Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Vipre Antivirus

2014-07-22 Thread Mike Boyd


Hello Mario,

Yes, Vipre can be a little cumbersome at times, but for the most part, it is 
very easy to use. I am afraid that I am not a scripter, so please don't 
expect anything out of me in that area. Ha Ha. I have been using Vipre for 
so long, I am glad to hear that it is becoming more popular with the blind 
community. I hope that it continues to work well for you.


Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- 
From: Mario Brusco

Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus

I also have Vipre Internet Security 2014, but find that I need to use the
JAWS cursor to review a bit to get an idea what I need to do. I find it a
bit disorientated in the settings tab for scanning. I wonder if there's a
bit of scripting that can deal with this issue. I hope it's clear as to what
I'm trying to say. Somebody should make some scripts that facilitate the
areas where the JAWS cursor is needed.

I'm not really complaining (or maybe I am), but VIS seems to be the most
accessible than other Internet security programs.

I also wonder if I do encounter a virus or other malware, what Vipre will do
and how JAWS will react in regards to interfacing with the alert.
- Original Message - 
From: Mike Boyd blindb...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus



I have been using Vipre Internet Security with JAWS since it first came out
on the market. Back then, when you bought the software, it was good for the
life of the computer, and I still have the same one. So, because of this, I
get the latest upgrade every year, so I now am running the 2014 version. It
works great, and is the most accessible anti virus software that I have ever
seen. All parts of it are accessible with JAWS, I use JAWS 15, and it is
simple to set up the scan schedule, which you can set it up to scan every
day if you wanted to and choose between a quick scan or a deep scan. A
manual scan is also easy to perform as is setting up the firewall to block
or allow all sorts of things. I recommend this software to anyone who asks.

Best,
Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- 
From: Sachin

Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 7:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus

Hi all, can anyone say which version of vipre is more accessible with
Jaws?I am using Win7  J14.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] NeroJaws

2014-07-22 Thread Sachin

I am not asking about Nero burning Rom but Nero sweet


On 7/22/2014 11:22 AM, Shane Hecker wrote:

The latest version of Nero, in particular Nero Burnin Rom works nicely.

Shane

On 7/21/2014 11:41 PM, Sachin wrote:
Hi all, Can anyone say which version of Nero is more accessible with 
Jaws?  Now I am using Win7J14


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[JAWS-Users] Google Chrome Jaws

2014-07-22 Thread Sachin

Hi everyone, Can I disable automatic updating in Google Chrome

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Re: [JAWS-Users] dragging and dropping

2014-07-22 Thread David Maynard
I usually do a copy and paste, But the following may give you some ideas.
It is the instructions I saved from somewhere to move items on the task bar.

Good luck

Drag  Drop on the TaskBar


you can drag them to another location using the Jaws cursor:
1. Move to the program's button that you want to move.
2. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws Cursor to the PC cursor,
and then press Insert + Numpad Slash to lock the left mouse button, in other
words, start holding it down.
3. Press Numpad Plus to switch back to using the PC cursor, and then press
either Left Arrow or Right Arrow the number of times which is the number of
positions which you want to move the program either to the left or right
respectively. This moves the PC cursor to the position where you want the
program to end up.
4. Press Insert + Numpad Minus to route the Jaws cursor to the PC cursor,
and press Insert + Numpad Slash to unlock the left mouse button, in other
words, stop holding it down.
5. Finally, press Numpad Plus to switch back to the PC cursor.

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Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] dragging and dropping

Hi, I did read somewhere, and can't remember where, that it is possible to
actually drag and drop using jaws. I think this is what Joann is referring
to, not cutting/copying and pasting. When one is on a website where you are
trying to select something and can't do it because you have to drag
something and drop it into your cart or whatever, can you actually drag and
drop with jaws? If so, can someone explain how from the beginning? Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Vipre Antivirus

2014-07-22 Thread Mario Brusco
ditto.

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Carrillo kierro...@hotmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus


Vippre internet security includes anti-virus. I do not know why they offer 
the other option. internet security is the one that I recommened since it 
includes everything.

Eric Carrillo
Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 21, 2014, at 12:57 PM, Petro Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net 
 wrote:

 Hi Mike
 You are using Vipre Internet Security program and not the Vipre AntiVirus
 program is this correct?


 - Original Message - 
 From: Mike Boyd blindb...@comcast.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus



 I have been using Vipre Internet Security with JAWS since it first came 
 out
 on the market. Back then, when you bought the software, it was good for 
 the
 life of the computer, and I still have the same one. So, because of this, 
 I
 get the latest upgrade every year, so I now am running the 2014 version. 
 It
 works great, and is the most accessible anti virus software that I have 
 ever
 seen. All parts of it are accessible with JAWS, I use JAWS 15, and it is
 simple to set up the scan schedule, which you can set it up to scan every
 day if you wanted to and choose between a quick scan or a deep scan. A
 manual scan is also easy to perform as is setting up the firewall to block
 or allow all sorts of things. I recommend this software to anyone who 
 asks.

 Best,
 Mike
 blindb...@comcast.net

 -Original Message- 
 From: Sachin
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 7:04 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus

 Hi all, can anyone say which version of vipre is more accessible with
 Jaws?I am using Win7  J14.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] NeroJaws

2014-07-22 Thread Mario Brusco
can burning rom be purchased on it's own? and are scripts needed/available 
(if I want the scripts anyway, where can I get them)?


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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NeroJaws


The latest version of Nero, in particular Nero Burnin Rom works nicely.

Shane

On 7/21/2014 11:41 PM, Sachin wrote:
 Hi all, Can anyone say which version of Nero is more accessible with
 Jaws?  Now I am using Win7J14

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Vipre Antivirus

2014-07-22 Thread Mario Brusco
Mike, I think the manufacturers will continue to keep it screen reader 
friendly because they are conscious of it. not only blind end users use it 
but some businesses who have blind employees use the business packages made 
by GFI.

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Boyd blindb...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus



Hello Mario,

Yes, Vipre can be a little cumbersome at times, but for the most part, it is
very easy to use. I am afraid that I am not a scripter, so please don't
expect anything out of me in that area. Ha Ha. I have been using Vipre for
so long, I am glad to hear that it is becoming more popular with the blind
community. I hope that it continues to work well for you.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- 
From: Mario Brusco
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus

I also have Vipre Internet Security 2014, but find that I need to use the
JAWS cursor to review a bit to get an idea what I need to do. I find it a
bit disorientated in the settings tab for scanning. I wonder if there's a
bit of scripting that can deal with this issue. I hope it's clear as to what
I'm trying to say. Somebody should make some scripts that facilitate the
areas where the JAWS cursor is needed.

I'm not really complaining (or maybe I am), but VIS seems to be the most
accessible than other Internet security programs.

