[JAWS-Users] colours
Hi, using outlook 2003 and jaws 10 I receive more and more emails where the changes made are in a given colour. Is there a way to locate these colour or colour changes? Tom Bisset Retail Investment Products, PCG TD BMO Financial Group Tel: (647) 258-8502 E-Mail tom.biss...@bmo.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dujari, Prateek Sent: June 28, 2012 1:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] WebVisum dead RE: research it http://www.nerdball.net/2012/06/21/save-webvism-and-still-use-it-for-now/ Another Sad news for blind PC users regarding non-audio captcha. the last remaining service which only worked on Firefox to begin with, is close to death. See URL above. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] colours
You can tell the color of a particular item with insert-5. You can probably write a rule in the skim reading tool to detect certain colors. I recall setting one of those up in the past, but you might need to know what specific color to look for. Take my advice, I don't use it anyway. Steve Lansing, MI - Original Message - From: Bissett, Tom To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:06 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] colours Hi, using outlook 2003 and jaws 10 I receive more and more emails where the changes made are in a given colour. Is there a way to locate these colour or colour changes? Tom Bisset Retail Investment Products, PCG TD BMO Financial Group Tel: (647) 258-8502 E-Mail tom.biss...@bmo.com -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dujari, Prateek Sent: June 28, 2012 1:40 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] WebVisum dead RE: research it http://www.nerdball.net/2012/06/21/save-webvism-and-still-use-it-for-now/ Another Sad news for blind PC users regarding non-audio captcha. the last remaining service which only worked on Firefox to begin with, is close to death. See URL above. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] jaws question
How many computers can a licence of jaws be put on? Kathy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question
Hi. I think you can put jaws on 3 computers. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws question How many computers can a licence of jaws be put on? Kathy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question
Can a JAWS version 11, on a Windows Vista OS be put on a Windows 7 Computer? Jerry - Original Message - From: Norman King norbk...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question Hi. I think you can put jaws on 3 computers. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws question How many computers can a licence of jaws be put on? Kathy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question
Hi. I don't know if you can transfer the license but jaws 11 should work on windows 7. If you need more activations contact fs and ask them. They gave me more a few weeks ago. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jerry martin Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question Can a JAWS version 11, on a Windows Vista OS be put on a Windows 7 Computer? Jerry - Original Message - From: Norman King norbk...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question Hi. I think you can put jaws on 3 computers. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws question How many computers can a licence of jaws be put on? Kathy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn
Hi Flor, no the forms mode issue isn't what I'm referring to - this doesn't happen to me. Are you sure that in fact you are using the correct BrailleNote drivers which support BrailleIn? If you're not, then you won't be able to type in grade two Braille and the letters will do other things (i.e. I believe the letter A will switch Braille display modes). I have a feeling this is what is probably going on because the BrailleNote has a full Braille keyboard so should in fact be fully adapted for use with BrailleIn. You have to download the signed drivers from the Humanware website. They work with both the BrailleNote Apex and mPower. I have a BrailleNote Apex and an older mPower and both experience an odd issue where two new lines do not appear properly when I press ENTER twice. BrailleIn otherwise works great. Can you try typing a sentence, doing two new lines, and then type another sentence? Be sure you're in a multiline edit field in Internet Explorer and feel free to try either on your BrailleNote or your Focus. Thanks! Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Grant, Which brailleNote, in either case? I also have an MPower 32 (QT), which is not very adapted towards braille input anyway: although using Windows Xp. In internet Explorer I prefer not to use AutoForms Mode. So then if I press enter I'm taken out of Forms Mode. Is the Forms Mode (or AutoForms Mode) scenario what you mean? or something else? - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Interesting, Flor. Can you also try that in Internet Explorer? This seems to be where the problem is most prevalent. If you don't experience it then maybe it's simply a problem with BrailleNotes (I've used two BrailleNotes, and two different computers, and still see the problem). Cheers, Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: This is being brailled with the Focus 40 Blue. This is after pressing its enter key twice. No problem. