Re: [JAWS-Users] MailChimp

[Michael Babcock]

I use AWeber that is user friendly on the Mac; i’ve not tried them on windows.
http://empb1.aweber.com/ 
the above link is an affiliate link try AWeber out for 30 days for free to see 
if it’s more friendly then mail chimp. Personally i found mail chimp to be two 
confusing.
NOTE, AWeber is not free after the first 30 days. It’s $19 if you have 500 
subscribers or less. 501 to 2500 subscribers is $29 a month.


> On Mar 5, 2016, at 7:41 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Another popular service is constant Comcast.  I don't know any blind users 
> and my wife says it is confusing 
> These type of programs might be good candidates for jaws 17 web scripting. 
> 
> 
> Jonathan Cohn 
> 
>> On Mar 3, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Reed Poynter  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have a requirement to send bulk e-mails.  Anyone found something that
>> works with screen-reading software?
>> 
>> I have been looking at MailChimp and am finding it very difficult to use.
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Reed
>> 
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>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

[David Moore]

Hi David,
Yes, please post the Google Chrome tutorial as well. Thanks a lot. Have a 
great one.



-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 7:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

I noticed your message giving me permission to post your WLM guide, thank
you. I see it is not overly large so I can post it. I could also post your
chrome recording if you are all right with that as well.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Moore" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws


Hi all,
Here is the tutorial for all of you that a friend gave me on using Windows
Live Mail with JAWS and win10
It is a Drop Box link, but you do not need Drop Box to download this
tutorial. Just press enter on the link below, and you can download it right
to your computer. Here is the link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/906tpubt9trxxbq/DemonstrationOnWindowsLiveMailForDavidMoore.mp3?dl=1

-Original Message- 
From: dooi...@frontier.com

Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Hello David,
I would greatly appreciate a copy of this.

Respectfully,

Dooie



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Janie Degenshein
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 18:06
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

another one here please
jdege...@comcast.net

-Original Message-
From: Mario
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 8:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

David, I'd appreciate a copy too, please. send it to mrb...@hotmail.com



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 4:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Hi,
WLM 2012 is the best and works great on win10 with JAWS 16 and 17. I
have a tutorial that covers everything from downloading it to
customising it to work best with JAWS. Let me know if you want it. Have a

great one.



-Original Message-
From: inamuddin
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

I can recommend WLM for you.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1


-Original Message-
From: Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Hey guys, currently I'm using windows 7 and jaws 15 but I have a new
laptop running windows 10 with the last version of jaws 17.
I haven't updated to the latest jaws 17 because I've been told it
doesn't work properly with windows 10.  Right now I have no problems
but I would like to start using email on the new laptop.  What do you
all recommend for an email client with this version of windows and jaws.
Regards
Zoe

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"Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have"
Facilitator of ECHO
(Eyes Closed Hearts Open)
President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Senior Division
President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Technology
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Re: [JAWS-Users] MailChimp

[Jonathan Cohn]

Another popular service is constant Comcast.  I don't know any blind users and 
my wife says it is confusing 
These type of programs might be good candidates for jaws 17 web scripting. 


Jonathan Cohn 

> On Mar 3, 2016, at 3:59 PM, Reed Poynter  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> 
> 
> I have a requirement to send bulk e-mails.  Anyone found something that
> works with screen-reading software?
> 
> I have been looking at MailChimp and am finding it very difficult to use.
> Any suggestions?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> 
> Reed
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[wayne smith]

Thanks!  This is filling our inboxes with spam and it is not helpful.  We
need to handle things as adults.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Moderator
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 3:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Enough already!
No more of this bantering back and forth, take it off-list!

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "David Moore" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi all,
The instructions I gave Rose were my own words. I did not have Jim's
materials in front of me to change a word or two. I have a great great
memory. Should it be held against me that I can remember in my head what Jim
says in his tutorials. It is coming straight out of my head. What am I
supposed to do? Am I supposed to pull up Jim's writings and try not to put
it in his words? Yes, Jim taught me well, but I am not purposely rephrasing
what he says. I am just saying what comes to my head and that is all. If
what Jim says comes from my head, what am I supposed to do. Am I supposed to
not have a memory? How can I help what comes out of my head? I am not doing
anything on purpose! I am just helping people with the information I know.
Isn't that petty that Jim is so concerned with having credit for his work
that he does not want to help blind people? Why is Jim assuming that I am
copying his work? Have a great one.


-Original Message- 
From: Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message- 
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, and you can change most of your 

Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

[David Ferrin]

I noticed your message giving me permission to post your WLM guide, thank 
you. I see it is not overly large so I can post it. I could also post your 
chrome recording if you are all right with that as well.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from 
a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Moore" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 6:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws


Hi all,
Here is the tutorial for all of you that a friend gave me on using Windows
Live Mail with JAWS and win10
It is a Drop Box link, but you do not need Drop Box to download this
tutorial. Just press enter on the link below, and you can download it right
to your computer. Here is the link.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/906tpubt9trxxbq/DemonstrationOnWindowsLiveMailForDavidMoore.mp3?dl=1

-Original Message- 
From: dooi...@frontier.com
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Hello David,
I would greatly appreciate a copy of this.

Respectfully,

Dooie



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Janie Degenshein
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 18:06
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

another one here please
jdege...@comcast.net

-Original Message-
From: Mario
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 8:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

David, I'd appreciate a copy too, please. send it to mrb...@hotmail.com


> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of David Moore
> Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 4:29 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws
>
> Hi,
> WLM 2012 is the best and works great on win10 with JAWS 16 and 17. I
> have a tutorial that covers everything from downloading it to
> customising it to work best with JAWS. Let me know if you want it. Have a
great one.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: inamuddin
> Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 2:43 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws
>
> I can recommend WLM for you.
> With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
> charlsdarwin1
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Zoe Fiogkos
> Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws
>
> Hey guys, currently I'm using windows 7 and jaws 15 but I have a new
> laptop running windows 10 with the last version of jaws 17.
> I haven't updated to the latest jaws 17 because I've been told it
> doesn't work properly with windows 10.  Right now I have no problems
> but I would like to start using email on the new laptop.  What do you
> all recommend for an email client with this version of windows and jaws.
> Regards
> Zoe
>
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"Happiness isn't having what you want, but wanting what you already have"
Facilitator of ECHO
(Eyes Closed Hearts Open)
President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Senior Division
President, National Federation of the Blind of New Jersey Technology
Division NFBNJ newsline coordinator jdege...@comcast.net

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[JAWS-Users] enough with the fighting already

[David Ferrin]

I have had it up to my desktop already today with all of this bickering, 
bashing and all around bad behavior.

A man can't go to a hockey game without worrying he is going to find a war 
zone when he checks his email. This stops right now or the list goes down 
for a week to give everybody some time to cool off. We are all supposed to 
be adults on here but in some cases that is not true.

Maybe a better idea would simply be start hitting the eject button, I know 
Bob loves to do that so much we often have to hold him back.

Either way I just don't care, stop acting like children or no more recess.

Rick has asked nicely, now I am demanding, knock it off, I don't like 
wasting my time writing such long and annoying email messages but days like 
today happen and so goes life.
David Ferrin
. 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

[David Moore]

Hi all,
Here is the link for the WLM tutorial a friend gave me. It is a Drop Box 
link, but you do not need Drop Box to download this tutorial. Just enter on 
the link below, and you can download it right to your computer. Here is the 
link.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/906tpubt9trxxbq/DemonstrationOnWindowsLiveMailForDavidMoore.mp3?dl=1

-Original Message- 
From: Tim Ford

Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 11:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

I would also like that very much.  Please email to me:  ttf...@gmail.com

Tim Ford


-Original Message- 
From: Zoe Fiogkos

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 3:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Yes please I would like the tutorial any help sounds fantastic.
Regards
Zoe

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: March-04-16 4:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

I don't know about anybody else but I'd like to give it a listen.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from

a simpler system that worked perfectly.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Moore" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws


Hi,
WLM 2012 is the best and works great on win10 with JAWS 16 and 17. I have a
tutorial that covers everything from downloading it to customising it to
work best with JAWS. Let me know if you want it. Have a great one.


-Original Message- 
From: inamuddin

Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

I can recommend WLM for you.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1


-Original Message- 
From: Zoe Fiogkos

Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Hey guys, currently I'm using windows 7 and jaws 15 but I have a new laptop
running windows 10 with the last version of jaws 17.
I haven't updated to the latest jaws 17 because I've been told it doesn't
work properly with windows 10.  Right now I have no problems but I would
like to start using email on the new laptop.  What do you all recommend for
an email client with this version of windows and jaws.
Regards
Zoe

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Jim]

Hi David,
You said,"Isn't that petty that Jim is so concerned with having credit for 
his work

that he does not want to help blind people?"
First of all you are wrong in your name calling and your judging of me.
I set my group up for the sole purpose of helping the blind computer user of 
w-10 with Jaws.
and I freely provided all the text of my work to this list as well as to 
mine.
You on the other hand have done nothing! you only copy my work and take 
credit for it because you like the attention from others because of it.

So, this is the last time I will mention you any more.
I am not going to waist any more of my precious time arguing with a 
knucklehead like you.

My sole reason for my group is to help the blind computer user.
But I will not sit back and let you put me down because you are jealous of 
my work.

So, come up with your own original work and leave mine alone.
You are not the one who spent months preparing my tutorials, you have done 
nothing.

I enjoy doing them, I do not enjoy people like you taking credit for them.
Good luck in your false dilutions of helping others.
I am glad that I taught you so well that you were able to memorize my entire 
guide!LOL.




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi all,
The instructions I gave Rose were my own words. I did not have Jim's
materials in front of me to change a word or two. I have a great great
memory. Should it be held against me that I can remember in my head what Jim
says in his tutorials. It is coming straight out of my head. What am I
supposed to do? Am I supposed to pull up Jim's writings and try not to put
it in his words? Yes, Jim taught me well, but I am not purposely rephrasing
what he says. I am just saying what comes to my head and that is all. If
what Jim says comes from my head, what am I supposed to do. Am I supposed to
not have a memory? How can I help what comes out of my head? I am not doing
anything on purpose! I am just helping people with the information I know.
Isn't that petty that Jim is so concerned with having credit for his work
that he does not want to help blind people? Why is Jim assuming that I am
copying his work? Have a great one.