I also wonder if I do encounter a virus or other malware, what Vipre will do
and how JAWS will react in regards to interfacing with the alert.
- Original Message - 
From: Mike Boyd blindb...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus



I have been using Vipre Internet Security with JAWS since it first came out
on the market. Back then, when you bought the software, it was good for the
life of the computer, and I still have the same one. So, because of this, I
get the latest upgrade every year, so I now am running the 2014 version. It
works great, and is the most accessible anti virus software that I have ever
seen. All parts of it are accessible with JAWS, I use JAWS 15, and it is
simple to set up the scan schedule, which you can set it up to scan every
day if you wanted to and choose between a quick scan or a deep scan. A
manual scan is also easy to perform as is setting up the firewall to block
or allow all sorts of things. I recommend this software to anyone who asks.

Best,
Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- 
From: Sachin
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 7:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus

Hi all, can anyone say which version of vipre is more accessible with
Jaws?I am using Win7  J14.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome Jaws

2014-07-22 Thread Mario Brusco
I don't think so. I believe Google is wanting to keep Chrome users up to 
date and safe as they are fixing bugs as they become aware of them. the 
chrome browser also updates a special version of Flash that is sandboxed. if 
someone knows otherwise, please let us know.

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:33 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome  Jaws


Hi everyone, Can I disable automatic updating in Google Chrome

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[JAWS-Users] jaws keystrokes for chrome

2014-07-22 Thread Tom Clary
 does anyone know of a list of jaws shortcut keystrokes while using
google chrome?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome Jaws

2014-07-22 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
Can you elaborate a bit more about this flash and sandbox.

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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome  Jaws


I don't think so. I believe Google is wanting to keep Chrome users up to
date and safe as they are fixing bugs as they become aware of them. the
chrome browser also updates a special version of Flash that is sandboxed. if
someone knows otherwise, please let us know.

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To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:33 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome  Jaws


Hi everyone, Can I disable automatic updating in Google Chrome

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[JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

2014-07-22 Thread Gerald Levy

Recently, I have begun to experience problems accessing Amazon.com using IE 8 
with JAWS 9 (or JAWS 13 in demo mode, for that matter) and XP.  If I type a 
search phrase into the search edit field on the Amazon.com home page, the 
search results page comes up just fine.  But sometimes, when I click on one of 
the search results to learn more about a particular product, JAWS suddenly goes 
silent, and the page does not load completely.  I then have to launch NVDA to 
close the stuck page with Windows Task Manager, which usually, but not always 
restores JAWS to speech.  Once JAWS starts speaking again , I can unload NVDA.  
If I try to access Amazon.com using Firefox 29, I cannot locate any search edit 
field on the home page like I can with IE.  Indeed, with Firefox, there appears 
to be no search edit field at all on the Amazon.com home page, and the only way 
to access a search field is to click on the link for accessing the version of 
Amazon.com optimized for screen readers.  But I don't l
 ike this optimized version of Amazon.com, because the results page leaves out 
a lot of information I am interested in, like overall review ratings for each 
product.  Is there any way to locate the search edit field on the Amazon.com 
home page using Firefox, or otherwise access the same normal home page with 
Firefox that comes up when I access it with IE?  Thanks for any feedback.

Gerald 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

2014-07-22 Thread Steve

Gerald,

I have occasionally had the same issue with Amazon and Jaws, where the page 
fails to display and hangs Jaws.  I have seen it with my IE11 version as 
well.


I, unfortunately, can't help you with Firefox.  I don't recall not seeing 
the search box with Firefox.  I am using Firefox 30 with Jaws 15 on a 
Windows 7 machine now.


Just I guess confirming that your experience with Amazon is not an isolated 
one.  The only problem is that I can never get it to repeat reliably.


Steve
Lansing, MI

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From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com




Recently, I have begun to experience problems accessing Amazon.com using 
IE 8 with JAWS 9 (or JAWS 13 in demo mode, for that matter) and XP.  If I 
type a search phrase into the search edit field on the Amazon.com home 
page, the search results page comes up just fine.  But sometimes, when I 
click on one of the search results to learn more about a particular 
product, JAWS suddenly goes silent, and the page does not load completely. 
I then have to launch NVDA to close the stuck page with Windows Task 
Manager, which usually, but not always restores JAWS to speech.  Once JAWS 
starts speaking again , I can unload NVDA.  If I try to access Amazon.com 
using Firefox 29, I cannot locate any search edit field on the home page 
like I can with IE.  Indeed, with Firefox, there appears to be no search 
edit field at all on the Amazon.com home page, and the only way to access 
a search field is to click on the link for accessing the version of 
Amazon.com optimized for screen readers.  But I don't like this optimized 
version of Amazon.com, because the results page leaves out a lot of 
information I am interested in, like overall review ratings for each 
product.  Is there any way to locate the search edit field on the 
Amazon.com home page using Firefox, or otherwise access the same normal 
home page with Firefox that comes up when I access it with IE?  Thanks for 
any feedback.


Gerald

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

2014-07-22 Thread Merv Keck
Hi,

I am using Jaws 15 and Internet Explorer 11. However, I surmise that these
tips may be helpful with other versions of both Jaws and Internet Explorer.
I cannot speak for Firefox, however, because I do not have it installed on
either one of my Windows 7 sixty four bit computers.

First of all, Amazon has begun to crowd it's pages with far too much
information. Between flash and graphical buttons and links it is very
difficult sometimes to navigate to the place you want to go.

The past forty days I have been updating our two bedroom two bathroom
apartment and I have been ordering items from Amazon almost every day. I use
the following navigational guidelines to speed up my browsing.

First, knowing that there will be about 350 links on the page including
pictures, I give it a chance to load. Then I press e to put me the search
dialog box. Once I type my keyword for which I am searching. For example
dining table. I give it another chance to load another page of too many
links and pictures and graphics after I have pressed enter. Now to the
individual who posed this question, I am not attempting to insult your
intelligence with baby steps. I am giving detailed instructions for anyone
who wants them but who is not as experienced with jaws or with Internet
Explorer as you no doubt are. Smile!

Anyway once this page of search results has been loaded I narrow down my
results because I am a Prime user. Even if you do not have Prime you can
benefit by the same keystrokes. I hit h2 and this will take me over to
heading 2 where Jaws will voice a selection of options that Amazon has such
as Prime  or if I do not want to eliminate Prime shipping I can further down
arrow and choose other options such as add ons  or color choices  or price
limits and so on. I can press enter on each choice and each time give Amazon
a few seconds for the page to load and then press h to cycle through my
options instead of arrowing through the very noisy page of hundreds of links
that sometimes freezes Jaws or even Internet Explorer.

Once I have found an item I want to look at more closely for example a
specific dining table I press enter and the page for that table will load
with another 200 links including pictures and graphical links. I can also
use the h to skip a bunch of amazon pushes for everything from Kindle
unlimited to Kindle fire to amazon phone etc. This will speed me through the
adds for what others who looked at this choice eventually purchased to the
reviews and the technical specifications which I really want to see and I
can go right to the combo box where I can select more than one of this item
and then arrow right down to add to cart.