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hello all, I have a problem with the JAWS BrailleIn feature. I'm running the latest build of JAWS 13, and Windows 7 Ultimate. The problem is when I try to quickly insert two new line characters on my Braille display by pressing ENTER twice in succession. Rather than inserting the two new lines, JAWS instead exhibits some weird behaviour which is difficult to explain. It usually inserts one new line character as requested, but doesn't insert the other. Instead, I notice that either my cursor has been moved slightly, or there's a random space that has appeared somewhere on the new line, or both things happen. Again, it's the weirdest thing and very difficult to explain. But basically, I can't insert two new line characters in a row properly. The only way is to insert a new line, type some text, move my cursor back, and then insert the other new line. At the moment I'm using a Humanware BrailleNote as my Braille display, so it's very possible that the behaviour is specific to the Humanware displays. Has anyone experienced any odd behaviour like this with any model of Braille display? Thanks, Grant For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question
They give you 3 to use. Sense I have more than 3 at home with different ops, all have jaws on them sense I do own all of them. And when I was working for verizon that comp had a key also. They just don't want your keys on some one else's comp or ones that do not be long to you. At 04:46 PM 7/23/2012, you wrote: How many computers can a licence of jaws be put on? Kathy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question
I don't know if I can use it, since the Dept. of Assistive and Rehabilitative Services here in Texas purchased mine. I do not have the disk or anything. It was already installed on my laptop. - Original Message - From: Norman King norbk...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question Hi. I don't know if you can transfer the license but jaws 11 should work on windows 7. If you need more activations contact fs and ask them. They gave me more a few weeks ago. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jerry martin Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question Can a JAWS version 11, on a Windows Vista OS be put on a Windows 7 Computer? Jerry - Original Message - From: Norman King norbk...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question Hi. I think you can put jaws on 3 computers. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws question How many computers can a licence of jaws be put on? Kathy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn
Where in internet Explorer should i find a multi-line edit field? (that's why I'm asking about forms Mode. You can't do multi-line edits without autoforms enabled; or can you? One could paste in from Notepad, but that's not the same thing. I'm still using windows Xp; and, as I said, my brailleNote is QWERTY (QT) so the braille grade switching can't apply. I can, however, probably test the Focus. Also, i do have Autoforms Mode enabled in Firefox, so I know that multi-line edits are possible there. Oh, I guess I could try an email from gmail, then. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hi Flor, no the forms mode issue isn't what I'm referring to - this doesn't happen to me. Are you sure that in fact you are using the correct BrailleNote drivers which support BrailleIn? If you're not, then you won't be able to type in grade two Braille and the letters will do other things (i.e. I believe the letter A will switch Braille display modes). I have a feeling this is what is probably going on because the BrailleNote has a full Braille keyboard so should in fact be fully adapted for use with BrailleIn. You have to download the signed drivers from the Humanware website. They work with both the BrailleNote Apex and mPower. I have a BrailleNote Apex and an older mPower and both experience an odd issue where two new lines do not appear properly when I press ENTER twice. BrailleIn otherwise works great. Can you try typing a sentence, doing two new lines, and then type another sentence? Be sure you're in a multiline edit field in Internet Explorer and feel free to try either on your BrailleNote or your Focus. Thanks! Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Grant, Which brailleNote, in either case? I also have an MPower 32 (QT), which is not very adapted towards braille input anyway: although using Windows Xp. In internet Explorer I prefer not to use AutoForms Mode. So then if I press enter I'm taken out of Forms Mode. Is the Forms Mode (or AutoForms Mode) scenario what you mean? or something else? - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Interesting, Flor. Can you also try that in Internet Explorer? This seems to be where the problem is most prevalent. If you don't experience it then maybe it's simply a problem with BrailleNotes (I've used two BrailleNotes, and two different computers, and still see the problem). Cheers, Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: This is being brailled with the Focus 40 Blue. This is after pressing its enter key twice. No problem. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hello all, I have a problem with the JAWS BrailleIn feature. I'm running the latest build of JAWS 13, and Windows 7 Ultimate. The problem is when I try to quickly insert two new line characters on my Braille display by pressing ENTER twice in succession. Rather than inserting the two new lines, JAWS instead exhibits some weird behaviour which is difficult to explain. It usually inserts one new line character as requested, but doesn't insert the other. Instead, I notice that either my cursor has been moved slightly, or there's a random space that has appeared somewhere on the new line, or both things happen. Again, it's the weirdest thing and very difficult to explain. But basically, I can't insert two new line characters in a row properly. The only way is to insert a new line, type some text, move my cursor back, and then insert the other new line. At the moment I'm using a Humanware BrailleNote as my Braille display, so it's very possible that the behaviour is specific to the Humanware displays. Has anyone experienced any odd behaviour like this with any model of Braille display? Thanks, Grant For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] New googlegroups interface and JAWS
