Re: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
Marcus Boerger wrote: to be honest, what is wrong with svn for you? Do you branch off your own PHP? No, so what's wrong? To easy to use for 99.99% of people using PHP repository? But please (everyone) just think of it and don't comment anymore. As I said previously, my personal opinion has no matter in it. I'm just saying that Travis's proposal is a good one and retains many of the benefits of Git (esp. in patch preparation) especially if it's officially blessed. Cheers, Edward -- Edward Z. YangGnuPG: 0x869C48DA HTML Purifier http://htmlpurifier.org Anti-XSS Filter [[ 3FA8 E9A9 7385 B691 A6FC B3CB A933 BE7D 869C 48DA ]] -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
Travis Swicegood wrote: On a slightly related note, would anyone else be interested in seeing a Git repository along side Subversion? Even if people can't commit to the Git repo, I'd be happy to help set it up with the ability for them to push changes back to the SVN repo once they've prepared their patches. That would certainly be nice! I would normally advocate a full switch from CVS to Git, but since it seems the general consensus is to SVN, a parallel Git repository would greatly aid those of us stuck on Windows with bjorked git-svn installs. -- Edward Z. YangGnuPG: 0x869C48DA HTML Purifier http://htmlpurifier.org Anti-XSS Filter [[ 3FA8 E9A9 7385 B691 A6FC B3CB A933 BE7D 869C 48DA ]] -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
Hello Edward, to be honest, what is wrong with svn for you? Do you branch off your own PHP? No, so what's wrong? To easy to use for 99.99% of people using PHP repository? But please (everyone) just think of it and don't comment anymore. The decision has been made we are going for SVN and nothing else at this point. And yes. Once that is done and works for everyone we might look into more complex solutions. Just to make the about 10 developers like myself who really need their own branching support happy. ... dreams can get true :-) marcus Tuesday, July 29, 2008, 5:46:51 AM, you wrote: Travis Swicegood wrote: On a slightly related note, would anyone else be interested in seeing a Git repository along side Subversion? Even if people can't commit to the Git repo, I'd be happy to help set it up with the ability for them to push changes back to the SVN repo once they've prepared their patches. That would certainly be nice! I would normally advocate a full switch from CVS to Git, but since it seems the general consensus is to SVN, a parallel Git repository would greatly aid those of us stuck on Windows with bjorked git-svn installs. -- Edward Z. YangGnuPG: 0x869C48DA HTML Purifier http://htmlpurifier.org Anti-XSS Filter [[ 3FA8 E9A9 7385 B691 A6FC B3CB A933 BE7D 869C 48DA ]] Best regards, Marcus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
On Thu, 2008-07-24 at 20:25 -0400, Gwynne Raskind wrote: Yes, I read that. But the conversion of the repository itself is only half the battle. There are a bunch of scripts in CVSROOT that need to be ported over to SVN somehow. My plan was to work on those next. not only CVSROOT, there are also some vcs-specific script in php-src (like cvsclean or scripts for snaps building), scripts on the snaps box to build snaps, on master to generate docs and websites, which all have to found, analyzed, rewritten. So a rather long running project where he repository conversion is one of the smallest problem (enough big projects did that so if there are problems there are many places to ask, whereas the whole infrastructure around has to be analyzed...) :-) johannes -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
Now that Subversion 1.5 has been out for a little while and it is at the point where it might actually have some benefit to us, do we have some volunteers who have some time to try converting over the repository and all the post-commit and ACL rules from CVSROOT? Talking to people here at OSCON, the consensus seems to be that moving to Subversion at this point would worthwhile. The Git/Bzr/Merc folks have better tools to deal with a central svn repository than cvs at this point, and the svn workflow and Windows tools won't leave all our less technical committers floundering. I think the most convenient approach would be to do the conversion directly on the cvs.php.net machine and run the two side-by-side with periodic imports to svn while we test things and then a freeze and a switchover at some point. -Rasmus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Now that Subversion 1.5 has been out for a little while and it is at the point where it might actually have some benefit to us, do we have some volunteers who have some time to try converting over the repository and all the post-commit and ACL rules from CVSROOT? Talking to people here at OSCON, the consensus seems to be that moving to Subversion at this point would worthwhile. The Git/Bzr/ Merc folks have better tools to deal with a central svn repository than cvs at this point, and the svn workflow and Windows tools won't leave all our less technical committers floundering. I think the most convenient approach would be to do the conversion directly on the cvs.php.net machine and run the two side-by-side with periodic imports to svn while we test things and then a freeze and a switchover at some point. See my Wiki on it at http://wiki.php.net/svnmigration, I'm planning to get back to it this weekend. -- Gwynne, Daughter of the Code This whole world is an asylum for the incurable. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:05 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that Subversion 1.5 has been out for a little while and it is at the point where it might actually have some benefit to us, do we have some volunteers who have some time to try converting over the repository and all the post-commit and ACL rules from CVSROOT? You can count me in. I converted all of my websites and inside projects from CVS to SVN earlier this year. It seemed a daunting task, but it was trivial at best. I didn't use any of the automated tools, though, I did it all manually. Talking to people here at OSCON, the consensus seems to be that moving to Subversion at this point would worthwhile. The Git/Bzr/Merc folks have better tools to deal with a central svn repository than cvs at this point, and the svn workflow and Windows tools won't leave all our less technical committers floundering. Not to mention the community of developers for SVN, add-ons, et cetera, and the ease of use via Apache. I think the most convenient approach would be to do the conversion directly on the cvs.php.net machine and run the two side-by-side with periodic imports to svn while we test things and then a freeze and a switchover at some point. I'd agree. It may not hurt to write a quick script to do real-life commits to both services from the command line, as well, in the beginning. -- /Daniel P. Brown Better prices on dedicated servers: Intel 2.4GHz/60GB/512MB/2TB $49.99/mo. Intel 3.06GHz/80GB/1GB/2TB $59.99/mo. Dedicated servers, VPS, and hosting from $2.50/mo. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
Gwynne Raskind wrote: On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:05 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Now that Subversion 1.5 has been out for a little while and it is at the point where it might actually have some benefit to us, do we have some volunteers who have some time to try converting over the repository and all the post-commit and ACL rules from CVSROOT? Talking to people here at OSCON, the consensus seems to be that moving to Subversion at this point would worthwhile. The Git/Bzr/Merc folks have better tools to deal with a central svn repository than cvs at this point, and the svn workflow and Windows tools won't leave all our less technical committers floundering. I think the most convenient approach would be to do the conversion directly on the cvs.php.net machine and run the two side-by-side with periodic imports to svn while we test things and then a freeze and a switchover at some point. See my Wiki on it at http://wiki.php.net/svnmigration, I'm planning to get back to it this weekend. Yes, I read that. But the conversion of the repository itself is only half the battle. There are a bunch of scripts in CVSROOT that need to be ported over to SVN somehow. -Rasmus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
On Jul 24, 2008, at 8:23 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Now that Subversion 1.5 has been out for a little while and it is at the point where it might actually have some benefit to us, do we have some volunteers who have some time to try converting over the repository and all the post-commit and ACL rules from CVSROOT? Talking to people here at OSCON, the consensus seems to be that moving to Subversion at this point would worthwhile. The Git/Bzr/Merc folks have better tools to deal with a central svn repository than cvs at this point, and the svn workflow and Windows tools won't leave all our less technical committers floundering. I think the most convenient approach would be to do the conversion directly on the cvs.php.net machine and run the two side-by-side with periodic imports to svn while we test things and then a freeze and a switchover at some point. See my Wiki on it at http://wiki.php.net/svnmigration, I'm planning to get back to it this weekend. Yes, I read that. But the conversion of the repository itself is only half the battle. There are a bunch of scripts in CVSROOT that need to be ported over to SVN somehow. My plan was to work on those next. -- Gwynne, Daughter of the Code This whole world is an asylum for the incurable. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