This also allows me to skip their new little trick where they put one click
purchasing right below add to cart so that will get turned on and they can
sell me stuff automatically without me even knowing it if I am not very
careful.

And once I am done instead of playing around with the b over and over
where they try to sell me tons of other stuff that is claimed to be related
to what I just bought which is a bunch of crap, Laughs! I just hit Jaws very
useful Insert + F7 and choose My cart or whatever your cart happens to
be named. And then hit b and it will take you to proceed to checkout right
away. 

That will save you a whole lot of time which will keep your jaws and your
browser from freezing up with all the adds and extra links and extra
graphical buttons and ads that amazon has recently started adding.

HTH

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

2014-07-22 Thread Gerald Levy


Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems with Amazon.com.  I do a 
lot of shopping there, and the JAWS hanging problem is turning into a major 
nuisance.  When I access Amazon.com using Firefox 29, the first link at the 
top of the home page is for accessing the version of Amazon.com optimized 
for screen readers.  But whether I press E, or scroll down from the top of 
the page using the down arrow key, I cannot locate any search edit field. 
There are plenty of links for products that Amazon is trying to push, along 
with links to products I have recently viewed, but no way to search for a 
particular product of interest.  I suspect that Firefox recognizes JAWS and 
automatically suppresses the normal home page to force screen reader users 
to access the optimized home page on which there is a search edit field. 
But as I stated earlier, the optimized version of Amazon.com for screen 
readers leaves a lot to be desired.


Gerald


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From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com



Gerald,

I have occasionally had the same issue with Amazon and Jaws, where the 
page fails to display and hangs Jaws.  I have seen it with my IE11 version 
as well.


I, unfortunately, can't help you with Firefox.  I don't recall not seeing 
the search box with Firefox.  I am using Firefox 30 with Jaws 15 on a 
Windows 7 machine now.


Just I guess confirming that your experience with Amazon is not an 
isolated one.  The only problem is that I can never get it to repeat 
reliably.


Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - 
From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com




Recently, I have begun to experience problems accessing Amazon.com using 
IE 8 with JAWS 9 (or JAWS 13 in demo mode, for that matter) and XP.  If I 
type a search phrase into the search edit field on the Amazon.com home 
page, the search results page comes up just fine.  But sometimes, when I 
click on one of the search results to learn more about a particular 
product, JAWS suddenly goes silent, and the page does not load 
completely. I then have to launch NVDA to close the stuck page with 
Windows Task Manager, which usually, but not always restores JAWS to 
speech.  Once JAWS starts speaking again , I can unload NVDA.  If I try 
to access Amazon.com using Firefox 29, I cannot locate any search edit 
field on the home page like I can with IE.  Indeed, with Firefox, there 
appears to be no search edit field at all on the Amazon.com home page, 
and the only way to access a search field is to click on the link for 
accessing the version of Amazon.com optimized for screen readers.  But I 
don't like this optimized version of Amazon.com, because the results page 
leaves out a lot of information I am interested in, like overall review 
ratings for each product.  Is there any way to locate the search edit 
field on the Amazon.com home page using Firefox, or otherwise access the 
same normal home page with Firefox that comes up when I access it with 
IE?  Thanks for any feedback.


Gerald

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

2014-07-22 Thread Cathy
Okay, let me throw my 2 cents worth in here. I had difficulty on Saturday, 
with a mp3 down load. I really am tested by all the links which get in my 
way of what I am truly looking for...understand, they are trying to sell 
other products. However, I really had to fight to get all the pages-links 
and whatever to cooperate with me...and finally down load. I still do not 
know where to log out of Amazon. I wentt to my cloud storage and, logged 
out, there. Amazon is becoming more and more difficult to deal with, in my 
opinion.
C
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Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com



Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems with Amazon.com.  I do a
lot of shopping there, and the JAWS hanging problem is turning into a major
nuisance.  When I access Amazon.com using Firefox 29, the first link at the
top of the home page is for accessing the version of Amazon.com optimized
for screen readers.  But whether I press E, or scroll down from the top of
the page using the down arrow key, I cannot locate any search edit field.
There are plenty of links for products that Amazon is trying to push, along
with links to products I have recently viewed, but no way to search for a
particular product of interest.  I suspect that Firefox recognizes JAWS and
automatically suppresses the normal home page to force screen reader users
to access the optimized home page on which there is a search edit field.
But as I stated earlier, the optimized version of Amazon.com for screen
readers leaves a lot to be desired.

Gerald


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From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com


 Gerald,

 I have occasionally had the same issue with Amazon and Jaws, where the
 page fails to display and hangs Jaws.  I have seen it with my IE11 version
 as well.

 I, unfortunately, can't help you with Firefox.  I don't recall not seeing
 the search box with Firefox.  I am using Firefox 30 with Jaws 15 on a
 Windows 7 machine now.

 Just I guess confirming that your experience with Amazon is not an
 isolated one.  The only problem is that I can never get it to repeat
 reliably.

 Steve
 Lansing, MI

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:51 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com



 Recently, I have begun to experience problems accessing Amazon.com using
 IE 8 with JAWS 9 (or JAWS 13 in demo mode, for that matter) and XP.  If I
 type a search phrase into the search edit field on the Amazon.com home
 page, the search results page comes up just fine.  But sometimes, when I
 click on one of the search results to learn more about a particular
 product, JAWS suddenly goes silent, and the page does not load
 completely. I then have to launch NVDA to close the stuck page with
 Windows Task Manager, which usually, but not always restores JAWS to
 speech.  Once JAWS starts speaking again , I can unload NVDA.  If I try
 to access Amazon.com using Firefox 29, I cannot locate any search edit
 field on the home page like I can with IE.  Indeed, with Firefox, there
 appears to be no search edit field at all on the Amazon.com home page,
 and the only way to access a search field is to click on the link for
 accessing the version of Amazon.com optimized for screen readers.  But I
 don't like this optimized version of Amazon.com, because the results page
 leaves out a lot of information I am interested in, like overall review
 ratings for each product.  Is there any way to locate the search edit
 field on the Amazon.com home page using Firefox, or otherwise access the
 same normal home page with Firefox that comes up when I access it with
 IE?  Thanks for any feedback.

 Gerald

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

2014-07-22 Thread Cristóbal
Also, if you have access to the Flexible Web feature in newer version of
Jaws using it to clean up the Amazon page helps a lot. This is what I did to
get rid of all those advertisement frames and sponsored links and other
unnecessary clutter. This makes it much easier to get around Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 8:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

Hi,

I am using Jaws 15 and Internet Explorer 11. However, I surmise that these
tips may be helpful with other versions of both Jaws and Internet Explorer.
I cannot speak for Firefox, however, because I do not have it installed on
either one of my Windows 7 sixty four bit computers.

