[IRCA] WKNR 850

[Forrester S]

All over KOA right now. Clearly on day power.

Todd Skaine
ICOM 7300 wth a Superloop
2 Modified 2010s barefoot
Toyota car radio
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Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

[Mark Connelly via IRCA]

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I could do a big write-up on East Coast TA & Latin America methodology.  Some 
of the points on live versus "Memorex" would be similar though local sunset 
rather than sunrise is game time.
Instead of doing that, an activity that would require a good amount of time to 
do right, I would like to comment on what Walt said below:
<>
This is absolutely true.  My own Perseus captures date back to 2009, my SDR-IQ 
ones 2007, and I have ones from other DXers in various formats going back at 
least that far.
Interestingly I also have "Perseus captures" from 1986 and 1991.  These were 
captures originally done via the Craig Healy VCR tape method and then "dubbed" 
into the Perseus a few years ago.
Beyond news and entertainment content, any captures 8 or more years old made on 
this side of the US are likely to contain DX stations which no longer exist.  
In another post I mentioned how northern Europe has been cleaned out in recent 
years.  But I can bring up an old capture file and once again enjoy the awesome 
signal of a Norway 1314 for example.  The same applies to domestics with the 
entire province of PEI now dark.  Fire up the old wayback machine and I can 
once again enjoy CHTN on 720, a former PEI boomer.
So don't trash those old files just as you shouldn't let your aircheck mp3's, 
cassettes, and reel-to-reels hit the dustbin of oblivion.
It's all radio history worth preserving.
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Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

[Guy Atkins]

Hi Nick,

As you mention further down in your thoughtful response, indeed, live
listening isn't really my thing. Maybe in retirement, when I don't have a
commute up to two hours each way, live listening will be possible-- and
fun-- again  :^)

Ultimately I'd like to get very comfortable with the Data Analyzer in
SDR-Console, as it's a good visual way to check for activity over time. It
is similar to the Tractor feature in the Jaguar software that I used when I
still DXed with a Perseus receiver.

With my ultrawide format monitor and a 17-inch laptop screen running,
closely spaced waterfall lines aren't as much of a problem as they used to
be. I agree that your DXfishbarrel presents pertinent information with as
little distraction as possible... it's winner and a unique tool!

Our locations are approx. 105 miles apart, so I could conceivably make
regular use of your DXfishbarrel. Didn't you used to have a version of this
running on the DR-333 receiver back in the day?

73, Guy


On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 7:59 PM, Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:

> Thanks Guy.   I agree that this is a very effective method for top of the
> hour ID searches.   However, here I'm reviewing up to 90 minutes of files
> every day, and SDR technology is capable of more than clicking on  a
> playback bar when reviewing potential DX over that much time.
>
> I mentioned the DXFishbarrel, which uses an older SDR, and which can be
> recorded as a video from screen.  An initial analysis of conditions
> changing over 90 minutes can take very little time.   See
> http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/4all/FBarrelSept2018.avi for a
> minute long analysis of this morning. (yellow, orange and red on the color
> bars indicate signals with audio) The Japanese big guns are there of
> course, but at 13:37UT, 1422 pops up for less than a minute in the original
> recording with a woman in Japanese at good level:
> http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/4all/1422_20180922_1337.wav And
> then, for a quick fade up and down for 30 seconds or so, check out 1701kHz
> at 13:44UT http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/4all/1701_20180922_134
> 4.wav (Brisvaani judging by the 30Hz offset?)
>
> Those were found with that minute long scan of signals over the entire
> band, and of course there is much more, but both of those were unusual, so
> caught my eye.   So, SDR's could do this, and if anyone knows of software
> that performs similarly, please let us know.   I'm not a programmer, and
> I'd be happy to hear of someone who is, that can deliver a worthwhile
> product, as I've heard that this one doesn't quite cut it.
>
> This was initially developed for assisting live listening with the R8,
> nearly 10 years ago when SDRs covered only 190kHz or so of bandwidth, but,
> even in those days, the SDR-14 had a spectrum analysis function for up to
> 30MHz bandwidth.  There's an IRCA reprint from that time describing the
> details
>
> If live listening isn't your thing, then my system won't be much use to
> you, unless you operate and record your own copy for later playback.   But
> seeing that it writes to the web (http://www3.telus.net/public/
> shallpat/test/display.htm), it's a fairly good initial indicator for
> anyone in a 100 mile radius of here, that maybe you should (or should not?)
> be using the radio, and it is easier on the eyes than peering at over 1MHz
> worth of closely spaced lines on a screen, especially on a phone-sized
> screen, which is what I tend to use to check what is happening on the
> radio.  And once you are warned, and are live listening, its display of a
> suddenly fading up 1422kHz signal (such as this morning) will catch the eye
> far faster than one of those closely spaced lines on a normal SDR
> waterfall.  And, yes, SDR has been used for live listening here  for over
> five years, while recording at the same timeno, not a Perseus,
>
> Admittedly, my interest is more in propagation peculiarities than in
> logging new ones, though I've certainly never turned down the new or
> unusual ones that have turned up during these searches.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Nick
>
>
>
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Re: [IRCA] 1566 Benin into Michigan

[Mark Connelly via IRCA]

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I read the 160-m Topband list postings and have noted recent chatter about 
contacts between Europe and the NW US / western Canada along with the more 
typically reliable propagation to the East Coast and Great Lakes areas.
Most of these polar-path contacts have been from hams in Germany, Poland, and 
the Scandinavian countries.
Should there be great TA medium-wave going on in OR, WA, and BC?
Theoretically yes .. BUT .. the most likely stations that would propagate would 
be northerly ones that could skip within the "auroral doughnut hole."
Where are the big gun northern Europe stations?  Other than the UK, largely 
gone.
We all remember the screamers of yesteryear: Norway 1314, Sweden 1179, Finland 
963, Denmark 1062, Holland 747, Germany 756/1269/1422/1593, Poland 1503, 
Austria 1476, Switzerland 765/1566.
Gone .. the whole lot.
The Lithuanian on 1386 is about the last fire-breather in its neck of the woods.
So the hams really have the advantage in working those rare juicy transpolar 
openings since northern Europe is still loaded up with active stations.  MW, 
not so much.
Mark Connelly, WA1IONSouth Yarmouth, MA
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Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 22 September 2018

[Chuck Hutton]

Perhaps but Sport (NZ) is my most regular DU.


Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Gary DeBock 

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 8:02 PM
To: n.pimbl...@gmail.com; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of 
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 22 September 2018

Hi Nigel,

Thanks for your detailed DU-DX report from Alberta.

<<< I was interested to note that Tim
included 693 on his DU carrier list this am, as I noted a strong carrier
there, on what is not a typical DU freq for me, and I'm pretty certain
it wasn't Japan this time, as there was absolutely no sign of anything
from that direction. >>>

Judging from your Australian results (and those of Tim) you both probably had a 
weak signal from 693-3NE, which is a major pest in the Cook Islands. It runs 
the Australia Overnight program during sunrise in the Cooks, saving its most 
powerful signal for whenever Bangladesh shows up.

