Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: On 23 Jul 2014, at 14:38, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: My sincerest apologies about all the mess earlier and the delay. Both me and Zeev are happy enough with the RFC, so the voting for this RFC has started (again). It shall end on 2014-07-30 (next Wednesday, a week’s time) and it won’t be cancelled this time. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6#vote The vote has ended. By 58 votes to 24, the next major release of PHP, to succeed the 5.x series, shall be named PHP 7. Hopefully this is the end of the matter and we can get onto matters of implementation and features, rather than naming. :) Finally, back to interesting stuff :-) Julien.P
Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
Good stuff everyone. Glad the vote went through. On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 4:27 AM, Julien Pauli jpa...@php.net wrote: On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: On 23 Jul 2014, at 14:38, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: My sincerest apologies about all the mess earlier and the delay. Both me and Zeev are happy enough with the RFC, so the voting for this RFC has started (again). It shall end on 2014-07-30 (next Wednesday, a week’s time) and it won’t be cancelled this time. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6#vote The vote has ended. By 58 votes to 24, the next major release of PHP, to succeed the 5.x series, shall be named PHP 7. Hopefully this is the end of the matter and we can get onto matters of implementation and features, rather than naming. :) Finally, back to interesting stuff :-) Julien.P -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
On 23 Jul 2014, at 14:38, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: My sincerest apologies about all the mess earlier and the delay. Both me and Zeev are happy enough with the RFC, so the voting for this RFC has started (again). It shall end on 2014-07-30 (next Wednesday, a week’s time) and it won’t be cancelled this time. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6#vote The vote has ended. By 58 votes to 24, the next major release of PHP, to succeed the 5.x series, shall be named PHP 7. Hopefully this is the end of the matter and we can get onto matters of implementation and features, rather than naming. :) -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
Good afternoon, My sincerest apologies about all the mess earlier and the delay. Both me and Zeev are happy enough with the RFC, so the voting for this RFC has started (again). It shall end on 2014-07-30 (next Wednesday, a week’s time) and it won’t be cancelled this time. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6#vote Thanks! -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
Somewhat unrelated to this vote in particular, but someone mentioned on IRC that it would be cool to see votes chronologically so I wrote a short JS snippet that does just that. In case anyone is interested for archeological purposes: https://gist.github.com/Seldaek/bc0ae0e2bf1617d71ed7 -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: Good afternoon, My sincerest apologies about all the mess earlier and the delay. Both me and Zeev are happy enough with the RFC, so the voting for this RFC has started (again). It shall end on 2014-07-30 (next Wednesday, a week’s time) and it won’t be cancelled this time. https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6#vote Thanks! -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/ did you consider resetting the vote as the text was changed multiple times after the voting begun? I also think that it would be reasonable to have two weeks for the votes to come in, as https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting states that There'd be a minimum of 2 weeks between when an RFC that touches the language is brought up on this list and when it's voted on is required. and while the code impact for this rfc is really small (modifying the version numbers), but it is an important decision for the project and for the language. sorry if it feels being too bureaucratic -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
did you consider resetting the vote as the text was changed multiple times after the voting begun? It was reset. S
Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
On 23 Jul 2014, at 15:21, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: I also think that it would be reasonable to have two weeks for the votes to come in, as https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting states that There'd be a minimum of 2 weeks between when an RFC that touches the language is brought up on this list and when it's voted on is required. and while the code impact for this rfc is really small (modifying the version numbers), but it is an important decision for the project and for the language. sorry if it feels being too bureaucratic That refers to the minimum time for discussion, I don’t think we need 2 weeks for a vote. In a week’s time when the vote would end, if it looks like not enough people have voted, I suppose it could be extended. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/ -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: On 23 Jul 2014, at 15:21, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: I also think that it would be reasonable to have two weeks for the votes to come in, as https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting states that There'd be a minimum of 2 weeks between when an RFC that touches the language is brought up on this list and when it's voted on is required. and while the code impact for this rfc is really small (modifying the version numbers), but it is an important decision for the project and for the language. sorry if it feels being too bureaucratic That refers to the minimum time for discussion, I don’t think we need 2 weeks for a vote. In a week’s time when the vote would end, if it looks like not enough people have voted, I suppose it could be extended. argh, you I right, the relevant part is The voting has minimal period of 1 week, which can be extended when circumstances warrant it., so one week is fine by the rules. -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Sean Coates s...@seancoates.com wrote: did you consider resetting the vote as the text was changed multiple times after the voting begun? It was reset. S whoops, sorry. then I'm really surprised the number of votes already in. -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: On 23 Jul 2014, at 15:21, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: I also think that it would be reasonable to have two weeks for the votes to come in, as https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting states that There'd be a minimum of 2 weeks between when an RFC that touches the language is brought up on this list and when it's voted on is required. and while the code impact for this rfc is really small (modifying the version numbers), but it is an important decision for the project and for the language. sorry if it feels being too bureaucratic That refers to the minimum time for discussion, I don’t think we need 2 weeks for a vote. In a week’s time when the vote would end, if it looks like not enough people have voted, I suppose it could be extended. argh, you I right, the relevant part is The voting has minimal period of 1 week, which can be extended when circumstances warrant it., so one week is fine by the rules. -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu Wow, looks like the PHP 7 votes are dominating so far. If you want to avoid the confusion and ridicule that will result from skipping a version increment, I suggest you remember to cast your vote. Editorial aside, I'm glad that the two sides were able to come together and get this to a vote finally. --Kris
Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
On 23/07/14 19:23, Kris Craig wrote: Wow, looks like the PHP 7 votes are dominating so far. If you want to avoid the confusion and ridicule that will result from skipping a version increment, I suggest you remember to cast your vote. Since PHP6 existed then sorry but using it again is just as confusing ;) There will be ridicule either way, so that is no reason for reusing a version number again. We just tag PHP6 exactly as it is documented - closed in 2010 - a fact that seems to have been dropped again from the arguments in the RFC :( -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP (again)
On Jul 23, 2014, at 11:23 AM, Kris Craig kris.cr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 7:39 AM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 4:32 PM, Andrea Faulds a...@ajf.me wrote: On 23 Jul 2014, at 15:21, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: I also think that it would be reasonable to have two weeks for the votes to come in, as https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting states that There'd be a minimum of 2 weeks between when an RFC that touches the language is brought up on this list and when it's voted on is required. and while the code impact for this rfc is really small (modifying the version numbers), but it is an important decision for the project and for the language. sorry if it feels being too bureaucratic That refers to the minimum time for discussion, I don’t think we need 2 weeks for a vote. In a week’s time when the vote would end, if it looks like not enough people have voted, I suppose it could be extended. argh, you I right, the relevant part is The voting has minimal period of 1 week, which can be extended when circumstances warrant it., so one week is fine by the rules. -- Ferenc Kovács @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu Wow, looks like the PHP 7 votes are dominating so far. If you want to avoid the confusion and ridicule that will result from skipping a version increment, I suggest you remember to cast your vote. Let's keep this clean and not start a 100 email thread restating what both view points have already said many times or do an artificial rally. Editorial aside, I'm glad that the two sides were able to come together and get this to a vote finally. --Kris -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