First of all, Amazon has begun to crowd it's pages with far too much
information. Between flash and graphical buttons and links it is very
difficult sometimes to navigate to the place you want to go.

The past forty days I have been updating our two bedroom two bathroom
apartment and I have been ordering items from Amazon almost every day. I use
the following navigational guidelines to speed up my browsing.

First, knowing that there will be about 350 links on the page including
pictures, I give it a chance to load. Then I press e to put me the search
dialog box. Once I type my keyword for which I am searching. For example
dining table. I give it another chance to load another page of too many
links and pictures and graphics after I have pressed enter. Now to the
individual who posed this question, I am not attempting to insult your
intelligence with baby steps. I am giving detailed instructions for anyone
who wants them but who is not as experienced with jaws or with Internet
Explorer as you no doubt are. Smile!

Anyway once this page of search results has been loaded I narrow down my
results because I am a Prime user. Even if you do not have Prime you can
benefit by the same keystrokes. I hit h2 and this will take me over to
heading 2 where Jaws will voice a selection of options that Amazon has such
as Prime  or if I do not want to eliminate Prime shipping I can further down
arrow and choose other options such as add ons  or color choices  or price
limits and so on. I can press enter on each choice and each time give Amazon
a few seconds for the page to load and then press h to cycle through my
options instead of arrowing through the very noisy page of hundreds of links
that sometimes freezes Jaws or even Internet Explorer.

Once I have found an item I want to look at more closely for example a
specific dining table I press enter and the page for that table will load
with another 200 links including pictures and graphical links. I can also
use the h to skip a bunch of amazon pushes for everything from Kindle
unlimited to Kindle fire to amazon phone etc. This will speed me through the
adds for what others who looked at this choice eventually purchased to the
reviews and the technical specifications which I really want to see and I
can go right to the combo box where I can select more than one of this item
and then arrow right down to add to cart.

This also allows me to skip their new little trick where they put one click
purchasing right below add to cart so that will get turned on and they can
sell me stuff automatically without me even knowing it if I am not very
careful.

And once I am done instead of playing around with the b over and over
where they try to sell me tons of other stuff that is claimed to be related
to what I just bought which is a bunch of crap, Laughs! I just hit Jaws very
useful Insert + F7 and choose My cart or whatever your cart happens to
be named. And then hit b and it will take you to proceed to checkout right
away. 

That will save you a whole lot of time which will keep your jaws and your
browser from freezing up with all the adds and extra links and extra
graphical buttons and ads that amazon has recently started adding.

HTH

Blind5sparrow

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] dragging and dropping

2014-07-22 Thread LeDon
A google search on drag and drop with jaws will bring up a set of
instructions.  Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario Brusco
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 6:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] dragging and dropping

oh. I thought it wasn't possible. I'd like to know how it is done step by
step too.
- Original Message -
From: Judy bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 6:18 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] dragging and dropping


Hi, I did read somewhere, and can't remember where, that it is possible to
actually drag and drop using jaws. I think this is what Joann is referring
to, not cutting/copying and pasting. When one is on a website where you are
trying to select something and can't do it because you have to drag
something and drop it into your cart or whatever, can you actually drag and
drop with jaws? If so, can someone explain how from the beginning? Thanks.
Judy  tallie







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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

2014-07-22 Thread Gerald Levy


All these suggestions are well and good, but can someone tell me where the 
heck the search edit field is located on the Amazon.com home page that comes 
up using Firefox?  I have tried to locate it nine ways to Sunday without 
success.  I hate the optimized version of Amazon.com for screen readers, 
which by the way, also happens to be the mobile version of Amazon.com for 
cell phone users.  Very frustrating.


Gerald


- Original Message - 
From: Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com



Also, if you have access to the Flexible Web feature in newer version of
Jaws using it to clean up the Amazon page helps a lot. This is what I did 
to

get rid of all those advertisement frames and sponsored links and other
unnecessary clutter. This makes it much easier to get around Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 8:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

Hi,

I am using Jaws 15 and Internet Explorer 11. However, I surmise that these
tips may be helpful with other versions of both Jaws and Internet 
Explorer.

I cannot speak for Firefox, however, because I do not have it installed on
either one of my Windows 7 sixty four bit computers.

First of all, Amazon has begun to crowd it's pages with far too much
information. Between flash and graphical buttons and links it is very
difficult sometimes to navigate to the place you want to go.

The past forty days I have been updating our two bedroom two bathroom
apartment and I have been ordering items from Amazon almost every day. I 
use

the following navigational guidelines to speed up my browsing.

First, knowing that there will be about 350 links on the page including
pictures, I give it a chance to load. Then I press e to put me the 
search

dialog box. Once I type my keyword for which I am searching. For example
dining table. I give it another chance to load another page of too many
links and pictures and graphics after I have pressed enter. Now to the
individual who posed this question, I am not attempting to insult your
intelligence with baby steps. I am giving detailed instructions for anyone
who wants them but who is not as experienced with jaws or with Internet
Explorer as you no doubt are. Smile!

Anyway once this page of search results has been loaded I narrow down my
results because I am a Prime user. Even if you do not have Prime you can
benefit by the same keystrokes. I hit h2 and this will take me over to
heading 2 where Jaws will voice a selection of options that Amazon has 
such
as Prime  or if I do not want to eliminate Prime shipping I can further 
down

arrow and choose other options such as add ons  or color choices  or price
limits and so on. I can press enter on each choice and each time give 
Amazon

a few seconds for the page to load and then press h to cycle through my
options instead of arrowing through the very noisy page of hundreds of 
links

that sometimes freezes Jaws or even Internet Explorer.

Once I have found an item I want to look at more closely for example a
specific dining table I press enter and the page for that table will load
with another 200 links including pictures and graphical links. I can also
use the h to skip a bunch of amazon pushes for everything from Kindle
unlimited to Kindle fire to amazon phone etc. This will speed me through 
the

adds for what others who looked at this choice eventually purchased to the
reviews and the technical specifications which I really want to see and I
can go right to the combo box where I can select more than one of this 
item

and then arrow right down to add to cart.

This also allows me to skip their new little trick where they put one 
click

purchasing right below add to cart so that will get turned on and they can
sell me stuff automatically without me even knowing it if I am not very
careful.

And once I am done instead of playing around with the b over and over
where they try to sell me tons of other stuff that is claimed to be 
related
to what I just bought which is a bunch of crap, Laughs! I just hit Jaws 
very

useful Insert + F7 and choose My cart or whatever your cart happens to
be named. And then hit b and it will take you to proceed to checkout 
right

away.

That will save you a whole lot of time which will keep your jaws and your
browser from freezing up with all the adds and extra links and extra
graphical buttons and ads that amazon has recently started adding.

