4befUzqyjI/DZY/r2IFuUO-nj8/s1600/DSCN2026.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Rqq7SAq-Jwg/T4bejIOHyxI/DZY/qx_R16WIZbg/s1600/DSCN2027.jpg


 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley










Re: [efloraofindia:113672] Kalatope id Al041212 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Eranthemum pulchellum (syn: E. nervosum).

-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Alok Mahendroo alokisabe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thank you very much Nidhan ji... As usual you have given good advice...
 Regards
 ALok


 On Fri, 2012-04-13 at 10:09 +0530, Nidhan Singh wrote:
  Eranthemum nervosum
 --
 Himalayan Village Education Trust
 Village Khudgot,
 P.O. Dalhousie
 District Chamba
 H.P. 176304, India

 www.hivetrust.wordpress.com
 www.forwildlife.wordpress.com

 http://mushroomobserver.org/observer/observations_by_user?_js=on_new=trueid=2186




Re: [efloraofindia:113673] fruit : Luffa aegyptiaca from Hooghly

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Great photographs Surajit ji


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 8:07 PM, surajit koley 
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Madam / Sir,

 It is interesting to note that the image in wikipedia shows a 
 4-chamberedhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luffa_aegyptiaca
 *Luffa* *aegyptiaca*. but mine is a 3-chambered as in -
 http://culture-maghrebine.clictopic.com/t2739-luffa

 Species :
 Habit  Habitat : wild climber
 Date : 13-04-2012, 9.20 a.m.
 Place : Hooghly, WB


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-SVwBrsTlIkc/T4gPrNVaiCI/DZo/M5KyhcvtYEc/s1600/DSCN2030.jpg
 (i didn't cut it, it is natural opening - to spread seeds ?)



 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7Vi1zigkuYE/T4gPqTtFwYI/DZk/ClrCimDGtuA/s1600/DSCN2037.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hJPxrIWRUWk/T4gPu9lqxEI/DZ0/v_xkzjxtPf8/s1600/DSCN2040.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-nDtsfA6zNDU/T4gPyiYEW5I/DZ8/078e1HYya_E/s1600/DSCN2041.jpg


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-pIlLxRudkoQ/T4gPz6B5FLI/DaE/ULNHgXjOB9Q/s1600/DSCN2046.jpg


 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-lVLVryGiXf0/T4gP3ig4IOI/DaM/ewTBVRvex6k/s1600/DSCN2050.jpg


 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley




Re: [efloraofindia:113674] Kalatope Dam side id Al041312 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Dear Surajit ji and Nidhan ji
This is neither G. rotundifolium (now known as G. elegans, which has hooked
hairs on fruits but leaves are 3-nerved) nor G. acutum (which has smaller
leaves and smooth fruits). This one should be Galium aparine.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:41 PM, Alok Mahendroo alokisabe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thank you very much Nidhan ji. I think this is G. acutum which I also
 found at higher altitudes.. but flowering in September... My mistake in
 repetition, but your id reminded me of Gurcharan ji's id of this...
 Thank you and regards
 Alok




 On Saturday, 14 April 2012 07:30:22 UTC+5:30, Nidhan Singh wrote:

 Alok Ji,

 This is a Galium species, may be G. rotundifolium..

 --
 Regards,

 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227




-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


Re: [efloraofindia:113675] seed : Celosia argentea var. cristata from Hooghly

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
A photograph of habit should help in confirmation.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:45 PM, surajit koley 
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Madam / Sir,

 Attaching images of seeds of *Celosia* *argentea* var. *cristata*.

 Species : *Celosia* *argentea* var. *cristata*
 Habit  Habitat : Garden herb
 Date : 14-04-2012, 1.10 p.m.
 Place : Hooghly, WB



 https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gn-pQXpPMU0/T4muixmLmEI/Ddo/tbhEvz79Tb0/s1600/DSCN2101.jpg


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9_2sLSz-PBU/T4muisWNkLI/Ddo/AWNl9HFqAIM/s1600/DSCN2102.jpg


 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley




Re: [efloraofindia:113676] seed : Ricinus communis L. from Hooghly

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Surajit ji
Nice photographs


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sat, Apr 14, 2012 at 10:54 PM, surajit koley 
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir / Madam
 Attaching images of seeds of *Ricinus* *communis* L.