-Original Message- 
From: Jim

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message- 
From: Jim

Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with 

Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

[David Moore]

Hi all,
Here is the tutorial for all of you that a friend gave me on using Windows 
Live Mail with JAWS and win10
It is a Drop Box link, but you do not need Drop Box to download this 
tutorial. Just press enter on the link below, and you can download it right 
to your computer. Here is the link.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/906tpubt9trxxbq/DemonstrationOnWindowsLiveMailForDavidMoore.mp3?dl=1

-Original Message- 
From: dooi...@frontier.com

Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 9:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Hello David,
I would greatly appreciate a copy of this.

Respectfully,

Dooie



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Janie Degenshein
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 18:06
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

another one here please
jdege...@comcast.net

-Original Message-
From: Mario
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 8:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

David, I'd appreciate a copy too, please. send it to mrb...@hotmail.com



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 4:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Hi,
WLM 2012 is the best and works great on win10 with JAWS 16 and 17. I
have a tutorial that covers everything from downloading it to
customising it to work best with JAWS. Let me know if you want it. Have a

great one.



-Original Message-
From: inamuddin
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

I can recommend WLM for you.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1


-Original Message-
From: Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Hey guys, currently I'm using windows 7 and jaws 15 but I have a new
laptop running windows 10 with the last version of jaws 17.
I haven't updated to the latest jaws 17 because I've been told it
doesn't work properly with windows 10.  Right now I have no problems
but I would like to start using email on the new laptop.  What do you
all recommend for an email client with this version of windows and jaws.
Regards
Zoe

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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

[Kevin]

You can press Windows key+R to get the run dialog box, then, in the run
edit field, type in
"control userpasswords2",
without the quotes, and press
enter.

In the resulting dialog box, uncheck the box that says, users must type a
password to use this computer, and make sure it's unchecked.

Tab to the ok button, and press enter or the spacebar.

You'll receive a dialog box prompting you to select the default user and to
enter the password associated with that user.

Once you select and type in the default username and password, tab to the ok
button, and press the spacebar.

At this point, you can close the userpasswords2 dialog box, if it's still
open, or  unless you want to make more advanced modifications in one of the
other tabs, and from that point onwards, it should boot directly into the
desktop.

Keep in mind that if you have User Control turned on, it will prompt you to
press the yes button if you want to allow the action.



-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 2:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

I too would like to go to the desk top when the computer boots.
Unfortunately I tried this suggestion and that option was not present under
the navigation tab in in task bar properties.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: david

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 4:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

hello;
if you want your windows 10 to load directly on to the desktop,

you need to go into, ctrl panel,
taskbar properties,
now, go to navigation,
now tab until you hear;
“When I sign in, go to the Desktop instead of the Start Screen”
this box needs to be checked.
note, you can type control into the search edit field instead of going to
control panel.

-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

No password box for me, when I boot this lil guy.

First thing I see is the start menue and I'm in the edit box to search.
The navigation tab in the properties is where I made that change but can't
remember if it were for 8.1, 8, or windows 7. Lol.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 4:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Hi,
Actually goes to the password edit box first if you have one, Then, the
desktop, If, you tab a couple times you should run into the recycle bin.

The answer is yes, I have not heard of the other stuff you posted,
It's been straight to the desktop from day one. Maybe you mean windows +I
for settings? Jorge






-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Does this still exist in windows 10. It used to be I think navigation pane
in the taskbar properties.

Mine lands on the start menu.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Highlight Using the Shift Arrow Keys

[Lynn White]

Oh yeah.  Several times.  I'll run the repair.  May have to call FS next 
week.


On 3/5/2016 4:23 PM, Adrian Spratt wrote:

Have you rebooted since you noticed this problem? If not, maybe a JAWS repair 
is needed. I'm still with Win7, but these are the two steps I've taken when the 
shift key stops setting up the copy function. Why this is a JAWS problem isn't 
clear to me, but I've found that getting JAWS right has always fixed it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Lynn White
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 5:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Highlight Using the Shift Arrow Keys

Hmmm!  Well, for some reason, it doesn't work.

Thanks for responding and if you have any other ideas how to fix this,
thanks in advance.

On 3/5/2016 2:06 PM, Jim wrote:

For now in w-10 use the latest Jaws 16.
Jaws 17 will read the status of the various buttons in the settings
area incorrectly in w-10.
You will think a button is turned on when in fact it is turned off.
You will think a button is turned off when in fact it is turned on.
As far as highlighting and copying text.
It works the same way it did in w-7.
For example:
Shift+down arrow, to select a line.
Insert key+shift+right arrow to select a word.
And so on.
I hope this helps...






Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you
with good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be
spiritually balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens
where God sits.
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-Original Message- From: Lynn White
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't Highlight Using the Shift Arrow Keys

I just upgraded from Windows 7 and Jaws 16 to Windows 10 Jaws 17.

How do you highlight anything without using the control shift arrows any
longer?  Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

[David Moore]

Hi,
This is David Moore. I would not be opposed to giving any of my tutorials to 
David Faren to post. Have a great one.



-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 2:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Would david moor be opposed to giving david f liberties of posting the
tutorial on his site?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Geno9802
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

David More, please, Geno would like a copy of this please.
geno9...@gmail.com
Many thanks in advance.
Geno in appreciation

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 4:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Hi,
WLM 2012 is the best and works great on win10 with JAWS 16 and 17. I have a
tutorial that covers everything from downloading it to customising it to
work best with JAWS. Let me know if you want it. Have a great one.


-Original Message-
From: inamuddin
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

I can recommend WLM for you.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1


-Original Message-
From: Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Hey guys, currently I'm using windows 7 and jaws 15 but I have a new laptop
running windows 10 with the last version of jaws 17.
I haven't updated to the latest jaws 17 because I've been told it doesn't
work properly with windows 10.  Right now I have no problems but I would
like to start using email on the new laptop.  What do you all recommend for
an email client with this version of windows and jaws.
Regards
Zoe

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Questions and some help in how to use it!

[Pinky]

Hi Helga,
I would like to make a suggestion to you, Helga, If you want to learn W10 I
really recommend you join this group called Windows 10 and Jaws. It is an
excellent group for learning w10. Jim the list owner has 38 audio and text
files on customizing and setting up Windows 10 for Jaws. The text files are
step by step and very easy to follow along. Jim's audio files are excellent
and take you through step by step how to customize and setup W10. The only
way to get these free audio and text files is to join this group. How can
you beat the price. It's free. Below is the link to join the Windows 10 and
Jaws group.
Subscribe :
windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

Hope to see you there.

Ed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Helga Schreiber
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:54 AM
To: JAWSUsers Mailing list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Questions and some help in how to use it!

Hi all! This is Helga! How are you all? The subject line says it all! I want
to learn how to use Windows 10. Do you have any  tutorials and podcasts or
guides that can teach me how to operated with JAWS! And Braille displays!
The reason I'm asking is because my boyfriend got his  windows HP computer
and he is  running Windows 10 on it. However, he does not have JAWS yet on
it, he iwll buy JAWS 16 or 17 soon!  He is actually deaf and blind and he
will use a Focus 40 blue braille display connected to it! I unfortunately
don't have  Windows 10 or JAWS  16 or 17. I have windows 8 and   Running
JAWS 14 on it!  I just want to teach him how  to  use! It! An one last
thing, i call freedom scientific and I ask them if they have JAWS 16, but
they told me that they only sell JAWS 17. Is that true? If so,  Can anyone
here provide me withe steps   in how can I download  the demo of JAWs 17 or
16 on my windows computer? I will really appreciate it a lot!  Feel free to
contact me off list regardin
 g this matter since I don't want to clutter the list! I look forward in
hearing form yous oon. Thanks and God bless!!

Helga Schreiber 

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Students.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Highlight Using the Shift Arrow Keys

[Adrian Spratt]

Have you rebooted since you noticed this problem? If not, maybe a JAWS repair 
is needed. I'm still with Win7, but these are the two steps I've taken when the 
shift key stops setting up the copy function. Why this is a JAWS problem isn't 
clear to me, but I've found that getting JAWS right has always fixed it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Lynn White
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 5:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Highlight Using the Shift Arrow Keys

Hmmm!  Well, for some reason, it doesn't work.

Thanks for responding and if you have any other ideas how to fix this, 
thanks in advance.

On 3/5/2016 2:06 PM, Jim wrote:
> For now in w-10 use the latest Jaws 16.
> Jaws 17 will read the status of the various buttons in the settings 
> area incorrectly in w-10.
> You will think a button is turned on when in fact it is turned off.
> You will think a button is turned off when in fact it is turned on.
> As far as highlighting and copying text.
> It works the same way it did in w-7.
> For example:
> Shift+down arrow, to select a line.
> Insert key+shift+right arrow to select a word.
> And so on.
> I hope this helps...
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
> reaching His goal.
> Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you 
> with good health.
> Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be 
> spiritually balanced with wealth.
> Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens 
> where God sits.
> Jim
> -Original Message- From: Lynn White
> Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:49 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't Highlight Using the Shift Arrow Keys
>
> I just upgraded from Windows 7 and Jaws 16 to Windows 10 Jaws 17.
>
> How do you highlight anything without using the control shift arrows any
> longer?  Thanks.
>
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[David Moore]

Hi Rose,
No problem. I told someone else I would send them the WLM tutorial. Have a 
great one, and I wish you the best with learning win10. Have a great one.



-Original Message- 
From: Rose Combs

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 5:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I don't see the tutorial, but I am on my way to making some necessary
changes.  I'd prefer to read this kind of stuff anyway!  Thank you though!


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Rose,
What I have for you is my own recorded tutorial, Not Jim's tutorial. I was
getting ready to send it to you, But I had to address the issue of Jim's
post to Richard that was incorrect. Here is my tutorial. I hope you learn a
lot from it.


-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Rose,
I just sent you a TXT copy of my guide in a email directly to you.
Hopefully this will help you.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I just installed Windows 10, or rather it happened when my hard disk drive
died.  I have tried to get the guide so I can customize but when I tried to
download it, it seemed not to happen, and doing a search took me to the web
with loads of sites, none appropriate.  It is not like Windows 7, trust me,
when I tried to look in one download folder that came up it appeared to be
all images I could do nothing with, the other one showed only two things,
and I know the tech said he deleted anything he did not recognize, including
legitimate files.
E-mail works the same, and I did get IE to be the default.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[David Moore]

Hi Rose,
I am having trouble getting the WLM tutorial to upload to my Drop Box 
account. Since you use Outlook, I will not worry about it. I thought you 
wanted a tutorial that I did with liv
mail. I got you confused with someone else. Sorry about that. I was helping 
you yesterday with win10 on the list. Have a great one.