HTH

Blind5sparrow





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

2014-07-22 Thread Shoshana Hathaway
Is this flexible web feature in J15?  I'm still running 14, but this could
induce me to get the higher version.  Shoshana


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

2014-07-22 Thread Blackwell, Clifford
It's also available in JAWS 14.  It can be a bit tricky to use, so I'd look at 
the JAWS help file to get started.  I think Jonathon Mosen also did an FS cast 
segment on it.

However you access the feature with inser + space bar and then the letter x.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Shoshana Hathaway
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

Is this flexible web feature in J15?  I'm still running 14, but this could 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Vipre Antivirus

2014-07-22 Thread Mike Boyd


Yes, I agree.

-Original Message- 
From: Mario Brusco

Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus

Mike, I think the manufacturers will continue to keep it screen reader
friendly because they are conscious of it. not only blind end users use it
but some businesses who have blind employees use the business packages made
by GFI.

- Original Message - 
From: Mike Boyd blindb...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus



Hello Mario,

Yes, Vipre can be a little cumbersome at times, but for the most part, it is
very easy to use. I am afraid that I am not a scripter, so please don't
expect anything out of me in that area. Ha Ha. I have been using Vipre for
so long, I am glad to hear that it is becoming more popular with the blind
community. I hope that it continues to work well for you.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- 
From: Mario Brusco

Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus

I also have Vipre Internet Security 2014, but find that I need to use the
JAWS cursor to review a bit to get an idea what I need to do. I find it a
bit disorientated in the settings tab for scanning. I wonder if there's a
bit of scripting that can deal with this issue. I hope it's clear as to what
I'm trying to say. Somebody should make some scripts that facilitate the
areas where the JAWS cursor is needed.

I'm not really complaining (or maybe I am), but VIS seems to be the most
accessible than other Internet security programs.

I also wonder if I do encounter a virus or other malware, what Vipre will do
and how JAWS will react in regards to interfacing with the alert.
- Original Message - 
From: Mike Boyd blindb...@comcast.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus



I have been using Vipre Internet Security with JAWS since it first came out
on the market. Back then, when you bought the software, it was good for the
life of the computer, and I still have the same one. So, because of this, I
get the latest upgrade every year, so I now am running the 2014 version. It
works great, and is the most accessible anti virus software that I have ever
seen. All parts of it are accessible with JAWS, I use JAWS 15, and it is
simple to set up the scan schedule, which you can set it up to scan every
day if you wanted to and choose between a quick scan or a deep scan. A
manual scan is also easy to perform as is setting up the firewall to block
or allow all sorts of things. I recommend this software to anyone who asks.

Best,
Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- 
From: Sachin

Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 7:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus

Hi all, can anyone say which version of vipre is more accessible with
Jaws?I am using Win7  J14.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] NeroJaws

2014-07-22 Thread Shane Hecker
I don't know if Nero Burnin Rom can be purchased separately or not. 
However I've never needed to have any scripting done for it. It works 
pretty well without needing any scripting.


Shane

On 7/22/2014 8:40 AM, Mario Brusco wrote:

can burning rom be purchased on it's own? and are scripts needed/available
(if I want the scripts anyway, where can I get them)?


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From: Shane Hecker shanehec...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 1:52 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] NeroJaws


The latest version of Nero, in particular Nero Burnin Rom works nicely.

Shane

On 7/21/2014 11:41 PM, Sachin wrote:

Hi all, Can anyone say which version of Nero is more accessible with
Jaws?  Now I am using Win7J14

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[JAWS-Users] Windows XP Outlook Express Mail

2014-07-22 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
When I recieve mail with Outlook Express using Windows XP I do not see the 
email address of the person who sent me the message but only their name. Is 
there a way to see their name along with their email address? The way I get 
their email address is view the email properties through Details tab and 
source. I copy and paste the email. Also I do not use the add contacts 
feature. 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Vipre Antivirus

2014-07-22 Thread Greg Wocher

Hello,
I have Vipre running on my Windows 7 laptop and I do have one issue with 
it. When I open the program all the settings buttons just read settings. 
They don't actually say what they are for. I am using JAWS 15.


Greg Wocher

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On 7/22/2014 9:45 AM, Mario Brusco wrote:

Mike, I think the manufacturers will continue to keep it screen reader
friendly because they are conscious of it. not only blind end users use it
but some businesses who have blind employees use the business packages made
by GFI.

- Original Message -
From: Mike Boyd blindb...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus



Hello Mario,

Yes, Vipre can be a little cumbersome at times, but for the most part, it is
very easy to use. I am afraid that I am not a scripter, so please don't
expect anything out of me in that area. Ha Ha. I have been using Vipre for
so long, I am glad to hear that it is becoming more popular with the blind
community. I hope that it continues to work well for you.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message-
From: Mario Brusco
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus

I also have Vipre Internet Security 2014, but find that I need to use the
JAWS cursor to review a bit to get an idea what I need to do. I find it a
bit disorientated in the settings tab for scanning. I wonder if there's a
bit of scripting that can deal with this issue. I hope it's clear as to what
I'm trying to say. Somebody should make some scripts that facilitate the
areas where the JAWS cursor is needed.

I'm not really complaining (or maybe I am), but VIS seems to be the most
accessible than other Internet security programs.

I also wonder if I do encounter a virus or other malware, what Vipre will do
and how JAWS will react in regards to interfacing with the alert.
- Original Message -
From: Mike Boyd blindb...@comcast.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus



I have been using Vipre Internet Security with JAWS since it first came out
on the market. Back then, when you bought the software, it was good for the
life of the computer, and I still have the same one. So, because of this, I
get the latest upgrade every year, so I now am running the 2014 version. It
works great, and is the most accessible anti virus software that I have ever
seen. All parts of it are accessible with JAWS, I use JAWS 15, and it is
simple to set up the scan schedule, which you can set it up to scan every
day if you wanted to and choose between a quick scan or a deep scan. A
manual scan is also easy to perform as is setting up the firewall to block
or allow all sorts of things. I recommend this software to anyone who asks.

Best,
Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message-
From: Sachin
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 7:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus

Hi all, can anyone say which version of vipre is more accessible with
Jaws?I am using Win7  J14.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Vipre Antivirus

2014-07-22 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
Another user on another mailing list has confirmed what you have  said. He 
said to leve these settings alone and all is good. This is all I know.

- Original Message - 
From: Greg Wocher icewolf2...@gtwebdesign.us
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 2:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus


Hello,
I have Vipre running on my Windows 7 laptop and I do have one issue with
it. When I open the program all the settings buttons just read settings.
They don't actually say what they are for. I am using JAWS 15.

Greg Wocher

Follow me on Twitter @GWocher

On 7/22/2014 9:45 AM, Mario Brusco wrote:
 Mike, I think the manufacturers will continue to keep it screen reader
 friendly because they are conscious of it. not only blind end users use it
 but some businesses who have blind employees use the business packages 
 made
 by GFI.