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)

> On September 22, 2018 at 7:17 PM Nigel Pimblett  mailto:nige2...@telus.net > wrote:
>
>
> Once again no Asians at all today, but I'm not complaining at all,
> as it was an excellent DU morning. I was interested to note that Tim
> included 693 on his DU carrier list this am, as I noted a strong carrier
> there, on what is not a typical DU freq for me, and I'm pretty certain
> it wasn't Japan this time, as there was absolutely no sign of anything
> from that direction.
>
>
> 549 2CR Orange, AUSTRALIA Vocal by a woman, //594.
>
> 567 4JK Julia Creek, AUSTRALIA Music prior to the hour, ABC news theme
> at 1300.
>
> 576 2RN Sydney, AUSTRALIA Talk by a man at 1247, //585.
>
> 585 7RN Hobart, AUSTRALIA Talk by a man at 1246, //576
>
> 594 3WV Horsham, AUSTRALIA Vocal by a man during Saturday Night Country
> program at 1238.
>
> 612 4QR Brisbane, AUSTRALIA Man talking about a movie at 1237.
>
> 621 3RN Melbourne, AUSTRALIA Talk by man at 1258, but in heavy splatter
> today.
>
> 639 5CK Port Pirie, AUSTRALIA ABC news at 1233, //891.
>
> 648 unID ABC news noted at 1302. 2NU I would assume?
>
> 675 RNZ National Christchurch, NEW ZEALAND Last portion of news by
> man at 1303, then weather
>
> 684 2KP Kempsey, AUSTRALIA Talk by man and woman, //594
>
> 702 2BL Sydney, AUSTRALIA Time pips, news fanfare at 1300.
>
> 738 2NR Grafton, AUSTRALIA ABC news fanfare at 1300
>
> 774 3LO Melbourne, AUSTRALIA Talk by a a man at 1249.
>
> 792 4RN Brisbane, AUSTRALIA Man talking about Australian sports at 1231.
>
> 828 3GI Sale, AUSTRALIA Weak, with traces of talk by a man at 1258, the
> ABC News fanfare at 1300.
>
> 837 4RK Rockhampton, AUSTRALIA Came out of the mud for a couple of
> minutes at 1306 with woman talking, //855.
>
> 855 4QO/4QB AUSTRALIA ABC news fanfare at 1300.
>
> 891 5AN Adelaide, AUSTRALIA ABC news fanfare at 1230
>
> 1008 4TAB Brisbane, AUSTRALIA Horse race commentary at 1300
>
> 1026 4MK Mackay, AUSTRALIA Bob Seger song at 1235, // webstream.
>
> 1107 unID Traces of man speaking at 1236
>
> 1116 4BC Brisbane, AUSTRALIA Ad for music festival in Tamworth, at 1251.
>
> 1296 unID Talk by a man, but vanished too quickly to check for //.
>
> 1332 4BU Bundaburg, AUSTRALIA "Band on the Run" noted at 1319, //website
>
> 1503 Radio Sport Wellington, NEW ZEALAND Two men in conversation
> about sports.
>
> 1548 4QD Emerald, AUSTRALIA Interview by a woman at 1320.
>
> 73,
>
> Nigel Pimblett
> Dunmore, AB
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[IRCA] Barry McLarnon's AM Site

[David Hochfelder]

...appears to be down. Anyone else seeing this?
http://topazdesigns.com/ambc/

Thanks,

Dave
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Re: [IRCA] 1566 Benin into Michigan

[Nigel Pimblett]

A so-so carrier here in Alberta, but like Walt mentions, pretty dead for 
TAs compared to a few days ago.


73,

Nigel Pimblett
Dunmore, Alberta

On 9/22/2018 10:08 PM, Volodya S wrote:

Unfortunately, unlike a few days ago, zilch on the west coast so
far...Walt

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 4:05 AM Tim Tromp  wrote:


Solid audio right now but getting hammered by domestic splatter.  Slightly
better for me on the North DKAZ but also present on the phased BOGs towards
the northeast.

531 / 549 Algeria, 585 & 837 Spain also in well tonight as well as others..

73,
Tim Tromp
West Michigan
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Re: [IRCA] Question concerning propagation differences

[Nigel Pimblett]

Certainly at my location the low band Australians (below about 700 khz) 
have really been shining this month, relative to prior years.   Most 
years 702/774/891 are the top guns (leaving out 4BC 1116 which seems to 
do well whatever else is happening).    This year 774 and 891 have been 
OK but not stellar, and Sydney on 702 has underperformed.


73,

Nigel Pimblett
Dunmore, Alberta


On 9/21/2018 2:52 PM, Nick Hall-Patch wrote:
As higher power stations tend to congregate on the lower band in many 
locations, the lower band often seems to deliver more regular overseas 
DX here, Carl.   However, the "real" DX seems to be on the higher 
band, on the occasions when the lower power suddenly punch through 
(the extended band Australians sometimes do pretty well considering 
their <1000watts power.for example)


This season so far, I would say that the lower band Asians / 
Australians have been putting on a better show.


best wishes,

Nick






At 20:41 2018-09-20, Carl DeWhitt wrote:

What differences have those in eastern North America noticed between
propagation on the 540-1120KHz segment and the 1120-1700 KHz segment 
over

the years ? Does the lower half or upper half of the band seem better
especially for foreign dx or have you noticed a difference
? Carl DeWhitt,KI5SF,Maryville,TN
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Re: [IRCA] 1566 Benin into Michigan

[Volodya S]

Unfortunately, unlike a few days ago, zilch on the west coast so
far...Walt

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 4:05 AM Tim Tromp  wrote:

> Solid audio right now but getting hammered by domestic splatter.  Slightly
> better for me on the North DKAZ but also present on the phased BOGs towards
> the northeast.
>
> 531 / 549 Algeria, 585 & 837 Spain also in well tonight as well as others..
>
> 73,
> Tim Tromp
> West Michigan
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[IRCA] 1566 Benin into Michigan

[Tim Tromp]

Solid audio right now but getting hammered by domestic splatter.  Slightly
better for me on the North DKAZ but also present on the phased BOGs towards
the northeast.

531 / 549 Algeria, 585 & 837 Spain also in well tonight as well as others..

73,
Tim Tromp
West Michigan
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Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

[Volodya S]

Nick's comments has me replying in addition.  I'm one of the guilty parties
who collect TB of SDR recordings from all over:   mostly Masset, but also
from trans-Pacific cruises, around South America, PEI, and occasionally on
really good mornings here in Victoria.  Using native Perseus software is
not very user friendly in that one cannot choose how much to fast forward,
or rewind, although one can loop a segment and try and dig out a difficult
ID.  Chuck's suggestion about SDR Console prompted me to download the
latest version last night, and I'm impressed with the ease of reviewing
files.  Certainly, it's better for this aspect than native Perseus
software.  Being very much OCD with my recordings, I do tend to listen to
them channel by channel, and many times have noted a fade in lasting for
seconds to less than a minute from fade up, to fade out, so there
definitely is lots of DX to be had if one digs enough.  Also, TOH in my
opinion is often not the best time to snag an ID if only due to adjacent
splatter from stateside stations.  How many times has that happened that
you have a station, say on 891 and the ID is coming, coming, coming, and
then SPLAT, the TOH fanfare from 890 obliterates any chance to hear an ID.
However, if one is patient, another might occur a few minutes later!   Good
discussion, all around.   I'm thinking that my wav files are a "spotlight"
into history now, as they date back over 10 years, and include many
significant dates which are picked up by the various newscasts I recorded.
Walt Salmaniw, Victoria BC
PS:   More on DXing.  When live in Masset, and especially when conditions
are hot, hot, hot, I simply am overwhelmed by the choices presented to me.
Every 9 kHz channel might present at least one TP signal, if not 2 or 3.
Where does one start???  I find that I'll simply record a really long swath
(sometimes over an hour) of spectrum, and then sit back and enjoy LISTENING
to a program that might be particularly interesting, especially NPR
stations from Alaska.  I promise myself that I'll go back and review the
SDR files, but more often than not, the real day begins with my wife, and
off we go to do things on the beach, or in town, so they simply accumulate
until, "another time".   Of course, when I return to Victoria, the job
calls, and no time is left for review, or more likely, the tele gets my
attention, as well as the fatigue of the workday, and nothing more happens
with the SDR files.  Anyone want to start processing mine???  ;-)

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 2:59 AM Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:

> Thanks Guy.   I agree that this is a very effective method for top of
> the hour ID searches.   However, here I'm reviewing up to 90 minutes
> of files every day, and SDR technology is capable of more than
> clicking on  a playback bar when reviewing potential DX over that much
> time.
>
> I mentioned the DXFishbarrel, which uses an older SDR, and which can
> be recorded as a video from screen.  An initial analysis of
> conditions changing over 90 minutes can take very little time.   See
> http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/4all/FBarrelSept2018.avi for a
> minute long analysis of this morning. (yellow, orange and red on the
> color bars indicate signals with audio) The Japanese big guns are
> there of course, but at 13:37UT, 1422 pops up for less than a minute
> in the original recording with a woman in Japanese at good level:
> http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/4all/1422_20180922_1337.wav
> And then, for a quick fade up and down for 30 seconds or so, check
> out 1701kHz at
> 13:44UT
> http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/4all/1701_20180922_1344.wav
> (Brisvaani judging by the 30Hz offset?)
>
> Those were found with that minute long scan of signals over the
> entire band, and of course there is much more, but both of those were
> unusual, so caught my eye.   So, SDR's could do this, and if anyone
> knows of software that performs similarly, please let us know.   I'm
> not a programmer, and I'd be happy to hear of someone who is, that
> can deliver a worthwhile product, as I've heard that this one doesn't
> quite cut it.
>
> This was initially developed for assisting live listening with the
> R8, nearly 10 years ago when SDRs covered only 190kHz or so of
> bandwidth, but, even in those days, the SDR-14 had a spectrum
> analysis function for up to 30MHz bandwidth.  There's an IRCA reprint
> from that time describing the details
>
> If live listening isn't your thing, then my system won't be much use
> to you, unless you operate and record your own copy for later
> playback.   But seeing that it writes to the web
> (http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/test/display.htm), it's a
> fairly good initial indicator for anyone in a 100 mile radius of
> here, that maybe you should (or should not?) be using the radio, and
> it is easier on the eyes than peering at over 1MHz worth of closely
> spaced lines on a screen, especially on a phone-sized screen, which
> is what I tend to use to check 

Re: [IRCA] Alberta TPs for 22 September 2018

[Gary DeBock]

Hi Nigel,

Thanks for your detailed DU-DX report from Alberta.

<<< I was interested to note that Tim
included 693 on his DU carrier list this am, as I noted a strong carrier
there, on what is not a typical DU freq for me, and I'm pretty certain
it wasn't Japan this time, as there was absolutely no sign of anything
from that direction. >>>

Judging from your Australian results (and those of Tim) you both probably had a 
weak signal from 693-3NE, which is a major pest in the Cook Islands. It runs 
the Australia Overnight program during sunrise in the Cooks, saving its most 
powerful signal for whenever Bangladesh shows up.

Gary DeBock (in Puyallup, WA, USA)

> On September 22, 2018 at 7:17 PM Nigel Pimblett  mailto:nige2...@telus.net > wrote:
> 
> 
> Once again no Asians at all today, but I'm not complaining at all,
> as it was an excellent DU morning. I was interested to note that Tim
> included 693 on his DU carrier list this am, as I noted a strong carrier
> there, on what is not a typical DU freq for me, and I'm pretty certain
> it wasn't Japan this time, as there was absolutely no sign of anything
> from that direction.
> 
> 
> 549 2CR Orange, AUSTRALIA Vocal by a woman, //594.
> 
> 567 4JK Julia Creek, AUSTRALIA Music prior to the hour, ABC news theme
> at 1300.
> 
> 576 2RN Sydney, AUSTRALIA Talk by a man at 1247, //585.
> 
> 585 7RN Hobart, AUSTRALIA Talk by a man at 1246, //576
> 
> 594 3WV Horsham, AUSTRALIA Vocal by a man during Saturday Night Country
> program at 1238.
> 
> 612 4QR Brisbane, AUSTRALIA Man talking about a movie at 1237.
> 
> 621 3RN Melbourne, AUSTRALIA Talk by man at 1258, but in heavy splatter
> today.
> 
> 639 5CK Port Pirie, AUSTRALIA ABC news at 1233, //891.
> 
> 648 unID ABC news noted at 1302. 2NU I would assume?
> 
> 675 RNZ National Christchurch, NEW ZEALAND Last portion of news by
> man at 1303, then weather
> 
> 684 2KP Kempsey, AUSTRALIA Talk by man and woman, //594
> 
> 702 2BL Sydney, AUSTRALIA Time pips, news fanfare at 1300.
> 
> 738 2NR Grafton, AUSTRALIA ABC news fanfare at 1300
> 
> 774 3LO Melbourne, AUSTRALIA Talk by a a man at 1249.
> 
> 792 4RN Brisbane, AUSTRALIA Man talking about Australian sports at 1231.
> 
> 828 3GI Sale, AUSTRALIA Weak, with traces of talk by a man at 1258, the
> ABC News fanfare at 1300.
> 
> 837 4RK Rockhampton, AUSTRALIA Came out of the mud for a couple of
> minutes at 1306 with woman talking, //855.
> 
> 855 4QO/4QB AUSTRALIA ABC news fanfare at 1300.
> 
> 891 5AN Adelaide, AUSTRALIA ABC news fanfare at 1230
> 
> 1008 4TAB Brisbane, AUSTRALIA Horse race commentary at 1300
> 
> 1026 4MK Mackay, AUSTRALIA Bob Seger song at 1235, // webstream.
> 
> 1107 unID Traces of man speaking at 1236
> 
> 1116 4BC Brisbane, AUSTRALIA Ad for music festival in Tamworth, at 1251.
> 
> 1296 unID Talk by a man, but vanished too quickly to check for //.
> 
> 1332 4BU Bundaburg, AUSTRALIA "Band on the Run" noted at 1319, //website
> 
> 1503 Radio Sport Wellington, NEW ZEALAND Two men in conversation
> about sports.
> 
> 1548 4QD Emerald, AUSTRALIA Interview by a woman at 1320.
> 
> 73,
> 
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Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

[Nick Hall-Patch]

Thanks Guy.   I agree that this is a very effective method for top of 
the hour ID searches.   However, here I'm reviewing up to 90 minutes 
of files every day, and SDR technology is capable of more than 
clicking on  a playback bar when reviewing potential DX over that much time.


I mentioned the DXFishbarrel, which uses an older SDR, and which can 
be recorded as a video from screen.  An initial analysis of 
conditions changing over 90 minutes can take very little time.   See 
http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/4all/FBarrelSept2018.avi for a 
minute long analysis of this morning. (yellow, orange and red on the 
color bars indicate signals with audio) The Japanese big guns are 
there of course, but at 13:37UT, 1422 pops up for less than a minute 
in the original recording with a woman in Japanese at good level: 
http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/4all/1422_20180922_1337.wav 
And then, for a quick fade up and down for 30 seconds or so, check 
out 1701kHz at 
13:44UT 
http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/4all/1701_20180922_1344.wav 
(Brisvaani judging by the 30Hz offset?)


Those were found with that minute long scan of signals over the 
entire band, and of course there is much more, but both of those were 
unusual, so caught my eye.   So, SDR's could do this, and if anyone 
knows of software that performs similarly, please let us know.   I'm 
not a programmer, and I'd be happy to hear of someone who is, that 
can deliver a worthwhile product, as I've heard that this one doesn't 
quite cut it.


This was initially developed for assisting live listening with the 
R8, nearly 10 years ago when SDRs covered only 190kHz or so of 
bandwidth, but, even in those days, the SDR-14 had a spectrum 
analysis function for up to 30MHz bandwidth.  There's an IRCA reprint 
from that time describing the details


If live listening isn't your thing, then my system won't be much use 
to you, unless you operate and record your own copy for later 
playback.   But seeing that it writes to the web 
(http://www3.telus.net/public/shallpat/test/display.htm), it's a 
fairly good initial indicator for anyone in a 100 mile radius of 
here, that maybe you should (or should not?) be using the radio, and 
it is easier on the eyes than peering at over 1MHz worth of closely 
spaced lines on a screen, especially on a phone-sized screen, which 
is what I tend to use to check what is happening on the radio.  And 
once you are warned, and are live listening, its display of a 
suddenly fading up 1422kHz signal (such as this morning) will catch 
the eye far faster than one of those closely spaced lines on a normal 
SDR waterfall.  And, yes, SDR has been used for live listening 
here  for over five years, while recording at the same timeno, 
not a Perseus,


Admittedly, my interest is more in propagation peculiarities than in 
logging new ones, though I've certainly never turned down the new or 
unusual ones that have turned up during these searches.


best wishes,

Nick


At 18:54 2018-09-22, Guy Atkins wrote:

My thoughts: what Chuck describes is basically what I do for reviewing SDR
recordings, with whatever software I might be using. Clicking carefully on
the playback bar can also advance the recording in increments of your
choice.

