Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Marek Durila]

Hi,
Wrong link:
http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/jaws/jaws-public-beta.asp


 
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From:   Cristóbal 
To: ,
Date:   09/09/2013 06:26 PM
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Sent by:"JAWS-Users-List" 



So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's
the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade

It's also available on FS's front page.
While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be
mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that
were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display
driver
thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss
notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference.

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

R

Re: [JAWS-Users] Unmuting Windows System Volume

[abdulaziz dapilin]

if your friend is using JAWS14, i think layered keystroke insert space
bar + S for muting and unmuting JAWS will work. on the other hand, i
personally mute and un mute windows system sound right with in my
speaker's mixer. i dont know any keystroke for doing the task. i my
self do it manually.

On 9/10/13, Minnie Aveline  wrote:
> Hello Mike,
>
> My friend uses a desktop computer running Windows 7.
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 10, 2013, at 2:50 AM, "Mike B."  wrote:
>
>> Hi Min,
>>
>> Can you tell the list what operating system your friend is running?  It
>> would help in receiving the best answers.
>> Take care.
>> Mike
>> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Minnie aveline Juan
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 10:05 AM
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unmuting Windows System Volume
>>
>>
>>
>> Hello, everyone!
>>
>> Is there any shourtcut keystrokes for unmuting Windows system volume as
>> well
>> as for unmuting JAWS? A friend of mine is currently in dire need of
>> information regarding the matter. Your help would be sincerely
>> appreciated.
>> Thank you!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Minn
>>
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>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unmuting Windows System Volume

[Mike B.]

Hi Min,

Have your friend try the following to put a mute/unmute shortcut on the 
desktop & assign a keystroke to it.

1, go to desktop, Windows key+m,

2, press the keystroke, Ctrl+spacebar, To unselect all icons.

3, press the applications key, and down arrow and enter on, New sub menu.

4, now arrow and enter on, New shortcut.

5,Now type the following in the edit box,
sndvol
6, tab next, press enter.
You will see/hear;
sndvol.exe
Tab finish press enter.

Now, if you would like a hot-key,

1, desktop,
Press the letter "s" until you hear,
sndvol.exe.

2, now press alt+enter to bring up the properties,

3, tab until you hear;
Shortcut key none,
Here you could type "v"=volume or what ever letter you wish, Now press
enter.
So, alt+ctrl+v would bring up the sndvol dialog page,

Hope this helps.

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Minnie Aveline
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Unmuting Windows System Volume


Hello Mike,

My friend uses a desktop computer running Windows 7.
Thanks!



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 10, 2013, at 2:50 AM, "Mike B."  wrote:

> Hi Min,
>
> Can you tell the list what operating system your friend is running?  It
> would help in receiving the best answers.
> Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: Minnie aveline Juan
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 10:05 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unmuting Windows System Volume
>
>
>
> Hello, everyone!
>
> Is there any shourtcut keystrokes for unmuting Windows system volume as 
> well
> as for unmuting JAWS? A friend of mine is currently in dire need of
> information regarding the matter. Your help would be sincerely 
> appreciated.
> Thank you!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Minn
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unmuting Windows System Volume

[Minnie Aveline]

Hello Mike,

My friend uses a desktop computer running Windows 7. 
Thanks!



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 10, 2013, at 2:50 AM, "Mike B."  wrote:

> Hi Min,
> 
> Can you tell the list what operating system your friend is running?  It 
> would help in receiving the best answers.
> Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Minnie aveline Juan
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 10:05 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unmuting Windows System Volume
> 
> 
> 
> Hello, everyone!
> 
> Is there any shourtcut keystrokes for unmuting Windows system volume as well 
> as for unmuting JAWS? A friend of mine is currently in dire need of 
> information regarding the matter. Your help would be sincerely appreciated. 
> Thank you!
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Minn
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Flor Lynch]

A few years ago, a friend of mine who was using JAWS10 or 11 was able to
update/upgrade to the first or the subsequent public beta release of
JAWS12, although he didn't
have a SMA. If this has been changed, I welcome it, because I don't
think people should be auto-updating to a beta release of the new
version unless they've bought (or are intent to purchase) the new
version. It was a mite con fusing to him, when i told him he or his 
worke would have to purchase the full version of  the new version, and 
that the betas would expire pretty soon.


- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


Honestly I agree with you but I figure since the answer will be
forthcoming
tomorrow at the earliest why dispute it when we'll all find out so soon.

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the
ones
that mind don't matter.
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On

Behalf Of Marek Durila
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 3:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


Hi,
I don't agree, it is new version, it must be installed beta first, which
can
use authorization from 14, this will be updated, but not from 14 to 15.
this wasn't never in 13 and 12, when new update process was introduced.



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From: "David Ferrin" 

To: ,
Date: 09/09/2013 09:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Sent by: "JAWS-Users-List" 



So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows
in
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS
version
installed.

- Original Message -

From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release



Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is
installed then future updates along with the full version will come
down using check for updates, but not before.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in
short no.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist


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Re: [JAWS-Users] How well is MSE working for you?

[Don & Cher Bosch]

That is what Marilyn said that I was agreeing with whole-heartedly. I look
at the reviews each year and Norton doesn't rate that highly any more
either. 
Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jorge Rivas
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 11:35 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How well is MSE working for you?

I didn't understand your remark on Norton?

Norton is not jaws friendly, it actually sucks...
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Don & Cher Bosch
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How well is MSE working for you?

Thanks everyone for the votes of confidence. BitDefender has great ratings
and has worked very well for me for a number of years- but I'm ready to have
something I can totally access without sighted assistance. Totally agree
about Norton, Marilyn! 
Cher


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Shane Hecker
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013 1:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How well is MSE working for you?

I have tried Avg and Avast. Don't like either of them so went to MSE. It 
works fine. Be aware if you tell it to do a full scan it may take a 
while. It takes considerably longer than Avg or Avast, but the quick 
scan is pretty good. I also use Malware Bytes Antimalware. You do have 
to use the mouse to switch between tabs. In MSE, you don't need to use 
the mouse at all. Hope this helps.

Shane

On 9/6/2013 7:25 PM, Don & Cher Bosch wrote:
> To those list members who are using Microsoft's Security Essentials, is it
> doing the job for you? I'm getting tired of the accessibility problems
with
> BitDefender that I'm wondering whether I just need to bail. BD works
nicely
> in the background, but I find that disabling it or starting a specific
scan
> are both inaccessible. Please tell me whether you can use MSE without
> getting mal-ware on your computer. Thanks much.
>
> Cher
>
> and
>
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>


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unmuting Windows System Volume

[Mike B.]

Hi Min,

Can you tell the list what operating system your friend is running?  It 
would help in receiving the best answers.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Minnie aveline Juan
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 10:05 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unmuting Windows System Volume



Hello, everyone!

Is there any shourtcut keystrokes for unmuting Windows system volume as well 
as for unmuting JAWS? A friend of mine is currently in dire need of 
information regarding the matter. Your help would be sincerely appreciated. 
Thank you!