-Original Message- 
From: Rose Combs

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 5:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I use Outlook 2010, and if necessary will upgrade office later.  Never a fan
of WLM.  If you are attaching files they are not making it.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Rose,
I  have to put the tutorial for WLM in my Drop Box folder, and wait for it
to upload to my account. I will send you a Drop Box link, but you do not
need Drop Box to download the tutorial. You can just enter on the link and
download this tutorial. This is my own recorded tutorial, and I go over
everything from start to finish with WLM. Have a great one.


-Original Message- 
From: Rose Combs

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I just installed Windows 10, or rather it happened when my hard disk drive
died.  I have tried to get the guide so I can customize but when I tried to
download it, it seemed not to happen, and doing a search took me to the web
with loads of sites, none appropriate.  It is not like Windows 7, trust me,
when I tried to look in one download folder that came up it appeared to be
all images I could do nothing with, the other one showed only two things,
and I know the tech said he deleted anything he did not recognize, including
legitimate files.
E-mail works the same, and I did get IE to be the default.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Rose Combs]

I received only your e-mail, no instructions but it is OK.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi all,
The instructions I gave Rose were my own words. I did not have Jim's 
materials in front of me to change a word or two. I have a great great 
memory. Should it be held against me that I can remember in my head what Jim

says in his tutorials. It is coming straight out of my head. What am I 
supposed to do? Am I supposed to pull up Jim's writings and try not to put 
it in his words? Yes, Jim taught me well, but I am not purposely rephrasing 
what he says. I am just saying what comes to my head and that is all. If 
what Jim says comes from my head, what am I supposed to do. Am I supposed to

not have a memory? How can I help what comes out of my head? I am not doing 
anything on purpose! I am just helping people with the information I know. 
Isn't that petty that Jim is so concerned with having credit for his work 
that he does not want to help blind people? Why is Jim assuming that I am 
copying his work? Have a great one.


-Original Message- 
From: Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message- 
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, and you can change most of your settings in the nine groups of
settings that you can right arrow through until you get to the group you
want. One of the first things you should do, is press enter on the system
settings group and arrow to default programs. Press enter and tab through
and press the space bar on Internet. It will say that Edge is your default
browser, 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Highlight Using the Shift Arrow Keys

[Lynn White]

Hmmm!  Well, for some reason, it doesn't work.

Thanks for responding and if you have any other ideas how to fix this, 
thanks in advance.


On 3/5/2016 2:06 PM, Jim wrote:

For now in w-10 use the latest Jaws 16.
Jaws 17 will read the status of the various buttons in the settings 
area incorrectly in w-10.

You will think a button is turned on when in fact it is turned off.
You will think a button is turned off when in fact it is turned on.
As far as highlighting and copying text.
It works the same way it did in w-7.
For example:
Shift+down arrow, to select a line.
Insert key+shift+right arrow to select a word.
And so on.
I hope this helps...






Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you 
with good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be 
spiritually balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens 
where God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- From: Lynn White
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't Highlight Using the Shift Arrow Keys

I just upgraded from Windows 7 and Jaws 16 to Windows 10 Jaws 17.

How do you highlight anything without using the control shift arrows any
longer?  Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

[T. Civitello]

I too would like to go to the desk top when the computer boots. 
Unfortunately I tried this suggestion and that option was not present under 
the navigation tab in in task bar properties.  Tom


-Original Message- 
From: david

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 4:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

hello;
if you want your windows 10 to load directly on to the desktop,

you need to go into, ctrl panel,
taskbar properties,
now, go to navigation,
now tab until you hear;
“When I sign in, go to the Desktop instead of the Start Screen”
this box needs to be checked.
note, you can type control into the search edit field instead of going to
control panel.

-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

No password box for me, when I boot this lil guy.

First thing I see is the start menue and I'm in the edit box to search.
The navigation tab in the properties is where I made that change but can't
remember if it were for 8.1, 8, or windows 7. Lol.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 4:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Hi,
Actually goes to the password edit box first if you have one, Then, the
desktop, If, you tab a couple times you should run into the recycle bin.

The answer is yes, I have not heard of the other stuff you posted,
It's been straight to the desktop from day one. Maybe you mean windows +I
for settings? Jorge






-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Does this still exist in windows 10. It used to be I think navigation pane
in the taskbar properties.

Mine lands on the start menu.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Rose Combs]

I use Outlook 2010, and if necessary will upgrade office later.  Never a fan
of WLM.  If you are attaching files they are not making it.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Rose,
I  have to put the tutorial for WLM in my Drop Box folder, and wait for it 
to upload to my account. I will send you a Drop Box link, but you do not 
need Drop Box to download the tutorial. You can just enter on the link and 
download this tutorial. This is my own recorded tutorial, and I go over 
everything from start to finish with WLM. Have a great one.


-Original Message- 
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I just installed Windows 10, or rather it happened when my hard disk drive
died.  I have tried to get the guide so I can customize but when I tried to
download it, it seemed not to happen, and doing a search took me to the web
with loads of sites, none appropriate.  It is not like Windows 7, trust me,
when I tried to look in one download folder that came up it appeared to be
all images I could do nothing with, the other one showed only two things,
and I know the tech said he deleted anything he did not recognize, including
legitimate files.
E-mail works the same, and I did get IE to be the default.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Rose Combs]

I don't see the tutorial, but I am on my way to making some necessary
changes.  I'd prefer to read this kind of stuff anyway!  Thank you though!  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Rose,
What I have for you is my own recorded tutorial, Not Jim's tutorial. I was
getting ready to send it to you, But I had to address the issue of Jim's
post to Richard that was incorrect. Here is my tutorial. I hope you learn a
lot from it.


-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Rose,
I just sent you a TXT copy of my guide in a email directly to you.
Hopefully this will help you.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I just installed Windows 10, or rather it happened when my hard disk drive
died.  I have tried to get the guide so I can customize but when I tried to
download it, it seemed not to happen, and doing a search took me to the web
with loads of sites, none appropriate.  It is not like Windows 7, trust me,
when I tried to look in one download folder that came up it appeared to be
all images I could do nothing with, the other one showed only two things,
and I know the tech said he deleted anything he did not recognize, including
legitimate files.
E-mail works the same, and I did get IE to be the default.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Rose Combs]

Thank you, read it but have not tried anything just yet.  Will get there.  
Using Jaws 17 on this computer, not sure what will work or not, they should
have an update very soon.  \
I just don't want to go to the trouble for 16 unless I can't fix things.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Rose,
I just sent you a TXT copy of my guide in a email directly to you.
Hopefully this will help you.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: Rose Combs
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I just installed Windows 10, or rather it happened when my hard disk drive
died.  I have tried to get the guide so I can customize but when I tried to
download it, it seemed not to happen, and doing a search took me to the web
with loads of sites, none appropriate.  It is not like Windows 7, trust me,
when I tried to look in one download folder that came up it appeared to be
all images I could do nothing with, the other one showed only two things,
and I know the tech said he deleted anything he did not recognize, including
legitimate files.
E-mail works the same, and I did get IE to be the default.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Moderator]

Enough already!
No more of this bantering back and forth, take it off-list!

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "David Moore" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi all,
The instructions I gave Rose were my own words. I did not have Jim's
materials in front of me to change a word or two. I have a great great
memory. Should it be held against me that I can remember in my head what Jim
says in his tutorials. It is coming straight out of my head. What am I
supposed to do? Am I supposed to pull up Jim's writings and try not to put
it in his words? Yes, Jim taught me well, but I am not purposely rephrasing
what he says. I am just saying what comes to my head and that is all. If
what Jim says comes from my head, what am I supposed to do. Am I supposed to
not have a memory? How can I help what comes out of my head? I am not doing
anything on purpose! I am just helping people with the information I know.
Isn't that petty that Jim is so concerned with having credit for his work
that he does not want to help blind people? Why is Jim assuming that I am
copying his work? Have a great one.


-Original Message- 
From: Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message- 
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, and you can change most of your settings in the nine groups of
settings that you can right arrow through until you get to the group you
want. One of the first things you should do, is press enter on the system
settings group and arrow to default programs. Press enter and tab through
and press the space bar on Internet. It will say that Edge is your default
browser, but 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[David Moore]

Hi Rose,
That is cool! If I can be of any help to you, just let me know.


-Original Message- 
From: Rose Combs

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 4:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

At this point I would feel more comfortable reading, can go at my own speed,
audio is often too lengthy for me to stick with but when I tried to download
the files had no luck!  I don't know if it did not come down or it did and
is lost on my computer!


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Mike,
My complete guide that I freely share with this list is all the TXT
information I have written down so far.
As far as my OneDrive group download page, this is for my w-10 and Jaws
Yahoo group only.
I have 32 audio tutorials on using w-10 with Jaws and other programs like
WLM.
Below is a complete list of my group's tutorials.
Yes, I will help any way that I can on this list, but I have to preserve my
OneDrive group download page for my group members.
If I open it to the public, there is a good chance that Microsoft will limit

the downloads that are taken from it.
This would prevent my members from having 24/7 access to it.
So, I am not being selfish, just trying to keep resources available to my
group.
There's nothing wrong with me wanting people to join my group.
My group is a teaching and learning group along with answering questions and

troubleshooting problems that people are having with w-10 and Jaws.
You don't understand, my audio files are 30 to 60 minutes long.
David said they are too big to put on his Jaws users web site.
I also devote a small section of my group to poetry and Christian writings,
written by me and my members.
We have a second OneDrive group download page for these, members are free to

share these poetry and Bible writings with anyone.
Here is a current list of my tutorials for my group and the subscribe link
as well.
Come over and check us out, you don't need to be using w-10 right now, this
will help prepare you.
About the w-10 and Jaws Yahoo group, TXT.
Control panel and security, audio.
Customizing w-10 with Jaws, new audio.
Device manager, audio.
Devices and printers, audio.
How to delete the Windows.old folder, audio.
Maintenance tips for w-10 and Jaws, Audio.
Narrator keystrokes, TXT.
Navigating w-10 with Jaws 1, new Audio.
Navigating w-10 with Jaws 2, new Audio.
Rules for the Windows 10 & Jaws  group TXT.
Settings area in w-10 with Jaws, TXT.
Settings area, new part 1, audio.
Settings area, new part 2, audio.
Settings area, new part 3, audio.
Sound card Window and more audio.
Upgrading to W-10 with Jaws, TXT.
Using Bookshare and F S Reader with Jaws, Audio.
Using file explorer, audio.
Using iTunes with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using iTunes with Jaws, Audio 2.
Using Jaws window and help, Audio.
Using Mcafee with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using mcafee with Jaws, audio 2.
Using Narrator with w-10, Audio.
Using NFB Newsline with Jaws, audio 1.
Using NFB Newsline with Jaws, audio 2.
Using ninite.com to install programs.
Using quick access in w-10, audio.
Using the bing search in w-10, audio.
Using the F S website with Jaws, Audio.
Using the Notification area, new, audio.
Using the Start area, new, audio.
Using the troubleshooters in w-10, audio.
Using Windows Live Mail with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using Windows live mail with Jaws audio 2.
Using Windows live mail with Jaws audio 3.
Windows 10 and Jaws, Complete Guide, TXT.
Subscribe address:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where

God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Mike B

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Jim,

That was very kind of you to let Mr. Ferrin put your Jaws guide for Windows
10 on the Jaws-Users website.  1 thing I've noticed is that you don't share
anything relating to Jaws & Windows 10 with this list anymore.  Like, this
WLM tutorial.  I don't know what happened to make you stop sharing all your
great tutorials with this list, but you used to post the link to your Google
Drive for everyone to view, but not anymore.  You said earlier,

"I am one who gives his time and effort freely to the blind community."

