Re: Abandoning darcs

2009-03-27 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
On 2009-03-27, Nicolas Schier sch...@shf.de wrote:
 have you already decided which SCM you want to switch to? I have noticed
 you took a look at mercurial... I for myself am very content with it,
 but I know that your requirements have mostly a little higher level.

Probably Mercurial. I've been using it for all new repositories 
anyway. It mostly sucks compared to darcs, but I don't know anything
better that's portable. Stupid GHC, stupid compilers, their
bootstrapping, and complicated build systems.

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Re: Abandoning darcs

2009-03-27 Thread Sylvain Abélard
 If only Apple wasn't so blur-fascist, and had 4:3 laptops with a nipple...
And non-glossy screens for all configurations, not just for  2000€ ones.

 Although, I did try the _huge_ touchpad on one of the newer
 Apple laptops recently, and it was far better than most I've come
 across: no need to be skating back and forth, actually quite comfortable

And the slide with two fingers scrolls whatever content you have is
incredibly handy. Luckily this is being copied to more and more
computers (netbooks).
The rest is mostly candy for demoes, but the zoom and rotate features
are cool and handy for the visual stuff.

 to move the cursor with it. But, still, it's in the way of typing --
 can't rest your thumbs anywhere

I'm testing this right now. That's not really a problem to keep your
thumbs on the trackpad, even with the tap-mode activated. If they
move a little, your mouse will flicker (thak God, it disappears when
you're typing), but that's not really a big deal.

The most painful is Window Management (missing ion so much) and that
Spaces multi-desktop thing not well integrated, especially
overriding some keyboard bindings (which are customisable with
limited choices, all of them not satisfying).

You may find yourself disappointed at their quite-non-standard
keyboard layout and some other inconsistencies, but they're less
painful.

Apparently there are some external tools but they tend to break things
more than they solve problems.

-- 
Sylvain Abélard
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Re: Abandoning darcs

2009-03-27 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
On 2009-03-27, Sylvain Abélard sylvain.abel...@gmail.com wrote:
 If only Apple wasn't so blur-fascist, and had 4:3 laptops with a nipple...
 And non-glossy screens for all configurations, not just for  2000€ ones.

Well, yes, but the situation is almost the same on PCs: all the 
affordable models have a glossy screen.. and typically crappy 
keyboards. And the nipple you find only on the el cheapo Thinkpad
SL models. The better T-model Thinkpads are just as expensive
as Macbook Pros in .fi but come with a shallowscreen and megabezels
these days. (The Thinkpads tend to be about 500e cheaper in .de 
compared to .fi!)

 I'm testing this right now. That's not really a problem to keep your
 thumbs on the trackpad, even with the tap-mode activated. If they
 move a little, your mouse will flicker (thak God, it disappears when
 you're typing), but that's not really a big deal.

Would have to try for an extended period to find out if they'd
have managed to make it work tolerably, but so far I've always had
to disable to trackpad to be able to use a laptop.

 The most painful is Window Management (missing ion so much) and that
 Spaces multi-desktop thing not well integrated, especially
 overriding some keyboard bindings (which are customisable with
 limited choices, all of them not satisfying).

Sure you can run Ion in X in OS X? I run it in Windows XP under
Cygwin/X, and half of my apps/windows there. (In Xterm, but
also plan to use gv/xpdf/xdvi for TeXing when it comes time 
to write something again.) It works comfortably enough, switching
between Windows and Ion, after I changed Mod1+Tab to Mod1+Q
in Ion, instead of passing -keyhook to X, which disables the
Windows key too, which I'd like to work (could then Win+tab
on the taskbar). This keeps the Windows window-count tolerable;
it couldn't handle the gazillion terminals comfortably without 
a tabbing terminal emulator or something... but that's just Ion
then; I consider it my IDE.

 You may find yourself disappointed at their quite-non-standard
 keyboard layout 

I have to reconfigure the keyboard on any system I plan to actually
use for anything, in any case. Done that on Windows too. (Caps lock = 
control, extra altgr between shift and z, extra altgr+key bindings [1].
No dead keys, they suck.) 