Kind regards,

Minn

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word Count in Word 2010

[Scott Duck]

Hi Kimsan,
I usually do it through the ribbons.  I just did control shift G a couple
times and it did not crash.  It doesn't do it every time that I am doing it
through the ribbons either, maybe once in twenty or thirty times.  Do you
think that using the key shortcut as opposed to using the menus would make a
difference for some reason?
Thanks,
Scott Duck


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 10:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word Count in Word 2010

What happens when you perform the keystroke CTRL shift g to perform a word
count. Does it still crash, as oppose to when accessing it through the
ribbons?

 Kimsan

kimsans...@aol.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 7:24 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word Count in Word 2010

Hi,

Has anyone noticed that, sometimes, when you go into the word count in Word
2010, JAWS crashes?  This happens pretty frequently with my system, which is
running latest build of JAWS 14 and Windows 8.  When this happens, I cannot
dump JAWS.  I have to run Narrator and use it to close the JAWS window, then
close Narrator, then restart JAWS.  Also, when this happens, after I do the
Windows key + enter, to Start Narrator, it takes Narrator a couple minutes
to start, as though the whole system is very draggy.  Just wondering if
anyone on the list has any thoughts before I contact FS tech support.  Of
course, JAWS 15 may clear the whole thing up.

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.

[Mike B.]

Hi Rich,

After uninstalling the drivers & Closing out of the device manager, just 
reboot 1 time.  What the hell, reboot 2 times if that feels better!  LOL, 
hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


Thank you Mike,
   These directions have  2 different ways to access this issue?
Or, do I go through the process which includes rebooting twice?

thanks.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


> Hi Rich,
>
> Below are steps on how to delete / / remove / uninstall & reinstall your
> USB
> port drivers.  Make sure that everything is unplugged from your USB ports
> except for your keyboard & mouse if you use 1.  These steps are for XP
> users.
>
> 1. Go to system properties.  Here are 3 ways to open System Properties.
> A. Press the Windows Key + Pause Key.
> B. Open the control panel, press the letter
> S, until you land on System Properties, & press enter.
> C. Go to your desktop, Highlight My Computer, Press Alt + emter key.
>
> 2. Control + Tab, 2 times to the Hardware Tab.
>
> 3. Tab 1 time to Device Manager / Device Manager button,  press the
> spacebar, & tab 1 time to your computer Tree View.
>
> 4. Arrow down this list to, Universal Serial Bus controllers, & press
> right
> arrow to open.
>
> 5. You  need to uninstall every item in this list, reboot the computer, &
> Windows will reinstall everything that you have uninstalled.
>
> A. Arrow down the list to highlight 1 item at a time.  With each item
> highlighted, press your applications / context menu key.
>
> B. Arrow down the list that opens & press enter on the Uninstall option.
> Do
> this on each item in the Universal Serial Bus controllers folder list.
>
> C. After you have uninstalled all the items, Press Alt + F4 to close
> everything, & reboot the computer.
>
> When you reboot the computer Windows will reinstall all the drivers that
> you
> uninstalled earlier.  Doing this got the USB Ports working again in this
> particular instance.  If your USB ports don't work after following the
> steps
> above, you
> have more serious issues.
> Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: Rich
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>
>
> I have XP pro.
> Remove the ports? That sounds complicated.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Siobhan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>
>
>> There is another way. I haven't done it in ages, and I'll look it up
>> before I tell you to do it. But I used to have a dell that acted up. I
>> had
>> to actually remove the usb ports, then when I rebooted, they showed up
>> againa dn things worked fine. as I said, I'l look it up then get back to
>> you. You have Windows eight? Let me know so I can get the right steps.
>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:25 PM, "Jorge Rivas" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Throw out that external USB hub..
>>> OR MAYBE BLOW OUT THE USB PORTS WITH THE COMPRESS AIR CAN.
>>>
>>> Jorge
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Shai
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:07 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Try doing a windows e and after you have reached the c drive doing a
>>> left
>>> or
>>> a right arrow to try and find those devices. Perhaps you have a view
>>> enabled
>>> that does not list the devices in a list.
>>> If you still can not locate those devices perhaps try disconnecting any
>>> USB
>>> hub you may be using and plug the device directly into the USB port. If
>>> you
>>> can still not see the device,   you may  need to use software to access
>>> the
>>> device and not windows itself.
>>> Hope that helps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Rich
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:40 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>>>
>>> One device is a cell phone and the other is a "leap frog" reading
>>> device.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Rick Justice" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>>>
>>>
 Hi Rich,
 Not everyUSB device shows up in the list of drives.
 What type of device is it?

 Rick Justice

 "Old p

[JAWS-Users] JAWS demo

[Melissa Hambleton]

I have XP and JAWS 12 and my computer is 32 bit and I was wondering if I can 
use the demo on a laptop that is running Vista and is 64 bit...I don't want 
to install JAWS, just run the demo...is this possible?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] create a cd and nero is gone

[Lenny McHugh]

I have it set to ask me every time. I did notice that express burn is in the 
list two times. That explaines why it shows up twice now how do I remove one 
of them in the list?


-Original Message- 
From: Isaac Hebert

Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 10:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] create a cd and nero is gone

You would have to go to control panel and then go to autoplay next
then there will be combo boxes   that  will allow you to choose what
happens when auto play shows up next  after you are done making you're
selections tab to the okay button then press enter on the okay button.

On 9/9/13, Lenny McHugh  wrote:

Hello, Well I finally got rid of nero. Now when I insert blank media I am
presented with a duplicate choice. Any ideas on why there two of the same
option and how to eliminate one of them. It probably is not hurting 
anything

but for an old systems analyst it tends to bother me.
AutoPlay
DVD RW Drive (E:)
Always do this for blank CDs:
Blank CD options
Burn an audio CD
using Windows Media Player
Burn files to disc
using Windows Explorer
Burn a Disc
using Express Burn Disc Burning Software
Burn a Disc
using Express Burn Disc Burning Software
Create a CD
using iTunes
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word Count in Word 2010

[Kimsan]

I just tried the word count through the ribbons and it did not crash;
however, I rarely use the ribbons for word count, so I do not have
experience with it crashing in that respect.
I would just use CTRL shift g if using the ribbons to perform a word count
keeps giving you problems.
Contact fs and let us know what they say to the reason of why it crashes
when using it through the ribbons.
Take care

 Kimsan

kimsans...@aol.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 8:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word Count in Word 2010

Hi Kimsan,
I usually do it through the ribbons.  I just did control shift G a couple
times and it did not crash.  It doesn't do it every time that I am doing it
through the ribbons either, maybe once in twenty or thirty times.  Do you
think that using the key shortcut as opposed to using the menus would make a
difference for some reason?
Thanks,
Scott Duck


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Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 10:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Word Count in Word 2010

What happens when you perform the keystroke CTRL shift g to perform a word
count. Does it still crash, as oppose to when accessing it through the
ribbons?

