InterMapper and Reporting - Take 2

2003-08-27 Thread Richard E. Brown
Folks:

A few weeks ago, I sent a request to the InterMapper-Talk list asking for your
thoughts on reporting facilities that you would like to see in future versions
of InterMapper. Thanks to all who responded. I have summarized the responses on
this page:

http://www.intermapper.com/featurerequests/reporting.html

I want to give a second chance to people who didn't have time to respond the
first time. Please read the original request (below), and respond to this list.
We'll add your thoughts to our list.

In addition, I have asked a colleague, Carl Pedersen, to follow up with people
who have replied. He'll contact you through e-mail or phone to ask some in-depth
questions about what you'd like to see.

Thanks!

Rich Brown
Dartware, LLC

= Original call for comments =

We are beginning to think about enhancements to future versions of InterMapper.
One frequent request we hear is for better reporting capabilities. 

Now that strip charts are implemented in InterMapper Remote/Console, InterMapper
can provide a certain measure of historical information. But it's likely that
you would like to see InterMapper could collect, format and display lots of
other data. 

We'd like to know what kinds of reports or historical data that would be useful.
Use the questions below as starters, and send your thoughts back to this list to
spur further comments. 
-Do you need daily, weekly, monthly reports? Of what kinds of
information? 
-Do you want reports of outages, traffic trends, utilization? 
-Do you care how the data is saved? Would text files suffice? Is an SQL
database required? 
-If the data were saved in a SQL database, would you want direct access
to the DBMS? 
-How would you use this data? To help improve service? To look for
trouble spots? To convince your boss you're doing a good job? :-) 

We look forward to your thoughts. Many thanks! 

Rich Brown 
Dartware, LLC 


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InterMapper and Reporting - Take 2

2003-08-27 Thread Richard E. Brown
Folks:

A few weeks ago, I sent a request to the InterMapper-Talk list asking for your
thoughts on reporting facilities that you would like to see in future versions
of InterMapper. Thanks to all who responded. I have summarized the responses on
this page:

http://www.intermapper.com/featurerequests/reporting.html

I suspect that a number of people didn't have a chance to respond to the initial
request. Please read the original request (below), and respond to the list.
We'll add your thoughts to our list.

In addition, I have asked a colleague, Carl Pedersen, to follow up with people
who have replied. He'll contact you through e-mail or phone to ask some in-depth
questions about what you'd like to see.

Thanks!

Rich Brown
Dartware, LLC

= Original call for comments =

We are beginning to think about enhancements to future versions of InterMapper.
One frequent request we hear is for better reporting capabilities. 

Now that strip charts are implemented in InterMapper Remote/Console, InterMapper
can provide a certain measure of historical information. But it's likely that
you would like to see InterMapper could collect, format and display lots of
other data. 

We'd like to know what kinds of reports or historical data that would be useful.
Use the questions below as starters, and send your thoughts back to this list to
spur further comments. 
-Do you need daily, weekly, monthly reports? Of what kinds of
information? 
-Do you want reports of outages, traffic trends, utilization? 
-Do you care how the data is saved? Would text files suffice? Is an SQL
database required? 
-If the data were saved in a SQL database, would you want direct access
to the DBMS? 
-How would you use this data? To help improve service? To look for
trouble spots? To convince your boss you're doing a good job? :-) 

We look forward to your thoughts. Many thanks! 

Rich Brown 
Dartware, LLC 


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Re: InterMapper and Reporting - Take 2

2003-08-27 Thread Jonathan Sherman



- Do you need daily, weekly, 
monthly reports? Of what kinds of information? 

It would be nice to be able to simply input a range of time... instead of 
selecting from a pre made list. When sifting through data its hard to know 
ahead of time what you are going to need. Sometimes you want to look at 
two days worth... sometimes youneed want to see 3 weeks worth. Maybe 
you could make it so you could select the time range from a pre-made list, but 
also have a custom option, where the user can specify exactly what time range 
they want to see. That would cover all options. As for what kinds of 
information... everything. Being able to chose from any type of "event" 
that InterMapper is capable of recording would be best. If its worth 
monitoring for with a probe, or being graphed on a chart,then its worth 
being available for reporting.
- Do you want reports of 
outages, traffic trends, utilization?

Again, creating a pre made list always boxes the user in, and there will 
always be times where the user wants something that isn't on the list. 
Again, being able to chose from any type of "event" that InterMapper is capable 
of recording would be best. Why limit your reporting engine?
- Do you care how the 
data is saved? Would text files suffice? Is an SQL database required? 