  [1]: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.window-managers.ion.general/8542


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Re: Abandoning darcs

2009-03-27 Thread Tuomo Valkonen
On 2009-03-27 08:19 +, Tuomo Valkonen wrote:
 On 2009-03-27, Nicolas Schier sch...@shf.de wrote:
  have you already decided which SCM you want to switch to? I have noticed
  you took a look at mercurial... I for myself am very content with it,
  but I know that your requirements have mostly a little higher level.
 
 Probably Mercurial. I've been using it for all new repositories 
 anyway. It mostly sucks compared to darcs, but I don't know anything
 better that's portable. Stupid GHC, stupid compilers, their
 bootstrapping, and complicated build systems.

*sigh* Even in my Windows switch, FOSS crap causes the most trouble. 
GHC: fail (= Darcs: fail, lua-xgettext: fail, riot: fail).
Ikiwiki: fail. And Cygwin itself poorly supports locales (i.e., UTF-8
in practise), although with some effort I've managed to make it mostly
work. Ion is one that doesn't support non-ascii... with the settings 
that other stuff works with. The problem seems to be, once again, that
X doesn't quite understand the cygwin/libc locales. Cygwin bash is 
also _slow_... actually wrote my first _much_ faster (still under cygwin)
python program [1] ever thanks to this.

Windows (XP) itself works quite smoothly.. far better than Modern
Linux, so far.. but doesn't natively provide all the software I'd 
like to use. Maybe coLinux would work better than Cygwin, although
it's in principle an ugly solution, and seems to be poorly supported
and difficult to set up... plus you have to deal with all the current
Linux crap [2] that I want to escape from, unless there's some lightweight
coLinux-oriented distro that strips away all that useless crap.

If only Apple wasn't so blur-fascist, and had 4:3 laptops with a
nipple... Although, I did try the _huge_ touchpad on one of the newer
Apple laptops recently, and it was far better than most I've come 
across: no need to be skating back and forth, actually quite comfortable
to move the cursor with it. But, still, it's in the way of typing -- 
can't rest your thumbs anywhere, whereas on the Trackpoint you can 
comfortable rest them on the buttons, ready to press -- and you need
to move your hand to actually use it, while the Trackpoint is simply
an integral part of the keyboard.

  [1]: A small tool to backup ID3 tags, eyeD3 providing a python library for
   reading and copying the raw frames to dummy files. Since copying my
   music collection from CDs and DVDs to a hard drive -- it's quite
   incredible in how small a package 500G goes in a usb-powered 2.5
   disk, compared to the pile of 3.5 disks I had with combined capacity
   of just 300G... and these aren't big compared to stuff you find from
   the 80's -- and switching from mocp to foobar2000, I've been adding
   tags to my collection and downloading cover art, and need to back them
   up separately.

  [2]: http://iki.fi/tuomov/b/archives/2009/03/13/T16_46_57/


\end{another status report written in a moment of boredom and tiredness}

-- 
Tuomo


Re: Abandoning darcs

2009-03-27 Thread Klaus Umbach
On 26/03/09 21:39, Tuomo Valkonen wrote:
 On 2009-03-13 12:09 +, Tuomo Valkonen wrote:
 Has anyone any experience of a simple coLinux setup?
 That wouldn't mess hibernate/standby up? With internal
 samba? No udev and other crap; Windows handles devices.

I used to use it for a while with the default-debian-image, which I
upgraded to a recent version. Hibernation works flawlessly, as it is just a
Windows-Application as any other. It's much faster as cygwin. I don't know
if it can be suspended alone, so you can reboot windows without rebooting
your Linux.

I even used it to connect to my real XFS-partition of the real Linux
besides my Windows, so I could access the data via samba, because there is
no XFS-driver for Windows.

I used XMing as X-Server, which was quite fast.

I don't use it anymore, because Windows drove me crazy, so now I
virtualized Windows in VirtualBox for the few applications I need.

-
Klaus

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