Skipping ahead in one-minute increments makes the top-of-the-hour range
we're generally most interested in go by rather quickly during review. As
Chuck described it only takes your brain a second or two to recognize if
there's any content worth pursuing. If not, then a quick click
fast-forwards you to the next minute for a second or two auditory check.
It's kind of the "30,000 ft. view" of the DX, and if anything seems
interesting you can get more granular in your review & playback...that's
the beauty of SDR because nothing is lost.

What I'm listening for is audio rising up to intelligibility (in the case
of threshold signals that may be worthwhile to follow), or in the case of
signals with decent intelligibility already I'm listening for content clues
that there may be an ID, advertisement, or other helpful content in the
"vicinity" of that moment I'm reviewing. If so, then I dive in for a
careful listen.

This minute-by-minute quick checking method is a great way to get past
music so you can get to an announcer's voice.

The same approach works for bottom-of-the-hour and other in-between times
when an ID *might* be heard. However I save these less productive time
frames for after I've exhausted top-of-the-hour possibilities. As Chuck
said, bad or normal nights are obvious and you don't need to waste your
time. Were conditions shown to be great on your recording? Then you may
have a gold mine waiting for you to dig through...that's the fun of
capturing the entire band with an SDR. DXing "live" with a traditional
receiver or an Ultralight is another kind of fun, too. It's all radio, and
all good  :^)

Guy



On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> Nick:
>
>
> If you listen to  a 

Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018

[Nick Hall-Patch]

Thanks Tim.  That makes more sense, though it is interesting that you 
would hear 4QD on a north facing antenna, though I guess 4QD might 
still just be in the forward lobe of the DKaz.  Perhaps it's just 
that the BOGs don't work as well "over the shoulder" at the higher frequencies.


best wishes,

Nick





 At 01:54 2018-09-23, Tim Tromp wrote:

Nick,

For low band DUs like this, my phased BOGs work best.  They are aimed
roughly towards the northeast.  Phasing of course allows me to reverse the
direction and steer them towards the southwest, which I do for these DU
catches.  The DKAZ, when switched to the North, shows no trace of these
signals during A/B comparisons.  When I switch the DKAZ to the South, I may
see just the faintest carrier (if anything at all).

The situation is usually different at the top of the band.  The North DKAZ
is generally better than the BOGs when pulling in 4QD on 1548 and the low
powered Aussies on the X-band during those rare times that propagation is
good here.  Point being, it's good to have multiple antenna options!

73,
-Tim


On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:20 PM, Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:

> I'm sure that you've mentioned this before Tim, but are you using a DKaz
> with a northerly bearing for these logs?   I think someone  mentioned that
> during the IRCA convention.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
> At 01:05 2018-09-23, Tim Tromp wrote:
>
>> Not a bad morning to chase DUs from the Midwest.  576, 594, 612, 702, 738
>> all in with weak audio.  612, 702 & 738 all with Sydney Roosters rugby
>> match.  594 had a very faint trace of talk, and then a hint of music, but
>> much too weak to make a comfortable match against the ABC podcast.  3WV
>> seems very likely though.  As usual, signals peaked during LSR at 11:32
>> UTC
>> this morning and lasted until around 11:40 or so.  Strong carriers also
>> noted on 693, 729, and 747.
>>
>> 73,
>> Tim Tromp
>> West Michigan
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Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018

[Volodya S]

Sorry, Nick, I don't recall.   We haven't repeated the DKAZ's since, as far
as I can recall...Walt

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 2:36 AM Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:

> Bruce Conti might be the one to ask about comparisons, but I don't
> know if he's on the list.
>
> We used both a Beverage and a DKaz in 2016 when I was at PEI, but I
> don't recall any formal comparisons being made.   The Beverage
> initially had some noise ingress problems, so the DKaz was used more
> at first.   I don't recall the DKaz being particularly deaf on the
> low band, but then TA's in PEI are a bit beefier than TPs on the west
> coast.
>
> Walt Salmaniw. was there also, perhaps he has better
> recollection.   And, of course, there may well be files tucked away
> somewhere also.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Nick
>
>
> At 02:06 2018-09-23, Chuck Hutton wrote:
> >Ditto for me. Below 900 kHz, I've never been anywhere near happy
> >with a 160' DKAZ. That is evident with stand alone DKAZ'es and  In
> >direct comparisons with Beverages, there was no contest at all.
> >
> >
> >I wonder if the PEI group has done a comparison?
> >
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >From: IRCA  on behalf of Tim Tromp
> >
> >Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:54 PM
> >To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> >Subject: Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018
> >
> >Nick,
> >
> >For low band DUs like this, my phased BOGs work best.  They are aimed
> >roughly towards the northeast.  Phasing of course allows me to reverse the
> >direction and steer them towards the southwest, which I do for these DU
> >catches.  The DKAZ, when switched to the North, shows no trace of these
> >signals during A/B comparisons.  When I switch the DKAZ to the South, I
> may
> >see just the faintest carrier (if anything at all).
> >
> >The situation is usually different at the top of the band.  The North DKAZ
> >is generally better than the BOGs when pulling in 4QD on 1548 and the low
> >powered Aussies on the X-band during those rare times that propagation is
> >good here.  Point being, it's good to have multiple antenna options!
> >
> >73,
> >-Tim
> >
> >
> >On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:20 PM, Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:
> >
> > > I'm sure that you've mentioned this before Tim, but are you using a
> DKaz
> > > with a northerly bearing for these logs?   I think someone  mentioned
> that
> > > during the IRCA convention.
> > >
> > > best wishes,
> > >
> > > Nick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 01:05 2018-09-23, Tim Tromp wrote:
> > >
> > >> Not a bad morning to chase DUs from the Midwest.  576, 594, 612, 702,
> 738
> > >> all in with weak audio.  612, 702 & 738 all with Sydney Roosters rugby
> > >> match.  594 had a very faint trace of talk, and then a hint of music,
> but
> > >> much too weak to make a comfortable match against the ABC podcast.
> 3WV
> > >> seems very likely though.  As usual, signals peaked during LSR at
> 11:32
> > >> UTC
> > >> this morning and lasted until around 11:40 or so.  Strong carriers
> also
> > >> noted on 693, 729, and 747.
> > >>
> > >> 73,
> > >> Tim Tromp
> > >> West Michigan
> > >> Perseus SDR + Southwest phased BOGs
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Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018

[Nick Hall-Patch]

Bruce Conti might be the one to ask about comparisons, but I don't 
know if he's on the list.


We used both a Beverage and a DKaz in 2016 when I was at PEI, but I 
don't recall any formal comparisons being made.   The Beverage 
initially had some noise ingress problems, so the DKaz was used more 
at first.   I don't recall the DKaz being particularly deaf on the 
low band, but then TA's in PEI are a bit beefier than TPs on the west coast.


Walt Salmaniw. was there also, perhaps he has better 
recollection.   And, of course, there may well be files tucked away 
somewhere also.


best wishes,

Nick


At 02:06 2018-09-23, Chuck Hutton wrote:
Ditto for me. Below 900 kHz, I've never been anywhere near happy 
with a 160' DKAZ. That is evident with stand alone DKAZ'es and  In 
direct comparisons with Beverages, there was no contest at all.



I wonder if the PEI group has done a comparison?


Chuck





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Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:54 PM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018

Nick,

For low band DUs like this, my phased BOGs work best.  They are aimed
roughly towards the northeast.  Phasing of course allows me to reverse the
direction and steer them towards the southwest, which I do for these DU
catches.  The DKAZ, when switched to the North, shows no trace of these
signals during A/B comparisons.  When I switch the DKAZ to the South, I may
see just the faintest carrier (if anything at all).

The situation is usually different at the top of the band.  The North DKAZ
is generally better than the BOGs when pulling in 4QD on 1548 and the low
powered Aussies on the X-band during those rare times that propagation is
good here.  Point being, it's good to have multiple antenna options!