Does this mean as long as the blind community is a member of your list?

What David Moore has done is totally wrong, but does everyone else have to
suffer because of his selfishness?  Personally, I've really enjoyed reading
your posts' & taking notes 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[David Moore]

Hi all,
The instructions I gave Rose were my own words. I did not have Jim's 
materials in front of me to change a word or two. I have a great great 
memory. Should it be held against me that I can remember in my head what Jim 
says in his tutorials. It is coming straight out of my head. What am I 
supposed to do? Am I supposed to pull up Jim's writings and try not to put 
it in his words? Yes, Jim taught me well, but I am not purposely rephrasing 
what he says. I am just saying what comes to my head and that is all. If 
what Jim says comes from my head, what am I supposed to do. Am I supposed to 
not have a memory? How can I help what comes out of my head? I am not doing 
anything on purpose! I am just helping people with the information I know. 
Isn't that petty that Jim is so concerned with having credit for his work 
that he does not want to help blind people? Why is Jim assuming that I am 
copying his work? Have a great one.



-Original Message- 
From: Jim

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 10:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message- 
From: Jim

Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, and you can change most of your settings in the nine groups of
settings that you can right arrow through until you get to the group you
want. One of the first things you should do, is press enter on the system
settings group and arrow to default programs. Press enter and tab through
and press the space bar on Internet. It will say that Edge is your default
browser, but tab to Internet Explorer and press the space bar on that. IE
will now be your default browser. I would install VLC media player for audio
and video. Once you do that, go back to default apps and press the space bar
on audio and tab to VLC and press space on that, and do the same for audio.
Next, you really want to 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Rose Combs]

At this point I would feel more comfortable reading, can go at my own speed,
audio is often too lengthy for me to stick with but when I tried to download
the files had no luck!  I don't know if it did not come down or it did and
is lost on my computer!  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 12:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Mike,
My complete guide that I freely share with this list is all the TXT 
information I have written down so far.
As far as my OneDrive group download page, this is for my w-10 and Jaws 
Yahoo group only.
I have 32 audio tutorials on using w-10 with Jaws and other programs like 
WLM.
Below is a complete list of my group's tutorials.
Yes, I will help any way that I can on this list, but I have to preserve my 
OneDrive group download page for my group members.
If I open it to the public, there is a good chance that Microsoft will limit

the downloads that are taken from it.
This would prevent my members from having 24/7 access to it.
So, I am not being selfish, just trying to keep resources available to my 
group.
There's nothing wrong with me wanting people to join my group.
My group is a teaching and learning group along with answering questions and

troubleshooting problems that people are having with w-10 and Jaws.
You don't understand, my audio files are 30 to 60 minutes long.
David said they are too big to put on his Jaws users web site.
I also devote a small section of my group to poetry and Christian writings, 
written by me and my members.
We have a second OneDrive group download page for these, members are free to

share these poetry and Bible writings with anyone.
Here is a current list of my tutorials for my group and the subscribe link 
as well.
Come over and check us out, you don't need to be using w-10 right now, this 
will help prepare you.
About the w-10 and Jaws Yahoo group, TXT.
Control panel and security, audio.
Customizing w-10 with Jaws, new audio.
Device manager, audio.
Devices and printers, audio.
How to delete the Windows.old folder, audio.
Maintenance tips for w-10 and Jaws, Audio.
Narrator keystrokes, TXT.
Navigating w-10 with Jaws 1, new Audio.
Navigating w-10 with Jaws 2, new Audio.
Rules for the Windows 10 & Jaws  group TXT.
Settings area in w-10 with Jaws, TXT.
Settings area, new part 1, audio.
Settings area, new part 2, audio.
Settings area, new part 3, audio.
Sound card Window and more audio.
Upgrading to W-10 with Jaws, TXT.
Using Bookshare and F S Reader with Jaws, Audio.
Using file explorer, audio.
Using iTunes with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using iTunes with Jaws, Audio 2.
Using Jaws window and help, Audio.
Using Mcafee with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using mcafee with Jaws, audio 2.
Using Narrator with w-10, Audio.
Using NFB Newsline with Jaws, audio 1.
Using NFB Newsline with Jaws, audio 2.
Using ninite.com to install programs.
Using quick access in w-10, audio.
Using the bing search in w-10, audio.
Using the F S website with Jaws, Audio.
Using the Notification area, new, audio.
Using the Start area, new, audio.
Using the troubleshooters in w-10, audio.
Using Windows Live Mail with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using Windows live mail with Jaws audio 2.
Using Windows live mail with Jaws audio 3.
Windows 10 and Jaws, Complete Guide, TXT.
Subscribe address:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where

God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Jim,

That was very kind of you to let Mr. Ferrin put your Jaws guide for Windows
10 on the Jaws-Users website.  1 thing I've noticed is that you don't share
anything relating to Jaws & Windows 10 with this list anymore.  Like, this
WLM tutorial.  I don't know what happened to make you stop sharing all your
great tutorials with this list, but you used to post the link to your Google
Drive for everyone to view, but not anymore.  You said earlier,

"I am one who gives his time and effort freely to the blind community."

Does this mean as long as the blind community is a member of your list?

What David Moore has done is totally wrong, but does everyone else have to
suffer because of his selfishness?  Personally, I've really enjoyed reading
your posts' & taking notes from for when the time comes that I update to
Windows 10.


Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.
- Original Message - 
From: Jim
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Rick Justice]

Just correcting a mistake on my part, I meant to say Dave, not Don.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Moderator" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 3:58 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi Jim, Don and all,
When a problem like this comes up between list members,
it should be handled off-list between the members in question.
This list was created for the purpose of discussing the use of Jaws,
and not for airing personal differences between members!
What others do with their own e-mail lists is their business,
and is of no concern or use to the operation of this list.
>From this point forward, if you wish to post content, make sure that you
give
credit where credit is due.

Let's have no more of this, on-list, and get back to business.
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi Richard,
I apologize, I was talking about the plagiarizing of my work.
You know that David has put my guide on the Jaws web site to be freely used
and shared.
This David moore has used my material many times on many  sites and called
it his own.
He changes a few words and then acts like he came up with it.
I have asked him 4 or 5 times privately to stop plagiarizing my work.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to him so that
others would know he is not the author of the material.
Sorry for any extra traffic this has caused the Jaws list.
I am not a trouble maker, I do not wish to be viewed as one.
I am one who gives his time and effort freely to the blind community.
However, after watching for a long time someone else taking credit for my
work, rub's a person the wrong way.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Moderator
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Jim,
Your message would have been more appropriate off-list.
Let's try and keep personal matters where they belong.
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, and you can change most of your settings in the nine groups of
settings that you can right arrow through until you get to the group you
want. One of the first things you should do, is press enter on the system
settings group and arrow to default programs. Press enter and tab through
and press the space bar on Internet. It will say that Edge is your default
browser, but tab to Internet Explorer and press the space bar on that. IE
will now be your default browser. I would install VLC media player for audio
and video. 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Moderator]

Hi Jim, Don and all,
When a problem like this comes up between list members,
it should be handled off-list between the members in question.
This list was created for the purpose of discussing the use of Jaws,
and not for airing personal differences between members!
What others do with their own e-mail lists is their business,
and is of no concern or use to the operation of this list.
>From this point forward, if you wish to post content, make sure that you 
give
credit where credit is due.

Let's have no more of this, on-list, and get back to business.
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi Richard,
I apologize, I was talking about the plagiarizing of my work.
You know that David has put my guide on the Jaws web site to be freely used
and shared.
This David moore has used my material many times on many  sites and called
it his own.
He changes a few words and then acts like he came up with it.
I have asked him 4 or 5 times privately to stop plagiarizing my work.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to him so that
others would know he is not the author of the material.
Sorry for any extra traffic this has caused the Jaws list.
I am not a trouble maker, I do not wish to be viewed as one.
I am one who gives his time and effort freely to the blind community.
However, after watching for a long time someone else taking credit for my
work, rub's a person the wrong way.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Moderator
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Jim,
Your message would have been more appropriate off-list.
Let's try and keep personal matters where they belong.
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, and you can change most of your settings in the nine groups of
settings that you can right arrow through until you get to the group you
want. One of the first things you should do, is press enter on the system
settings group and arrow to default programs. Press enter and tab through
and press the space bar on Internet. It will say that Edge is your default
browser, but tab to Internet Explorer and press the space bar on that. IE
will now be your default browser. I would install VLC media player for audio
and video. Once you do that, go back to default apps and press the space bar
on audio and tab to VLC and press space on that, and do the same for audio.
Next, you really want to press Windows + I to get to settings and right
arrow to privacy group and press enter. Arrow down to background apps and
turn most of them off. You do not need 

[JAWS-Users] JAWS-Users: Use of Windows 10! in the subject line.

[Tim Ford]

Hi All,

My curiosity has got the best of me.  On this list, I often see email 
strings that include "Windows 10!" in the subject.  I tend to be distracted 
by use of the ! symbol, but I have seen it enough pared with Windows 10 so 
that I wonder if this is some sort of trademark symbol?


