Pankaj Sahni ji Hamen Iss Group menh aap ki bahut zarurat hai Bhaghwan apne bhagton ko naraz nahi karen gai.
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > Hey bhagwaan utha le mujhko...... > Often is used here because earlier authors used it saying sinensis OFTEN > has hairs.... > So Mrs Barretto said the one which often has hairs are hongkongensis and > not sinensis. > > > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Quoting the original text >> >> Since it *(i.e.Spiranthes honkongensis)* was first described, this >> species has largely been ignored >> by subsequent authors who have referred it to synonymy of Spiranthes >> sinensis. However, Hu and Barretto (Chung Chi J. 13(2): 4–6. 1976) >> identified the often densely glandular pubescent rachis, glandular >> pubescent >> floral bracts and sepals, and the broad, distinctly 3-lobed stigma as >> clear morphological characters that distinguish it from S. sinensis. >> >> -- >> "Often densely glandular pubescent rachis" is for S. honkongensis not for >> S.sinensis. "Often" is with meaning in this line. I repeat Often is not >> synonym for Always. >> >> regards >> >> Pankaj Oudhia >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> There is a reason why I said that. Because, >>> 1. People think that Spiranthes sinensis is often pubescent so they >>> described both glabrous one and the non glabrous one as S. sinensis. >>> 2. But according to the original descriptions only the glabrous one >>> should have been Spiranthes sinensis. >>> 3. On the contrary, Spiranthes australis and Spiranthes hongkongensis >>> are pubescent and sometimes even with glandular hairs. So the plant with >>> hairs from India cant be sinensis. >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> There is a reason why I said that. Because, >>>> 1. People think that Spiranthes sinensis is often pubescent so they >>>> described both glabrous one and the non glabrous one as S. sinensis. >>>> 2. But to the original descriptions only the glabrous one should have >>>> been Spiranthes sinensis. >>>> 3. O >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Pankaj Oudhia >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks. I am quoting your two statements from this thread. >>>>> >>>>> Earlier >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> "S. sinensis is not supposed to be pubescent originally. But your >>>>> plant seems pubescent." >>>>> >>>>> Now >>>>> >>>>> "Often densly pubescent hairs with reference to sinensis which was >>>>> often present with densely pubescent hairs." >>>>> >>>>> Both are not same quotes. Isn't it? >>>>> >>>>> regards >>>>> >>>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It has been written in different sense sir. Often densly pubescent >>>>>> hairs with reference to sinensis which was often present with densely >>>>>> pubescent hairs. >>>>>> So they made a new species of the one which had hairs. >>>>>> I have not met Mrs Barretto but happened to have met Dr Sun recently. >>>>>> She is the one who evoked my doubts. >>>>>> Best regards >>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Pankaj Oudhia < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Flora of China Vol.25. Chapter on Spiranthes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Which reference are you talking about? >>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:47:53 UTC+8, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sending Spiranthes sinensis (Pers.) Ames (syn: S. australis (R. >>>>>>>>> Br.) Lindley) from Manali, HP >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Pankaj ji and Nayan ji, one of the very few orchids I know, and >>>>>>>>> that too if it is correct identity. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>> Associate Professor >>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> ********************************************************************** >>>>>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >>>>>> Conservation Officer >>>>>> >>>>>> Office: >>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>>> >>>>>> Residence: >>>>>> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>>>>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>>> >>>>>> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 >>>>>> 6251(mobile). Fax: +852 >>>>>> 2483 7194 >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ********************************************************************** >>>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>>> >>>> >>>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >>>> Conservation Officer >>>> >>>> Office: >>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>> >>>> Residence: >>>> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>> >>>> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>> [email protected] >>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251(mobile). >>>> Fax: +852 >>>> 2483 7194 >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ********************************************************************** >>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>> >>> >>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >>> Conservation Officer >>> >>> Office: >>> Orchid Conservation Section >>> Flora Conservation Department >>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >>> Residence: >>> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>> >>> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>> [email protected] >>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251(mobile). >>> Fax: +852 >>> 2483 7194 >>> >> >> > > > -- > ********************************************************************** > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > > > Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. > Conservation Officer > > Office: > Orchid Conservation Section > Flora Conservation Department > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > Residence: > 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > email: [email protected]; [email protected]; > [email protected] > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 > (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194 >