I'd love to see this conversion. Let's make sure we get enough folks to volunteer to check the history of our source trees although we should in any case keep the CVS one around for browsing just in case... Andi -Original Message- From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2008 5:06 PM To: PHP Developers Mailing List Subject: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net? Now that Subversion 1.5 has been out for a little while and it is at the point where it might actually have some benefit to us, do we have some volunteers who have some time to try converting over the repository and all the post-commit and ACL rules from CVSROOT? Talking to people here at OSCON, the consensus seems to be that moving to Subversion at this point would worthwhile. The Git/Bzr/Merc folks have better tools to deal with a central svn repository than cvs at this point, and the svn workflow and Windows tools won't leave all our less technical committers floundering. I think the most convenient approach would be to do the conversion directly on the cvs.php.net machine and run the two side-by-side with periodic imports to svn while we test things and then a freeze and a switchover at some point. -Rasmus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
I've done a bunch of stuff with svn commit hooks and am willing to lend a hand. -lucas (mobile) On Jul 24, 2008, at 17:06, Rasmus Lerdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now that Subversion 1.5 has been out for a little while and it is at the point where it might actually have some benefit to us, do we have some volunteers who have some time to try converting over the repository and all the post-commit and ACL rules from CVSROOT? Talking to people here at OSCON, the consensus seems to be that moving to Subversion at this point would worthwhile. The Git/Bzr/ Merc folks have better tools to deal with a central svn repository than cvs at this point, and the svn workflow and Windows tools won't leave all our less technical committers floundering. I think the most convenient approach would be to do the conversion directly on the cvs.php.net machine and run the two side-by-side with periodic imports to svn while we test things and then a freeze and a switchover at some point. -Rasmus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to see this conversion. Let's make sure we get enough folks to volunteer to check the history of our source trees although we should in any case keep the CVS one around for browsing just in case... Is this something with which we'd want only folks with existing CVS accounts to help? If we were to open up the initial SVN to people not (or not yet) affiliated with the group, we may be able to garner some responses from well-versed SVN folks (specifically CVS-to-SVN) who may just not have time to dedicated to the advancement of PHP as a whole. -- /Daniel P. Brown Better prices on dedicated servers: Intel 2.4GHz/60GB/512MB/2TB $49.99/mo. Intel 3.06GHz/80GB/1GB/2TB $59.99/mo. Dedicated servers, VPS, and hosting from $2.50/mo. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
If it's not happening in the next month, I'd be happy to help. I did the SimpleTest CVS to SVN conversion in about 5 minutes (including waiting on the history to be converted). I've also worked with the hook scripts and such in SVN so I might be able to help out there if someone else doesn't already have it covered. On a slightly related note, would anyone else be interested in seeing a Git repository along side Subversion? Even if people can't commit to the Git repo, I'd be happy to help set it up with the ability for them to push changes back to the SVN repo once they've prepared their patches. -T Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: Now that Subversion 1.5 has been out for a little while and it is at the point where it might actually have some benefit to us, do we have some volunteers who have some time to try converting over the repository and all the post-commit and ACL rules from CVSROOT? Talking to people here at OSCON, the consensus seems to be that moving to Subversion at this point would worthwhile. The Git/Bzr/Merc folks have better tools to deal with a central svn repository than cvs at this point, and the svn workflow and Windows tools won't leave all our less technical committers floundering. I think the most convenient approach would be to do the conversion directly on the cvs.php.net machine and run the two side-by-side with periodic imports to svn while we test things and then a freeze and a switchover at some point. -Rasmus -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Volunteers for Subversion 1.5 conversion of cvs.php.net?
On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:14 PM, Sean Coates wrote: Do we have a preference of Apache's SVN or svnserve? The former requires Apache 2+, AFAIK. I'd like to kick this discussion over to the svn-migration@ list; there are a lot of points to consider in this question and internals@ has enough threads as it is. -- Gwynne, Daughter of the Code This whole world is an asylum for the incurable. -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