 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Boyd blindb...@comcast.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:31 AM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus



 Hello Mario,

 Yes, Vipre can be a little cumbersome at times, but for the most part, it 
 is
 very easy to use. I am afraid that I am not a scripter, so please don't
 expect anything out of me in that area. Ha Ha. I have been using Vipre for
 so long, I am glad to hear that it is becoming more popular with the blind
 community. I hope that it continues to work well for you.

 Mike
 blindb...@comcast.net

 -Original Message-
 From: Mario Brusco
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:47 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus

 I also have Vipre Internet Security 2014, but find that I need to use the
 JAWS cursor to review a bit to get an idea what I need to do. I find it a
 bit disorientated in the settings tab for scanning. I wonder if there's a
 bit of scripting that can deal with this issue. I hope it's clear as to 
 what
 I'm trying to say. Somebody should make some scripts that facilitate the
 areas where the JAWS cursor is needed.

 I'm not really complaining (or maybe I am), but VIS seems to be the most
 accessible than other Internet security programs.

 I also wonder if I do encounter a virus or other malware, what Vipre will 
 do
 and how JAWS will react in regards to interfacing with the alert.
 - Original Message -
 From: Mike Boyd blindb...@comcast.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 2:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus



 I have been using Vipre Internet Security with JAWS since it first came 
 out
 on the market. Back then, when you bought the software, it was good for 
 the
 life of the computer, and I still have the same one. So, because of this, 
 I
 get the latest upgrade every year, so I now am running the 2014 version. 
 It
 works great, and is the most accessible anti virus software that I have 
 ever
 seen. All parts of it are accessible with JAWS, I use JAWS 15, and it is
 simple to set up the scan schedule, which you can set it up to scan every
 day if you wanted to and choose between a quick scan or a deep scan. A
 manual scan is also easy to perform as is setting up the firewall to block
 or allow all sorts of things. I recommend this software to anyone who 
 asks.

 Best,
 Mike
 blindb...@comcast.net

 -Original Message-
 From: Sachin
 Sent: Monday, July 21, 2014 7:04 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws  Vipre Antivirus

 Hi all, can anyone say which version of vipre is more accessible with
 Jaws?I am using Win7  J14.

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[JAWS-Users] Avast!

2014-07-22 Thread Bob Edenhofer
Another great antivirus program, that I use is, avast! once you install it, you 
half to register the free version, and you’re good for 12 months, then you half 
to reregister with your name and email address and tab to the button that says 
register with email address, and the nice thing about avast 9.0 is, it doesn’t 
slow down your machine, not only that, it automaticly scans your machine in the 
background, and you don’t half to do nothing, just install it and leave it 
alone. And you can uninstall it with out going into safe mode.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP Outlook Express Mail

2014-07-22 Thread Flor Lynch
You can also see their email address a few lines from the top if you 
open a reply to their message (on or in the original message) with 
ctrl+r.


- Original Message - 
From: Petro Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:17 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP  Outlook Express Mail


When I recieve mail with Outlook Express using Windows XP I do not see 
the
email address of the person who sent me the message but only their 
name. Is
there a way to see their name along with their email address? The way 
I get
their email address is view the email properties through Details tab 
and

source. I copy and paste the email. Also I do not use the add contacts
feature.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP Outlook Express Mail

2014-07-22 Thread Mike B.
Hi Petro,

You can try the following:

1. With the email open, press, Alt + 1 on the number row, to make sure the
persons name is in the, From field.
2. If it's there press, Alt + 1, twice quickly.  Pressing, Alt + 1 twice
quickly brings the focus to the from field.
3. Press the home key to move the cursor to the beginning of the line,
press, shift + End key, that's the E N D key, to select the text from the
cursor to the end of the line,  copy this to the clipboard.  I.e,

Petro Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net


After copying the Name / email address, it does not have to be edited at 
all.  You do not need to remove the less or greater signs.
4. Now paste this into the, To, field of a new email or reply, go to the 
message body, put in your message,  send as usual.

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Petro Giannakopoulos
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:17 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP  Outlook Express Mail


When I recieve mail with Outlook Express using Windows XP I do not see the
email address of the person who sent me the message but only their name. Is
there a way to see their name along with their email address? The way I get
their email address is view the email properties through Details tab and
source. I copy and paste the email. Also I do not use the add contacts
feature.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

2014-07-22 Thread Judy
Gerald, just one comment. I use the version of Amazon for screen readers, as
I refuse to go through all that was just described. For each product I
choose there is a link for customer reviews and I read all of them, so I
don't imnderstand your comment about not having product reviews, they are
there. It can be a bit scanty on some info for some things, that is true,
but so far for what I buy it is fine for me and better for my blood
pressure. (smile)  Judy  Tallie

 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com


Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems with Amazon.com.  I do a

lot of shopping there, and the JAWS hanging problem is turning into a major 
nuisance.  When I access Amazon.com using Firefox 29, the first link at the 
top of the home page is for accessing the version of Amazon.com optimized 
for screen readers.  But whether I press E, or scroll down from the top of

the page using the down arrow key, I cannot locate any search edit field. 
There are plenty of links for products that Amazon is trying to push, along 
with links to products I have recently viewed, but no way to search for a 
particular product of interest.  I suspect that Firefox recognizes JAWS and 
automatically suppresses the normal home page to force screen reader users 
to access the optimized home page on which there is a search edit field. 
But as I stated earlier, the optimized version of Amazon.com for screen 
readers leaves a lot to be desired.

Gerald


- Original Message - 
From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com


 Gerald,

 I have occasionally had the same issue with Amazon and Jaws, where the 
 page fails to display and hangs Jaws.  I have seen it with my IE11 version

 as well.

 I, unfortunately, can't help you with Firefox.  I don't recall not seeing 
 the search box with Firefox.  I am using Firefox 30 with Jaws 15 on a 
 Windows 7 machine now.

 Just I guess confirming that your experience with Amazon is not an 
 isolated one.  The only problem is that I can never get it to repeat 
 reliably.

 Steve
 Lansing, MI

 - Original Message - 
 From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:51 AM
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com



 Recently, I have begun to experience problems accessing Amazon.com using 
 IE 8 with JAWS 9 (or JAWS 13 in demo mode, for that matter) and XP.  If I

 type a search phrase into the search edit field on the Amazon.com home 
 page, the search results page comes up just fine.  But sometimes, when I 
 click on one of the search results to learn more about a particular 
 product, JAWS suddenly goes silent, and the page does not load 
 completely. I then have to launch NVDA to close the stuck page with 
 Windows Task Manager, which usually, but not always restores JAWS to 
 speech.  Once JAWS starts speaking again , I can unload NVDA.  If I try 
 to access Amazon.com using Firefox 29, I cannot locate any search edit 
 field on the home page like I can with IE.  Indeed, with Firefox, there 
 appears to be no search edit field at all on the Amazon.com home page, 
 and the only way to access a search field is to click on the link for 
 accessing the version of Amazon.com optimized for screen readers.  But I 
 don't like this optimized version of Amazon.com, because the results page

 leaves out a lot of information I am interested in, like overall review 
 ratings for each product.  Is there any way to locate the search edit 
 field on the Amazon.com home page using Firefox, or otherwise access the 
 same normal home page with Firefox that comes up when I access it with 
 IE?  Thanks for any feedback.