 Species : *Ricinus* *communis* L.
 Habit  Habitat : wild herb
 Date : 14-04-2012, 12.05 p.m.
 Place : Hooghly, WB



 https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-vC6B_ZXYNd0/T4mu1CK5MzI/Ddo/hcEY9L7FDxQ/s1600/DSCN2092.jpg


 https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lLTF_PJQe3g/T4mu1Fg_vOI/Ddo/YFvoFlMEtfg/s1600/DSCN2094.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-2PlQ_s3GPqU/T4mu27DZHAI/Ddo/pQwX8TitVrw/s1600/DSCN2097.jpg


 https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-_3oKcLoCo4Q/T4mu3GqIB8I/Ddo/7TBawJCswlM/s1600/DSCN2100.jpg


 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley



Re: [efloraofindia:113677] Re: Spergularia rubra from Panipat for Validation

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Spergularia rubra


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 7:32 AM, surajit koley 
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Beautiful flowers, beautiful shots

 Regards,

 Surajit



Re: [efloraofindia:113678] Re: Kalatope Solanum id Al041312A (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
I hope Alok ji is right, Solanum torvum


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:47 AM, surajit koley 
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir,

 I have posted a similar plant in February, this year, maybe will be some
 use in this regard -
 https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/gD3lvrjSX1Y

 Thank you  Regards,

 Surajit Koley



 On Friday, 13 April 2012 21:37:31 UTC+5:30, Alok Mahendroo wrote:

 [image: Document] Untitled document
 Message from alokisabe...@gmail.com:

 Dear friends,
 A solanum Sp for id

 Location Kalatope, Chamba
 Altitude 1100 mts
 Habit Shrub
 Habitat wild
 Height 6 feet
 Season April

 Regards
 Alok



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 On Friday, 13 April 2012 21:37:31 UTC+5:30, Alok Mahendroo wrote:

 [image: Document] Untitled document
 Message from alokisabe...@gmail.com:

 Dear friends,
 A solanum Sp for id

 Location Kalatope, Chamba
 Altitude 1100 mts
 Habit Shrub
 Habitat wild
 Height 6 feet
 Season April

 Regards
 Alok



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 On Friday, 13 April 2012 21:37:31 UTC+5:30, Alok Mahendroo wrote:

 [image: Document] Untitled document
 Message from alokisabe...@gmail.com:

 Dear friends,
 A solanum Sp for id

 Location Kalatope, Chamba
 Altitude 1100 mts
 Habit Shrub
 Habitat wild
 Height 6 feet
 Season April

 Regards
 Alok



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 On Friday, 13 April 2012 21:37:31 UTC+5:30, Alok Mahendroo wrote:

 [image: Document] Untitled document
 Message from alokisabe...@gmail.com:

 Dear friends,
 A solanum Sp for id

 Location Kalatope, Chamba
 Altitude 1100 mts
 Habit Shrub
 Habitat wild
 Height 6 feet
 Season April

 Regards
 Alok



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 On Friday, 13 April 2012 21:37:31 UTC+5:30, Alok Mahendroo wrote:

 [image: Document] Untitled document
 Message from alokisabe...@gmail.com:

 Dear friends,
 A solanum Sp for id

 Location Kalatope, Chamba
 Altitude 1100 mts
 Habit Shrub
 Habitat wild
 Height 6 feet
 Season April

 Regards
 Alok



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Re: [efloraofindia:113679] Seeking tips for macro photography

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Thanks Satish ji for valuable tips.
I am slowly learning to get better and better results with tips from
friends and trying different options. I was mostly using Aperture priority
option. While on trip my son suggested fully auto feature, manual focus and
flash. It worked well. The flash pops up whenever needed, and I am getting
better results when keeping object at reasonable distance, say 40-60 cm.
Once I bring it nearer say 30-35 cm, I have to hold the camera with both
hands to make it steady, otherwise if I hold the object in one hand and
camera in another hands, it shakes when I click.
   One thing I have known that Canon 550D  and 100 mm macro are good
combination, only I have to understand them better.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/