Hi, How are people getting on with JAWS and the new-look google groups interface? JAWS has trouble interpreting between links, buttons and menus. Often there the virtual cursor stays off, when it should be on. NVDA is doing a better job than JAWS with it at the moment. Can anyone relate, or relate their experiences if similar or different? For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question
Hi. I would suggest contacting them and asking them. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jerry martin Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:59 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question I don't know if I can use it, since the Dept. of Assistive and Rehabilitative Services here in Texas purchased mine. I do not have the disk or anything. It was already installed on my laptop. - Original Message - From: Norman King norbk...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:31 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question Hi. I don't know if you can transfer the license but jaws 11 should work on windows 7. If you need more activations contact fs and ask them. They gave me more a few weeks ago. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jerry martin Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 5:19 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question Can a JAWS version 11, on a Windows Vista OS be put on a Windows 7 Computer? Jerry - Original Message - From: Norman King norbk...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws question Hi. I think you can put jaws on 3 computers. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Kathy Pingstock Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 4:46 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws question How many computers can a licence of jaws be put on? Kathy For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn
Multiline edit fields, such as in the Gmail interface, work with auto forms mode. If it isn't working for you then there's something wrong. ENTER should not take you out of forms mode; that was never the way it was intended to work, otherwise you wouldn't be able to make a new line. The only way should be either to press ESCAPE or the PC Cursor command. Grant On 7/23/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Where in internet Explorer should i find a multi-line edit field? (that's why I'm asking about forms Mode. You can't do multi-line edits without autoforms enabled; or can you? One could paste in from Notepad, but that's not the same thing. I'm still using windows Xp; and, as I said, my brailleNote is QWERTY (QT) so the braille grade switching can't apply. I can, however, probably test the Focus. Also, i do have Autoforms Mode enabled in Firefox, so I know that multi-line edits are possible there. Oh, I guess I could try an email from gmail, then. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hi Flor, no the forms mode issue isn't what I'm referring to - this doesn't happen to me. Are you sure that in fact you are using the correct BrailleNote drivers which support BrailleIn? If you're not, then you won't be able to type in grade two Braille and the letters will do other things (i.e. I believe the letter A will switch Braille display modes). I have a feeling this is what is probably going on because the BrailleNote has a full Braille keyboard so should in fact be fully adapted for use with BrailleIn. You have to download the signed drivers from the Humanware website. They work with both the BrailleNote Apex and mPower. I have a BrailleNote Apex and an older mPower and both experience an odd issue where two new lines do not appear properly when I press ENTER twice. BrailleIn otherwise works great. Can you try typing a sentence, doing two new lines, and then type another sentence? Be sure you're in a multiline edit field in Internet Explorer and feel free to try either on your BrailleNote or your Focus. Thanks! Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Grant, Which brailleNote, in either case? I also have an MPower 32 (QT), which is not very adapted towards braille input anyway: although using Windows Xp. In internet Explorer I prefer not to use AutoForms Mode. So then if I press enter I'm taken out of Forms Mode. Is the Forms Mode (or AutoForms Mode) scenario what you mean? or something else? - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Interesting, Flor. Can you also try that in Internet Explorer? This seems to be where the problem is most prevalent. If you don't experience it then maybe it's simply a problem with BrailleNotes (I've used two BrailleNotes, and two different computers, and still see the problem). Cheers, Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: This is being brailled with the Focus 40 Blue. This is after pressing its enter key twice. No problem. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hello all, I have a problem with the JAWS BrailleIn feature. I'm running the latest build of JAWS 13, and Windows 7 Ultimate. The problem is when I try to quickly insert two new line characters on my Braille display by pressing ENTER twice in succession. Rather than inserting the two new lines, JAWS instead exhibits some weird behaviour which is difficult to explain. It usually inserts one new line character as requested, but doesn't insert the other. Instead, I notice that either my cursor has been moved slightly, or there's a random space that has appeared somewhere on the new line, or both things happen. Again, it's the weirdest thing and very difficult to explain. But basically, I can't insert two new line characters in a row properly. The only way is to insert a new line, type some text, move my cursor back, and then insert the other new line. At the moment I'm using a Humanware BrailleNote as my Braille display, so it's very possible that the behaviour is specific to the Humanware displays. Has anyone experienced any odd behaviour like this with any model of Braille display? Thanks, Grant For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn
I didn't say pressing enter in AutoForms Mode didn't work: I said that I don't have AutoForms mode enabled in internet Explorer. Will see some time how I do in Firefox, where I do have it enabled Thanks. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Multiline edit fields, such as in the Gmail interface, work with auto forms mode. If it isn't working for you then there's something wrong. ENTER should not take you out of forms mode; that was never the way it was intended to work, otherwise you wouldn't be able to make a new line. The only way should be either to press ESCAPE or the PC Cursor command. Grant On 7/23/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Where in internet Explorer should i find a multi-line edit field? (that's why I'm asking about forms Mode. You can't do multi-line edits without autoforms enabled; or can you? One could paste in from Notepad, but that's not the same thing. I'm still using windows Xp; and, as I said, my brailleNote is QWERTY (QT) so the braille grade switching can't apply. I can, however, probably test the Focus. Also, i do have Autoforms Mode enabled in Firefox, so I know that multi-line edits are possible there. Oh, I guess I could try an email from gmail, then. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hi Flor, no the forms mode issue isn't what I'm referring to - this doesn't happen to me. Are you sure that in fact you are using the correct BrailleNote drivers which support BrailleIn? If you're not, then you won't be able to type in grade two Braille and the letters will do other things (i.e. I believe the letter A will switch Braille display modes). I have a feeling this is what is probably going on because the BrailleNote has a full Braille keyboard so should in fact be fully adapted for use with BrailleIn. You have to download the signed drivers from the Humanware website. They work with both the BrailleNote Apex and mPower. I have a BrailleNote Apex and an older mPower and both experience an odd issue where two new lines do not appear properly when I press ENTER twice. BrailleIn otherwise works great. Can you try typing a sentence, doing two new lines, and then type another sentence? Be sure you're in a multiline edit field in Internet Explorer and feel free to try either on your BrailleNote or your Focus. Thanks! Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Grant, Which brailleNote, in either case? I also have an MPower 32 (QT), which is not very adapted towards braille input anyway: although using Windows Xp. In internet Explorer I prefer not to use AutoForms Mode. So then if I press enter I'm taken out of Forms Mode. Is the Forms Mode (or AutoForms Mode) scenario what you mean? or something else? - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Interesting, Flor. Can you also try that in Internet Explorer? This seems to be where the problem is most prevalent. If you don't experience it then maybe it's simply a problem with BrailleNotes (I've used two BrailleNotes, and two different computers, and still see the problem). Cheers, Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: This is being brailled with the Focus 40 Blue. This is after pressing its enter key twice. No problem. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hello all, I have a problem with the JAWS BrailleIn feature. I'm running the latest build of JAWS 13, and Windows 7 Ultimate. The problem is when I try to quickly insert two new line characters on my Braille display by pressing ENTER twice in succession. Rather than inserting the two new lines, JAWS instead exhibits some weird behaviour which is difficult to explain. It usually inserts one new line character as requested, but doesn't insert the other. Instead, I notice that either my cursor has been moved slightly, or there's a random space that has appeared somewhere on the new line, or both things happen. Again, it's the weirdest thing and very difficult to explain. But basically, I can't insert two new line characters in a row properly. The only way is to insert a new line, type some text, move my cursor back, and then insert the other new line. At the moment I'm using a Humanware BrailleNote as my Braille display, so it's very possible that the behaviour is specific to the Humanware displays. Has anyone experienced any odd behaviour like this with any model of Braille display? Thanks, Grant
[JAWS-Users] Jaws feindly window fax program.
