Re: [JAWS-Users] ie problem fixed

[Jorge Paez]

Oh thanks.
What do you use Chrome with though?


On May 31, 2011, at 8:02 AM, Bob wrote:

> The dom is the page structure underneath the web page that determins how it 
> is viewed. It normally mirrors your source code but can be updated by 
> javascript and other languages.
> 
> I dont think you can view it in ie without some form of developer add in, I 
> use chrome and magnification to inspect page elements!
> 
> 
> 
> On 31/05/2011 10:54, Jorge Paez wrote:
>> What do you mean the DOM?
>> And how would I view that in IE by the way?
>> 
>> 
>> On May 31, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Bob wrote:
>> 
>>>   Strange.
>>> The tags I mentioned are in the head of the document in the source but when 
>>> you inspect the DOM they appear in the body.
>>> 
>>> I think that something in your script must be moving them.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 30/05/2011 22:18, Jorge Paez wrote:
 Hi all:
 Thanks for your feedback,
 my site is now testing well on my end.
 Please feel free to drop any accessibility issues you may face with the 
 site in the future via this thread.
 
 Jorge
 
 
 
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 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Removing messages from the server?

[Janie Degenshein]

Oops
I forgot to mention that
Jaws 12
windows 7 and windows live mail



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-Original Message- 
From: Mike & Barbara in Arcadia

Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 7:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Removing messages from the server?

Hi Janie;

What email client / program & what operating system are you running?  Take
care.
Mike
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 From: Janie Degenshein

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 Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 3:57 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Removing messages from the server?


 Hello All
 Wondering if someone can direct me to the proper place to uncheck leave
 messages on the server?
 Where do I go for that?
 Thanks as I am running several computers and only want tonopen once so. .
.
 Keep Smiling,
 Janie Degenshein
 "Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have"
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Re: [JAWS-Users] speech to text

[tim]

I second that thought on Microsoft speech recognition.
A tip on training it when on tutorial or in other sessions. Put jaws 
in say all mode and you will hear just what it wants you to say.

I use it a lot with Microsoft flight sim x and It's your plane.
I even got a friend of mine with hand motion problems trying it out.
At 04:30 PM 5/31/2011, you wrote:
I am starting to have pain in my fingers and I would like to 
consider a speech to text software app that might work well with Win 
7 and Jaws 12. I don't know if Dragon Naturally Speaking works with 
Jaws or another App that does. Anybody have any experience with 
these programs?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Removing messages from the server?

[Mike & Barbara in Arcadia]

Hi Janie;

What email client / program & what operating system are you running?  Take 
care.
Mike
  - Original Message - 
  From: Janie Degenshein
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 3:57 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Removing messages from the server?


  Hello All
  Wondering if someone can direct me to the proper place to uncheck leave
  messages on the server?
  Where do I go for that?
  Thanks as I am running several computers and only want tonopen once so. . 
.
  Keep Smiling,
  Janie Degenshein
  "Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have"
  Access Tech Consultant
  Facilitator of ECHO
  (Eyes Closed Hearts Open)
  Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side
  www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html
  jdege...@comcast.net
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Removing messages from the server?

[kimsan]

I believe you would look under the advance tab where you type in the port
numbers.

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Janie
Degenshein
Sent: 31 May, 2011 03:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Removing messages from the server?

Hello All
Wondering if someone can direct me to the proper place to uncheck leave
messages on the server?
Where do I go for that?
Thanks as I am running several computers and only want tonopen once so. . .
Keep Smiling,
Janie Degenshein
"Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have"
Access Tech Consultant
Facilitator of ECHO
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Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side
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[JAWS-Users] Removing messages from the server?

[Janie Degenshein]

Hello All
Wondering if someone can direct me to the proper place to uncheck leave 
messages on the server?

Where do I go for that?
Thanks as I am running several computers and only want tonopen once so. . .
Keep Smiling,
Janie Degenshein
"Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have"
Access Tech Consultant
Facilitator of ECHO
(Eyes Closed Hearts Open)
Co-host of OTBS On The Bright Side
www.thruoureyes.org/brightside.html
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Re: [JAWS-Users] speech to text

[David]

Hello there;

Have you tried or considered, going to the ctrl-panel, and checking out,
speech recognition,

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lmorris1...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] speech to text

I am starting to have pain in my fingers and I would like to consider a
speech to text software app that might work well with Win 7 and Jaws 12. I
don't know if Dragon Naturally Speaking works with Jaws or another App that
does. Anybody have any experience with these programs? 
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[JAWS-Users] speech to text

[lmorris1953]

I am starting to have pain in my fingers and I would like to consider a speech 
to text software app that might work well with Win 7 and Jaws 12. I don't know 
if Dragon Naturally Speaking works with Jaws or another App that does. Anybody 
have any experience with these programs? 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] link url

[Flor Lynch]

Could you be a bit more specific?