If not, and even if it is a trademark, I would personally prefer that emails 
on this list resist the temptation to include that distracting ! symbol. 
Boy, am I sounding like a grumpy old retired guy?  Probably because I am! 
(Sorry, could not keep myself from rampant use of the !


Sincerely,
Tim Ford


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[David Moore]

Hi,
I want all of you to know that it was months ago when I pasted my One Drive 
link on this site with Jim's tutorials in it. After Jim told me not to, I 
have never put Jim's tutorials on here since. I am a Christian, and would 
not have done this on purpose. I have done my own tutorials that I will give 
to all of you in private. If you ask for them, they are yours with no 
strings attached. Have a great one.



-Original Message- 
From: Jim

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 2:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Mike,
My complete guide that I freely share with this list is all the TXT
information I have written down so far.
As far as my OneDrive group download page, this is for my w-10 and Jaws
Yahoo group only.
I have 32 audio tutorials on using w-10 with Jaws and other programs like
WLM.
Below is a complete list of my group's tutorials.
Yes, I will help any way that I can on this list, but I have to preserve my
OneDrive group download page for my group members.
If I open it to the public, there is a good chance that Microsoft will limit
the downloads that are taken from it.
This would prevent my members from having 24/7 access to it.
So, I am not being selfish, just trying to keep resources available to my
group.
There's nothing wrong with me wanting people to join my group.
My group is a teaching and learning group along with answering questions and
troubleshooting problems that people are having with w-10 and Jaws.
You don't understand, my audio files are 30 to 60 minutes long.
David said they are too big to put on his Jaws users web site.
I also devote a small section of my group to poetry and Christian writings,
written by me and my members.
We have a second OneDrive group download page for these, members are free to
share these poetry and Bible writings with anyone.
Here is a current list of my tutorials for my group and the subscribe link
as well.
Come over and check us out, you don't need to be using w-10 right now, this
will help prepare you.
About the w-10 and Jaws Yahoo group, TXT.
Control panel and security, audio.
Customizing w-10 with Jaws, new audio.
Device manager, audio.
Devices and printers, audio.
How to delete the Windows.old folder, audio.
Maintenance tips for w-10 and Jaws, Audio.
Narrator keystrokes, TXT.
Navigating w-10 with Jaws 1, new Audio.
Navigating w-10 with Jaws 2, new Audio.
Rules for the Windows 10 & Jaws  group TXT.
Settings area in w-10 with Jaws, TXT.
Settings area, new part 1, audio.
Settings area, new part 2, audio.
Settings area, new part 3, audio.
Sound card Window and more audio.
Upgrading to W-10 with Jaws, TXT.
Using Bookshare and F S Reader with Jaws, Audio.
Using file explorer, audio.
Using iTunes with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using iTunes with Jaws, Audio 2.
Using Jaws window and help, Audio.
Using Mcafee with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using mcafee with Jaws, audio 2.
Using Narrator with w-10, Audio.
Using NFB Newsline with Jaws, audio 1.
Using NFB Newsline with Jaws, audio 2.
Using ninite.com to install programs.
Using quick access in w-10, audio.
Using the bing search in w-10, audio.
Using the F S website with Jaws, Audio.
Using the Notification area, new, audio.
Using the Start area, new, audio.
Using the troubleshooters in w-10, audio.
Using Windows Live Mail with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using Windows live mail with Jaws audio 2.
Using Windows live mail with Jaws audio 3.
Windows 10 and Jaws, Complete Guide, TXT.
Subscribe address:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Mike B

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Jim,

That was very kind of you to let Mr. Ferrin put your Jaws guide for Windows
10 on the Jaws-Users website.  1 thing I've noticed is that you don't share
anything relating to Jaws & Windows 10 with this list anymore.  Like, this
WLM tutorial.  I don't know what happened to make you stop sharing all your
great tutorials with this list, but you used to post the link to your Google
Drive for everyone to view, but not anymore.  You said earlier,

"I am one who gives his time and effort freely to the blind community."

Does this mean as long as the blind community is a member of your list?

What David Moore has done is totally wrong, but does everyone else have to
suffer because of his selfishness?  Personally, I've really enjoyed reading
your posts' & taking notes from for when the time comes that I update to
Windows 10.


Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.
- Original Message - 
From: Jim

To: 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[David Moore]

Hi Rose,
I  have to put the tutorial for WLM in my Drop Box folder, and wait for it 
to upload to my account. I will send you a Drop Box link, but you do not 
need Drop Box to download the tutorial. You can just enter on the link and 
download this tutorial. This is my own recorded tutorial, and I go over 
everything from start to finish with WLM. Have a great one.



-Original Message- 
From: Rose Combs

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I just installed Windows 10, or rather it happened when my hard disk drive
died.  I have tried to get the guide so I can customize but when I tried to
download it, it seemed not to happen, and doing a search took me to the web
with loads of sites, none appropriate.  It is not like Windows 7, trust me,
when I tried to look in one download folder that came up it appeared to be
all images I could do nothing with, the other one showed only two things,
and I know the tech said he deleted anything he did not recognize, including
legitimate files.
E-mail works the same, and I did get IE to be the default.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, and you can change most of your settings in the nine groups of
settings that you can right arrow through until you get to the group you
want. One of the first things you should do, is press enter on the system
settings group and arrow to default programs. Press enter and tab through
and press the space bar on Internet. It will say that Edge is your default
browser, but tab to Internet Explorer and 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Joseph Lee's win10 list

[David Moore]

Hi Maria,
Here is the address to subscribe to Joseph Lee's win10 list where all screen 
readers an be discussed, not just JAWS

win10+subscr...@groups.io
Here is where You send messages after you are subscribed:
wi...@groups.io
Have a great one, and it is a really great list. See you there.

-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 3:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Joseph Lee's win10 list

Please, what is the address to join that list?

--
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know 
peace.

--Attributed to Jimi Hendrix


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[David Moore]

Hi Rose,
What I have for you is my own recorded tutorial, Not Jim's tutorial. I was 
getting ready to send it to you, But I had to address the issue of Jim's 
post to Richard that was incorrect. Here is my tutorial. I hope you learn a 
lot from it.



-Original Message- 
From: Jim

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 3:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Rose,
I just sent you a TXT copy of my guide in a email directly to you.
Hopefully this will help you.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Rose Combs

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I just installed Windows 10, or rather it happened when my hard disk drive
died.  I have tried to get the guide so I can customize but when I tried to
download it, it seemed not to happen, and doing a search took me to the web
with loads of sites, none appropriate.  It is not like Windows 7, trust me,
when I tried to look in one download folder that came up it appeared to be
all images I could do nothing with, the other one showed only two things,
and I know the tech said he deleted anything he did not recognize, including
legitimate files.
E-mail works the same, and I did get IE to be the default.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about 

[JAWS-Users] Joseph Lee's win10 list

[Maria Campbell]

Please, what is the address to join that list?

--
Maria Campbell
lucky1i...@gmail.com

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, the world will know peace.
--Attributed to Jimi Hendrix


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[David Moore]

Hi Richard and all,
Since Jim Flushed did his tutorials on win10 and JAWS, I have done many of 
my own. In the past, I did put Jim's tutorials on the list, but I did not 
know I was not supposed to. Ever since then, I decided to record my own 
tutorials. So now, when I mention that I have a tutorial for someone, it is 
indeed my own tutorial. I have not used Jim's tutorials for months even for 
my own use. Jim is indeed a trouble maker and I will prove it to you. First 
of all, Jim threw ten people, that I know of, off of his list over nothing. 
It was just because they were giving their opinion. Some people have 
switched to Joseph Lee's win10 list and talk publically about how bad it was 
on Jim's list. He has been called a dictator, a hypocrite, and much worse by 
former members on his list. What Jim must have done is that he assumed that 
the WLM tutorial that I mentioned on this list that I would give to anyone, 
was his tutorial when it is indeed my own tutorial. Jim thinks that he is 
the world's final authority for win10. I have more experience with the 
computer and JAWS than Jim does. I have a BS in mathematics, and a MA in 
math education. I I have used the computer for 30 years since the dos days. 
I have used all mathematical software, all versions of windows, and I have 
tutored people in mathematics and computers for 20 years. I am never harsh 
with people, and this is not me, but Jim has left me no choice. I must 
defend myself before all of you who I love. How does Jim Flushed have the 
arrogance to assume I cannot make my own tutorials as well. If someone gives 
their opinion, Jim Flushed throws them off his list without a warning. He 
will not answer one question if a person has not listened to or read his 
tutorials first. He is so mean to members of his list, and says that he is 
their for blind people. If you want proof, I can direct you to other members 
who are on these list, who are former members of his list, and they will 
tell you how he is. I am before the Lord and tell you that I have not put 
one of Jim's tutorials, on any list, for months. As soon as he made it clear 
to me not to do so, I have not done it since. By the way, Unlike Jim, my 
information is available to you and anyone you would like to pass it along 
to. I love you guys, and I want nothing more than to help all blind people. 
I am completely innocent of giving out any of Jim's materials after he told 
me not to. God bless all of you and I hope I can keep helping all of you for 
years to come. Have a great one.




-Original Message- 
From: Jim

Sent: Saturday, March 5, 2016 11:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Richard,
I apologize, I was talking about the plagiarizing of my work.
You know that David has put my guide on the Jaws web site to be freely used
and shared.
This David moore has used my material many times on many  sites and called
it his own.
He changes a few words and then acts like he came up with it.
I have asked him 4 or 5 times privately to stop plagiarizing my work.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to him so that
others would know he is not the author of the material.
Sorry for any extra traffic this has caused the Jaws list.
I am not a trouble maker, I do not wish to be viewed as one.
I am one who gives his time and effort freely to the blind community.
However, after watching for a long time someone else taking credit for my
work, rub's a person the wrong way.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Moderator

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Jim,
Your message would have been more appropriate off-list.
Let's try and keep personal matters where they belong.
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Jim]

Hi Rose,
I just sent you a TXT copy of my guide in a email directly to you.
Hopefully this will help you.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Rose Combs

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

I just installed Windows 10, or rather it happened when my hard disk drive
died.  I have tried to get the guide so I can customize but when I tried to
download it, it seemed not to happen, and doing a search took me to the web
with loads of sites, none appropriate.  It is not like Windows 7, trust me,
when I tried to look in one download folder that came up it appeared to be
all images I could do nothing with, the other one showed only two things,
and I know the tech said he deleted anything he did not recognize, including
legitimate files.
E-mail works the same, and I did get IE to be the default.