 Kimsan

kimsans...@aol.com

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Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 7:24 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word Count in Word 2010

Hi,

Has anyone noticed that, sometimes, when you go into the word count in Word
2010, JAWS crashes?  This happens pretty frequently with my system, which is
running latest build of JAWS 14 and Windows 8.  When this happens, I cannot
dump JAWS.  I have to run Narrator and use it to close the JAWS window, then
close Narrator, then restart JAWS.  Also, when this happens, after I do the
Windows key + enter, to Start Narrator, it takes Narrator a couple minutes
to start, as though the whole system is very draggy.  Just wondering if
anyone on the list has any thoughts before I contact FS tech support.  Of
course, JAWS 15 may clear the whole thing up.

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Cristóbal]

So, while it looks like the beta will be available tomorrow Tuesday, here's
the link with the new features, fixes and enhancements included in JFW 15.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/downloads/magic/MAGic-whats-new.asp#upgrade
It's also available on FS's front page. 
While I wasn't too excited about the upgrade since I figured it would be
mostly Windows 8 and touch screen centric, I am pleased with the fixes that
were supposedly addressed. Especially the third party braille display driver
thing and foreign language stuff. Not to mention other details like rss
notification in Firefox and Outlook and IE bugs being squashed. 



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference.

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15...
You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update
feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only.

Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release,
to be detected via Auto Updates going forward.

Regards,
Eric Damery

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version
installed.

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


> Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is 
> installed then future updates along with the full version will come 
> down using check for updates, but not before.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in 
> short no.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes 
> available.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> QWill there be a special link to download the beta?
>
>
>
> It's been a while.
>
>
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
>
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>

Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[tim]

Not for a beta release only the actual product release will be on cd. 
Only fools put beta releases on cd.


At 10:03 AM 9/9/2013, you wrote:

eric, i just tuned in to this thread.
so what you're saying is that I have to wait for my dvd or cd to 
reach me, right?

am i understanding you correct?
At 05:50 AM 9/9/2013, you wrote:

Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15...
You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto 
update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only.


Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the 
release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward.


Regards,
Eric Damery

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an 
update, interesting. I stand corrected.


David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch

Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta 
shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current 
full JAWS version installed.


- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


> Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is
> installed then future updates along with the full version will come
> down using check for updates, but not before.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in
> short no.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes
> available.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> QWill there be a special link to download the beta?
>
>
>
> It's been a while.
>
>
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
>
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.

[Trish]

and if that don't work, physically kick the thing,lol


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


Hi Rich,

After uninstalling the drivers & Closing out of the device manager, just
reboot 1 time.  What the hell, reboot 2 times if that feels better!  LOL,
hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


Thank you Mike,
   These directions have  2 different ways to access this issue?
Or, do I go through the process which includes rebooting twice?

thanks.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


> Hi Rich,
>
> Below are steps on how to delete / / remove / uninstall & reinstall your
> USB
> port drivers.  Make sure that everything is unplugged from your USB ports
> except for your keyboard & mouse if you use 1.  These steps are for XP
> users.
>
> 1. Go to system properties.  Here are 3 ways to open System Properties.
> A. Press the Windows Key + Pause Key.
> B. Open the control panel, press the letter
> S, until you land on System Properties, & press enter.
> C. Go to your desktop, Highlight My Computer, Press Alt + emter key.
>
> 2. Control + Tab, 2 times to the Hardware Tab.
>
> 3. Tab 1 time to Device Manager / Device Manager button,  press the
> spacebar, & tab 1 time to your computer Tree View.
>
> 4. Arrow down this list to, Universal Serial Bus controllers, & press
> right
> arrow to open.
>
> 5. You  need to uninstall every item in this list, reboot the computer, &
> Windows will reinstall everything that you have uninstalled.
>
> A. Arrow down the list to highlight 1 item at a time.  With each item
> highlighted, press your applications / context menu key.
>
> B. Arrow down the list that opens & press enter on the Uninstall option.
> Do
> this on each item in the Universal Serial Bus controllers folder list.
>
> C. After you have uninstalled all the items, Press Alt + F4 to close
> everything, & reboot the computer.
>
> When you reboot the computer Windows will reinstall all the drivers that
> you
> uninstalled earlier.  Doing this got the USB Ports working again in this
> particular instance.  If your USB ports don't work after following the
> steps
> above, you
> have more serious issues.
> Take care.
> Mike
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>
> - Original Message - 
> From: Rich
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>
>
> I have XP pro.
> Remove the ports? That sounds complicated.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Siobhan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>
>
>> There is another way. I haven't done it in ages, and I'll look it up
>> before I tell you to do it. But I used to have a dell that acted up. I
>> had
>> to actually remove the usb ports, then when I rebooted, they showed up
>> againa dn things worked fine. as I said, I'l look it up then get back to
>> you. You have Windows eight? Let me know so I can get the right steps.
>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:25 PM, "Jorge Rivas" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Throw out that external USB hub..
>>> OR MAYBE BLOW OUT THE USB PORTS WITH THE COMPRESS AIR CAN.
>>>
>>> Jorge
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Shai
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:07 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>> Try doing a windows e and after you have reached the c drive doing a
>>> left
>>> or
>>> a right arrow to try and find those devices. Perhaps you have a view
>>> enabled
>>> that does not list the devices in a list.
>>> If you still can not locate those devices perhaps try disconnecting any
>>> USB
>>> hub you may be using and plug the device directly into the USB port. If
>>> you
>>> can still not see the device,   you may  need to use software to access
>>> the
>>> device and not windows itself.
>>> Hope that helps
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Rich
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:40 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>>>
>>> One device is a cell phone and the other is a "leap frog" reading
>>> device.
>>>
>>> Rich
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Rick Justice" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:48 PM
>>> 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.

[Steve]

Did you try add new hardware wizard?

The other thing that I've had issues with on one of my computers is that the 
system doesn't recognize the USB hub.  If you connect a device, you get the 
chime but it does not recognize the device.  If I run a system restore to 
when I knew the things were working, it comes up fine again.


First, Rich, see this article from Microsoft and try the different methods 
they suggest.  Also note they have a related article for other workarounds 
if the ones here ddon't work.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/871233

Another issue is that your computer may have OHCI in suspended state.  YOu 
can go here to have Microsoft automatically apply a registry change or you 
can do it yourself

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314634

Just a couple suggestions.
Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI
- Original Message - 
From: "Rich" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.



Yes, the devices are turned on.
I mentioned earlier that I have a USB hub in that port and that does not 
show up, other than in the "add hardware" list.
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.



Hi Rich,

Are the devices turned on?  They may not show up if they're not turned 
on.

HTH
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Rich

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


One device is a cell phone and the other is a "leap frog" reading device.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.



Hi Rich,
Not everyUSB device shows up in the list of drives.
What type of device is it?

Rick Justice

"Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more
than younger people have had a chance to learn!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:23 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


Hi all
  I hope the subject line is accurate.
   I have XP pro and 14.0.
I am unable to find devices I plug in to my USB port .
I go to "my computer"  and I see a list that includes "C" drive and CD,
etc.
but , not, the new device I plug in to the front of the PC through a USB
port.
There is a USB hub.
When I go in to control panel and add new hardware,  I see a bunch of 
USB

items with useless labels.