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From: "kaveinthran" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:54 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] link url



hi,

Is there any way in jaws to first no the URL of a link before go into 
it?


thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Making content fit in Excel cells

[Brian Lee]

Hello Cris,

If you use CTRL+1, the dialog box for formatting cells will open.  Move to
the alignment page and there will be a checkbox to check for wrapping text
in the current cell or in the range of cells you have selected.  There is
also a checkbox for merging a range of cells.  Merging a range of cells on a
given row will result in more width for what you are typing.  Turning on the
wrapping of cells will cause new lines to start in the cell when the
specified horizontal space has been filled.  Also remember that you can use
Alt+enter key when writing in a cell to force new lines within that cell.
The keystroke can be helpful if you know the width of the cell and you don't
want text to break in the middle of a word.  If you use more than one line
of text in the cell either by using Alt+enter key or by using the wrap
choice, the row height increases accordingly.  Using JAWS key with F gives
you the cell information.  The last piece of info given is the dimension of
the row height.  The cell height will also change as needed if you use F2 to
edit a cell and use Alt+enter to put more than one line of text in the cell.


Take care.  

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

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[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of CrisMunoz54
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 9:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Making content fit in Excel cells

Hello list,

 

I'm trying to work with some Excel spread sheets such as for merchandise
quotes, purchase order and invoices where certain text like item
description, delivery address etc can be 1, 2, or x lines. Because of this,
I'm having trouble getting the text to properly fit in the cells as I then
have to convert it to a PDF file and the whole template will get thrown off.
Does anyone know or can they direct me where one can manually do this and
more importantly, figure out how to adjust the cell/row/column size
accordingly and have Jaws give me the necessary feedback so I know that it
looks right? I've tried the autofit option in the menus, but the feedback
from my sighted wife is that it just makes the cell text even smaller and
makes it harder to read if not impossible. Not all text is equal so it's not
like I can use a set peramitor. I've checked the Jaws Excel help settings
and it's more to do with with reading titles and cell coordinates. That's
fine, but not exactly what I'm looking for.

 

I'm using JFW 11. I do have the latest JFW 12 from this past May, but as
others have discussed on this and  more lists, my experiences with Jaws 12
were too problematic to continue using it. My Excel is the 2003 edition.

 

Any help or pointers would be appreciated.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Making content fit in Excel cells

[Potter, Kurtis]

Did you try having the text wrap in the cell?



Thanks,
Kurt

-Original Message-
From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of CrisMunoz54
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 11:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Making content fit in Excel cells

Hello list,

 

I'm trying to work with some Excel spread sheets such as for merchandise
quotes, purchase order and invoices where certain text like item
description, delivery address etc can be 1, 2, or x lines. Because of
this,
I'm having trouble getting the text to properly fit in the cells as I
then
have to convert it to a PDF file and the whole template will get thrown
off.
Does anyone know or can they direct me where one can manually do this
and
more importantly, figure out how to adjust the cell/row/column size
accordingly and have Jaws give me the necessary feedback so I know that
it
looks right? I've tried the autofit option in the menus, but the
feedback
from my sighted wife is that it just makes the cell text even smaller
and
makes it harder to read if not impossible. Not all text is equal so it's
not
like I can use a set peramitor. I've checked the Jaws Excel help
settings
and it's more to do with with reading titles and cell coordinates.
That's
fine, but not exactly what I'm looking for.

 

I'm using JFW 11. I do have the latest JFW 12 from this past May, but as
others have discussed on this and  more lists, my experiences with Jaws
12
were too problematic to continue using it. My Excel is the 2003 edition.

 

Any help or pointers would be appreciated.

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ie problem fixed

[Don Marang]

There is a way to read the DOM - Document Object Model, in IE 8.  
Pressing F12 opens the current page in the Development Tools window.  It 
is not 100% accessible and might not make much sense unless you read up 
on DOM first.