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, and you can change most of your settings in the nine groups of
settings that you can right arrow through until you get to the group you
want. One of the first things you should do, is press enter on the system
settings group and arrow to default programs. Press enter and tab through
and press 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Mike B]

Hi Jim,

Thank you very much for your explanation, & I do now understand your reasons 
for not wanting to put your 1 Drive access out there for everyone.
Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.
- Original Message - 
From: Jim
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 11:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi Mike,
My complete guide that I freely share with this list is all the TXT
information I have written down so far.
As far as my OneDrive group download page, this is for my w-10 and Jaws
Yahoo group only.
I have 32 audio tutorials on using w-10 with Jaws and other programs like
WLM.
Below is a complete list of my group's tutorials.
Yes, I will help any way that I can on this list, but I have to preserve my
OneDrive group download page for my group members.
If I open it to the public, there is a good chance that Microsoft will limit
the downloads that are taken from it.
This would prevent my members from having 24/7 access to it.
So, I am not being selfish, just trying to keep resources available to my
group.
There's nothing wrong with me wanting people to join my group.
My group is a teaching and learning group along with answering questions and
troubleshooting problems that people are having with w-10 and Jaws.
You don't understand, my audio files are 30 to 60 minutes long.
David said they are too big to put on his Jaws users web site.
I also devote a small section of my group to poetry and Christian writings,
written by me and my members.
We have a second OneDrive group download page for these, members are free to
share these poetry and Bible writings with anyone.
Here is a current list of my tutorials for my group and the subscribe link
as well.
Come over and check us out, you don't need to be using w-10 right now, this
will help prepare you.
About the w-10 and Jaws Yahoo group, TXT.
Control panel and security, audio.
Customizing w-10 with Jaws, new audio.
Device manager, audio.
Devices and printers, audio.
How to delete the Windows.old folder, audio.
Maintenance tips for w-10 and Jaws, Audio.
Narrator keystrokes, TXT.
Navigating w-10 with Jaws 1, new Audio.
Navigating w-10 with Jaws 2, new Audio.
Rules for the Windows 10 & Jaws  group TXT.
Settings area in w-10 with Jaws, TXT.
Settings area, new part 1, audio.
Settings area, new part 2, audio.
Settings area, new part 3, audio.
Sound card Window and more audio.
Upgrading to W-10 with Jaws, TXT.
Using Bookshare and F S Reader with Jaws, Audio.
Using file explorer, audio.
Using iTunes with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using iTunes with Jaws, Audio 2.
Using Jaws window and help, Audio.
Using Mcafee with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using mcafee with Jaws, audio 2.
Using Narrator with w-10, Audio.
Using NFB Newsline with Jaws, audio 1.
Using NFB Newsline with Jaws, audio 2.
Using ninite.com to install programs.
Using quick access in w-10, audio.
Using the bing search in w-10, audio.
Using the F S website with Jaws, Audio.
Using the Notification area, new, audio.
Using the Start area, new, audio.
Using the troubleshooters in w-10, audio.
Using Windows Live Mail with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using Windows live mail with Jaws audio 2.
Using Windows live mail with Jaws audio 3.
Windows 10 and Jaws, Complete Guide, TXT.
Subscribe address:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Mike B
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Jim,

That was very kind of you to let Mr. Ferrin put your Jaws guide for Windows
10 on the Jaws-Users website.  1 thing I've noticed is that you don't share
anything relating to Jaws & Windows 10 with this list anymore.  Like, this
WLM tutorial.  I don't know what happened to make you stop sharing all your
great tutorials with this list, but you used to post the link to your Google
Drive for everyone to view, but not anymore.  You said earlier,

"I am one who gives his time and effort freely to the blind community."

Does this mean as long as the blind community is a member of your list?

What David Moore has done is totally wrong, but does everyone else have to
suffer because of his selfishness?  Personally, I've really enjoyed reading
your posts' & taking notes from for when the time comes that I update to
Windows 10.


Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.
- Original Message - 
From: Jim
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi Richard,
I apologize, I was talking about the plagiarizing of my work.
You know that David has 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Can't Highlight Using the Shift Arrow Keys

[Jim]

For now in w-10 use the latest Jaws 16.
Jaws 17 will read the status of the various buttons in the settings area 
incorrectly in w-10.

You will think a button is turned on when in fact it is turned off.
You will think a button is turned off when in fact it is turned on.
As far as highlighting and copying text.
It works the same way it did in w-7.
For example:
Shift+down arrow, to select a line.
Insert key+shift+right arrow to select a word.
And so on.
I hope this helps...






Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Lynn White

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Can't Highlight Using the Shift Arrow Keys

I just upgraded from Windows 7 and Jaws 16 to Windows 10 Jaws 17.

How do you highlight anything without using the control shift arrows any
longer?  Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Rose Combs]

I just installed Windows 10, or rather it happened when my hard disk drive
died.  I have tried to get the guide so I can customize but when I tried to
download it, it seemed not to happen, and doing a search took me to the web
with loads of sites, none appropriate.  It is not like Windows 7, trust me,
when I tried to look in one download folder that came up it appeared to be
all images I could do nothing with, the other one showed only two things,
and I know the tech said he deleted anything he did not recognize, including
legitimate files.  
E-mail works the same, and I did get IE to be the default.  


Rose Combs
roseco...@q.com

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain
people.
People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and
calling it his own.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my
work.
Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be
freely used and shared.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message-
From: Jim
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, and you can change most of your settings in the nine groups of
settings that you can right arrow through until you get to the group you
want. One of the first things you should do, is press enter on the system
settings group and arrow to default programs. Press enter and tab through
and press the space bar on Internet. It will say that Edge is your default
browser, but tab to Internet Explorer and press the space bar on that. IE
will now be your default browser. I would install VLC media player for audio
and video. Once you do that, go back to default apps and press the space bar
on audio and tab to VLC and press space on that, and do the same for audio.
Next, you really want to press Windows + I to get to settings and right
arrow to privacy group and press enter. Arrow down to background apps and
turn most of them off. You do not need these apps to run in the background.
Warning... The newest update of JAWS reads 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Jim]

Hi Mike,
My complete guide that I freely share with this list is all the TXT 
information I have written down so far.
As far as my OneDrive group download page, this is for my w-10 and Jaws 
Yahoo group only.
I have 32 audio tutorials on using w-10 with Jaws and other programs like 
WLM.

Below is a complete list of my group's tutorials.
Yes, I will help any way that I can on this list, but I have to preserve my 
OneDrive group download page for my group members.
If I open it to the public, there is a good chance that Microsoft will limit 
the downloads that are taken from it.

This would prevent my members from having 24/7 access to it.
So, I am not being selfish, just trying to keep resources available to my 
group.

There's nothing wrong with me wanting people to join my group.
My group is a teaching and learning group along with answering questions and 
troubleshooting problems that people are having with w-10 and Jaws.

You don't understand, my audio files are 30 to 60 minutes long.
David said they are too big to put on his Jaws users web site.
I also devote a small section of my group to poetry and Christian writings, 
written by me and my members.
We have a second OneDrive group download page for these, members are free to 
share these poetry and Bible writings with anyone.
Here is a current list of my tutorials for my group and the subscribe link 
as well.
Come over and check us out, you don't need to be using w-10 right now, this 
will help prepare you.

About the w-10 and Jaws Yahoo group, TXT.
Control panel and security, audio.
Customizing w-10 with Jaws, new audio.
Device manager, audio.
Devices and printers, audio.
How to delete the Windows.old folder, audio.
Maintenance tips for w-10 and Jaws, Audio.
Narrator keystrokes, TXT.
Navigating w-10 with Jaws 1, new Audio.
Navigating w-10 with Jaws 2, new Audio.
Rules for the Windows 10 & Jaws  group TXT.
Settings area in w-10 with Jaws, TXT.
Settings area, new part 1, audio.
Settings area, new part 2, audio.
Settings area, new part 3, audio.
Sound card Window and more audio.
Upgrading to W-10 with Jaws, TXT.
Using Bookshare and F S Reader with Jaws, Audio.
Using file explorer, audio.
Using iTunes with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using iTunes with Jaws, Audio 2.
Using Jaws window and help, Audio.
Using Mcafee with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using mcafee with Jaws, audio 2.
Using Narrator with w-10, Audio.
Using NFB Newsline with Jaws, audio 1.
Using NFB Newsline with Jaws, audio 2.
Using ninite.com to install programs.
Using quick access in w-10, audio.
Using the bing search in w-10, audio.
Using the F S website with Jaws, Audio.
Using the Notification area, new, audio.
Using the Start area, new, audio.
Using the troubleshooters in w-10, audio.
Using Windows Live Mail with Jaws, Audio 1.
Using Windows live mail with Jaws audio 2.
Using Windows live mail with Jaws audio 3.
Windows 10 and Jaws, Complete Guide, TXT.
Subscribe address:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Mike B

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Jim,

That was very kind of you to let Mr. Ferrin put your Jaws guide for Windows
10 on the Jaws-Users website.  1 thing I've noticed is that you don't share
anything relating to Jaws & Windows 10 with this list anymore.  Like, this
WLM tutorial.  I don't know what happened to make you stop sharing all your
great tutorials with this list, but you used to post the link to your Google
Drive for everyone to view, but not anymore.  You said earlier,

"I am one who gives his time and effort freely to the blind community."

Does this mean as long as the blind community is a member of your list?

What David Moore has done is totally wrong, but does everyone else have to
suffer because of his selfishness?  Personally, I've really enjoyed reading
your posts' & taking notes from for when the time comes that I update to
Windows 10.


Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.
- Original Message - 
From: Jim

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi Richard,
I apologize, I was talking about the plagiarizing of my work.
You know that David has put my guide on the Jaws web site to be freely used
and shared.
This David moore has used my material many times on many  sites and called
it his own.
He changes a few words and then acts like he came up with it.
I have asked him 4 or 5 times privately to stop plagiarizing my work.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to him 

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws not starting when booting win10?

[valiant8086]

Hi.

Another idea, disable automatically start jaws for both this user and 
for all users. Hit ok on that dialogue box, restart jaws if not the 
whole computer. Go back in and enable those auto start features again. I 
don't really expect that to make any difference, but it wouldn't be the 
first time I fixed an issue where something wasn't behaving as it was 
set to, set it to behave differently than it is set now and it may start 
being consistent to how it is set after that.


