Bismillah [IslamCity] Re: Boycott Israel [IslamCity] Somalia Situation Deserves UN attention--editorial Asia Post, Dhaka,8.9.07
Salam On Eid Fitri to all. I have one interesting topic which made ocuupied for some times. I have heard many times even by Imams and it goes like this:"Anyone who has in his heart an atom of Iman, though they would be in Hell, but in the end, Alah would pardon them for that one cell of Iman in yheir hearts". I do think that in our modern world any man be they Europeans or Africans, knpwa in their minds who is Allah and who is Prophet Muhammed s.a.w. As we live in the 21st. Century, we have all the communications at our fingertips for our knowledge and good wills of informal educationns. Salam from me and thank you. >From your brother in Islam --- "S A Hannan"@yahoo.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > Somalia Situation Deserves UN attention > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Al-Jazeerah has reported that > Somali opposition figures, including leaders from > the Islamic Courts Union, have opened a 10-day > congress in Eritrea to call for the withdrawal of > Ethiopian troops from Somalia. About 400 delegates > gathered for the meeting on Thursday, exactly a week > after the end of a clan reconciliation conference in > Mogadishu, the Somali capital. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sheikh Hassan Aweys, leader of the > Islamic Courts, which briefly controlled most of > Somalia before being ousted by Ethiopian-backed > government forces, was present at the gathering. > Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed, another of the > movement's leaders, was also present. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmed said the meeting was > "to establish a political organisation that > liberates the country and ends the violence and > chaotic situation"."We call upon Ethiopia to > unconditionally withdraw its troops from Somalia and > stop its imperialistic adventure on our territory," > he said.He warned that a prolonged conflict in > Somalia would eventually spill over into > neighbouring countries."We remind her [Ethiopia] > that the longer the conflict goes on, the higher the > risk it will engulf the whole region," he said."The > United States' foreign policy towards Somalia has > been strangely confrontational. We call upon the > United States to play a more positive role in the > Somali conflict." > > > > > > The US has backed Ethiopia's > military operations in Somalia and toughened its > stance towards Eritrea, Ethiopia's neighbour and > long-time enemy, which Ethiopia says has been arming > groups in Somalia and elsewhere in the region.The > Islamic Courts had boycotted the earlier clan > reconciliation conference in Mogadishu, arguing that > any peace efforts should take place only after an > Ethiopian withdrawal. > > > > .We feel that the the UN and > independent press have all forgotten the tragic > Somalia issue.Somalia has faced so much suffering, > first because of military take-over, then by US and > Ethiopian intervention, now again by Ethiopian > military intervention.US hardly plays a positive > role any where unless their puppets are involved.We > do not see any end to the problem but still we > request the UN to take steps in this regard. > > > > > > > > > > Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Boycott Israel [IslamCity] Re: Why Pork is Haram
Assalmualaikum, I am writing for interesting issue of the reason why pork is completely forbidden for Muslims. There are many Hadiths and articles by prestigious Ulamas of yhe past and present.And too numerous to write here. And scientifically too pork is completely uncomsumable in the sciectific perspective. Among other thing as according to my research, one source of interest that I have gathere is this: During the time of Prophet Musa a.s.(Moses) many followers of the tribe of Bani Israel had forsake their belief not to follow Prophet Musa a.s. They were then to swine by Allah s.w.t. for tgheir disobediences. Recently I have red articles in a local newspaper regarding the scientific fimdings that say tissues and organs of swine are able to be used for human organs etc. because they have the same biologocal properties and scientific used to replace human organs. Franlky speaking they have the same biological properties.This is surprising to many of us Muslims.Firstly because it is related to the story of Prophet Musa a.s. and Bani Israel that we all know about. So if you have other valuable articles and answers please tell more. Salam from me, Your brother in Islam. Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
Re: Boycott Israel [IslamCity] Exhortation for the Remembrance of Allah
Assalamu alikum. Please do read many of my articles abour various subjects of Islam. InshaAllah I hope they wouild give some lights of study on Islam to many Muslims and non Muslims.My said webside is at: http://www.geocities.com/alj2001my/Articles.html Happy reading! Salam from me to all. Your brother in Islam. Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/