I've looked through the items in the "C" drive but nothing looks like 
the

device

The software has been installed, and I hear the "ding" when I plug the
different devices in.
I assume that whenever a device is plugged in to the USB, I would see it
listed as "F" drive or something like that, in "my computer".

I don't see anything listed when I hit insert F 10 or 11 either.
Thanks for any help.

I don't have this problem on my other PC that is XP home.


Rich
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.

[Rich Hamel]

Thank you Mike,
  These directions have  2 different ways to access this issue?
Or, do I go through the process which includes rebooting twice?

thanks.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.



Hi Rich,

Below are steps on how to delete / / remove / uninstall & reinstall your 
USB

port drivers.  Make sure that everything is unplugged from your USB ports
except for your keyboard & mouse if you use 1.  These steps are for XP
users.

1. Go to system properties.  Here are 3 ways to open System Properties.
A. Press the Windows Key + Pause Key.
B. Open the control panel, press the letter
S, until you land on System Properties, & press enter.
C. Go to your desktop, Highlight My Computer, Press Alt + emter key.

2. Control + Tab, 2 times to the Hardware Tab.

3. Tab 1 time to Device Manager / Device Manager button,  press the
spacebar, & tab 1 time to your computer Tree View.

4. Arrow down this list to, Universal Serial Bus controllers, & press 
right

arrow to open.

5. You  need to uninstall every item in this list, reboot the computer, &
Windows will reinstall everything that you have uninstalled.

A. Arrow down the list to highlight 1 item at a time.  With each item
highlighted, press your applications / context menu key.

B. Arrow down the list that opens & press enter on the Uninstall option. 
Do

this on each item in the Universal Serial Bus controllers folder list.

C. After you have uninstalled all the items, Press Alt + F4 to close
everything, & reboot the computer.

When you reboot the computer Windows will reinstall all the drivers that 
you

uninstalled earlier.  Doing this got the USB Ports working again in this
particular instance.  If your USB ports don't work after following the 
steps

above, you
have more serious issues.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Rich

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


I have XP pro.
Remove the ports? That sounds complicated.
- Original Message - 
From: "Siobhan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.



There is another way. I haven't done it in ages, and I'll look it up
before I tell you to do it. But I used to have a dell that acted up. I 
had

to actually remove the usb ports, then when I rebooted, they showed up
againa dn things worked fine. as I said, I'l look it up then get back to
you. You have Windows eight? Let me know so I can get the right steps.
On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:25 PM, "Jorge Rivas" 
wrote:


Throw out that external USB hub..
OR MAYBE BLOW OUT THE USB PORTS WITH THE COMPRESS AIR CAN.

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.

Hi,
Try doing a windows e and after you have reached the c drive doing a 
left

or
a right arrow to try and find those devices. Perhaps you have a view
enabled
that does not list the devices in a list.
If you still can not locate those devices perhaps try disconnecting any
USB
hub you may be using and plug the device directly into the USB port. If
you
can still not see the device,   you may  need to use software to access
the
device and not windows itself.
Hope that helps



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rich
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.

One device is a cell phone and the other is a "leap frog" reading 
device.


Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.



Hi Rich,
Not everyUSB device shows up in the list of drives.
What type of device is it?

Rick Justice

"Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more
than younger people have had a chance to learn!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Rich Hamel" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:23 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


Hi all
 I hope the subject line is accurate.
  I have XP pro and 14.0.
I am unable to find devices I plug in to my USB port .
I go to "my computer"  and I see a list that includes "C" drive and CD,
etc.
but , not, the new device I plug in to the front of the PC through a 
USB

port.
There is a USB hub.
When I go in to control panel and add new hardware,  I see a bunch of
USB
items with useless labels.

I've looked through the items in the "C" drive but nothing looks like
the
device

The software has 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[randy tijerina]

eric, i just tuned in to this thread.
so what you're saying is that I have to wait for my dvd or cd to 
reach me, right?

am i understanding you correct?
At 05:50 AM 9/9/2013, you wrote:

Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15...
You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto 
update feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only.


Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the 
release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward.


Regards,
Eric Damery

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin

Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an 
update, interesting. I stand corrected.


David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List 
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor Lynch

Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta 
shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current 
full JAWS version installed.


- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


> Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is
> installed then future updates along with the full version will come
> down using check for updates, but not before.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in
> short no.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes
> available.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> QWill there be a special link to download the beta?
>
>
>
> It's been a while.
>
>
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
>
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] create a cd and nero is gone

[Isaac Hebert]

You would have to go to control panel and then go to autoplay next
then there will be combo boxes   that  will allow you to choose what
happens when auto play shows up next  after you are done making you're
selections tab to the okay button then press enter on the okay button.

On 9/9/13, Lenny McHugh  wrote:
> Hello, Well I finally got rid of nero. Now when I insert blank media I am
> presented with a duplicate choice. Any ideas on why there two of the same
> option and how to eliminate one of them. It probably is not hurting anything
> but for an old systems analyst it tends to bother me.
> AutoPlay
> DVD RW Drive (E:)
> Always do this for blank CDs:
> Blank CD options
> Burn an audio CD
> using Windows Media Player
> Burn files to disc
> using Windows Explorer
> Burn a Disc
> using Express Burn Disc Burning Software
> Burn a Disc
> using Express Burn Disc Burning Software
> Create a CD
> using iTunes
> ---
>
> Please visit my web page
>
> It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor
>
> There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind
>
> http://www.LennyMcHugh.com
>
> International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990R
>
>
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[JAWS-Users] Unmuting Windows System Volume

[Minnie aveline Juan]

Hello, everyone!

Is there any shourtcut keystrokes for unmuting Windows system volume as well as 
for unmuting JAWS? A friend of mine is currently in dire need of information 
regarding the matter. Your help would be sincerely appreciated. Thank you!

Kind regards,

Minn

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS demo

[RJ]

Go to the F S site and download the demo.
- Original Message - 
From: "Melissa Hambleton" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 7:00 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS demo


I have XP and JAWS 12 and my computer is 32 bit and I was wondering if I 
can use the demo on a laptop that is running Vista and is 64 bit...I don't 
want to install JAWS, just run the demo...is this possible?


Thank you,
Melissa

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS demo

[David Ferrin]

Yes but you will have to download the 64 bit version. 

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Melissa Hambleton
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 7:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS demo

I have XP and JAWS 12 and my computer is 32 bit and I was wondering if I can
use the demo on a laptop that is running Vista and is 64 bit...I don't want
to install JAWS, just run the demo...is this possible?

Thank you,
Melissa 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[David Ferrin]

Like my partner has already said, enough already. Give it a rest until there
is actually something further to discuss like what it does or does not do
well.

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of tim
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 4:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Not for a beta release only the actual product release will be on cd. 
Only fools put beta releases on cd.