73,
-Tim


On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:20 PM, Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:

> I'm sure that you've mentioned this before Tim, but are you using a DKaz
> with a northerly bearing for these logs?   I think someone  mentioned that
> during the IRCA convention.
>
> best wishes,
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
> At 01:05 2018-09-23, Tim Tromp wrote:
>
>> Not a bad morning to chase DUs from the Midwest.  576, 594, 612, 702, 738
>> all in with weak audio.  612, 702 & 738 all with Sydney Roosters rugby
>> match.  594 had a very faint trace of talk, and then a hint of music, but
>> much too weak to make a comfortable match against the ABC podcast.  3WV
>> seems very likely though.  As usual, signals peaked during LSR at 11:32
>> UTC
>> this morning and lasted until around 11:40 or so.  Strong carriers also
>> noted on 693, 729, and 747.
>>
>> 73,
>> Tim Tromp
>> West Michigan
>> Perseus SDR + Southwest phased BOGs
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Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018

[Volodya S]

Chuck, in Masset, my go to antenna is ALWAYS the BOG.  I'll frequently put
up a DKAZ as well, but it's more of a niche antenna, aimed specifically to
NZ/Australia compared to W BOG, but the signals received are nothing in
comparison.  Loads and loads more with the BOG, but not an exact A/B
comparison due to different directions.   73,  Walt

On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 2:06 AM Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> Ditto for me. Below 900 kHz, I've never been anywhere near happy with a
> 160' DKAZ. That is evident with stand alone DKAZ'es and  In direct
> comparisons with Beverages, there was no contest at all.
>
>
> I wonder if the PEI group has done a comparison?
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: IRCA  on behalf of Tim Tromp <
> kilok...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:54 PM
> To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> Subject: Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018
>
> Nick,
>
> For low band DUs like this, my phased BOGs work best.  They are aimed
> roughly towards the northeast.  Phasing of course allows me to reverse the
> direction and steer them towards the southwest, which I do for these DU
> catches.  The DKAZ, when switched to the North, shows no trace of these
> signals during A/B comparisons.  When I switch the DKAZ to the South, I may
> see just the faintest carrier (if anything at all).
>
> The situation is usually different at the top of the band.  The North DKAZ
> is generally better than the BOGs when pulling in 4QD on 1548 and the low
> powered Aussies on the X-band during those rare times that propagation is
> good here.  Point being, it's good to have multiple antenna options!
>
> 73,
> -Tim
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 9:20 PM, Nick Hall-Patch  wrote:
>
> > I'm sure that you've mentioned this before Tim, but are you using a DKaz
> > with a northerly bearing for these logs?   I think someone  mentioned
> that
> > during the IRCA convention.
> >
> > best wishes,
> >
> > Nick
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 01:05 2018-09-23, Tim Tromp wrote:
> >
> >> Not a bad morning to chase DUs from the Midwest.  576, 594, 612, 702,
> 738
> >> all in with weak audio.  612, 702 & 738 all with Sydney Roosters rugby
> >> match.  594 had a very faint trace of talk, and then a hint of music,
> but
> >> much too weak to make a comfortable match against the ABC podcast.  3WV
> >> seems very likely though.  As usual, signals peaked during LSR at 11:32
> >> UTC
> >> this morning and lasted until around 11:40 or so.  Strong carriers also
> >> noted on 693, 729, and 747.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Tim Tromp
> >> West Michigan
> >> Perseus SDR + Southwest phased BOGs
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[IRCA] Alberta TPs for 22 September 2018

[Nigel Pimblett]

   Once again no Asians at all today, but I'm not complaining at all, 
as it was an excellent DU morning.  I was interested to note that Tim 
included 693 on his DU carrier list this am, as I noted a strong carrier 
there, on what is not a typical DU freq for me, and I'm pretty certain 
it wasn't Japan this time, as there was absolutely no sign of anything 
from that direction.



549 2CR Orange, AUSTRALIA   Vocal by a woman, //594.

567	4JK	Julia Creek, AUSTRALIA	Music prior to the hour, ABC news theme 
at 1300.


576 2RN Sydney, AUSTRALIA   Talk by a man at 1247, //585.

585 7RN Hobart, AUSTRALIA   Talk by a man at 1246, //576

594	3WV	Horsham, AUSTRALIA	Vocal by a man during Saturday Night Country 
program at 1238.


612 4QR Brisbane, AUSTRALIA Man talking about a movie at 1237.

621	3RN	Melbourne, AUSTRALIA	Talk by man at 1258, but in heavy splatter 
today.


639 5CK Port Pirie, AUSTRALIA   ABC news at 1233, //891.

648 unIDABC news noted at 1302.  2NU I would assume?

675	RNZ National	Christchurch, NEW ZEALANDLast portion of news by 
man at 1303, then weather	


684 2KP Kempsey, AUSTRALIA  Talk by man and woman, //594

702 2BL Sydney, AUSTRALIA   Time pips, news fanfare at 1300.

738 2NR Grafton, AUSTRALIA  ABC news fanfare at 1300

774 3LO Melbourne, AUSTRALIATalk by a a man at 1249.

792 4RN Brisbane, AUSTRALIA Man talking about Australian sports at 
1231.

828	3GI	Sale, AUSTRALIA		Weak, with traces of talk by a man at 1258, the 
ABC News fanfare at 1300.


837	4RK	Rockhampton, AUSTRALIA 	Came out of the mud for a couple of 
minutes at 1306 with woman talking, //855.


855 4QO/4QB AUSTRALIAABC news fanfare at 1300.

891 5AN Adelaide, AUSTRALIA ABC news fanfare at 1230

10084TABBrisbane, AUSTRALIA Horse race commentary at 1300

10264MK Mackay, AUSTRALIA  Bob Seger song at 1235, // webstream.

1107unIDTraces of man speaking at 1236

11164BC Brisbane, AUSTRALIA Ad for music festival in Tamworth, at 
1251.

1296unIDTalk by a man, but vanished too quickly to check for //.

13324BU Bundaburg, AUSTRALIA"Band on the Run" noted at 1319, 
//website

1503	Radio Sport	Wellington, NEW ZEALAND	   Two men in conversation 
about sports.


15484QD Emerald, AUSTRALIA   Interview by a woman at 1320.

73,

Nigel Pimblett
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Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018

[R. Colin Newell]

I’ll always remember doing a DXped with Nick, Bruce Portzer and others at 
Sombrio beach near Jordan River... on Vancouver Island - in 1979 or 1980 
1000+ feet Beverages pointed across the Pacific... TP’s still being received 2 
hours after sunrise... Aussies swamping locals... good times... 

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> On Sep 22, 2018, at 7:06 PM, Chuck Hutton  wrote:
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> Ditto for me. Below 900 kHz, I've  never been anywhere near happy with a 160' 
> DKAZ. That is evident with stand alone DKAZ'es and  In direct comparisons 
> with Beverages, there was no contest at all.
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Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018

[Chuck Hutton]

Ditto for me. Below 900 kHz, I've never been anywhere near happy with a 160' 
DKAZ. That is evident with stand alone DKAZ'es and  In direct comparisons with 
Beverages, there was no contest at all.


I wonder if the PEI group has done a comparison?


Chuck





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Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 6:54 PM
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Subject: Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018

Nick,

For low band DUs like this, my phased BOGs work best.  They are aimed
roughly towards the northeast.  Phasing of course allows me to reverse the
direction and steer them towards the southwest, which I do for these DU
catches.  The DKAZ, when switched to the North, shows no trace of these
signals during A/B comparisons.  When I switch the DKAZ to the South, I may
see just the faintest carrier (if anything at all).

The situation is usually different at the top of the band.  The North DKAZ
is generally better than the BOGs when pulling in 4QD on 1548 and the low
powered Aussies on the X-band during those rare times that propagation is
good here.  Point being, it's good to have multiple antenna options!