On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 10:29 AM, Satish Phadke drsmpha...@gmail.comwrote:

 You have shared the same problem as I had when I purchased the same macro
 lens.
 Initially I also thought that life is easy for macro photography with this
 lens. It is not fully true.
 1) Small Aperture(2.8 or 3.2 etc.) will keep only a part of the large
 flower like anther in focus while the flower becomes blur.
 2) If the aperture setting is high say 15 or more all parts of the flower
 will be in focus including some surroundings but to get adequate light the
 shutter will remain open for a longer time and one can't keep the hand
 steady for that long and the end result is burred pictured if the camera is
 hand held. To prevent this you need to use the flash(Accepting some of its
 limitations)
 OR
 If light is bright and good say a sunny bright morning and actual sun rays
 not falling on flowers. You can get good depth accepting Aperture of 5.6 or
 4.5 getting a reasonable shutter speed to prevent hand shake(and flower
 shake due to wind)
 This macro lens is a telephoto lens and one has to go away from the object
 to get it into the field of vision.
 I hope I have shared what I do with same lens as you are using.
 Tripod is not practical in most field visits though it may be ideal.
 Satish Phadke

 On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 5:15 PM, Gerris2 gerr...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am actually an avid manual focus lens user and 99% of the time I use
 even my autofocus lenses in manual mode for macro photography. I feel I
 have more control in making the photograph. So, in this regard we are alike
 :-) .




 --
 Dr Satish Phadke



Re: [efloraofindia:113680] Spiranthes from India

2012-04-17 Thread Pankaj Kumar
Thanks a lot sir for the images. Yes yours are hairy and hence they should
be actually Spiranthes australis and not Spiranthes sinensis. Yours labels
are already correct :).
But many treat them as synonym which is wrong. Me and Sid are looking for
both, may be we have both in India.
Pankaj


On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Pankaj ji
 Here are mine from Manali shot in 2009. Images may not reach the group
 being larger in size.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:08 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear all
 I am looking for whatever Spiranthes pics any of the members or their
 friends have. I would be grateful for your help. Please contribute a full
 plant pic and a closeup.
 Pankaj




 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




-- 
**
Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!


Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D.
Conservation Officer

Office:
Orchid Conservation Section
Flora Conservation Department
Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

Residence:
36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun
Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com; pankajsah...@rediffmail.com
Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 (mobile).
Fax: +852 2483 7194


Re: [efloraofindia:113681] Re: Spiranthes sinensis from Manali HP

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Pankaj Sahni ji
Hamen Iss Group menh aap ki bahut zarurat hai
Bhaghwan apne bhagton ko naraz nahi  karen gai.


-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey bhagwaan utha le mujhko..
 Often is used here because earlier authors used it saying sinensis OFTEN
 has hairs
 So Mrs Barretto said the one which often has hairs are hongkongensis and
 not sinensis.




 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote:

 Quoting the original text

 Since it *(i.e.Spiranthes honkongensis)* was first described, this
 species has largely been ignored
 by subsequent authors who have referred it to synonymy of Spiranthes
 sinensis. However, Hu and Barretto (Chung Chi J. 13(2): 4–6. 1976)
 identified the often densely glandular pubescent rachis, glandular
 pubescent
 floral bracts and sepals, and the broad, distinctly 3-lobed stigma as
 clear morphological characters that distinguish it from S. sinensis.

 --
 Often densely glandular pubescent rachis is for S. honkongensis not for
 S.sinensis. Often is with meaning in this line. I repeat Often is not
 synonym for Always.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 There is a reason why I said that. Because,
 1. People think that Spiranthes sinensis is often pubescent so they
 described both glabrous one and the non glabrous one as S. sinensis.
  2. But according to the original descriptions only the glabrous one
 should have been Spiranthes sinensis.
 3. On the contrary, Spiranthes australis and Spiranthes hongkongensis
 are pubescent and sometimes even with glandular hairs. So the plant with
 hairs from India cant be sinensis.