At 10:03 AM 9/9/2013, you wrote:
>eric, i just tuned in to this thread.
>so what you're saying is that I have to wait for my dvd or cd to reach 
>me, right?
>am i understanding you correct?
>At 05:50 AM 9/9/2013, you wrote:
>>Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15...
>>You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update 
>>feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only.
>>
>>Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the 
>>release, to be detected via Auto Updates going forward.
>>
>>Regards,
>>Eric Damery
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List
>>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David 
>>Ferrin
>>Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM
>>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>>
>>So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an 
>>update, interesting. I stand corrected.
>>
>>David Ferrin
>>A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
>>evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>>-Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List
>>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Flor 
>>Lynch
>>Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
>>To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>>
>>David.
>>Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta 
>>shows in JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current 
>>full JAWS version installed.
>>
>>- Original Message -
>>From: "David Ferrin" 
>>To: 
>>Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
>>Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>>
>>
>> > Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is 
>> > installed then future updates along with the full version will come 
>> > down using check for updates, but not before.
>> >
>> > David Ferrin
>> > A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
>> > evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> >>From: JAWS-Users-List 
>> >>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> >>On
>> > Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
>> > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>> >
>> > I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.
>> >
>> > Mellissa Green
>> >
>> >
>> > @GreenNovelist
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> >>From: JAWS-Users-List 
>> >>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> >>On
>> > Behalf Of David Ferrin
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
>> > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>> >
>> > That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so 
>> > in short no.
>> >
>> > David Ferrin
>> > A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
>> > evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> >>From: JAWS-Users-List 
>> >>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> >>On
>> > Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
>> > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>> >
>> > Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?
>> >
>> > Mellissa Green
>> >
>> >
>> > @GreenNovelist
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> >>From: JAWS-Users-List 
>> >>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> >>On
>> > Behalf Of David Ferrin
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
>> > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>> >
>> > The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page 
>> > becomes available.
>> >
>> > David Ferrin
>> > A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
>> > evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>> >
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> >>From: JAWS-Users-List 
>> >>[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> >>On
>> > Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
>> > Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM
>> > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>> >
>> > QWill there be a special link to download the beta?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > It's been a while.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Mellissa Green
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >

[JAWS-Users] Jaws Beta Release

[Moderator]

I think we have taken this topic as far as it needs to go,
until the beta is actually released, so how about we give it a rest until 
then.
There has just been a lot of traffic on this topic, which has not been 
useful.
Thank you,
Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.

[Rich Hamel]

I've considered that, but I'm afraid I'll hurt my foot.
- Original Message - 
From: "Trish" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.



and if that don't work, physically kick the thing,lol


- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 12:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


Hi Rich,

After uninstalling the drivers & Closing out of the device manager, just
reboot 1 time.  What the hell, reboot 2 times if that feels better!  LOL,
hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Rich Hamel

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


Thank you Mike,
  These directions have  2 different ways to access this issue?
Or, do I go through the process which includes rebooting twice?

thanks.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.



Hi Rich,

Below are steps on how to delete / / remove / uninstall & reinstall your
USB
port drivers.  Make sure that everything is unplugged from your USB ports
except for your keyboard & mouse if you use 1.  These steps are for XP
users.

1. Go to system properties.  Here are 3 ways to open System Properties.
A. Press the Windows Key + Pause Key.
B. Open the control panel, press the letter
S, until you land on System Properties, & press enter.
C. Go to your desktop, Highlight My Computer, Press Alt + emter key.

2. Control + Tab, 2 times to the Hardware Tab.

3. Tab 1 time to Device Manager / Device Manager button,  press the
spacebar, & tab 1 time to your computer Tree View.

4. Arrow down this list to, Universal Serial Bus controllers, & press
right
arrow to open.

5. You  need to uninstall every item in this list, reboot the computer, &
Windows will reinstall everything that you have uninstalled.

A. Arrow down the list to highlight 1 item at a time.  With each item
highlighted, press your applications / context menu key.

B. Arrow down the list that opens & press enter on the Uninstall option.
Do
this on each item in the Universal Serial Bus controllers folder list.

C. After you have uninstalled all the items, Press Alt + F4 to close
everything, & reboot the computer.

When you reboot the computer Windows will reinstall all the drivers that
you
uninstalled earlier.  Doing this got the USB Ports working again in this
particular instance.  If your USB ports don't work after following the
steps
above, you
have more serious issues.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Rich

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


I have XP pro.
Remove the ports? That sounds complicated.
- Original Message - 
From: "Siobhan" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.



There is another way. I haven't done it in ages, and I'll look it up
before I tell you to do it. But I used to have a dell that acted up. I
had
to actually remove the usb ports, then when I rebooted, they showed up
againa dn things worked fine. as I said, I'l look it up then get back to
you. You have Windows eight? Let me know so I can get the right steps.
On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:25 PM, "Jorge Rivas" 
wrote:


Throw out that external USB hub..
OR MAYBE BLOW OUT THE USB PORTS WITH THE COMPRESS AIR CAN.

Jorge


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On

Behalf Of Shai
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.

Hi,
Try doing a windows e and after you have reached the c drive doing a
left
or
a right arrow to try and find those devices. Perhaps you have a view
enabled
that does not list the devices in a list.
If you still can not locate those devices perhaps try disconnecting any
USB
hub you may be using and plug the device directly into the USB port. If
you
can still not see the device,   you may  need to use software to access
the
device and not windows itself.
Hope that helps



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On

Behalf Of Rich
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.

One device is a cell phone and the other is a "leap frog" reading
device.

Rich
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.



Hi Rich,
Not ev

[JAWS-Users] Window's Mail for Window's 8

[Trish]

Does this work on Window's 8?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Word Count in Word 2010

[Kimsan]

What happens when you perform the keystroke CTRL shift g to perform a word
count. Does it still crash, as oppose to when accessing it through the
ribbons?

 Kimsan

kimsans...@aol.com

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Scott Duck
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 7:24 AM
To: Jaws List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Word Count in Word 2010

Hi,

Has anyone noticed that, sometimes, when you go into the word count in Word
2010, JAWS crashes?  This happens pretty frequently with my system, which is
running latest build of JAWS 14 and Windows 8.  When this happens, I cannot
dump JAWS.  I have to run Narrator and use it to close the JAWS window, then
close Narrator, then restart JAWS.  Also, when this happens, after I do the
Windows key + enter, to Start Narrator, it takes Narrator a couple minutes
to start, as though the whole system is very draggy.  Just wondering if
anyone on the list has any thoughts before I contact FS tech support.  Of
course, JAWS 15 may clear the whole thing up.

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews]

Coffee. Sounds good, I think I'll join you.

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 7:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Like I said in an earlier post, I figured no point in disagreeing with
anybody especially at 3:30 in the morning when the answer is coming out in a
couple of days. 

I am quite aware the practice has always been that you can only update your
current version with the check for updates feature in the help menu.
Sometimes it's just easier to let folks have it their way and it will all
come out in the wash. 

We have always had to install a new major version ourselves before ever
being able to update it. This in my opinion is a good practice to follow,
especially when it comes to beta software. Thanks and now that the fog has
cleared somewhat it's time for huge amounts of coffee. 
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 6:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15...
You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update
feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only.

Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release,
to be detected via Auto Updates going forward.

Regards,
Eric Damery

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version
installed.

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


> Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is 
> installed then future updates along with the full version will come 
> down using check for updates, but not before.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in 
> short no.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes 
> available.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews]

Thanks. And nice meeting at the NFb conference.

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 6:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15...
You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update
feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only.

Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release,
to be detected via Auto Updates going forward.

Regards,
Eric Damery

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version
installed.

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


> Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is 
> installed then future updates along with the full version will come 
> down using check for updates, but not before.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in 
> short no.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes 
> available.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> QWill there be a special link to download the beta?
>
>
>
> It's been a while.
>
>
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
>
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews]

I think we're just all excited about the beta and new Fs reader.

Mellissa Green


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 7:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Honestly I agree with you but I figure since the answer will be forthcoming
tomorrow at the earliest why dispute it when we'll all find out so soon. 

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
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Behalf Of Marek Durila
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 3:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


Hi,
I don't agree, it is new version, it must be installed beta first, which can
use authorization from 14, this will be updated, but not from 14 to 15.
this wasn't never in 13 and 12, when new update process was introduced.


 
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From:   "David Ferrin" 
To: ,
Date:   09/09/2013 09:50 AM
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Sent by:"JAWS-Users-List" 



So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
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a simpler system that worked pe

[JAWS-Users] Word Count in Word 2010

[Scott Duck]

Hi,

Has anyone noticed that, sometimes, when you go into the word count in Word
2010, JAWS crashes?  This happens pretty frequently with my system, which is
running latest build of JAWS 14 and Windows 8.  When this happens, I cannot
dump JAWS.  I have to run Narrator and use it to close the JAWS window, then
close Narrator, then restart JAWS.  Also, when this happens, after I do the
Windows key + enter, to Start Narrator, it takes Narrator a couple minutes
to start, as though the whole system is very draggy.  Just wondering if
anyone on the list has any thoughts before I contact FS tech support.  Of
course, JAWS 15 may clear the whole thing up.

Thanks,

Scott Duck

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[JAWS-Users] create a cd and nero is gone

[Lenny McHugh]

Hello, Well I finally got rid of nero. Now when I insert blank media I am 
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option and how to eliminate one of them. It probably is not hurting anything 
but for an old systems analyst it tends to bother me.
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Always do this for blank CDs:
Blank CD options
Burn an audio CD
using Windows Media Player
Burn files to disc
using Windows Explorer
Burn a Disc
using Express Burn Disc Burning Software
Burn a Disc
using Express Burn Disc Burning Software
Create a CD
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.

[Siobhan]

Mike, thank you. That's what I was intending to tell him. Been a long time 
since i used xp. ;)
Siobhan
On Sep 9, 2013, at 9:16 AM, "Mike B."  wrote:

> Hi Rich,
> 
> Below are steps on how to delete / / remove / uninstall & reinstall your USB 
> port drivers.  Make sure that everything is unplugged from your USB ports 
> except for your keyboard & mouse if you use 1.  These steps are for XP 
> users.
> 
> 1. Go to system properties.  Here are 3 ways to open System Properties.
> A. Press the Windows Key + Pause Key.
> B. Open the control panel, press the letter
> S, until you land on System Properties, & press enter.
> C. Go to your desktop, Highlight My Computer, Press Alt + emter key.
> 
> 2. Control + Tab, 2 times to the Hardware Tab.
> 
> 3. Tab 1 time to Device Manager / Device Manager button,  press the
> spacebar, & tab 1 time to your computer Tree View.
> 
> 4. Arrow down this list to, Universal Serial Bus controllers, & press right
> arrow to open.
> 
> 5. You  need to uninstall every item in this list, reboot the computer, &
> Windows will reinstall everything that you have uninstalled.
> 
> A. Arrow down the list to highlight 1 item at a time.  With each item
> highlighted, press your applications / context menu key.
> 
> B. Arrow down the list that opens & press enter on the Uninstall option.  Do
> this on each item in the Universal Serial Bus controllers folder list.
> 
> C. After you have uninstalled all the items, Press Alt + F4 to close
> everything, & reboot the computer.
> 
> When you reboot the computer Windows will reinstall all the drivers that you
> uninstalled earlier.  Doing this got the USB Ports working again in this
> particular instance.  If your USB ports don't work after following the steps 
> above, you
> have more serious issues.
> Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: Rich
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
> 
> 
> I have XP pro.
> Remove the ports? That sounds complicated.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Siobhan" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
> 
> 
>> There is another way. I haven't done it in ages, and I'll look it up
>> before I tell you to do it. But I used to have a dell that acted up. I had
>> to actually remove the usb ports, then when I rebooted, they showed up
>> againa dn things worked fine. as I said, I'l look it up then get back to
>> you. You have Windows eight? Let me know so I can get the right steps.
>> On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:25 PM, "Jorge Rivas" 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Throw out that external USB hub..
>>> OR MAYBE BLOW OUT THE USB PORTS WITH THE COMPRESS AIR CAN.
>>> 
>>> Jorge
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Shai
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:07 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Try doing a windows e and after you have reached the c drive doing a left
>>> or
>>> a right arrow to try and find those devices. Perhaps you have a view
>>> enabled
>>> that does not list the devices in a list.
>>> If you still can not locate those devices perhaps try disconnecting any
>>> USB
>>> hub you may be using and plug the device directly into the USB port. If
>>> you
>>> can still not see the device,   you may  need to use software to access
>>> the
>>> device and not windows itself.
>>> Hope that helps
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Rich
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:40 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>>> 
>>> One device is a cell phone and the other is a "leap frog" reading device.
>>> 
>>> Rich
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Rick Justice" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>>> 
>>> 
 Hi Rich,
 Not everyUSB device shows up in the list of drives.
 What type of device is it?
 
 Rick Justice
 
 "Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more
 than younger people have had a chance to learn!"
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: "Rich Hamel" 
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:23 PM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
 
 
 Hi all
 I hope the subject line is accurate.
  I have XP pro and 14.0.
 I am unable to find devices I plug in to my USB port .
 I go to "my computer"  and I see a list that includes "C" drive and CD,
 etc.
 but , not, the new device I plug in to the front of 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.

[Mike B.]

Hi Rich,

Below are steps on how to delete / / remove / uninstall & reinstall your USB 
port drivers.  Make sure that everything is unplugged from your USB ports 
except for your keyboard & mouse if you use 1.  These steps are for XP 
users.

1. Go to system properties.  Here are 3 ways to open System Properties.
A. Press the Windows Key + Pause Key.
B. Open the control panel, press the letter
S, until you land on System Properties, & press enter.
C. Go to your desktop, Highlight My Computer, Press Alt + emter key.

2. Control + Tab, 2 times to the Hardware Tab.

3. Tab 1 time to Device Manager / Device Manager button,  press the
spacebar, & tab 1 time to your computer Tree View.

4. Arrow down this list to, Universal Serial Bus controllers, & press right
arrow to open.

5. You  need to uninstall every item in this list, reboot the computer, &
Windows will reinstall everything that you have uninstalled.