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Assalmu alaikum, Please do read my Islamic article of interest to everyone and inshaAllah it would bring out the truth as such as in my opinion is correct. Errors are my own and do send in your reply back to this essay. Sincerely, Your brother in Islam. .. Salam to all readers... The Muslim world is divided into 57 nations or so as given by the O.I.C.(About the O.I.C--From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. The flag of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC)The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is an inter-governmental organization with a Permanent Delegation to the United Nations. It groups 57 mostly Islamic nations in the Middle East, North and West Africa, Central Asia, Southeast Asia, and the Indian subcontinent, (with the exceptions of Albania, Guyana, and Surinam). The OIC is dedicated to serving the interests of the world's estimated 1.4 billion Muslims. Combined GDP of OIC is 5,505,810 millions dollars.) And in this 57 Muslim Nations is the component and basis of the Modern Kalifiya Islamiah which in accord to our modern civilization in 15 Islamic Hijiyah and meaning.This is only my own opinion... During the Islamic Dinasty of previous genrations namely starting with the Ummayah, then the Abbasiyah and the Fathimiah and lastly The Osamniyah were the very foundation that evolve into our modern Islamic Nations It is from here the creation of the Islamic Nations with all the different languages, cultures, religious ethics and differing Islamic school of Thoughts in our very own 57 Muslim Nations with the total population of well over a billion Mulsims inhabitants is truly unique.The total estimate of world population is well over 3 billion. The ahli kitab namely the Christians and the Jews are the second largest inhabitants of the believers on Monotheist, or One God. The Ahli Kitab is not Gog and Magog as contrary to some who believe them to be. The Muslims have as of now 3 differing School of thoughts and living in the 57 Muslim nations. The largest sects or School of Thought are the Ahli Sunnah from the 4 madhhabs, then the Wahbbiyahs then the Syiah. Each Muslim Nations has their very own seat of government, the Ulil Amri of their country and representing as a true Kahlifah of their own Nations. This is a single modern Islamic civilization that is unique, with all its veritable varities, cultures, languages etc.It is not such never been seen before nor was it like that of the four previous Khaliphates. In surah alAnbiya is written as: This ummah is one Ummah(Inna hazihi Ummatan wahidatan...etc.) It clearly shows the uniqeness that the Muslim nations in our modern world represent the last of the Khalifiyah Islam in this 15th. Hijriyah. The Osmaniyah Dinasty represent the last of the vast areas of where Muslims are living today, and the Kingdom is South east asia such as in the ASEAN Countries constitute the 57 nations as mention by the OIC. In the field of brotherliness, we as Muslims have garnered much to our own brotherhoodness (Hablum mina LLah, wa hablum minas Nas) and in the connection with the Ahli Kitab and others came the words Hablu minas Nas. In my opinion this is the actual Khlifiyah Islam that represent the continuation of the previous Khalifiyah of the Osmaniyah etc.. is and in actual facts a differing nations of the 57 Muslims Countries of today and as it is with all the differing unique cultures, politics and economy, way of lives and languagesIt is in my opinion is what is the present state of Khalifiyah in a sense a unique state, a modern well adjusted and balanced Muslims Population who are all out for Peace and Harmony rathe then the other way round. To seek for peace is better then bloodshed, to forge for friendships is better then to make enemies. Allah Knows The Best. Article written below is by the Honorable Harun Yahya in harunyahya.com that I extracted, should be read by readers as it would give us light of truth:"According To The Koran, Muslims, Jews And Christians Should Live In Friendship It is evident there are ample grounds for an alliance between the "People of the Book" and Muslims. This is also very evident in the Koran. In the relevant verses of the Koran, there is a significant difference between the People of the Book and the idolaters. This is especially emphasized in the area of social life. For example, it is said concerning the idolaters: "(they) are unclean, so after this year they should not come near the Masjid al-Haram (Kaaba)." (Surat at-Tawba: 28) Idolaters are people who obey no divine law, have no moral precepts and who are capable of committing every kind of degrading and perverse action without hesitation. But while they basically rely on God's revelation, the People of the Book have moral precepts and know what is lawful and what is not. For this reason, if one of the People of the Book cooks some food, it is lawful for Muslims to eat it. I
Re: [IslamCity] On Jesus Second Coming.