If that doesn't help, I'm not sure where to go from there, do you have 
multiple coppies of JAWS installed? If so, they may be having trouble 
figuring out which one will start if both coppies are set to start. You 
could try running NVDA or Narrator uninstall JAWS and all shared 
components, removing JAWS user settings along the way, then reinstall 
it. Note that as long as you don't manually go and delete anything in 
the program files/freedomscientific folder on your computer you should 
keep your ILM authorization even though you uninstalled this way. Also, 
it could possibly be that your windows 10 setting for starting a screen 
reader when you log on is messed up. Do you get another screen reader 
starting automatically when JAWS isn't? Narrator perhaps?


Go to your start screen and type blind. Down arrow to optimize for 
blindness.


There are quite a few checkboxes in here. You might want to make sure 
Start narrator is not checked... For mine I have Narrator unchecked, 
audio description checked, JAWS 16 and NVDA both not checked, but JAWS 
17 is checked. I don't really know exactly what these do but you can 
give that a try too. Might try that before you go crazy and reinstall 
JAWS though.






Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates 
Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community 
http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.5.0 portable

On 3/5/2016 4:02 AM, Adam Morris wrote:

Hi Dan,
Thanks for the tip but this didn't fix the problem.



On 04-Mar-16 21:15, dan wrote:

Hi,

Right click on jaws shortcut and click properties. You need to check 
*run as

administrator*
Hth

Dan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Morris
Sent: 04 March 2016 10:10
To: Jaws for Windows. 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws not starting when booting win10?

Hi all,
using jaws17 latest build with a win10 desktop.
I reinstalled windows over the top of itself after speaking to microsoft
accessibility helpdesk.
I needed to reinstall jaws after this.
Jaws won't start when the machine boots.
start for this user always is checked and start at the login screen is
checked.
I removed my antivirus before installing jaws.
I also ran Jaws as admin.
Before the reinstall of windows jaws would start at startup.
Any ideas what else I can try?




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[JAWS-Users] Can't Highlight Using the Shift Arrow Keys

[Lynn White]

I just upgraded from Windows 7 and Jaws 16 to Windows 10 Jaws 17.

How do you highlight anything without using the control shift arrows any 
longer?  Thanks.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] defragging disk

[Shane Hecker]

I wouldn't worry too much about the recovery disk as it's not going to 
be used that much if at all. Your system drive (the C drive) is the one 
that should be kept defragmented.


Shane

On 3/5/2016 11:57 AM, Kevin wrote:

running windows 10 using jaws 17 latest
when using the windows disc defrag I can get my OS c back to 0 percent 
defragmented but when I arrow down to my recovery hard disc it usually is 4 
percent defragged sometimes higher.  when I defrag the disc it defrags very 
fast and I can never get it back to zero.  is there a way I can get the 
recovery disc down to zero or does it matter?
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Tandum, passing my clip board

[Don Moore]

Mario,

As the original exerpt from the JAWS Tandem Quick Start Guide
stated:

Note: Remote Clipboard will not transfer files." (end quote)

However, you can copy and cut files from one place on her computer to
another place on her computer.

Don

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mario
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 11:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tandum, passing my clip board

Don, does what you explained also apply to files?


On 3/4/2016 9:39 AM, Mario wrote:
> ah, thanks for clearing it up. the excerpt should have briefly pointed 
> that out as not to confuse first time users. maybe by saying "use the 
> CTRL + C keystroke to copy text with formatting from the target 
> system, suspend the session, use CTRL + V to paste text into a file on 
> the controller system, and resume the session. ...".
>
>
> On 3/3/2016 8:18 PM, Don Moore wrote:
>> Mario,
>>
>> If you copy some selected text on the target computer to the 
>> clipboard and then do not suspend the Tandem session by pressing 
>> Insert alt Tab, then pressing Control plus v will definitely paste 
>> the copied text into the target computer. However, if you suspend the 
>> Tandem session after copying some text from the target computer to 
>> the clipboard, then you may, if you wish, paste the copied text into 
>> the controller computer.
>>
>> Don
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
>> On Behalf Of Mario
>> Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 6:23 PM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tandum, passing my clip board
>>
>> Don, what I don't understand is that the excerpt states, "use the 
>> CTRL
>> + C
>> keystroke to copy text with formatting from the target system", good 
>> so far, "then use CTRL + V to paste text into a file on the 
>> controller system.". why does it say control+v pastes it to the 
>> controller's system, shouldn't
>> control+v paste it to the target's system?
>>
>> On 3/3/2016 4:46 PM, Don Moore wrote:
>>> Hi Mario,
>>>
>>> While using JAWS Tandem, you can copy anything from her computer 
>>> and
>>
>>> paste it somewhere else on her computer. You can also copy text from 
>>> her computer and paste it on your computer, but not the reverse; 
>>> this is one of the limitations.
>>>
>>> You will discover other limitations as you go along. For 
>>> example, there are times when you might want to select some option 
>>> on her computer, but JAWS Tandem may not allow you to do so, but you 
>>> can tell her to do it herself.
>>>
>>> Don
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: JAWS-Users-List 
>>> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>>> On Behalf Of Mario
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 6:42 PM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Tandum, passing my clip board
>>>
>>> Don, does this mean I can't perform a paste while working on her 
>>> computer?
>>>
>>> and could you explain what those limitations are?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/2/2016 4:18 PM, Don Moore wrote:
 Hi Mario,

 I just copied the following exerpt from the JAWS Tandem Quick 
 Start
 Guide:

 (Begin quote): "Remote Clipboard
 Use the CTRL + C keystroke to copy text with formatting from the 
 target system, and then use CTRL + V to paste text into a file on 
 the controller system. This is ideal for support personnel who want 
 to copy specific text from a log file on the target system.
 Note: Remote Clipboard will not transfer files." (end quote)

 Further to this, you cannot copy text from your Controller 
 computer to the target computer, so you will have to either type in 
 the link you want her to have or send it to her by E-mail.

 When you are in a JAWS Tandem session, it is just as if you are 
 sitting physically in front of her computer, so everything will act 
 according to the settings on her PC, including her 40-minute mode 
 of
>> JAWS.

 I use JAWS Tandem frequently and find it very useful. However, 
 for security reasons, it does have its limitations.

 Hope this helps,

 Don

 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List 
 [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
 On Behalf Of Mario
 Sent: Wednesday, March 2, 2016 1:36 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] Tandum, passing my clip board

 hi gang, I might have the need to tandem with a friend to check out 
 what's the problem with her ailing computer, and I have a question 
 I can't find an answer to. rather than having my question not 
 worded to explain what it is I want to do, here it is:

 I wanted to copy the address for Microsoft's Security (Safety) 
 Scanner from my computer to use it to 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Questions and some help in how to use it!

[Mike B]

Hi Helga,

Below are the direct download links for the latest versions of both Jaws 16 
& 17 64 bit:

Jaws 17:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J17.0.1377enu-x64.exe

Jaws 16:

http://files.freedomscientific.com/WebFiles/JAWS/J16.0.4468enu-x64.exe


Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.
- Original Message - 
From: Helga Schreiber
To: JAWSUsers Mailing list
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 11:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Questions and some help in how to use it!


Hi all! This is Helga! How are you all? The subject line says it all! I want 
to learn how to use Windows 10. Do you have any  tutorials and podcasts or 
guides that can teach me how to operated with JAWS! And Braille displays! 
The reason I'm asking is because my boyfriend got his  windows HP computer 
and he is  running Windows 10 on it. However, he does not have JAWS yet on 
it, he iwll buy JAWS 16 or 17 soon!  He is actually deaf and blind and he 
will use a Focus 40 blue braille display connected to it! I unfortunately 
don't have  Windows 10 or JAWS  16 or 17. I have windows 8 and   Running 
JAWS 14 on it!  I just want to teach him how  to  use! It! An one last 
thing, i call freedom scientific and I ask them if they have JAWS 16, but 
they told me that they only sell JAWS 17. Is that true? If so,  Can anyone 
here provide me withe steps   in how can I download  the demo of JAWs 17 or 
16 on my windows computer? I will really appreciate it a lot!  Feel free to 
contact me off list regarding this matter since I don't want to clutter the 
list! I look forward in hearing form yous oon. Thanks and God bless!!

Helga Schreiber

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com
Skype: helga.schreiber26
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx
INT Website: http://int4life.com/

"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever 
believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Mike B]

Hi Jim,

That was very kind of you to let Mr. Ferrin put your Jaws guide for Windows 
10 on the Jaws-Users website.  1 thing I've noticed is that you don't share 
anything relating to Jaws & Windows 10 with this list anymore.  Like, this 
WLM tutorial.  I don't know what happened to make you stop sharing all your 
great tutorials with this list, but you used to post the link to your Google 
Drive for everyone to view, but not anymore.  You said earlier,

"I am one who gives his time and effort freely to the blind community."

Does this mean as long as the blind community is a member of your list?

What David Moore has done is totally wrong, but does everyone else have to 
suffer because of his selfishness?  Personally, I've really enjoyed reading 
your posts' & taking notes from for when the time comes that I update to 
Windows 10.


Take care.
Mike
The key to happiness is, having a crappy memory.
- Original Message - 
From: Jim
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi Richard,
I apologize, I was talking about the plagiarizing of my work.
You know that David has put my guide on the Jaws web site to be freely used
and shared.
This David moore has used my material many times on many  sites and called
it his own.
He changes a few words and then acts like he came up with it.
I have asked him 4 or 5 times privately to stop plagiarizing my work.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to him so that
others would know he is not the author of the material.
Sorry for any extra traffic this has caused the Jaws list.
I am not a trouble maker, I do not wish to be viewed as one.
I am one who gives his time and effort freely to the blind community.
However, after watching for a long time someone else taking credit for my
work, rub's a person the wrong way.
Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Moderator
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Jim,
Your message would have been more appropriate off-list.
Let's try and keep personal matters where they belong.
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, and you can change most of your settings in the nine groups of
settings that you can right arrow through until you get to the group you
want. One of the first things you should do, is press enter on the system
settings group and arrow to default programs. Press enter and tab through
and press the space bar on Internet. It will say that Edge is your default
browser, but tab to Internet Explorer and press the space bar on that. IE
will now be your default browser. I would install VLC media player for audio
and video. Once you do that, go back to default apps and press the space bar
on audio and 

[JAWS-Users] defragging disk

[Kevin]

running windows 10 using jaws 17 latest
when using the windows disc defrag I can get my OS c back to 0 percent 
defragmented but when I arrow down to my recovery hard disc it usually is 4 
percent defragged sometimes higher.  when I defrag the disc it defrags very 
fast and I can never get it back to zero.  is there a way I can get the 
recovery disc down to zero or does it matter?
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Jim]

Hi Richard,
I apologize, I was talking about the plagiarizing of my work.
You know that David has put my guide on the Jaws web site to be freely used 
and shared.
This David moore has used my material many times on many  sites and called 
it his own.