A. Arrow down the list to highlight 1 item at a time.  With each item
highlighted, press your applications / context menu key.

B. Arrow down the list that opens & press enter on the Uninstall option.  Do
this on each item in the Universal Serial Bus controllers folder list.

C. After you have uninstalled all the items, Press Alt + F4 to close
everything, & reboot the computer.

When you reboot the computer Windows will reinstall all the drivers that you
uninstalled earlier.  Doing this got the USB Ports working again in this
particular instance.  If your USB ports don't work after following the steps 
above, you
have more serious issues.
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Rich
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


I have XP pro.
Remove the ports? That sounds complicated.
- Original Message - 
From: "Siobhan" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 7:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.


> There is another way. I haven't done it in ages, and I'll look it up
> before I tell you to do it. But I used to have a dell that acted up. I had
> to actually remove the usb ports, then when I rebooted, they showed up
> againa dn things worked fine. as I said, I'l look it up then get back to
> you. You have Windows eight? Let me know so I can get the right steps.
> On Sep 8, 2013, at 7:25 PM, "Jorge Rivas" 
> wrote:
>
>> Throw out that external USB hub..
>> OR MAYBE BLOW OUT THE USB PORTS WITH THE COMPRESS AIR CAN.
>>
>> Jorge
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Shai
>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:07 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>>
>> Hi,
>> Try doing a windows e and after you have reached the c drive doing a left
>> or
>> a right arrow to try and find those devices. Perhaps you have a view
>> enabled
>> that does not list the devices in a list.
>> If you still can not locate those devices perhaps try disconnecting any
>> USB
>> hub you may be using and plug the device directly into the USB port. If
>> you
>> can still not see the device,   you may  need to use software to access
>> the
>> device and not windows itself.
>> Hope that helps
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Rich
>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 2:40 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>>
>> One device is a cell phone and the other is a "leap frog" reading device.
>>
>> Rich
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Rick Justice" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>>
>>
>>> Hi Rich,
>>> Not everyUSB device shows up in the list of drives.
>>> What type of device is it?
>>>
>>> Rick Justice
>>>
>>> "Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more
>>> than younger people have had a chance to learn!"
>>>
>>> - Original Message - 
>>> From: "Rich Hamel" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:23 PM
>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can not find the drive with new devices.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>>  I hope the subject line is accurate.
>>>   I have XP pro and 14.0.
>>> I am unable to find devices I plug in to my USB port .
>>> I go to "my computer"  and I see a list that includes "C" drive and CD,
>>> etc.
>>> but , not, the new device I plug in to the front of the PC through a USB
>>> port.
>>> There is a USB hub.
>>> When I go in to control panel and add new hardware,  I see a bunch of
>>> USB
>>> items with useless labels.
>>>
>>> I've looked through the items in the "C" drive but nothing looks like
>>> the
>>> device
>>>
>>> The software has been installed, and I hear the "ding" when I plug the
>>> different de

Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder

[David Ferrin]

Now I remember where I heard that trick didn't work, OK this is not going to
be my day.

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 8:07 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder

I've already tried that approach, no joy.
HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

- Original Message - 
From: "Dang Manh Cuong" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 6:17 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder


Windows 7 sound recorder only save the recorded file as WMA. I have the old
windows sound recorder from windows xp. Someone told this could work on
windows 7, but I haven't try yet. If you'd like, I can share.
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From: "André van Deventer" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder


Windows 7.

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Hi André
Which version of Windows are you using?

Rick Justice

"Old people aren't dumb, they have just forgotten more than younger people
have had a chance to learn!"

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder


Hi all



I'm looking for a free sound recorder which is jaws friendly and very simply
to use.  But it must be accessible and able to record in .wav.



Something like the windows sound recorder but able to record in .wav.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder

[Rick Justice]

I've already tried that approach, no joy.
HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder


Windows 7 sound recorder only save the recorded file as WMA. I have the old
windows sound recorder from windows xp. Someone told this could work on
windows 7, but I haven't try yet. If you'd like, I can share.
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder


Windows 7.

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Hi André
Which version of Windows are you using?

Rick Justice

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have had a chance to learn!"

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder


Hi all



I'm looking for a free sound recorder which is jaws friendly and very simply
to use.  But it must be accessible and able to record in .wav.



Something like the windows sound recorder but able to record in .wav.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder

[David Ferrin]

I am thinking that is not going to work. MS does a good job at disabling
such things. This is only an educated guess I do admit. 

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder

Windows 7 sound recorder only save the recorded file as WMA. I have the old
windows sound recorder from windows xp. Someone told this could work on
windows 7, but I haven't try yet. If you'd like, I can share.
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From: "André van Deventer" 
To: 
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder


Windows 7.

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Which version of Windows are you using?

Rick Justice

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have had a chance to learn!"

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From: "André van Deventer" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:31 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder


Hi all



I'm looking for a free sound recorder which is jaws friendly and very simply
to use.  But it must be accessible and able to record in .wav.



Something like the windows sound recorder but able to record in .wav.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder

[Dang Manh Cuong]

Windows 7 sound recorder only save the recorded file as WMA. I have the old 
windows sound recorder from windows xp. Someone told this could work on 
windows 7, but I haven't try yet. If you'd like, I can share.
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To: 
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder


Windows 7.

s

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Hi André
Which version of Windows are you using?

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have had a chance to learn!"

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:31 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] looking for a jaws accessible free sound recorder


Hi all



I'm looking for a free sound recorder which is jaws friendly and very simply
to use.  But it must be accessible and able to record in .wav.



Something like the windows sound recorder but able to record in .wav.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[David Ferrin]

Like I said in an earlier post, I figured no point in disagreeing with
anybody especially at 3:30 in the morning when the answer is coming out in a
couple of days. 

I am quite aware the practice has always been that you can only update your
current version with the check for updates feature in the help menu.
Sometimes it's just easier to let folks have it their way and it will all
come out in the wash. 

We have always had to install a new major version ourselves before ever
being able to update it. This in my opinion is a good practice to follow,
especially when it comes to beta software. Thanks and now that the fog has
cleared somewhat it's time for huge amounts of coffee. 
David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.

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Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 6:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15...
You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update
feature works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only.

Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release,
to be detected via Auto Updates going forward.

Regards,
Eric Damery

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Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
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Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version
installed.

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From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


> Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is 
> installed then future updates along with the full version will come 
> down using check for updates, but not before.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in 
> short no.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes 
> available.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> QWill there be a special link to download the beta?
>
>
>
> It's been a while.
>
>
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
>
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[David Ferrin]

Honestly I agree with you but I figure since the answer will be forthcoming
tomorrow at the earliest why dispute it when we'll all find out so soon. 

David Ferrin
Always be yourself because the people that matter don't mind, and the ones
that mind don't matter.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Marek Durila
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 3:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


Hi,
I don't agree, it is new version, it must be installed beta first, which can
use authorization from 14, this will be updated, but not from 14 to 15.
this wasn't never in 13 and 12, when new update process was introduced.