 Gerald

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Avast!

2014-07-22 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
I have it running on my Windows XP machine since Microsoft Security 
Essentials stopped supporting Windows XP. Have you had to uninstall Avast in 
the past and this is how you know it doesn't have to be done via safe mode?


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From: Bob Edenhofer bob.edenho...@gmail.com
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:38 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Avast!


Another great antivirus program, that I use is, avast! once you install it, 
you half to register the free version, and you’re good for 12 months, then 
you half to reregister with your name and email address and tab to the 
button that says register with email address, and the nice thing about avast 
9.0 is, it doesn’t slow down your machine, not only that, it automaticly 
scans your machine in the background, and you don’t half to do nothing, just 
install it and leave it alone. And you can uninstall it with out going into 
safe mode.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP Outlook Express Mail

2014-07-22 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
Yes this works ctrl+r but not for all messages. Some of the messages when I 
do the ctrl+r the To: field just shows the person's name and not the email 
address. Strange indeed.

- Original Message - 
From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP  Outlook Express Mail


You can also see their email address a few lines from the top if you
open a reply to their message (on or in the original message) with
ctrl+r.

- Original Message - 
From: Petro Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:17 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP  Outlook Express Mail


 When I recieve mail with Outlook Express using Windows XP I do not see
 the
 email address of the person who sent me the message but only their
 name. Is
 there a way to see their name along with their email address? The way
 I get
 their email address is view the email properties through Details tab
 and
 source. I copy and paste the email. Also I do not use the add contacts
 feature.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP Outlook Express Mail

2014-07-22 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
Mike
You are a treasure worth of information. Your tip worked. See below. The 
alt+1 and then alt+1 twice and the rest of your steps. Never seen this tip 
before.
Thank you.
The resulting tip gave me your email address shown below which I couldn't 
get sometimes.
Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net

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From: Mike B. mb69ma...@charter.net
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP  Outlook Express Mail


Hi Petro,

You can try the following:

1. With the email open, press, Alt + 1 on the number row, to make sure the
persons name is in the, From field.
2. If it's there press, Alt + 1, twice quickly.  Pressing, Alt + 1 twice
quickly brings the focus to the from field.
3. Press the home key to move the cursor to the beginning of the line,
press, shift + End key, that's the E N D key, to select the text from the
cursor to the end of the line,  copy this to the clipboard.  I.e,

Petro Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net


After copying the Name / email address, it does not have to be edited at
all.  You do not need to remove the less or greater signs.
4. Now paste this into the, To, field of a new email or reply, go to the
message body, put in your message,  send as usual.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Petro Giannakopoulos
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:17 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP  Outlook Express Mail


When I recieve mail with Outlook Express using Windows XP I do not see the
email address of the person who sent me the message but only their name. Is
there a way to see their name along with their email address? The way I get
their email address is view the email properties through Details tab and
source. I copy and paste the email. Also I do not use the add contacts
feature.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

2014-07-22 Thread Gerald Levy


Yes, the customer reviews are listed on the details page for each product 
returned on the results page using the screen reader-optimized version of 
Amazon.com.  But the results page itself does not contain overall review 
ratings for each product, like on the normal version of Amazon.com.  So 
there is no quick way to get an idea of a product's rating without clicking 
on its details page for more information, which is a royal pain.  And the 
optimized version only contains five results per page, and there is no way 
to increase this number.  Finally, the optimized version does not have 
headings for each product on the results page, which makes navigation 
somewhat more cumbersome.  Although the optimized version of Amazon.com is 
certainly usable, it is not really useful for my purposes, and I much prefer 
the normal, full version.


Gerald


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From: Judy bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com


Gerald, just one comment. I use the version of Amazon for screen readers, 
as

I refuse to go through all that was just described. For each product I
choose there is a link for customer reviews and I read all of them, so I
don't imnderstand your comment about not having product reviews, they are
there. It can be a bit scanty on some info for some things, that is true,
but so far for what I buy it is fine for me and better for my blood
pressure. (smile)  Judy  Tallie



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:53 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com


Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one having problems with Amazon.com.  I do 
a


lot of shopping there, and the JAWS hanging problem is turning into a 
major
nuisance.  When I access Amazon.com using Firefox 29, the first link at 
the

top of the home page is for accessing the version of Amazon.com optimized
for screen readers.  But whether I press E, or scroll down from the top 
of


the page using the down arrow key, I cannot locate any search edit field.
There are plenty of links for products that Amazon is trying to push, 
along

with links to products I have recently viewed, but no way to search for a
particular product of interest.  I suspect that Firefox recognizes JAWS 
and

automatically suppresses the normal home page to force screen reader users
to access the optimized home page on which there is a search edit field.
But as I stated earlier, the optimized version of Amazon.com for screen
readers leaves a lot to be desired.

Gerald


- Original Message - 
From: Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com



Gerald,

I have occasionally had the same issue with Amazon and Jaws, where the
page fails to display and hangs Jaws.  I have seen it with my IE11 
version



as well.

I, unfortunately, can't help you with Firefox.  I don't recall not seeing
the search box with Firefox.  I am using Firefox 30 with Jaws 15 on a
Windows 7 machine now.

Just I guess confirming that your experience with Amazon is not an
isolated one.  The only problem is that I can never get it to repeat
reliably.

Steve
Lansing, MI

- Original Message - 
From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 10:51 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com




Recently, I have begun to experience problems accessing Amazon.com using
IE 8 with JAWS 9 (or JAWS 13 in demo mode, for that matter) and XP.  If 
I



type a search phrase into the search edit field on the Amazon.com home
page, the search results page comes up just fine.  But sometimes, when I
click on one of the search results to learn more about a particular
product, JAWS suddenly goes silent, and the page does not load
completely. I then have to launch NVDA to close the stuck page with
Windows Task Manager, which usually, but not always restores JAWS to
speech.  Once JAWS starts speaking again , I can unload NVDA.  If I try
to access Amazon.com using Firefox 29, I cannot locate any search edit
field on the home page like I can with IE.  Indeed, with Firefox, there
appears to be no search edit field at all on the Amazon.com home page,
and the only way to access a search field is to click on the link for
accessing the version of Amazon.com optimized for screen readers.  But I
don't like this optimized version of Amazon.com, because the results 
page



leaves out a lot of information I am interested in, like overall review
ratings for each product.  Is there any way to locate the search edit
field on the Amazon.com home page using Firefox, or otherwise access the
same normal home page with Firefox that comes up when I access it 

[JAWS-Users] Avast!