He changes a few words and then acts like he came up with it.
I have asked him 4 or 5 times privately to stop plagiarizing my work.
But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to him so that 
others would know he is not the author of the material.

Sorry for any extra traffic this has caused the Jaws list.
I am not a trouble maker, I do not wish to be viewed as one.
I am one who gives his time and effort freely to the blind community.
However, after watching for a long time someone else taking credit for my 
work, rub's a person the wrong way.

Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- 
From: Moderator

Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 1:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi Jim,
Your message would have been more appropriate off-list.
Let's try and keep personal matters where they belong.
Thank you,

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!


Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, and you can change most of your settings in the nine groups of
settings that you can right arrow through until you get to the group you
want. One of the first things you should do, is press enter on the system
settings group and arrow to default programs. Press enter and tab through
and press the space bar on Internet. It will say that Edge is your default
browser, but tab to Internet Explorer and press the space bar on that. IE
will now be your default browser. I would install VLC media player for audio
and video. Once you do that, go back to default apps and press the space bar
on audio and tab to VLC and press space on that, and do the same for audio.
Next, you really want to press Windows + I to get to settings and right
arrow to privacy group and press enter. Arrow down to background apps and
turn most of them off. You do not need these apps to run in the background.
Warning... The newest update of JAWS reads these switches the opposite way.
When it says on, it is really off. Use JAWS 17.1214 to set these background
apps from on to off by just pressing the space bar on them. Warning... When
you press space on one of them to turn it off, JAWS takes you back to the
beginning. You have to tab back to where you were to the next app and turn
that off so it won't run in the background. Each time, you will be taken
back to the beginning, so you will have to tab through to the next one you
have not turned off yet. Once you get finished with that, you will have a
good start with win10. Please email me at:
jesusloves1...@gmail.com
I will help you to get win10 working for you just as well as windows 7 did.
It takes a lot of work 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

[Jim]

Hi David and the Jaws users list.
Sorry about any confusion my last email may have caused.
You know that my w-10 and Jaws complete guide can be shared by anyone.
What I was talking about was the plagiarizing of my material by certain 
people.

People that I helped teach and learn w-10 with Jaws.
People changing a few words and then calling my work there work.
For some reason they want to receive the reward for my hard work.
I asked this person 4 or 5 times now to quit plagiarizing my work and 
calling it his own.

But he refuses to do so, so I had to make a public statement to this effect.
He needs to come up with his own work and needs to quit taking credit for my 
work.

Again I apologize for any extra traffic this may have caused.
Yes, my guide that David has graciously put on his Jaws web site can be 
freely used and shared.

Thanks...




Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed 
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with 
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually 
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where 
God sits.

Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 9:56 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

David, if it is not free to share then by all means we must respect the
author.

-Original Message- 
From: Jim

Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi David,
Gee, I am glad you learned so much from me.
Now you act like all my material belongs to you to share with others.
I will now publically ask you not to share my group tutorials with others,
this is my material, not yours.
Just because you change a word or two like in this email, it is still my
material.





Love God! with your heart, mind, and soul, that you might be blessed
reaching His goal.
Love your Neighbor as you would yourself, God will truly reward you with
good health.
Love God, your neighbor, as you love yourself, you will then be spiritually
balanced with wealth.
Love His Word that proceeds from His lips, then reflect on the heavens where
God sits.
Jim
-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10!

Hi rose,
All of your data should be there. To find installed programs, press the
Windows key and up arrow to all apps and press enter. In win10, all desktop
programs and all universal apps will be in the list. In the list itself, you
cannot use first letter navigation, but here is what you can do. Tab once
from the list of programs, and you will be in a list of all the letters in
the alphabet. Arrow to the letter you want and press enter twice. Important,
press enter twice. You will then be put in a list of programs that start
with just that letter. Take care, and please email me off list, because I
installed win10 in August, and I know everything about navigating win10 and
customizing it to work best with JAWS. Press windows + I brings up the
settings app, and you can change most of your settings in the nine groups of
settings that you can right arrow through until you get to the group you
want. One of the first things you should do, is press enter on the system
settings group and arrow to default programs. Press enter and tab through
and press the space bar on Internet. It will say that Edge is your default
browser, but tab to Internet Explorer and press the space bar on that. IE
will now be your default browser. I would install VLC media player for audio
and video. Once you do that, go back to default apps and press the space bar
on audio and tab to VLC and press space on that, and do the same for audio.
Next, you really want to press Windows + I to get to settings and right
arrow to privacy group and press enter. Arrow down to background apps and
turn most of them off. You do not need these apps to run in the background.
Warning... The newest update of JAWS reads these switches the opposite way.
When it says on, it is really off. Use JAWS 17.1214 to set these background
apps from on to off by just pressing the space bar on them. Warning... When
you press space on one of them to turn it off, JAWS takes you back to the
beginning. You have to tab back to where you were to the next app and turn
that off so it won't run in the background. Each time, you will be taken
back to the beginning, so you will have to tab through to the next one you
have not turned off yet. Once you get finished with that, you will have a
good start with win10. Please email me at:
jesusloves1...@gmail.com
I will help you to get win10 working for you just as well as windows 7 did.
It takes a lot of work to figure it all out on your own. Have a great one.


-Original Message- 
From: Rose Combs

Sent: Friday, March 4, 

Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

[David Ferrin]

Obviously not since it would seem that he did not create them. I was under
the impression that David himself was the author, but that not being the
case and Jim does not want his work shared on here so I won't be posting
them. 

Sorry gang but I only post what is free to distribute.
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2016 2:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Would david moor be opposed to giving david f liberties of posting the
tutorial on his site?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Geno9802
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 2:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

David More, please, Geno would like a copy of this please.
geno9...@gmail.com
Many thanks in advance.
Geno in appreciation

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2016 4:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Hi,
WLM 2012 is the best and works great on win10 with JAWS 16 and 17. I have a
tutorial that covers everything from downloading it to customising it to
work best with JAWS. Let me know if you want it. Have a great one.


-Original Message-
From: inamuddin
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

I can recommend WLM for you.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1


-Original Message-
From: Zoe Fiogkos
Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 8:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] email programs with windows 10 & jaws

Hey guys, currently I'm using windows 7 and jaws 15 but I have a new laptop
running windows 10 with the last version of jaws 17.
I haven't updated to the latest jaws 17 because I've been told it doesn't
work properly with windows 10.  Right now I have no problems but I would
like to start using email on the new laptop.  What do you all recommend for
an email client with this version of windows and jaws.
Regards
Zoe

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[JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Questions and some help in how to use it!

[Helga Schreiber]

Hi all! This is Helga! How are you all? The subject line says it all! I want to 
learn how to use Windows 10. Do you have any  tutorials and podcasts or guides 
that can teach me how to operated with JAWS! And Braille displays! The reason 
I'm asking is because my boyfriend got his  windows HP computer and he is  
running Windows 10 on it. However, he does not have JAWS yet on it, he iwll buy 
JAWS 16 or 17 soon!  He is actually deaf and blind and he will use a Focus 40 
blue braille display connected to it! I unfortunately don't have  Windows 10 or 
JAWS  16 or 17. I have windows 8 and   Running JAWS 14 on it!  I just want to 
teach him how  to  use! It! An one last  thing, i call freedom scientific and I 
ask them if they have JAWS 16, but they told me that they only sell JAWS 17. Is 
that true? If so,  Can anyone here provide me withe steps   in how can I 
download  the demo of JAWs 17 or 16 on my windows computer? I will really 
appreciate it a lot!  Feel free to contact me off list regardin
 g this matter since I don't want to clutter the list! I look forward in 
hearing form yous oon. Thanks and God bless!!

Helga Schreiber 

Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of Blind 
Students.
Member of the International Networkers Team (INT).
Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research.
Phone:  (561) 706-5950 
Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com 
Skype: helga.schreiber26 
4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx 
INT Website: http://int4life.com/ 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

[david]

hello;
if you want your windows 10 to load directly on to the desktop,

you need to go into, ctrl panel,
taskbar properties,
now, go to navigation,
now tab until you hear;
“When I sign in, go to the Desktop instead of the Start Screen”
this box needs to be checked.
note, you can type control into the search edit field instead of going to 
control panel.


-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Friday, March 4, 2016 12:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

No password box for me, when I boot this lil guy.

First thing I see is the start menue and I'm in the edit box to search.
The navigation tab in the properties is where I made that change but can't
remember if it were for 8.1, 8, or windows 7. Lol.
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of TheHangMan
Sent: Thursday, March 3, 2016 4:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Hi,
Actually goes to the password edit box first if you have one, Then, the
desktop, If, you tab a couple times you should run into the recycle bin.

The answer is yes, I have not heard of the other stuff you posted,
It's been straight to the desktop from day one. Maybe you mean windows +I
for settings? Jorge






-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kimsan
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2016 4:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 10 boot straight to desktop

Does this still exist in windows 10. It used to be I think navigation pane
in the taskbar properties.

Mine lands on the start menu.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws not starting when booting win10?

[Adam Morris]

Hi Dan,
Thanks for the tip but this didn't fix the problem.



On 04-Mar-16 21:15, dan wrote:

Hi,

Right click on jaws shortcut and click properties. You need to check *run as
administrator*
Hth

Dan



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adam Morris
Sent: 04 March 2016 10:10
To: Jaws for Windows. 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws not starting when booting win10?

Hi all,
using jaws17 latest build with a win10 desktop.
I reinstalled windows over the top of itself after speaking to microsoft
accessibility helpdesk.
I needed to reinstall jaws after this.
Jaws won't start when the machine boots.
start for this user always is checked and start at the login screen is
checked.
I removed my antivirus before installing jaws.
I also ran Jaws as admin.
Before the reinstall of windows jaws would start at startup.
Any ideas what else I can try?




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