73,
-Tim


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> with a northerly bearing for these logs?   I think someone  mentioned that
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> best wishes,
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> At 01:05 2018-09-23, Tim Tromp wrote:
>
>> Not a bad morning to chase DUs from the Midwest.  576, 594, 612, 702, 738
>> all in with weak audio.  612, 702 & 738 all with Sydney Roosters rugby
>> match.  594 had a very faint trace of talk, and then a hint of music, but
>> much too weak to make a comfortable match against the ABC podcast.  3WV
>> seems very likely though.  As usual, signals peaked during LSR at 11:32
>> UTC
>> this morning and lasted until around 11:40 or so.  Strong carriers also
>> noted on 693, 729, and 747.
>>
>> 73,
>> Tim Tromp
>> West Michigan
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Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018

[Tim Tromp]

Nick,

For low band DUs like this, my phased BOGs work best.  They are aimed
roughly towards the northeast.  Phasing of course allows me to reverse the
direction and steer them towards the southwest, which I do for these DU
catches.  The DKAZ, when switched to the North, shows no trace of these
signals during A/B comparisons.  When I switch the DKAZ to the South, I may
see just the faintest carrier (if anything at all).

The situation is usually different at the top of the band.  The North DKAZ
is generally better than the BOGs when pulling in 4QD on 1548 and the low
powered Aussies on the X-band during those rare times that propagation is
good here.  Point being, it's good to have multiple antenna options!

73,
-Tim


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> with a northerly bearing for these logs?   I think someone  mentioned that
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>
> best wishes,
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>
> At 01:05 2018-09-23, Tim Tromp wrote:
>
>> Not a bad morning to chase DUs from the Midwest.  576, 594, 612, 702, 738
>> all in with weak audio.  612, 702 & 738 all with Sydney Roosters rugby
>> match.  594 had a very faint trace of talk, and then a hint of music, but
>> much too weak to make a comfortable match against the ABC podcast.  3WV
>> seems very likely though.  As usual, signals peaked during LSR at 11:32
>> UTC
>> this morning and lasted until around 11:40 or so.  Strong carriers also
>> noted on 693, 729, and 747.
>>
>> 73,
>> Tim Tromp
>> West Michigan
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Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018

[R. Colin Newell]

I was late to the game this AM on - 1355 on for about 10 Minutes... a more 
subdued version o’ yesterday here on the windy west coast. 

Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA -

> On Sep 22, 2018, at 6:05 PM, Tim Tromp  wrote:
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> Not a bad morning to chase DUs from the Midwest.  576, 594, 612, 702, 738
> all in with weak audio.  612, 702 & 738 all with Sydney Roosters rugby
> match.  594 had a very faint trace of talk, and then a hint of music, but
> much too weak to make a comfortable match against the ABC podcast.  3WV
> seems very likely though.  As usual, signals peaked during LSR at 11:32 UTC
> this morning and lasted until around 11:40 or so.  Strong carriers also
> noted on 693, 729, and 747.
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> 73,
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Re: [IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018

[Nick Hall-Patch]

I'm sure that you've mentioned this before Tim, but are you using a 
DKaz with a northerly bearing for these logs?   I think 
someone  mentioned that during the IRCA convention.


best wishes,

Nick



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Not a bad morning to chase DUs from the Midwest.  576, 594, 612, 702, 738
all in with weak audio.  612, 702 & 738 all with Sydney Roosters rugby
match.  594 had a very faint trace of talk, and then a hint of music, but
much too weak to make a comfortable match against the ABC podcast.  3WV
seems very likely though.  As usual, signals peaked during LSR at 11:32 UTC
this morning and lasted until around 11:40 or so.  Strong carriers also
noted on 693, 729, and 747.

73,
Tim Tromp
West Michigan
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[IRCA] Michigan DUs, Sept.22, 2018

[Tim Tromp]

Not a bad morning to chase DUs from the Midwest.  576, 594, 612, 702, 738
all in with weak audio.  612, 702 & 738 all with Sydney Roosters rugby
match.  594 had a very faint trace of talk, and then a hint of music, but
much too weak to make a comfortable match against the ABC podcast.  3WV
seems very likely though.  As usual, signals peaked during LSR at 11:32 UTC
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noted on 693, 729, and 747.

73,
Tim Tromp
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Re: [IRCA] [HCDX] WWV: Are they testing us?

[Russ Edmunds]

It has already been announced that WWV and WWVH are on the chopping block
in the new budget and will be eliminated, so this shouldn't be a big
surprise. While I doubt that 'complaints' will likely have no effect, they
also can't hurt.


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> > On Sep 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Arthur Delibert  wrote:
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> > WWV has been broadcasting an outdated propagation report for several
> days, giving the solar flux as of September 18 and K Index as of 1200 on
> September 19.  THIS MAY BE A TEST TO SEE IF ANYONE IS LISTENING, and if
> not, they’ll shut it down.
> >
> > We’ve had similar tests from other SW services prior to shutting down –
> for example, Radio Australia a couple years ago went off the air briefly,
> allegedly for xmtr maintenance; the response from listeners wasn’t strong
> enough, and they used that as evidence to shut down permanently.
> >
> > The NIST website gives an email address of:  nist.ra...@boulder.nist.gov
>    Does anyone have other addresses
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Re: [IRCA] 1120 KMOX

[Kraig]

Barry,
 Going to kmox.radio.com?

 What are you seeing or not seeing?

73,

Kraig

On 9/22/2018 3:16 PM, Barry Davies via IRCA wrote:

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Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

[R. Colin Newell]

Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA -

> On Sep 22, 2018, at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hutton  wrote:
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> From the analog world, Colin speculates that SDR users lose DX time due to 
> "Windoze" etc.
> 

Based on the amount of Microsoft Windows support I’ve provided over the years 
to bewildered DXERS I’d say this is a fact. 


> 
> I've not lost a minute of DX with SDR's in over a decade of SDR usage.

Of course you haven’t. :-) 


> 
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> I'm sure endless "debate" (of that is the word) can occur, but I'm content to 
> use actual results as a measurement.

As do I Chuck. As do I. 

73 
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Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

[Chuck Hutton]

>From the analog world, Colin speculates that SDR users lose DX time due to 
>"Windoze" etc.


I've not lost a minute of DX with SDR's in over a decade of SDR usage.


I'm sure endless "debate" (of that is the word) can occur, but I'm content to 
use actual results as a measurement.


Chuck



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I love my analog DXING lifestyle...
In decades of radio listening, I’ve yet to reboot a radio, upgrade the memory 
in the radio, install WINDOZE on the radio, complain that the screen died on 
the radio, lose all my “settings” on the radio, nor have my radios ever been 
victimized by malware, ransomware or viruses...

Recording is for people who want to binge watch Game of Thrones...

Give me knobs, dials, switches, wires, tubes and transistors any day of the 
week.

Harrumph I say! Harrumph!

Colin Newell - Tongue in cheek - B.C. CANADA _ _ ... ... _ _

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[IRCA] 1120 KMOX

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Tried to look at the KMOX website. All I got was my screen grab. Is there a 
story to this? Ideas on getting round it?



Best wishes
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Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

[R. Colin Newell]

I love my analog DXING lifestyle...
In decades of radio listening, I’ve yet to reboot a radio, upgrade the memory 
in the radio, install WINDOZE on the radio, complain that the screen died on 
the radio, lose all my “settings” on the radio, nor have my radios ever been 
victimized by malware, ransomware or viruses... 

Recording is for people who want to binge watch Game of Thrones...

Give me knobs, dials, switches, wires, tubes and transistors any day of the 
week. 

Harrumph I say! Harrumph! 

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Re: [IRCA] [HCDX] WWV: Are they testing us?

[R. Colin Newell]

Good point! Speak up everyone! 

Colin Newell - Victoria - B.C. CANADA -

> On Sep 22, 2018, at 11:40 AM, Arthur Delibert  wrote:
> 
> WWV has been broadcasting an outdated propagation report for several days, 
> giving the solar flux as of September 18 and K Index as of 1200 on September 
> 19.  THIS MAY BE A TEST TO SEE IF ANYONE IS LISTENING, and if not, they’ll 
> shut it down.
> 
> We’ve had similar tests from other SW services prior to shutting down – for 
> example, Radio Australia a couple years ago went off the air briefly, 
> allegedly for xmtr maintenance; the response from listeners wasn’t strong 
> enough, and they used that as evidence to shut down permanently.
> 
> The NIST website gives an email address of:  
> nist.ra...@boulder.nist.gov   Does anyone 
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Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

[Guy Atkins]

My thoughts: what Chuck describes is basically what I do for reviewing SDR
recordings, with whatever software I might be using. Clicking carefully on
the playback bar can also advance the recording in increments of your
choice.