Does anyoneknow a good jaws frriendly fax program windowd for Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: I didn't say pressing enter in AutoForms Mode didn't work: I said that I don't have AutoForms mode enabled in internet Explorer. Will see some time how I do in Firefox, where I do have it enabled Thanks. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Multiline edit fields, such as in the Gmail interface, work with auto forms mode. If it isn't working for you then there's something wrong. ENTER should not take you out of forms mode; that was never the way it was intended to work, otherwise you wouldn't be able to make a new line. The only way should be either to press ESCAPE or the PC Cursor command. Grant On 7/23/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Where in internet Explorer should i find a multi-line edit field? (that's why I'm asking about forms Mode. You can't do multi-line edits without autoforms enabled; or can you? One could paste in from Notepad, but that's not the same thing. I'm still using windows Xp; and, as I said, my brailleNote is QWERTY (QT) so the braille grade switching can't apply. I can, however, probably test the Focus. Also, i do have Autoforms Mode enabled in Firefox, so I know that multi-line edits are possible there. Oh, I guess I could try an email from gmail, then. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hi Flor, no the forms mode issue isn't what I'm referring to - this doesn't happen to me. Are you sure that in fact you are using the correct BrailleNote drivers which support BrailleIn? If you're not, then you won't be able to type in grade two Braille and the letters will do other things (i.e. I believe the letter A will switch Braille display modes). I have a feeling this is what is probably going on because the BrailleNote has a full Braille keyboard so should in fact be fully adapted for use with BrailleIn. You have to download the signed drivers from the Humanware website. They work with both the BrailleNote Apex and mPower. I have a BrailleNote Apex and an older mPower and both experience an odd issue where two new lines do not appear properly when I press ENTER twice. BrailleIn otherwise works great. Can you try typing a sentence, doing two new lines, and then type another sentence? Be sure you're in a multiline edit field in Internet Explorer and feel free to try either on your BrailleNote or your Focus. Thanks! Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Grant, Which brailleNote, in either case? I also have an MPower 32 (QT), which is not very adapted towards braille input anyway: although using Windows Xp. In internet Explorer I prefer not to use AutoForms Mode. So then if I press enter I'm taken out of Forms Mode. Is the Forms Mode (or AutoForms Mode) scenario what you mean? or something else? - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Interesting, Flor. Can you also try that in Internet Explorer? This seems to be where the problem is most prevalent. If you don't experience it then maybe it's simply a problem with BrailleNotes (I've used two BrailleNotes, and two different computers, and still see the problem). Cheers, Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: This is being brailled with the Focus 40 Blue. This is after pressing its enter key twice. No problem. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hello all, I have a problem with the JAWS BrailleIn feature. I'm running the latest build of JAWS 13, and Windows 7 Ultimate. The problem is when I try to quickly insert two new line characters on my Braille display by pressing ENTER twice in succession. Rather than inserting the two new lines, JAWS instead exhibits some weird behaviour which is difficult to explain. It usually inserts one new line character as requested, but doesn't insert the other. Instead, I notice that either my cursor has been moved slightly, or there's a random space that has appeared somewhere on the new line, or both things happen. Again, it's the weirdest thing and very difficult to explain. But basically, I can't insert two new line characters in a row properly. The only way is to insert a new line, type some text, move my cursor back, and then insert the other new line. At the moment I'm using a Humanware BrailleNote as my Braille
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn
In the Forms Mode as of old and as i still have it set up in IE, before AutoForms Mode was introduced a few versions ago, pressing enter takes you into Forms Mode and pressing enter again takes you out of Forms Mode again. It was not possible then to do multi-line edits there. Thus, one advantage of AutoForms Mode. (there are in my opinion disadvantages to it, which It is not my purpose to go into here.) - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Multiline edit fields, such as in the Gmail interface, work with auto forms mode. If it isn't working for you then there's something wrong. ENTER should not take you out of forms mode; that was never the way it was intended to work, otherwise you wouldn't be able to make a new line. The only way should be either to press ESCAPE or the PC Cursor command. Grant On 7/23/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Where in internet Explorer should i find a multi-line edit field? (that's why I'm asking about forms Mode. You can't do multi-line edits without autoforms enabled; or can you? One could paste in from Notepad, but that's not the same thing. I'm still using windows Xp; and, as I said, my brailleNote is QWERTY (QT) so the braille grade switching can't apply. I can, however, probably test the Focus. Also, i do have Autoforms Mode enabled in Firefox, so I know that multi-line edits are possible there. Oh, I guess I could try an email from gmail, then. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hi Flor, no the forms mode issue isn't what I'm referring to - this doesn't happen to me. Are you sure that in fact you are using the correct BrailleNote drivers which support BrailleIn? If you're not, then you won't be able to type in grade two Braille and the letters will do other things (i.e. I believe the letter A will switch Braille display modes). I have a feeling this is what is probably going on because the BrailleNote has a full Braille keyboard so should in fact be fully adapted for use with BrailleIn. You have to download the signed drivers from the Humanware website. They work with both the BrailleNote Apex and mPower. I have a BrailleNote Apex and an older mPower and both experience an odd issue where two new lines do not appear properly when I press ENTER twice. BrailleIn otherwise works great. Can you try typing a sentence, doing two new lines, and then type another sentence? Be sure you're in a multiline edit field in Internet Explorer and feel free to try either on your BrailleNote or your Focus. Thanks! Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Grant, Which brailleNote, in either case? I also have an MPower 32 (QT), which is not very adapted towards braille input anyway: although using Windows Xp. In internet Explorer I prefer not to use AutoForms Mode. So then if I press enter I'm taken out of Forms Mode. Is the Forms Mode (or AutoForms Mode) scenario what you mean? or something else? - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Interesting, Flor. Can you also try that in Internet Explorer? This seems to be where the problem is most prevalent. If you don't experience it then maybe it's simply a problem with BrailleNotes (I've used two BrailleNotes, and two different computers, and still see the problem). Cheers, Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: This is being brailled with the Focus 40 Blue. This is after pressing its enter key twice. No problem. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hello all, I have a problem with the JAWS BrailleIn feature. I'm running the latest build of JAWS 13, and Windows 7 Ultimate. The problem is when I try to quickly insert two new line characters on my Braille display by pressing ENTER twice in succession. Rather than inserting the two new lines, JAWS instead exhibits some weird behaviour which is difficult to explain. It usually inserts one new line character as requested, but doesn't insert the other. Instead, I notice that either my cursor has been moved slightly, or there's a random space that has appeared somewhere on the new line, or both things happen. Again, it's the weirdest thing and very difficult to explain. But basically, I can't insert two new line characters in a row properly. The only way is to insert a new line, type some text, move my cursor back, and then insert the other new line. At the moment I'm using a Humanware BrailleNote as
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn
Interesting; I've used webmail clients for upwards of ten years now, long before auto forms mode was ever introduced, and pressing enter would always insert a new line in a multi line edit field; the PC cursor command would take me out of forms mode. I wonder why it worked differently on your system - sounds like a bug as it wouldn't make sense to not be able to interact with a multi line edit field. Anyways, the behaviour with BrailleIn on my systems works regardless of whether you are using auto or forms mode as it isn't a forms mode issue, so feel free to give it a go for me in IE and report back. :) Grant On 7/23/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: In the Forms Mode as of old and as i still have it set up in IE, before AutoForms Mode was introduced a few versions ago, pressing enter takes you into Forms Mode and pressing enter again takes you out of Forms Mode again. It was not possible then to do multi-line edits there. Thus, one advantage of AutoForms Mode. (there are in my opinion disadvantages to it, which It is not my purpose to go into here.) - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Multiline edit fields, such as in the Gmail interface, work with auto forms mode. If it isn't working for you then there's something wrong. ENTER should not take you out of forms mode; that was never the way it was intended to work, otherwise you wouldn't be able to make a new line. The only way should be either to press ESCAPE or the PC Cursor command. Grant On 7/23/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Where in internet Explorer should i find a multi-line edit field? (that's why I'm asking about forms Mode. You can't do multi-line edits without autoforms enabled; or can you? One could paste in from Notepad, but that's not the same thing. I'm still using windows Xp; and, as I said, my brailleNote is QWERTY (QT) so the braille grade switching can't apply. I can, however, probably test the Focus. Also, i do have Autoforms Mode enabled in Firefox, so I know that multi-line edits are possible there. Oh, I guess I could try an email from gmail, then. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hi Flor, no the forms mode issue isn't what I'm referring to - this doesn't happen to me. Are you sure that in fact you are using the correct BrailleNote drivers which support BrailleIn? If you're not, then you won't be able to type in grade two Braille and the letters will do other things (i.e. I believe the letter A will switch Braille display modes). I have a feeling this is what is probably going on because the BrailleNote has a full Braille keyboard so should in fact be fully adapted for use with BrailleIn. You have to download the signed drivers from the Humanware website. They work with both the BrailleNote Apex and mPower. I have a BrailleNote Apex and an older mPower and both experience an odd issue where two new lines do not appear properly when I press ENTER twice. BrailleIn otherwise works great. Can you try typing a sentence, doing two new lines, and then type another sentence? Be sure you're in a multiline edit field in Internet Explorer and feel free to try either on your BrailleNote or your Focus. Thanks! Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Grant, Which brailleNote, in either case? I also have an MPower 32 (QT), which is not very adapted towards braille input anyway: although using Windows Xp. In internet Explorer I prefer not to use AutoForms Mode. So then if I press enter I'm taken out of Forms Mode. Is the Forms Mode (or AutoForms Mode) scenario what you mean? or something else? - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Interesting, Flor. Can you also try that in Internet Explorer? This seems to be where the problem is most prevalent. If you don't experience it then maybe it's simply a problem with BrailleNotes (I've used two BrailleNotes, and two different computers, and still see the problem). Cheers, Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: This is being brailled with the Focus 40 Blue. This is after pressing its enter key twice. No problem. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 12:37 AM Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hello all, I have a problem with the JAWS BrailleIn feature. I'm running the latest build of JAWS 13, and Windows 7 Ultimate. The problem is when I try to quickly insert two new line
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn
Perhaps there is a setting which controls the enter key from exiting forms Mode (until, let's say, you get to the submit button). However, NOT EVERYTHING reads properly IN FORMS MODE, especially in non-standard forms (of which there are legion on the internet). For now, my bet is that the Focus 40 Blue or other focus, bbeing an FS supported display, will not have the problem you have with the brailleNote from humanware. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Interesting; I've used webmail clients for upwards of ten years now, long before auto forms mode was ever introduced, and pressing enter would always insert a new line in a multi line edit field; the PC cursor command would take me out of forms mode. I wonder why it worked differently on your system - sounds like a bug as it wouldn't make sense to not be able to interact with a multi line edit field. Anyways, the behaviour with BrailleIn on my systems works regardless of whether you are using auto or forms mode as it isn't a forms mode issue, so feel free to give it a go for me in IE and report back. :) Grant On 7/23/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: In the Forms Mode as of old and as i still have it set up in IE, before AutoForms Mode was introduced a few versions ago, pressing enter takes you into Forms Mode and pressing enter again takes you out of Forms Mode again. It was not possible then to do multi-line edits there. Thus, one advantage of AutoForms Mode. (there are in my opinion disadvantages to it, which It is not my purpose to go into here.) - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Multiline edit fields, such as in the Gmail interface, work with auto forms mode. If it isn't working for you then there's something wrong. ENTER should not take you out of forms mode; that was never the way it was intended to work, otherwise you wouldn't be able to make a new line. The only way should be either to press ESCAPE or the PC Cursor command. Grant On 7/23/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Where in internet Explorer should i find a multi-line edit field? (that's why I'm asking about forms Mode. You can't do multi-line edits without autoforms enabled; or can you? One could paste in from Notepad, but that's not the same thing. I'm still using windows Xp; and, as I said, my brailleNote is QWERTY (QT) so the braille grade switching can't apply. I can, however, probably test the Focus. Also, i do have Autoforms Mode enabled in Firefox, so I know that multi-line edits are possible there. Oh, I guess I could try an email from gmail, then. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hi Flor, no the forms mode issue isn't what I'm referring to - this doesn't happen to me. Are you sure that in fact you are using the correct BrailleNote drivers which support BrailleIn? If you're not, then you won't be able to type in grade two Braille and the letters will do other things (i.e. I believe the letter A will switch Braille display modes). I have a feeling this is what is probably going on because the BrailleNote has a full Braille keyboard so should in fact be fully adapted for use with BrailleIn. You have to download the signed drivers from the Humanware website. They work with both the BrailleNote Apex and mPower. I have a BrailleNote Apex and an older mPower and both experience an odd issue where two new lines do not appear properly when I press ENTER twice. BrailleIn otherwise works great. Can you try typing a sentence, doing two new lines, and then type another sentence? Be sure you're in a multiline edit field