hehehehe.... thank you sir... I am here till I am alive... :) Pankaj
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote: > Pankaj Sahni ji > Hamen Iss Group menh aap ki bahut zarurat hai > Bhaghwan apne bhagton ko naraz nahi karen gai. > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hey bhagwaan utha le mujhko...... >> Often is used here because earlier authors used it saying sinensis OFTEN >> has hairs.... >> So Mrs Barretto said the one which often has hairs are hongkongensis and >> not sinensis. >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Quoting the original text >>> >>> Since it *(i.e.Spiranthes honkongensis)* was first described, this >>> species has largely been ignored >>> by subsequent authors who have referred it to synonymy of Spiranthes >>> sinensis. However, Hu and Barretto (Chung Chi J. 13(2): 4–6. 1976) >>> identified the often densely glandular pubescent rachis, glandular >>> pubescent >>> floral bracts and sepals, and the broad, distinctly 3-lobed stigma as >>> clear morphological characters that distinguish it from S. sinensis. >>> >>> -- >>> "Often densely glandular pubescent rachis" is for S. honkongensis not >>> for S.sinensis. "Often" is with meaning in this line. I repeat Often is not >>> synonym for Always. >>> >>> regards >>> >>> Pankaj Oudhia >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> There is a reason why I said that. Because, >>>> 1. People think that Spiranthes sinensis is often pubescent so they >>>> described both glabrous one and the non glabrous one as S. sinensis. >>>> 2. But according to the original descriptions only the glabrous one >>>> should have been Spiranthes sinensis. >>>> 3. On the contrary, Spiranthes australis and Spiranthes hongkongensis >>>> are pubescent and sometimes even with glandular hairs. So the plant with >>>> hairs from India cant be sinensis. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:18 PM, Pankaj Kumar >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> There is a reason why I said that. Because, >>>>> 1. People think that Spiranthes sinensis is often pubescent so they >>>>> described both glabrous one and the non glabrous one as S. sinensis. >>>>> 2. But to the original descriptions only the glabrous one should have >>>>> been Spiranthes sinensis. >>>>> 3. O >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 3:16 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected] >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. I am quoting your two statements from this thread. >>>>>> >>>>>> Earlier >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "S. sinensis is not supposed to be pubescent originally. But your >>>>>> plant seems pubescent." >>>>>> >>>>>> Now >>>>>> >>>>>> "Often densly pubescent hairs with reference to sinensis which was >>>>>> often present with densely pubescent hairs." >>>>>> >>>>>> Both are not same quotes. Isn't it? >>>>>> >>>>>> regards >>>>>> >>>>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> It has been written in different sense sir. Often densly pubescent >>>>>>> hairs with reference to sinensis which was often present with densely >>>>>>> pubescent hairs. >>>>>>> So they made a new species of the one which had hairs. >>>>>>> I have not met Mrs Barretto but happened to have met Dr Sun >>>>>>> recently. She is the one who evoked my doubts. >>>>>>> Best regards >>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Pankaj Oudhia < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Flora of China Vol.25. Chapter on Spiranthes. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Pankaj Oudhia >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:35 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Which reference are you talking about? >>>>>>>>> Pankaj >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tuesday, 8 December 2009 00:47:53 UTC+8, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sending Spiranthes sinensis (Pers.) Ames (syn: S. australis (R. >>>>>>>>>> Br.) Lindley) from Manali, HP >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Pankaj ji and Nayan ji, one of the very few orchids I know, and >>>>>>>>>> that too if it is correct identity. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>>>>> Associate Professor >>>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ********************************************************************** >>>>>>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >>>>>>> Conservation Officer >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Office: >>>>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Residence: >>>>>>> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>>>>>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 >>>>>>> 6251(mobile). Fax: +852 >>>>>>> 2483 7194 >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ********************************************************************** >>>>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >>>>> Conservation Officer >>>>> >>>>> Office: >>>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>> >>>>> Residence: >>>>> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>>>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>>> >>>>> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 >>>>> 6251(mobile). Fax: +852 >>>>> 2483 7194 >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ********************************************************************** >>>> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >>>> >>>> >>>> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >>>> Conservation Officer >>>> >>>> Office: >>>> Orchid Conservation Section >>>> Flora Conservation Department >>>> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >>>> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>> >>>> Residence: >>>> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >>>> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >>>> >>>> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >>>> [email protected] >>>> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251(mobile). >>>> Fax: +852 >>>> 2483 7194 >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ********************************************************************** >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. >> Conservation Officer >> >> Office: >> Orchid Conservation Section >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> Residence: >> 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> email: [email protected]; [email protected]; >> [email protected] >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251(mobile). >> Fax: +852 >> 2483 7194 >> > > > > -- ********************************************************************** "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" Pankaj Kumar, Ph.D. Conservation Officer Office: Orchid Conservation Section Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. Residence: 36C, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. email: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected] Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 (mobile). Fax: +852 2483 7194