Skipping ahead in one-minute increments makes the top-of-the-hour range
we're generally most interested in go by rather quickly during review. As
Chuck described it only takes your brain a second or two to recognize if
there's any content worth pursuing. If not, then a quick click
fast-forwards you to the next minute for a second or two auditory check.
It's kind of the "30,000 ft. view" of the DX, and if anything seems
interesting you can get more granular in your review & playback...that's
the beauty of SDR because nothing is lost.

What I'm listening for is audio rising up to intelligibility (in the case
of threshold signals that may be worthwhile to follow), or in the case of
signals with decent intelligibility already I'm listening for content clues
that there may be an ID, advertisement, or other helpful content in the
"vicinity" of that moment I'm reviewing. If so, then I dive in for a
careful listen.

This minute-by-minute quick checking method is a great way to get past
music so you can get to an announcer's voice.

The same approach works for bottom-of-the-hour and other in-between times
when an ID *might* be heard. However I save these less productive time
frames for after I've exhausted top-of-the-hour possibilities. As Chuck
said, bad or normal nights are obvious and you don't need to waste your
time. Were conditions shown to be great on your recording? Then you may
have a gold mine waiting for you to dig through...that's the fun of
capturing the entire band with an SDR. DXing "live" with a traditional
receiver or an Ultralight is another kind of fun, too. It's all radio, and
all good  :^)

Guy



On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 10:21 AM, Chuck Hutton  wrote:

> Nick:
>
>
> If you listen to  a second or two every minute or two, wouldn't you agree
> the needed time is a percenrt or two of what it was?
>
> And many channels won't need attention at all.
>
> And bad or normal nights quickly become obvious and the files don't need
> to be studied.
>
>
> Nothing earth shattering here.
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
>
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Re: [IRCA] New Edition of Mexican Log

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Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

[Chuck Hutton]

Nick:


If you listen to  a second or two every minute or two, wouldn't you agree the 
needed time is a percenrt or two of what it was?

And many channels won't need attention at all.

And bad or normal nights quickly become obvious and the files don't need to be 
studied.


Nothing earth shattering here.


Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Nick Hall-Patch 

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 10:12 AM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

If I'm using my ears, should I then be listening to one channel at a
time Chuck?   That seems a very lengthy way to check the morning's
files. Less expensive than buying a hundred R8's and pulsing through
audio recordings certainly.Perhaps I am being more obtuse than usual.

Nick



At 16:57 2018-09-22, Chuck Hutton wrote:
>Nick -
>
>
>I'm referring to the simple method of clicking on the Perseus
>playback bar to advance about a minute, then playback a few seconds
>and use your ears to tell you if anything is there.
>
>
>No science needed.
>
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>From: IRCA  on behalf of Nick
>Hall-Patch 
>Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:44 AM
>To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>Subject: Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?
>
>As this thread was about methods of TP DXing, Chuck, could you please
>explain further the "advance a Perseus file a minute at a time"   Are
>you talking about getting the results from the 1024 point full band
>display?   If so, perhaps I need to talk to your optometrist, as I
>sure can't pick out carriers within 1 or 2 kHz on that display very
>easily.  If I expand the display out to just a portion of the MW
>band, yes, even my old eyes can do it, but then doesn't it take a
>long time to pick through the recording of the entire band?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Nick
>
>
>At 02:02 2018-09-21, Chuck Hutton wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >As for the Fish Barrel: what's the value to SDR owners? I'm not seeing it.
> >
> >
> >For doing checks to see if a channel is strong enough to bother
> >listening to, I'd suggest the Data File Analyzer in SDR Console.
> >That;s it's job. But I don't think that is much of a problem.
> >Advancing a perseus file playback a minute or so at a time will
> >catch most anything.
> >
> >
> >
> >Chuck
> >
> >
> >
> >From: IRCA  on behalf of Bruce
> >Portzer 
> >Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:19 PM
> >To: ken brookner; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
> >Subject: Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?
> >
> >Ken
> >
> >My morning listening is usually done by programming the SDR to record
> >the AM band from about an hour before to a half hour after local sunrise
> >(sometimes longer).  I can then either listen in real time or play back
> >the recording later in the day   The main advantages of this approach:
> >- I don't miss anything if I oversleep or have to leave before the DX
> >fades out (the latter is less relevant now that I'm retired)
> >- If conditions are rotten, I haven't wasted much time
> >- I can listen at my own speed and find the stations that fade up for
> >only a short amount of time
> >- I can check many frequencies for IDs at the top of the hour
> >- I can multitask while the recording is being made and not worry about
> >missing an ID because I was only half-listening while exercising,
> >reading the news, or eating breakfast
> >
> >I keep forgetting to check the fish barrel in the morning, but I agree
> >it's a valuable tool.  That's a habit I should start.
> >
> >When I play back the files, I usually setup the SDR software to display
> >200-300 kHz (such as 531-830 , 830-1030, etc) worth of spectrum and then
> >look for 9 kHz carriers on the display.  I'll check the signals one at a
> >time and gradually move through the files in chronological order until
> >the DX fades out or the recording ends.  Then I move onto the next chunk
> >of spectrum and repeat the process.  Eventually I reach then end of the
> >AM band and can then get on with my life again.  All the while, I'm
> >jotting my notes into an email which is eventually cleaned up and sent.
> >
> >Bruce
> >
> >On 9/20/2018 13:09, ken brookner wrote:
> > > Hi Everybody...
> > >
> > > I enjoy reading everyone's logs during the week and I've been curious
> > > about what your routine is...   Are you up and doing this real time,
> > > SDR catches?
> > >
> > > Are you scanning up the band from the bottom or tuning the splits? How
> > > much time are you spending?
> > >
> > > When I was a kid, I used to turn my days and nights around during the
> > > summer school breaks so I could tune for stations during darkness.
> > > Not possible for me now and I don't expect anyone does that here,
> > > though maybe you guys are very early risers..
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > > Ken
> > > Lummi Island, WA
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Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

[Nick Hall-Patch]

If I'm using my ears, should I then be listening to one channel at a 
time Chuck?   That seems a very lengthy way to check the morning's 
files. Less expensive than buying a hundred R8's and pulsing through 
audio recordings certainly.Perhaps I am being more obtuse than usual


Nick



At 16:57 2018-09-22, Chuck Hutton wrote:

Nick -


I'm referring to the simple method of clicking on the Perseus 
playback bar to advance about a minute, then playback a few seconds 
and use your ears to tell you if anything is there.



No science needed.


Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Nick 
Hall-Patch 

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:44 AM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

As this thread was about methods of TP DXing, Chuck, could you please
explain further the "advance a Perseus file a minute at a time"   Are
you talking about getting the results from the 1024 point full band
display?   If so, perhaps I need to talk to your optometrist, as I
sure can't pick out carriers within 1 or 2 kHz on that display very
easily.  If I expand the display out to just a portion of the MW
band, yes, even my old eyes can do it, but then doesn't it take a
long time to pick through the recording of the entire band?

Thanks.