in Internet Explorer and feel free to try either on your BrailleNote or your Focus. Thanks! Grant On 7/22/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Grant, Which brailleNote, in either case? I also have an MPower 32 (QT), which is not very adapted towards braille input anyway: although using Windows Xp. In internet Explorer I prefer not to use AutoForms Mode. So then if I press enter I'm taken out of Forms Mode. Is the Forms Mode (or AutoForms Mode) scenario what you mean? or something else? - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2012 6:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Interesting, Flor. Can you also try that in Internet Explorer? This seems to be where the problem is most prevalent. If you don't experience it then maybe it's simply a problem with BrailleNotes (I've used two BrailleNotes, and two different computers, and still see the
Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn
Ah, I think i have it now. When you get into the message body, pressing enter won't take you out of forms Mode. Meantime, I sent you and brailled in the below (via gmail). we have to braille in uncontracted, let jaws do the conversion to contracted braille. we now began a new paragraph. we are using 6-dot braille, and also having to remember that the punctuation signs are also different (because of computer braille). excuse the non-capitals; but, not being familiar with 8-dot braille i don't know the correct keys for them yet. 2 (Ok, sorry about that 2 down there. but as you have seen for yourself, not everything's the same when you braille in an email via the Web (as distinct from typing or brailling it in from an email program). the paragraphing is working as it should. - Original Message - From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Perhaps there is a setting which controls the enter key from exiting forms Mode (until, let's say, you get to the submit button). However, NOT EVERYTHING reads properly IN FORMS MODE, especially in non-standard forms (of which there are legion on the internet). For now, my bet is that the Focus 40 Blue or other focus, bbeing an FS supported display, will not have the problem you have with the brailleNote from humanware. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:08 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Interesting; I've used webmail clients for upwards of ten years now, long before auto forms mode was ever introduced, and pressing enter would always insert a new line in a multi line edit field; the PC cursor command would take me out of forms mode. I wonder why it worked differently on your system - sounds like a bug as it wouldn't make sense to not be able to interact with a multi line edit field. Anyways, the behaviour with BrailleIn on my systems works regardless of whether you are using auto or forms mode as it isn't a forms mode issue, so feel free to give it a go for me in IE and report back. :) Grant On 7/23/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: In the Forms Mode as of old and as i still have it set up in IE, before AutoForms Mode was introduced a few versions ago, pressing enter takes you into Forms Mode and pressing enter again takes you out of Forms Mode again. It was not possible then to do multi-line edits there. Thus, one advantage of AutoForms Mode. (there are in my opinion disadvantages to it, which It is not my purpose to go into here.) - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Multiline edit fields, such as in the Gmail interface, work with auto forms mode. If it isn't working for you then there's something wrong. ENTER should not take you out of forms mode; that was never the way it was intended to work, otherwise you wouldn't be able to make a new line. The only way should be either to press ESCAPE or the PC Cursor command. Grant On 7/23/12, Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie wrote: Where in internet Explorer should i find a multi-line edit field? (that's why I'm asking about forms Mode. You can't do multi-line edits without autoforms enabled; or can you? One could paste in from Notepad, but that's not the same thing. I'm still using windows Xp; and, as I said, my brailleNote is QWERTY (QT) so the braille grade switching can't apply. I can, however, probably test the Focus. Also, i do have Autoforms Mode enabled in Firefox, so I know that multi-line edits are possible there. Oh, I guess I could try an email from gmail, then. - Original Message - From: Grant Hardy grantha...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 10:30 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with JAWS BrailleIn Hi Flor, no the forms mode issue isn't what I'm referring to - this doesn't happen to me. Are you sure that in fact you are using the correct BrailleNote drivers which support BrailleIn? If you're not, then you won't be able to type in grade two Braille and the letters will do other things (i.e. I believe the letter A will switch Braille display modes). I have a feeling this is what is probably going on because the BrailleNote has a full Braille keyboard so should in fact be fully adapted for use with BrailleIn. You have to download the signed drivers from the Humanware website. They work with both the BrailleNote Apex and mPower. I have a BrailleNote Apex and an older mPower and both experience an odd issue where two new lines do not appear properly when I press ENTER twice. BrailleIn otherwise works great. Can you try typing a sentence, doing two new lines, and then type another sentence? Be sure
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