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 There is a reason why I said that. Because,
 1. People think that Spiranthes sinensis is often pubescent so they
 described both glabrous one and the non glabrous one as S. sinensis.
 2. But to the original descriptions only the glabrous one should have
 been Spiranthes sinensis.
 3. O


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Pankaj Oudhia 
 pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thanks. I am quoting your two statements from this thread.

 Earlier


 S. sinensis is not supposed to be pubescent originally. But your
 plant seems pubescent.

 Now

 Often densly pubescent hairs with reference to sinensis which was
 often present with densely pubescent hairs.

 Both are not same quotes. Isn't it?

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 It has been written in different sense sir. Often densly pubescent
 hairs with reference to sinensis which was often present with densely
 pubescent hairs.
 So they made a new species of the one which had hairs.
 I have not met Mrs Barretto but happened to have met Dr Sun recently.
 She is the one who evoked my doubts.
 Best regards
 Pankaj


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Pankaj Oudhia 
 pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote:

 Flora of China Vol.25.  Chapter on Spiranthes.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Which reference are you talking about?
 Pankaj


 On Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:47:53 UTC+8, Gurcharan Singh wrote:

 Sending Spiranthes sinensis (Pers.) Ames (syn: S. australis (R.
 Br.) Lindley) from Manali, HP

 Pankaj ji and Nayan ji, one of the very few orchids I know, and
 that too if it is correct identity.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/





 --
 **
 Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!


 Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D.
 Conservation Officer

 Office:
 Orchid Conservation Section
 Flora Conservation Department
 Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
 Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 Residence:
 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun
 Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com;
 pankajsah...@rediffmail.com
 Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 
 6251(mobile). Fax: +852
 2483 7194





 --
 **
 Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!


 Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D.
 Conservation Officer

 Office:
 Orchid Conservation Section
 Flora Conservation Department
 Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
 Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong 

Re: [efloraofindia:113682] Re: Spiranthes sinensis from Manali HP

2012-04-17 Thread Pankaj Kumar
hehehehe thank you sir...
I am here till I am alive... :)
Pankaj



On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Pankaj Sahni ji
 Hamen Iss Group menh aap ki bahut zarurat hai
 Bhaghwan apne bhagton ko naraz nahi  karen gai.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor

 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Pankaj Kumar sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hey bhagwaan utha le mujhko..
 Often is used here because earlier authors used it saying sinensis OFTEN
 has hairs
 So Mrs Barretto said the one which often has hairs are hongkongensis and
 not sinensis.




 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.comwrote:

 Quoting the original text

 Since it *(i.e.Spiranthes honkongensis)* was first described, this
 species has largely been ignored
 by subsequent authors who have referred it to synonymy of Spiranthes
 sinensis. However, Hu and Barretto (Chung Chi J. 13(2): 4–6. 1976)
 identified the often densely glandular pubescent rachis, glandular
 pubescent
 floral bracts and sepals, and the broad, distinctly 3-lobed stigma as
 clear morphological characters that distinguish it from S. sinensis.

 --
 Often densely glandular pubescent rachis is for S. honkongensis not
 for S.sinensis. Often is with meaning in this line. I repeat Often is not
 synonym for Always.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 There is a reason why I said that. Because,
 1. People think that Spiranthes sinensis is often pubescent so they
 described both glabrous one and the non glabrous one as S. sinensis.
  2. But according to the original descriptions only the glabrous one
 should have been Spiranthes sinensis.
 3. On the contrary, Spiranthes australis and Spiranthes hongkongensis
 are pubescent and sometimes even with glandular hairs. So the plant with
 hairs from India cant be sinensis.


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.comwrote:

 There is a reason why I said that. Because,
 1. People think that Spiranthes sinensis is often pubescent so they
 described both glabrous one and the non glabrous one as S. sinensis.
 2. But to the original descriptions only the glabrous one should have
 been Spiranthes sinensis.
 3. O


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Pankaj Oudhia pankajoud...@gmail.com
  wrote:

 Thanks. I am quoting your two statements from this thread.