On Jesus second coming I could not but to think of the global impact if the truth are to be presented to the Muslims and Christians and the Jews from the Harun Yahya article. Hopefully what was in the article are in correct order. Please read below or refer to the subject on the Second Coming of Jesus a.s. in the harunyahya.com: "When examined from this perspective, we find many verses indicating a period when Islam's morality will pervade worldwide. (For further information on this subject, please refer to Harun Yahya, The End Times and the Mahdi, Khatoons, 2003) Apart from the signs related in the verses, there are also signs related to their dates. These dates are determined by various calculation methods, the foremost of which is the numeration of verses by alphabetical Arabic letters (abjad). This method is very ancient and predates the Qur'anic revelation. Since ancient times, all events have been recorded in letters with numerical values. These dates are the sum of each letter employed while recording that event. Some Islamic scholars of the past estimated the date of many future events through this method. Today, when looking at some Qur'anic verses, we see that the meaning conveyed match with certain dates. When we see that those events actually occurred on the calculated dates, we understand that the verses in question may conceal a hidden meaning about that event. (God knows best.) In the next pages, we will provide abjad of the related part of some verses. When we look at their meanings, we will recognize that they hold significant signs relating to certain dates. There is not one of the People of the Book who will not believe in him before he dies; and on the Day of Rising, he will be a witness against them. (Surat an-Nisa', 4:159) "There is not one of the People of the Book who will not believe in him before he dies" Hijri: 1439 Gregorian: 2017 The above verse relates that before Prophet Jesus' (pbuh) death, all of the People of the Book will believe in him. At the beginning of the book, we discussed that this event will take place in the End Times, when Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will return to Earth. The abjad value of the particular part of the verse above gives the date 2017. It is possible that this numerical value gives the date of Prophet Jesus' (pbuh) return or the time when he will be present on Earth. (God knows best.) Similarly, the abjad values below probably give the dates when Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will be on Earth. He [Jesus] is a Sign of the Hour. Have no doubt about it. But follow me. This is a straight path. (Surat az-Zukhruf, 43:61) "He [Prophet Jesus (pbuh)] is a Sign of the Hour. Have no doubt about it." Hijri: 1440 Gregorian: 2018 (end) ... This remind me to have an opinion that whatever were to be in the future is from Allah alone ...and that Allah has set that aside for everyone who would survive in the later days would beneficially meeting with Jesus orso to speak. Allah has given everything in this world for the Muslims and especially the non-Muslims are better given the biggest pie of the cakethe worldly wealth except one final course...Hidayatul Islam. As mention in the above surah that all the Ahli Kitab will believe in him, Jesus when he return in later days, at end of timesand that means if we and they survive till 2017 or 2018 we would all came tobe blessed by Allah and meet him then...insha-Allah. This also means that Allah wish for us to live in peace and harmony with the Ahli Kitab, the Jews and The Christians because they in turn will be Muslims too at the time Jesus will be on earth in 2007 whish is just 13 to 14 years awy from 2004, now. And not to harm them in anyway.Allah Knows The Best. Initially the whole of the miracles that was performed and granted by Allah to Nabi Isa a.s. (JESUS) was to refute to the people of Jerusalem and especially to the Priests then were basically to refute their deniance that Jesus was the Prophet. Secondly to refute the whole course of disbelievers that all mankind are born free of any sinsthat is they do not carry the weight of their passed lives (sins) etcthat they were born defectives ( the blind, the deaf, the lepers) that all the Mukhzizat of Nabi Isa a.s.(JESUS) was the proof of it all. All that which did happened will occured and be again in the future context when Nabi Isa a.s. will return nthe second time to earth...and to perform the same or more of miracles that the disbelievers could not deny the truth, as such that happened thousand of years ago. Basically the year of 2017 to 2018 could be the balance and those who survive now, and those children that we know could be the one to meet him, on Jesus second coming to earth. So be kind to them especially to the Ahli Kitabthe Yahudiah and the Nasharah. In harunyahya.com he(Harun Yahya) wrote: "There is not one of the People of the Book
[IslamCity] Re: NewMuslims(MC) On Jesus Second Coming.