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Vinux Software Development Coordinator - vinuxproject.org 

There is just so much stuff in the world that, to me, is devoid of any 
real substance, value, and content that I just try to make sure that I 
am working on things that matter.

-- Dean Kamen

On 5/31/2011 8:02 AM, Bob wrote:
The dom is the page structure underneath the web page that determins 
how it is viewed. It normally mirrors your source code but can be 
updated by javascript and other languages.


I dont think you can view it in ie without some form of developer add 
in, I use chrome and magnification to inspect page elements!




On 31/05/2011 10:54, Jorge Paez wrote:

What do you mean the DOM?
And how would I view that in IE by the way?


On May 31, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Bob wrote:


   Strange.
The tags I mentioned are in the head of the document in the source 
but when you inspect the DOM they appear in the body.


I think that something in your script must be moving them.


On 30/05/2011 22:18, Jorge Paez wrote:

Hi all:
Thanks for your feedback,
my site is now testing well on my end.
Please feel free to drop any accessibility issues you may face with 
the site in the future via this thread.


Jorge



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Re: [JAWS-Users] ie problem fixed

[Bob]

The dom is the page structure underneath the web page that determins how 
it is viewed. It normally mirrors your source code but can be updated by 
javascript and other languages.


I dont think you can view it in ie without some form of developer add 
in, I use chrome and magnification to inspect page elements!




On 31/05/2011 10:54, Jorge Paez wrote:

What do you mean the DOM?
And how would I view that in IE by the way?


On May 31, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Bob wrote:


   Strange.
The tags I mentioned are in the head of the document in the source but when you 
inspect the DOM they appear in the body.

I think that something in your script must be moving them.


On 30/05/2011 22:18, Jorge Paez wrote:

Hi all:
Thanks for your feedback,
my site is now testing well on my end.
Please feel free to drop any accessibility issues you may face with the site in 
the future via this thread.

Jorge



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Re: [JAWS-Users] ie problem

[Eriko Matsukawa]

Hi, Jorge,

I am running Win 7 64 bit, IE8 and JAWS 11 JPN version (the latest
international version) here, and your site looks completely fine on
this end.

Just a feedback.

Take care.

Eri

On 5/31/11, Jorge Paez  wrote:
> Hi all:
> Just wondering,
> I'm using IE8 on a windows 64 bit machine running Win7 and JFW 12.
> Lately I've been coding a site which I've been programing completely on html
> 4.01 and javascript.
> It works well for sighted users, and runs smoothly with NVDA and Voice Over,
> but for some reason whenever I go to it with IE and JFW 12.58 all it says is
> "blank, blank, blank" as I try to move, and it won't allow me to bring up
> links or anything.
>
> Is this an IE issue or a JFW issue?
>
> Is it something to do with the software or the way I'm coding my sight that
> won't allow it to run with JFW?
> As far as I know my website stands within W3C standards so I don't know what
> could be wrong?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jorge
>
> P.S., if anyone wants to test it the site is: http://www.jopamusic.com
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[JAWS-Users] link url

[kaveinthran]

hi,

Is there any way in jaws to first no the URL of a link before go into it?

thanks

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Re: [JAWS-Users] ie problem fixed

[Jorge Paez]

What do you mean the DOM?
And how would I view that in IE by the way?


On May 31, 2011, at 4:53 AM, Bob wrote:

>   Strange.
> The tags I mentioned are in the head of the document in the source but when 
> you inspect the DOM they appear in the body.
> 
> I think that something in your script must be moving them.
> 
> 
> On 30/05/2011 22:18, Jorge Paez wrote:
>> Hi all:
>> Thanks for your feedback,
>> my site is now testing well on my end.
>> Please feel free to drop any accessibility issues you may face with the site 
>> in the future via this thread.
>> 
>> Jorge
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] ie problem fixed

[Bob]

   Strange.
The tags I mentioned are in the head of the document in the source but 
when you inspect the DOM they appear in the body.


I think that something in your script must be moving them.


On 30/05/2011 22:18, Jorge Paez wrote:

Hi all:
Thanks for your feedback,
my site is now testing well on my end.
Please feel free to drop any accessibility issues you may face with the site in 
the future via this thread.

Jorge



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