 Earlier


 S. sinensis is not supposed to be pubescent originally. But your
 plant seems pubescent.

 Now

 Often densly pubescent hairs with reference to sinensis which was
 often present with densely pubescent hairs.

 Both are not same quotes. Isn't it?

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:

 It has been written in different sense sir. Often densly pubescent
 hairs with reference to sinensis which was often present with densely
 pubescent hairs.
 So they made a new species of the one which had hairs.
 I have not met Mrs Barretto but happened to have met Dr Sun
 recently. She is the one who evoked my doubts.
 Best regards
 Pankaj


 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Pankaj Oudhia 
 pankajoud...@gmail.com wrote:

 Flora of China Vol.25.  Chapter on Spiranthes.

 regards

 Pankaj Oudhia

 On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar 
 sahanipan...@gmail.com wrote:

 Which reference are you talking about?
 Pankaj


 On Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:47:53 UTC+8, Gurcharan Singh wrote:

 Sending Spiranthes sinensis (Pers.) Ames (syn: S. australis (R.
 Br.) Lindley) from Manali, HP

 Pankaj ji and Nayan ji, one of the very few orchids I know, and
 that too if it is correct identity.


 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/





 --

 **
 Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!


 Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D.
 Conservation Officer

 Office:
 Orchid Conservation Section
 Flora Conservation Department
 Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation
 Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 Residence:
 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun
 Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong.

 email: pku...@kbfg.org; sahanipan...@gmail.com;
 pankajsah...@rediffmail.com
 Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 
 6251(mobile). Fax: +852
 2483 7194





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 **
 Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!


 Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D.
 Conservation Officer

 

Re: [efloraofindia:113683] Re: A strange looking flower... Kalatope id Al041412 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Alok ji
Here are the links to older threads

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Roylea$20cinerea/indiantreepix/89l7PQD6890/3GplaN9-Qr8J


https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Roylea$20cinerea/indiantreepix/-OoVEVPRyhI/YG675hZRihgJ


https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/Roylea$20cinerea/indiantreepix/izI5l68QhAs/5We9f5OUmFQJ


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Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Alok Mahendroo alokisabe...@gmail.comwrote:

 Thank you Nidhan ji But somehow I cannot access the older discussions
 and it does not show up in the searches in the group... :(
 regards
 Alok



 On Sunday, 15 April 2012 08:43:53 UTC+5:30, Nidhan Singh wrote:

 Alok Ji,

 This one is for sure Roylea cinerariaLamiaceae, a plant much
 disccused earlier.

 --
 Regards,

 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227




Re: [efloraofindia:113684] Valley of Flowers ; permission/registration required?

2012-04-17 Thread jmgarg1
Hi, Rajesh ji,
I visited in 2010.
I think no advance permission is required for entry into Valley of Flowers,
but one has to come back on the same day.

For Rest Houses, booking has to be done in advance.

On 17 April 2012 13:17, Rajesh Sachdev leopard...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear efI members,

 Kindly suggest if any permission or earlier registration is required t be
 done for Valley of Flowers at forest department or GMVN (Garhwal Mandal
 Vikas Nigam rest houses)?

 --
 Regards
 Rajesh Sachdev
 http://project-matheran.webs.com/
 http://www.facebook.com/leopardguy





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Re: [efloraofindia:113685] Al041712 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Yes Stellaria media

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Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 5:25 AM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Alok Ji,

 This looks like Stellaria media, a common sight here, this is a nearby
 guess, the flowers in Stellaria are tiny, with white, bilobed
 petalslook for opened flowers nearby to confirm the identity...--
 Regards,

 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227




[efloraofindia:113686] Re: Discovered something strange

2012-04-17 Thread jmgarg1
Same thing possibly happened with Nitesh Joshi's post at (as images not
available):
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/kKPLRyInoIQ


On 10 April 2012 10:09, jmgarg1 jmga...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear all,
 I think this is very interesting- I checked up her posts. It seems
 pictures were inserted in the mail through google groups.
 In such cases, one has to be careful not to delete their pictures in their
 picasa albums.