On Jesus second coming I could not but to think of the global impact if the truth are to be presented to the Muslims and Christians and the Jews from the Harun Yahya article. Hopefully what was in the article are in correct order. Please read below or refer to the subject on the Second Coming of Jesus a.s. in the harunyahya.com: "When examined from this perspective, we find many verses indicating a period when Islam's morality will pervade worldwide. (For further information on this subject, please refer to Harun Yahya, The End Times and the Mahdi, Khatoons, 2003) Apart from the signs related in the verses, there are also signs related to their dates. These dates are determined by various calculation methods, the foremost of which is the numeration of verses by alphabetical Arabic letters (abjad). This method is very ancient and predates the Qur'anic revelation. Since ancient times, all events have been recorded in letters with numerical values. These dates are the sum of each letter employed while recording that event. Some Islamic scholars of the past estimated the date of many future events through this method. Today, when looking at some Qur'anic verses, we see that the meaning conveyed match with certain dates. When we see that those events actually occurred on the calculated dates, we understand that the verses in question may conceal a hidden meaning about that event. (God knows best.) In the next pages, we will provide abjad of the related part of some verses. When we look at their meanings, we will recognize that they hold significant signs relating to certain dates. There is not one of the People of the Book who will not believe in him before he dies; and on the Day of Rising, he will be a witness against them. (Surat an-Nisa', 4:159) "There is not one of the People of the Book who will not believe in him before he dies" Hijri: 1439 Gregorian: 2017 The above verse relates that before Prophet Jesus' (pbuh) death, all of the People of the Book will believe in him. At the beginning of the book, we discussed that this event will take place in the End Times, when Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will return to Earth. The abjad value of the particular part of the verse above gives the date 2017. It is possible that this numerical value gives the date of Prophet Jesus' (pbuh) return or the time when he will be present on Earth. (God knows best.) Similarly, the abjad values below probably give the dates when Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will be on Earth. He [Jesus] is a Sign of the Hour. Have no doubt about it. But follow me. This is a straight path. (Surat az-Zukhruf, 43:61) "He [Prophet Jesus (pbuh)] is a Sign of the Hour. Have no doubt about it." Hijri: 1440 Gregorian: 2018 (end) .. This remind me to have an opinion that whatever were to be in the future is from Allah alone ...and that Allah has set that aside for everyone who would survive in the later days would beneficially meeting with Jesus orso to speak. Allah has given everything in this world for the Muslims and especially the non-Muslims are better given the biggest pie of the cakethe worldly wealth except one final course...Hidayatul Islam. As mention in the above surah that all the Ahli Kitab will believe in him, Jesus when he return in later days, at end of timesand that means if we and they survive till 2017 or 2018 we would all came tobe blessed by Allah and meet him then...insha-Allah. This also means that Allah wish for us to live in peace and harmony with the Ahli Kitab, the Jews and The Christians because they in turn will be Muslims too at the time Jesus will be on earth in 2007 whish is just 13 to 14 years awy from 2004, now. And not to harm them in anyway.Allah Knows The Best. Initially the whole of the miracles that was performed and granted by Allah to Nabi Isa a.s. (JESUS) was to refute to the people of Jerusalem and especially to the Priests then were basically to refute their deniance that Jesus was the Prophet. Secondly to refute the whole course of disbelievers that all mankind are born free of any sinsthat is they do not carry the weight of their passed lives (sins) etcthat they were born defectives ( the blind, the deaf, the lepers) that all the Mukhzizat of Nabi Isa a.s.(JESUS) was the proof of it all. All that which did happened will occured and be again in the future context when Nabi Isa a.s. will return nthe second time to earth...and to perform the same or more of miracles that the disbelievers could not deny the truth, as such that happened thousand of years ago. Wallahu aqlam. Allah knows the best Basically the year of 2017 to 2018 could be the balance and those who survive now, and those children that we know could be the one to meet him, on Jesus second coming to earth. So be kind to them especially to the Ahli Kitabthe Yahudiah and the
Re: [IslamCity] Pro-hijab campaign in E.U.Parliament(http://www.islamonline.net/livedialogue/english/Browse.asp?hGuestID=rsT0F2)