2014-07-22 Thread Bob Edenhofer
Yes, that’s correct, I’ve tested it, and it works just fine, are you having any 
trouble with it?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP Outlook Express Mail

2014-07-22 Thread Flor Lynch
If you have 'automatically put people I reply to in my Address Book 
checked, their email address will appear there as you tab through their 
entry. Different email programs produce different email behaviours when 
writing names and email addresses, and indeed, it is possible to have a 
different display name shown than that which includes the address line.


- Original Message - 
From: Petro Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP  Outlook Express Mail


Yes this works ctrl+r but not for all messages. Some of the messages 
when I
do the ctrl+r the To: field just shows the person's name and not the 
email

address. Strange indeed.

- Original Message - 

From: Flor Lynch florl...@iol.ie

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP  Outlook Express Mail


You can also see their email address a few lines from the top if you
open a reply to their message (on or in the original message) with
ctrl+r.

- Original Message - 

From: Petro Giannakopoulos petro...@clear.net

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 6:17 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows XP  Outlook Express Mail


When I recieve mail with Outlook Express using Windows XP I do not 
see

the
email address of the person who sent me the message but only their
name. Is
there a way to see their name along with their email address? The way
I get
their email address is view the email properties through Details tab
and
source. I copy and paste the email. Also I do not use the add 
contacts

feature.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

2014-07-22 Thread Mike Boyd


When I acceess Amazon through my Firefox 30, it is just where it is in IE. 
Which is right below the section where you access My Account, My Cart, 
and I don't know why, but the Go button is now above the search field. But 
Amazon works fine through the Firefox that I have installed on my computer, 
just as it does through Internet Explorer 11. It is Amazon's design changes 
that have screwed up their web site. As for you not being able to find the 
search field at all, I am sorry, but I don't know.


Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 9:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com


All these suggestions are well and good, but can someone tell me where the
heck the search edit field is located on the Amazon.com home page that comes
up using Firefox?  I have tried to locate it nine ways to Sunday without
success.  I hate the optimized version of Amazon.com for screen readers,
which by the way, also happens to be the mobile version of Amazon.com for
cell phone users.  Very frustrating.

Gerald


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From: Cristóbal crismuno...@gmail.com

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com



Also, if you have access to the Flexible Web feature in newer version of
Jaws using it to clean up the Amazon page helps a lot. This is what I did 
to

get rid of all those advertisement frames and sponsored links and other
unnecessary clutter. This makes it much easier to get around Amazon.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Merv Keck
Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 8:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.com

Hi,

I am using Jaws 15 and Internet Explorer 11. However, I surmise that these
tips may be helpful with other versions of both Jaws and Internet 
Explorer.

I cannot speak for Firefox, however, because I do not have it installed on
either one of my Windows 7 sixty four bit computers.

First of all, Amazon has begun to crowd it's pages with far too much
information. Between flash and graphical buttons and links it is very
difficult sometimes to navigate to the place you want to go.

The past forty days I have been updating our two bedroom two bathroom
apartment and I have been ordering items from Amazon almost every day. I 
use

the following navigational guidelines to speed up my browsing.

First, knowing that there will be about 350 links on the page including
pictures, I give it a chance to load. Then I press e to put me the 
search

dialog box. Once I type my keyword for which I am searching. For example
dining table. I give it another chance to load another page of too many
links and pictures and graphics after I have pressed enter. Now to the
individual who posed this question, I am not attempting to insult your
intelligence with baby steps. I am giving detailed instructions for anyone
who wants them but who is not as experienced with jaws or with Internet
Explorer as you no doubt are. Smile!

Anyway once this page of search results has been loaded I narrow down my
results because I am a Prime user. Even if you do not have Prime you can
benefit by the same keystrokes. I hit h2 and this will take me over to
heading 2 where Jaws will voice a selection of options that Amazon has 
such
as Prime  or if I do not want to eliminate Prime shipping I can further 
down

arrow and choose other options such as add ons  or color choices  or price
limits and so on. I can press enter on each choice and each time give 
Amazon

a few seconds for the page to load and then press h to cycle through my
options instead of arrowing through the very noisy page of hundreds of 
links

that sometimes freezes Jaws or even Internet Explorer.

Once I have found an item I want to look at more closely for example a
specific dining table I press enter and the page for that table will load
with another 200 links including pictures and graphical links. I can also
use the h to skip a bunch of amazon pushes for everything from Kindle
unlimited to Kindle fire to amazon phone etc. This will speed me through 
the

adds for what others who looked at this choice eventually purchased to the
reviews and the technical specifications which I really want to see and I
can go right to the combo box where I can select more than one of this 
item

and then arrow right down to add to cart.

This also allows me to skip their new little trick where they put one 
click

purchasing right below add to cart so that will get turned on and they can
sell me stuff automatically without me even knowing it if I am not very
careful.

And once I am done instead of playing around with the b over and over
where they try to sell me tons of other stuff that is claimed to be 
related
to what I just bought which is a bunch of 

[JAWS-Users] Amazon!

2014-07-22 Thread Bob Edenhofer
What I would do in this case, is contact FS tech support about this, and 
explain the problem, then I’d contact the world wide web consordium about this 
matter, they are in charge of getting these companies to make there website 
accessible for blind people like ourselves with screenreaders, and especially 
for people with disibilities. 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Avast!

2014-07-22 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
Bob
Thank you for this info. No problems with Avast yet. I have read some 
antivirus programs have to be uninstalled via safe mode and was not sure 
with Avast until you said it today that i does not need to go thru the safe 
mode process to be uninstalled. This is good to know.


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Yes, that’s correct, I’ve tested it, and it works just fine, are you having 
any trouble with it?

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[JAWS-Users] Avast!

2014-07-22 Thread Bob Edenhofer
Whitch version are you running, is it 9.0 the latest one?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Avast!

2014-07-22 Thread Petro Giannakopoulos
I have Avast 9.0+
Did a insert+ctrl+v with Avast in focus to get the version number.
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Whitch version are you running, is it 9.0 the latest one?

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[JAWS-Users] Avast

2014-07-22 Thread Mike Boyd

Bob,

Being that I cannot seem to access anything at all in Avast. How do I Activate 
it? Just curious.

Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Avast!

2014-07-22 Thread Mike Boyd


Bob,

Being that I cannot seem to access anything in Avast, how does one activate 
the software?


Mike
blindb...@comcast.net

-Original Message- 
From: Bob Edenhofer

Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2014 3:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Avast!

Yes, that’s correct, I’ve tested it, and it works just fine, are you having 
any trouble with it?


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[JAWS-Users] Problems Accessing Amazon.

2014-07-22 Thread Mark D. Dodd
Hello!

Problems Accessing Amazon.  

Amazon looking Folgers and FoodSaver, don't work.

Internet Explorer, Tool, Internet Options, Advance Tab, Show Picture it's
On.

But, spacebar, Show Picture it's Off.

And, Apply, Ok.

Looking Folgers and FoodSaver, it's working.

Mark



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