 On 9 April 2012 23:14, Aarti S. Khale aarti.kh...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sir ji,
 I had posted some pictures during Cucurbitaceae Week couple of days ago.
 Today when I went to upload some pictures on my Picasa Web Albums of
 trees recently taken at Rani Bagh, Mumbai, I found that each picture I had
 posted on our group had converted into an one picture album on Picasa.
 So I deleted them(the single picture albums) as these were not required
 as albums.
 When i just checked my posts on our group, the inserted pictures are
 missing from the posts as well.
 That means each time I post a picture,it will get added to my Picasa
 album,and if deleted, the picture goes missing from the post as well.
 I hope I'm able to explain properly.
 Kindly find a way out.
 Regards,
 Aarti




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 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora  Fauna'
 The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* 
 eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
 alphabetically  place-wise):
 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use
 them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
 For identification, learning, discussion  documentation of Indian Flora,
 please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
 http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1840 members 
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 https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database
 of more than 6000 species).
 Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata  Common Birds of
 India'.




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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1
'Creating awareness of Indian Flora  Fauna'
The whole world uses my Image Resource of more than a *thousand species* 
eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged
alphabetically  place-wise):
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg. You can also use them
for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image.
For identification, learning, discussion  documentation of Indian Flora,
please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group:
http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix (more than 1840 members 
1,10,000 messages on 31/3/12) or Efloraofindia website:
https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/ (with a species database
of more than 6500 species).
Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata  Common Birds of
India'.


Re: [efloraofindia:113688] Eclipta prostrata ? from Hooghly 15-04-12 SK

2012-04-17 Thread ushadi Micromini
Dear ALL:
this is the way it should be...
I am glad M has quoted the source and that the writing is from someone
else's efforts...
am proud of you ...M ji.

a good show...
And yes Surajit... it has many uses.. not just for hair darkening and scalp
health...

Usha di


On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 10:01 PM, surajit koley 
surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you Sir very much for appreciating and confirming the ID.

 Regards,

 Surajit


 On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 9:35 AM, Rathinasabapathy Bhuvaragasamy 
 brspa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Beautiful pictures.
 Thanks for sharing.
 BRS


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 Project Co-ordinator
 Nilgiri Biosphere Nature Park
 1388, Avinashi Road
 Peelamedu
 Coimbatore-641004

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Usha di
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Re: [efloraofindia:113689] Kalatope id (Dam side) Al041612 (indiantreepix@googlegroups.com)

2012-04-17 Thread ushadi Micromini
New to me, thanks for showing, ALok and thanks for the id Nidhan
Usha di
=

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Nidhan Singh nidhansingh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Alok Ji,

 This looks close to Lepidagathis incurvaI had collected this from
 Morni Hills in Haryana...
 --
 Regards,

 Dr. Nidhan Singh
 Department of Botany
 I.B. (PG) College
 Panipat-132103 Haryana
 Ph.: 09416371227




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Usha di
===


Re: [efloraofindia:113691] Request Tree ID 088 - Bangalore - RA - Is it some terminalia

2012-04-17 Thread raman

Thanks Ajinkya ji.

My confusion with Figs continues

Raman


[efloraofindia:113691] Most matured person on this Group: my vote Dr. Pankaj Sahni