Assalamu alaikum, I would like to ask permission to repront the article by sister Saza...I thhink she has the correct question and answer for the comments on HijabAs it is one questionable question to be passed and then perhaps she has the point or two for the Eu etc... Thanks and salam to all.Please do visit the Muslimah News and Views around the world that I have for everyone specially tailored for Muslimahs at this URL: http://www.geocities.com/alj51/muslimmahs.html Your brother in islam. --- Mohammed Irfanullah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Assalamalaikum there > i have already send earlier the hadees of prophet > saws and quran verses where it is clearlly mention > of hijab. in the below email the person who said to > cover only hair and neck that is not hijab hijab is > covering completely ok not just hairs and hands and > body > face is the first thing which makes attraction to > opposite sex and which could lead to further action > towards zina so woman must and its farz to cover > ful except eyes to see while walking for > road or way, if any one says to open face that is > allowed then show us hadees where our prophet SAWs > said to do so if not then dont interprete the > meaning of any hadees with your own words, Read > clearly there a Hadees of Aisha Raziallah anhuma, > during haj they use to put on them selves a peace of > cloth if some of non mahram comes in front of them > does it mean they only put on ther body or head it > means they covered full with hairs and face not only > just hairs and body ok. > > So if any one says that it is allowed to keep face > open then its his view not prophet saws views or > hadees > > Thanks and regards > Jazakallah khair. > > > sahannan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Session Details > Guest NameEman Elizabeth Penny, A revert > psychologist, and a member of Pro Hijab Committee > SubjectPro-Hijab Campaign in the EU Parliament: Why > & How? Date Tuesday,Apr 26 ,2005 Time Makkah > From... 04:00...To... 21:30 > GMT > From... 01:00...To...18:30 > NameHost- > ProfessionQuestion > Dear viewers, > > > The session has just started. You are invited to > join us with your questions. > > After the session, you could view the whole dialogue > in the recent sessions. > > Yours, > Islamonline Live Dialogue Editing Desk > > Nameshaza- United Kingdom > Professionstudent Question > How would EU play its role in ensuring hijab will > not be banned in Germany and France education > system? How do we make the European which claimed to > be similar in their culture and lifestyle to accept > Islam which totally does not belong to this > community? > > > Answer > Assalaam alaikum sister Shaza and thank you for your > detailed and important question > > First you ask how we aim to make the EU prevent the > hijab ban. > > Our answer is that we have to attempt to work > through the systems of government we have available. > > > The European Parliament has a role in monitoring > certain legislation and behaviors of its members. > This includes ensuring that countries comply with > European Legislation, such as the Human rights > legislation. > > As we know, the hijab ban in French schools, now > also spreading to other countries, is against such > legislation. We have therefore; with the support of > 5 MEPs put a written declaration the European > Parliament. If it is signed by 1/2 of the MEPs it > will have to go to the parliament and be voted on. > If this happens and it was to win the vote it would > become legislation in Europe. While we could not > ensure that all countries comply, it would send a > strong message to all countries, and the European > Parliament would have to ensure that ways were found > to help enforce it. > > With reference to Europe accepting Islam, you are > right; people in Europe do have different values. > However, if we stand up for our rights and beliefs, > and explain to them why we follow this it will > indeed make them think and influence their > understanding of Islam. This is surely an obligation > for Muslims in the west, as there is a lot of > misunderstandings. > > I hope that helps to answer your questions, for more > information please see our website: > > " target=_blank>www.prohijab.net. > > > JazakAllah khair. > > NameT- > ProfessionQuestion > Salaam > I was hoping you may be able to answer my questions > regarding this ban. I am studying this issue > intensively for my final year dissertation at > university. > Firstly, one of the reasons given for this ban is > the silly notion that Islam has oppressed women and > they have a lowly status. What is the overall status > of non-Muslim French women? Do they have equal > rights in France? > Secondly, what stance are all the political parties > in France taking on this ban? Are they all pro ban? > Thirdly, would you be able to recommend any books > that discuss this issue well? and finally, i hope > you don't
Re: [IslamCity] (Part2) Where did the Taurat and Injeel disappeared to ?