Nick


At 02:02 2018-09-21, Chuck Hutton wrote:
>
>
>
>As for the Fish Barrel: what's the value to SDR owners? I'm not seeing it.
>
>
>For doing checks to see if a channel is strong enough to bother
>listening to, I'd suggest the Data File Analyzer in SDR Console.
>That;s it's job. But I don't think that is much of a problem.
>Advancing a perseus file playback a minute or so at a time will
>catch most anything.
>
>
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>From: IRCA  on behalf of Bruce
>Portzer 
>Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:19 PM
>To: ken brookner; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>Subject: Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?
>
>Ken
>
>My morning listening is usually done by programming the SDR to record
>the AM band from about an hour before to a half hour after local sunrise
>(sometimes longer).  I can then either listen in real time or play back
>the recording later in the day   The main advantages of this approach:
>- I don't miss anything if I oversleep or have to leave before the DX
>fades out (the latter is less relevant now that I'm retired)
>- If conditions are rotten, I haven't wasted much time
>- I can listen at my own speed and find the stations that fade up for
>only a short amount of time
>- I can check many frequencies for IDs at the top of the hour
>- I can multitask while the recording is being made and not worry about
>missing an ID because I was only half-listening while exercising,
>reading the news, or eating breakfast
>
>I keep forgetting to check the fish barrel in the morning, but I agree
>it's a valuable tool.  That's a habit I should start.
>
>When I play back the files, I usually setup the SDR software to display
>200-300 kHz (such as 531-830 , 830-1030, etc) worth of spectrum and then
>look for 9 kHz carriers on the display.  I'll check the signals one at a
>time and gradually move through the files in chronological order until
>the DX fades out or the recording ends.  Then I move onto the next chunk
>of spectrum and repeat the process.  Eventually I reach then end of the
>AM band and can then get on with my life again.  All the while, I'm
>jotting my notes into an email which is eventually cleaned up and sent.
>
>Bruce
>
>On 9/20/2018 13:09, ken brookner wrote:
> > Hi Everybody...
> >
> > I enjoy reading everyone's logs during the week and I've been curious
> > about what your routine is...   Are you up and doing this real time,
> > SDR catches?
> >
> > Are you scanning up the band from the bottom or tuning the splits? How
> > much time are you spending?
> >
> > When I was a kid, I used to turn my days and nights around during the
> > summer school breaks so I could tune for stations during darkness.
> > Not possible for me now and I don't expect anyone does that here,
> > though maybe you guys are very early risers..
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Ken
> > Lummi Island, WA
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Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

[Chuck Hutton]

Nick -


I'm referring to the simple method of clicking on the Perseus playback bar to 
advance about a minute, then playback a few seconds and use your ears to tell 
you if anything is there.


No science needed.


Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Nick Hall-Patch 

Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2018 9:44 AM
To: Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

As this thread was about methods of TP DXing, Chuck, could you please
explain further the "advance a Perseus file a minute at a time"   Are
you talking about getting the results from the 1024 point full band
display?   If so, perhaps I need to talk to your optometrist, as I
sure can't pick out carriers within 1 or 2 kHz on that display very
easily.  If I expand the display out to just a portion of the MW
band, yes, even my old eyes can do it, but then doesn't it take a
long time to pick through the recording of the entire band?

Thanks.

Nick


At 02:02 2018-09-21, Chuck Hutton wrote:
>
>
>
>As for the Fish Barrel: what's the value to SDR owners? I'm not seeing it.
>
>
>For doing checks to see if a channel is strong enough to bother
>listening to, I'd suggest the Data File Analyzer in SDR Console.
>That;s it's job. But I don't think that is much of a problem.
>Advancing a perseus file playback a minute or so at a time will
>catch most anything.
>
>
>
>Chuck
>
>
>
>From: IRCA  on behalf of Bruce
>Portzer 
>Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:19 PM
>To: ken brookner; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
>Subject: Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?
>
>Ken
>
>My morning listening is usually done by programming the SDR to record
>the AM band from about an hour before to a half hour after local sunrise
>(sometimes longer).  I can then either listen in real time or play back
>the recording later in the day   The main advantages of this approach:
>- I don't miss anything if I oversleep or have to leave before the DX
>fades out (the latter is less relevant now that I'm retired)
>- If conditions are rotten, I haven't wasted much time
>- I can listen at my own speed and find the stations that fade up for
>only a short amount of time
>- I can check many frequencies for IDs at the top of the hour
>- I can multitask while the recording is being made and not worry about
>missing an ID because I was only half-listening while exercising,
>reading the news, or eating breakfast
>
>I keep forgetting to check the fish barrel in the morning, but I agree
>it's a valuable tool.  That's a habit I should start.
>
>When I play back the files, I usually setup the SDR software to display
>200-300 kHz (such as 531-830 , 830-1030, etc) worth of spectrum and then
>look for 9 kHz carriers on the display.  I'll check the signals one at a
>time and gradually move through the files in chronological order until
>the DX fades out or the recording ends.  Then I move onto the next chunk
>of spectrum and repeat the process.  Eventually I reach then end of the
>AM band and can then get on with my life again.  All the while, I'm
>jotting my notes into an email which is eventually cleaned up and sent.
>
>Bruce
>
>On 9/20/2018 13:09, ken brookner wrote:
> > Hi Everybody...
> >
> > I enjoy reading everyone's logs during the week and I've been curious
> > about what your routine is...   Are you up and doing this real time,
> > SDR catches?
> >
> > Are you scanning up the band from the bottom or tuning the splits? How
> > much time are you spending?
> >
> > When I was a kid, I used to turn my days and nights around during the
> > summer school breaks so I could tune for stations during darkness.
> > Not possible for me now and I don't expect anyone does that here,
> > though maybe you guys are very early risers..
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Ken
> > Lummi Island, WA
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Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

[Nick Hall-Patch]

As this thread was about methods of TP DXing, Chuck, could you please 
explain further the "advance a Perseus file a minute at a time"   Are 
you talking about getting the results from the 1024 point full band 
display?   If so, perhaps I need to talk to your optometrist, as I 
sure can't pick out carriers within 1 or 2 kHz on that display very 
easily.  If I expand the display out to just a portion of the MW 
band, yes, even my old eyes can do it, but then doesn't it take a 
long time to pick through the recording of the entire band?


Thanks.

Nick


At 02:02 2018-09-21, Chuck Hutton wrote:




As for the Fish Barrel: what's the value to SDR owners? I'm not seeing it.


For doing checks to see if a channel is strong enough to bother 
listening to, I'd suggest the Data File Analyzer in SDR Console. 
That;s it's job. But I don't think that is much of a problem. 
Advancing a perseus file playback a minute or so at a time will 
catch most anything.




Chuck



From: IRCA  on behalf of Bruce 
Portzer 

Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 4:19 PM
To: ken brookner; Mailing list for the International Radio Club of America
Subject: Re: [IRCA] Morning TP Methodology?

Ken

My morning listening is usually done by programming the SDR to record
the AM band from about an hour before to a half hour after local sunrise
(sometimes longer).  I can then either listen in real time or play back
the recording later in the day   The main advantages of this approach:
- I don't miss anything if I oversleep or have to leave before the DX
fades out (the latter is less relevant now that I'm retired)
- If conditions are rotten, I haven't wasted much time
- I can listen at my own speed and find the stations that fade up for
only a short amount of time
- I can check many frequencies for IDs at the top of the hour
- I can multitask while the recording is being made and not worry about
missing an ID because I was only half-listening while exercising,
reading the news, or eating breakfast

I keep forgetting to check the fish barrel in the morning, but I agree
it's a valuable tool.  That's a habit I should start.

When I play back the files, I usually setup the SDR software to display
200-300 kHz (such as 531-830 , 830-1030, etc) worth of spectrum and then
look for 9 kHz carriers on the display.  I'll check the signals one at a
time and gradually move through the files in chronological order until
the DX fades out or the recording ends.  Then I move onto the next chunk
of spectrum and repeat the process.  Eventually I reach then end of the
AM band and can then get on with my life again.  All the while, I'm
jotting my notes into an email which is eventually cleaned up and sent.

Bruce

On 9/20/2018 13:09, ken brookner wrote:
> Hi Everybody...
>
> I enjoy reading everyone's logs during the week and I've been curious
> about what your routine is...   Are you up and doing this real time,
> SDR catches?
>
> Are you scanning up the band from the bottom or tuning the splits? How
> much time are you spending?
>
> When I was a kid, I used to turn my days and nights around during the
> summer school breaks so I could tune for stations during darkness.
> Not possible for me now and I don't expect anyone does that here,
> though maybe you guys are very early risers..
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ken
> Lummi Island, WA
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