2012-04-17 Thread Gurcharan Singh
Dear friends
We have just returned from a five day trip to Nainital, Bhimtal, Kasauni,
Chakodi, Almora and other places, and really enjoyed the trip. Here we for
the first time met and had the pleasure of company of our member Mrs.
Promila Chaturvedi, who at the age of 72 carries the rare combination of
great love for nature, environment awareness, great social worker,
adjustment to prevailing situation and great entertainer. We all loved her
company.
A few months ago I, perhaps because of a small lapse by Garg ji, was a
party to reading discussion among moderator Group (I was supposed to be out
of this discussion, but got included in the mailer list by chance) for
giving a suitable title to me. I enjoyed every bit of discussion, and love
and regard shown by the members, keeping silent at the same time.
In last three years I have seen the evolution of this group. Thanks
largely to the Group of our highly refined members, Garg ji, Dinesh ji,
Satish ji, Yazdy ji, Mani ji, Prashant ji, Neil ji and others, any
aberrations in the Group are tackled with utmost competence, very necessary
for the success of any group.
 It is always heartening to see how your younger colleagues evolve into
highly competent scientists/workers, learn to handle tough situations and
attain success in life. I have been greatly impressed by the conduct and
progress of professional botanists Ritesh ji, Tanay, Balkar ji, Giby ji,
Nidhan ji, and others,  great love for plants by Alok ji, Surajit ji and
others, but one person who has impressed me by his evolving into the most
matured person over last 2-3 years is Dr. Pankaj Sahni, who in recent
months has always involved himself whenever any small or major problem
arises, and fortunately handled such situations in most competent manner.
My solutes to Pankaj ji. We enjoy small pleasant exchanges and digs at each
other, very necessary for healthy atmosphere, earlier largely restricted to
me and Tanay.
 I wish more and more young members follow such good examples and make
this group a learning and enjoyable experience.
-- 
Dr. Gurcharan Singh
Retired  Associate Professor
SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/


[efloraofindia:113692] Re: VALMIKI THE OBSERVER OF NATURE :SINDHUWAR

2012-04-17 Thread ushadi Micromini
very nice
usha di
==

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Col Bimal Sarkar
colbimalsar...@yahoo.comwrote:


 Dear Friend,
  After a long time I am posting an image of another plant
 species mentioned by Valmiki as SINDHUWAR in his Ramayan.Scientifically
 this plant is known as *Vitex negundo.This plant is known as Nisinda in
 Bangla and Hindi.*
 Regards
 Col (Retd) Bimal Sarkar
 Mobile: 9434194942




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Usha di
===


Re: [efloraofindia:113693] Most matured person on this Group: my vote Dr. Pankaj Sahni

2012-04-17 Thread ushadi Micromini
Congratulations, Pankaj Orchid Sahni
usha di


On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Gurcharan Singh singh...@gmail.comwrote:

 Dear friends
 We have just returned from a five day trip to Nainital, Bhimtal, Kasauni,
 Chakodi, Almora and other places, and really enjoyed the trip. Here we for
 the first time met and had the pleasure of company of our member Mrs.
 Promila Chaturvedi, who at the age of 72 carries the rare combination of
 great love for nature, environment awareness, great social worker,
 adjustment to prevailing situation and great entertainer. We all loved her
 company.
 A few months ago I, perhaps because of a small lapse by Garg ji, was a
 party to reading discussion among moderator Group (I was supposed to be out
 of this discussion, but got included in the mailer list by chance) for
 giving a suitable title to me. I enjoyed every bit of discussion, and love
 and regard shown by the members, keeping silent at the same time.
 In last three years I have seen the evolution of this group. Thanks
 largely to the Group of our highly refined members, Garg ji, Dinesh ji,
 Satish ji, Yazdy ji, Mani ji, Prashant ji, Neil ji and others, any
 aberrations in the Group are tackled with utmost competence, very necessary
 for the success of any group.
  It is always heartening to see how your younger colleagues evolve
 into highly competent scientists/workers, learn to handle tough situations
 and attain success in life. I have been greatly impressed by the conduct
 and progress of professional botanists Ritesh ji, Tanay, Balkar ji, Giby
 ji, Nidhan ji, and others,  great love for plants by Alok ji, Surajit ji
 and others, but one person who has impressed me by his evolving into the
 most matured person over last 2-3 years is Dr. Pankaj Sahni, who in recent
 months has always involved himself whenever any small or major problem
 arises, and fortunately handled such situations in most competent manner.
 My solutes to Pankaj ji. We enjoy small pleasant exchanges and digs at each
 other, very necessary for healthy atmosphere, earlier largely restricted to
 me and Tanay.
  I wish more and more young members follow such good examples and make
 this group a learning and enjoyable experience.
 --
 Dr. Gurcharan Singh
 Retired  Associate Professor
 SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
 Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/




-- 
Usha di
===