Using a database of some sort would make a lot of sense from my point of 
view. Using something like mySQL or PostgreSQL would allow you to utilize 
an open standard that already has a large user base, and therefore a large 
support base. In addition, storing the information in database like this 
allows third partyreports to be written that could sift the data in ways 
that Dartware doesn't have time to write, or didnt foresee the need for.
It seems to me that it would make a lot of sense to have InterMapper write 
back pretty much everything that it sees happen on a map back to a database (or 
make it a customizable option for what gets recorded, and what doesnt). 
When you write everthing back, then everything is available for reporting. 
And reporting is a fundamental need of a network monitoring system. The 
stronger the reporting system is, the better.
- If the data were saved in a 
SQL database, would you want direct access to the DBMS?

Yes. There are users out there that are always going to want to 
access the data in ways that Dartware didn't/couldn't foresee. Making it 
so that people can access the raw data themselves helps alleviate the 
problem. If the need is great enough for the user, they will simply write 
the tool themselves, and hopefully make the tool available to others. This 
just makes InterMapper a better product for everyone. Leveraging the user 
base to write custom reports makes a lot of sense, just like you have done with 
custom probes.
- How would you use 
this data? To help improve service? To look for trouble spots? To convince your 
boss you're doing a good job? :-) 
All of these. I would primarily use it for trend analysis. 
Being able to see and quantify things like outages, traffic patterns, server 
utilization, etc. etc.is a powerful tool to help account for them in the 
future.

Jonathan ShermanNetwork AdministratorHudsonville Public 
Schools


RE: InterMapper and Reporting - Take 2

2003-08-27 Thread Visick, David
Hi,

I too am very appreciative of your efforts to extend and enhance
Intermapper's abilities.  It's truly refreshing to see.

I'm starting to use the notification schedule mechanism in InterMapper
to forward notifications of SNMP traps using the Notify Via: Electronic
mail (SMTP) option.  It does exactly what I need it to for the link
up/down traps that we receive from our Catalysts but there's one thing
that I would like to see:

- Currently when it sends the email it tells you the ifIndex of the
interface that has gone up/down and in many cases that isn't always
intuitive or easy to identify.  It would be nice if there was a way to
change that flag such that it forwards the Port Name instead of the
ifIndex.  For example, in Cisco CatOS it would be nice to translate it
to mod/port or in Cisco IOS interface ATM#/#/#.#, GigabitEthernet #/#,
etc


Thanks a million,

David Visick


 -Original Message-
 From: Richard E. Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:00 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: InterMapper and Reporting - Take 2
 
 
 Folks:
 
 A few weeks ago, I sent a request to the InterMapper-Talk
 list asking for your thoughts on reporting facilities that 
 you would like to see in future versions of InterMapper. 
 Thanks to all who responded. I have summarized the responses 
 on this page:
 
   http://www.intermapper.com/featurerequests/reporting.html
 
 I want to give a second chance to people who didn't have time
 to respond the first time. Please read the original request 
 (below), and respond to this list. We'll add your thoughts to 
 our list.
 
 In addition, I have asked a colleague, Carl Pedersen, to
 follow up with people who have replied. He'll contact you 
 through e-mail or phone to ask some in-depth questions about 
 what you'd like to see.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Rich Brown
 Dartware, LLC
 
 = Original call for comments =
 
 We are beginning to think about enhancements to future
 versions of InterMapper. One frequent request we hear is for 
 better reporting capabilities. 
 
 Now that strip charts are implemented in InterMapper
 Remote/Console, InterMapper can provide a certain measure of 
 historical information. But it's likely that you would like 
 to see InterMapper could collect, format and display lots of 
 other data. 
 
 We'd like to know what kinds of reports or historical data
 that would be useful. Use the questions below as starters, 
 and send your thoughts back to this list to spur further comments. 
 -Do you need daily, weekly, monthly reports? Of what kinds of
 information? 
 -Do you want reports of outages, traffic trends, utilization? 
 -Do you care how the data is saved? Would text files 
 suffice? Is an SQL
 database required? 
 -If the data were saved in a SQL database, would you 
 want direct access
 to the DBMS? 
 -How would you use this data? To help improve 
 service? To look for
 trouble spots? To convince your boss you're doing a good job? :-) 
 
 We look forward to your thoughts. Many thanks!
 
 Rich Brown
 Dartware, LLC 
 
 
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