Part 2:Where did the Taurat and Injeel disappeared to? This is the second part of the same topicPlease do read on. I am refering back to the three Ahadith, this way we could give our minds a fresh review.And that at the same time I would bring forward the four elements of Nature namely water, earth, air and fire. In this way what we have as at this moment would be as clear as crystal. The three Ahadith: "The Mehdi will remove the Ark of the Covenant from Lake Tiberias. (Iqd al-Durar fi Akbar al-Imam al-Muntadhar, by Shaikh Jamaluddin Yusuf al-Damishqi, p. 51-a)" "The reason he will be known as the Mahdi is that he will show the way to a hidden thing. He will bring the Ark to light from a place called Antioch. (Suyuti, al-Hawi li'l Fatawa, II, 82)" "The reason he will be known as the Mahdi is that he will go to one of the mountains in Sham. From there he will unearth the (true) books of the Torah and bring forth evidence against the Jews. (Suyuti, al-Hawi li'l Fatawa, II, 81)" Refering back to the four elements that the ancient learned man would have the knowledge, that all things created by Allah has these four elements---water, earth, air and fire.But what we have here from the light of the three ahadith only refers to three places or three elements...and the fourth is absent.Presumably if my opinion is correct as at this moment I am saying here the three elements from the three Ahadith of the Holy Prophet Muhammed s.a.w. which form the basis of my opinion: First element: water, from the first reference of hadith as that of refering to Lake Tiberias Second Element: Earth(soil, land) which is from the second reference to the Hadith, the place called Antioch. Third element: Air, from the third hadith refering to 'one of the mountains in Sham' As the fourth element, FIRE, and that in my opinion it is out of the subject matter at this moment, since there is no hadith to refer to. Let's refer back to the first hadith to the place called Lake Tiberias:"The Mehdi will remove the Ark of the Covenant from Lake Tiberias. (Iqd al-Durar fi Akbar al-Imam al-Muntadhar, by Shaikh Jamaluddin Yusuf al-Damishqi, p. 51-a)" ---which ultimately refers to ELEMENT of WATER. Second Hadith: "The reason he will be known as the Mahdi is that he will show the way to a hidden thing. He will bring the Ark to light from a place called Antioch. (Suyuti, al-Hawi li'l Fatawa, II, 82)"giving us the reference to the SECOND ELEMENT of EARTH(soil,land). >From the third Hadith: "The reason he will be known as the Mahdi is that he will go to one of the mountains in Sham. From there he will unearth the (true) books of the Torah and bring forth evidence against the Jews. (Suyuti, al-Hawi li'l Fatawa, II, 81)" --reference to the THIRD ELEMENT of AIR. I have to reprint back the first two places as it would refresh our minds adding up to this research that we are doing, and I am happy to say that we are heading on the right direction.They are reprinted below for the first two places from the two AHadith. I wrote: "And in my opinion based on these three Ahadith so are there to be found the Ark of Covenent in these three places and not at one place only...and so it seems that there would be three Arks of Covenents." "It is said that The Mahdi will remove the Ark from lake Tiberias and we all know that the lake itself is too wide and deep for anyone to find at the bottom pit." "From the passage: "According to many Islamic scholars The Ark of the Covenant was a chest made of acacia wood and inlaid with gold, containing tablets on which the Ten Commandments were inscribed." "Here we have a total description of a sort that tells us the original chest looks like.It was made from Acacia Wood and probably as thick and as lasting as the forest itself... and that it was inlaid with goldThis is pure gold and and must be very thick and heavy and full to cover the Covenent from the disposal of time. It must be that Prophet Musa a.s. built it or built them, and later Prophet Daud a.s. owned it and lastly Prophet Sulaiman a.s. must have buried it at first in his Temple he built and later for safety reason and by the Grace and Sign by Allah, put it at the Lake Tiberias. It did sank down to the bottom, its weight must be too heavy from the gold covered case, and from the weight of the Acacia Wood.The other two Arks as stated by the Holy Prophet Muhammed s.a.w. are to be found at "one of the Mountain in Sham" and at "the place called Antioch." "And up to this very day for centuries the Ark in Lake Tiberias remained submerged at the bottom of the lake.This is my opinion only." In another paragraphs I wrote as follows: "And so we have to make this study very carefully. we must thus distiguished the near exact place whereby at least we could conclude the Ark could be. It is only my opinion and that if anyone has the better judgement to comment please tell. So we already know that the lake has a depth of over 175 feet, an area of 67