 
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Date:   09/09/2013 09:50 AM
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
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So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in
JAWS upda

Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Marek Durila]

Hi,
Where is the FS cast? I missed probably something :-(


 
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From:   "Michael Capelle" 
To: ,
Date:   09/09/2013 01:33 PM
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
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that's right, lets not speculate here.

-Original Message-
From: Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 6:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Interesting. I guess we'll all find out.

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS
version
installed.

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Michael Capelle]

that's right, lets not speculate here.

-Original Message- 
From: Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews

Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 6:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Interesting. I guess we'll all find out.

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version
installed.

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release



Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is
installed
then future updates along with the full version will come down using
check
for updates, but not before.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in
short
no.

David Ferrin
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evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist


-Original Message-

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On

Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes
available.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

QWill there be a special link to download the beta?



It's been a while.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] removing nero

[Lenny McHugh]

Interesting, it has now been deleted. The shift delete did nothing. Then I 
just used the delete key and it was sent to the recycle bin. This time I did 
not get the administrator required message.


-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Rivas

Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing nero

Hi,
Even if you delete a program out of the add & remove; some programs leave a 
foot print in the programs files in the C drive.


I just removed a roxio folder by pressing the delete key only to test 
myself..


But,that command worked for me, Control + Shift + delete, if the delete key 
didn't work in removing a left over foot print in the program files in the 
past in XP, after trying the delete key first.

I wished Roxio didn't delete and I would have tried this command.

Later.


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of tim

Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] removing nero

The keys control + alt + delete only brings up
the lock screen and change logged in user.
You want to look in the task tray and see if nero
is running and see if you can close it. Then go
to programs and features or add/remove and see if
there is any nero listed there. Try to remove it
there before deleting it from the program files.
Deleting from that folder will cause you problems
if not done from add/remove or programs and
features. The reason it won't let you delete it is because it is still 
running.


At 11:11 AM 9/8/2013, you wrote:

Try using the key command: Control + alt +
delete. And if it doesn't work try again. I
cleaned out a bunch of programs folders and it
did ask me the same thing, but I was just using
the delete ke  only. Try it what do  you have to
lose.Jorge
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] removing nero Some time
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or dve windows ask if I want to use nero smart
smart. If I choose it I get the message that
some files are missing and to reinstall nero. I
have been trying to find where the program
is  located. There are also nero manuals. I
finally found them under program files and the
folder ahead. I tried to delete that folder and
am told that an administrator is required. I am
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews]

Interesting. I guess we'll all find out.

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version
installed.

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


> Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is 
> installed
> then future updates along with the full version will come down using 
> check
> for updates, but not before.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from
> a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in 
> short
> no.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from
> a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes
> available.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from
> a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> QWill there be a special link to download the beta?
>
>
>
> It's been a while.
>
>
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews]

I updated my authorization as recommended by the Freedom Scientific Fscast.

Mellissa Green


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Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


Hi,
I don't agree, it is new version, it must be installed beta first, which
can use authorization from 14, this will be updated, but not from 14 to 15.
this wasn't never in 13 and 12, when new update process was introduced.


 
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From:   "David Ferrin" 
To: ,
Date:   09/09/2013 09:50 AM
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Sent by:"JAWS-Users-List" 



So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS
version
installed.

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, Sep

Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Eric Damery]

Regarding the installation of the public beta for 15...
You have to first install the new SMA versions before the auto update feature 
works. So version 14 looks for version 14 updates only.

Once the beta is installed, we intend on each update, including the release, to 
be detected via Auto Updates going forward.

Regards,
Eric Damery

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Monday, September 9, 2013 3:50 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update, 
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a 
simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in 
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version 
installed.

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


> Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is 
> installed then future updates along with the full version will come 
> down using check for updates, but not before.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in 
> short no.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes 
> available.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> QWill there be a special link to download the beta?
>
>
>
> It's been a while.
>
>
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] problems downloading fs cast

[BlindLee55]

when i try to download it  i get a message  it cant be  found
 
your friend  lee  

 
In a message dated 9/8/2013 8:17:16 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
florl...@iol.ie writes:

Enter on  the podcast link. navigate, and then when you come to the mp3 
file link do  a Save Target As on  that.

- Original Message - 
From:  "john melia" 
To:  
Sent: Saturday, September 07, 2013  3:49 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problems downloading fs cast


>I  have a windows 7 machine with office 2010  the problem when I try to  
>down
> load the fs cast it tells me save target the web page not  just the 
> link what
> am I doing wrong or what setting do I need  to change.  Oh yes I am 
> using
> internet  explorer.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Dialup @ 56k]

Beta releases to all and sundry?
IMO, this isn't a good idea.
In the wider community, beta testers are selected because of previous 
experience in such matters.
A simple vested interest isn't usually enough for one to qualify for 
such testing.

Maybe it's different with FS?
Glen


***
On 09-Sep-2013 5:50 PM, David Ferrin wrote:

So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version
installed.

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release



Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is
installed
then future updates along with the full version will come down using
check
for updates, but not before.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in
short
no.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?

Mellissa Green


@GreenNovelist


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes
available.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-

From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On

Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

QWill there be a special link to download the beta?



It's been a while.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[Marek Durila]

Hi,
I don't agree, it is new version, it must be installed beta first, which
can use authorization from 14, this will be updated, but not from 14 to 15.
this wasn't never in 13 and 12, when new update process was introduced.


 
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From:   "David Ferrin" 
To: ,
Date:   09/09/2013 09:50 AM
Subject:Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
Sent by:"JAWS-Users-List" 



So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS
version
installed.

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


> Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is
> installed
> then future updates along with the full version will come down using
> check
> for updates, but not before.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have
> evolved from

Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

[David Ferrin]

So you're saying that JAWS 15 will show up in my 14 window as an update,
interesting. I stand corrected.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Flor Lynch
Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 9:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release

David.
Sorry, but for the past couple of years, I do recall that the beta shows in
JAWS updates when it is available, if you have the current full JAWS version
installed.

- Original Message -
From: "David Ferrin" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release


> Nothing has changed for a long time. No doubt once the beta is 
> installed
> then future updates along with the full version will come down using 
> check
> for updates, but not before.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from
> a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 6:28 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> I thought they'd changed that. Maybe I misheard.
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 6:10 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> That only applies to a program already installed on your system, so in 
> short
> no.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from
> a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 4:01 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> Thanks. Will it also be in the Check for updates?
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>>On
> Behalf Of David Ferrin
> Sent: Sunday, September 8, 2013 3:47 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> The link for the beta will be open to everybody when the page becomes
> available.
>
> David Ferrin
> A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have 
> evolved from
> a simpler system that worked perfectly.
>
>
> -Original Message-
>>From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>>On
> Behalf Of Nicole Valicia Thompson-Andrews
> Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 3:23 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Beta Release
>
> QWill there be a special link to download the beta?
>
>
>
> It's been a while.
>
>
>
> Mellissa Green
>
>
>
>
>
> @GreenNovelist
>
>
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