Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[Dave ...]

Jim,

sorry to hear that you're not happy. But that's just the way it is, and 
stamping your foot does not make the problem disappear. Life is tough, move 
on.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Fettgather" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 21:44
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email


This is what I need to do, hit control home and then Jaws down arrow.
Why is this, this is not acceptable.
This behavior does not happen in Windows 10 mail, messages are read in their
entirety when opening an  email.
Work arouns like control home and then doing a say all such as must be done
in outlook are a productivity killer and should not be tolerated.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Patty,
When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use
say all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will
the read all key help? smiles Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read
all command, TC,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[Jim Fettgather]

This is what I need to do, hit control home and then Jaws down arrow.
Why is this, this is not acceptable.
This behavior does not happen in Windows 10 mail, messages are read in their
entirety when opening an  email.
Work arouns like control home and then doing a say all such as must be done
in outlook are a productivity killer and should not be tolerated.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Patty,
When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use
say all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will
the read all key help? smiles Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read
all command, TC,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[Kurt Miller]

Patty,
When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use
say all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will
the read all key help? smiles Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read
all command, TC,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[Adrian Spratt]

Patti, for years now, I've been in the habit of pressing control-home when I 
open an email message. This does two things. First, it momentarily shuts JAWS 
up. It also places focus at the top of the message field and JAWS starts 
speaking from there. An extra keystroke, but it's such a habit that I don't 
think about it anymore.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 10:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will the 
read all key help? smiles Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read 
all command, TC,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes at 
the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[patti]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will
the read all key help? smiles
Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read
all command, TC,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[Jorge Rivas]

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read
all command,
TC,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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[JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[patti]

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

[Subash]

Hi Jerry, is it only on this particular email or all your other emails with 
attachment?
Try saving the file with alt, S A and it will prompt you to save all 
attachments. If no attachment is there, it will say no attachment to be 
saved.

hth

-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

No ... that just cycles through the information on the sender, recipient,
date and subject information. Thanks anyway.

-Original Message- 
From: Blackwell, Clifford

Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:16 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

Try moving to the top of the message and then shift tab once.  That
generally leads me to an attachment in OE or Outlook.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has
an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but
I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is
there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows
10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit
of important information). Many thanks in advance.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

[Jason White]

I haven't looked at this entire discussion, so maybe the following isn't
relevant, but when searching for messages in Microsoft Outlook, you can 
specify "has:attachment" (without the quotation marks and with no spaces, as
shown) to restrict the search to messages that have attachments.

Adrian Spratt  wrote:
>  Actually, what Clifford wrote gives you important information. If you 
> back-tab once and don't hear JAWS verbalize "attachment," it usually means 
> there is no attachment. That's the case here. For future reference, if the 
> message field contains links, then you might not automatically land on the 
> attachment field.
> Sometimes what senders call an attachment is actually buried inside the 
> message field, and it can usually be found by searching for objects with the 
> quick navigation key letter "o," so long as you have email set to HTML. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:36 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment
> 
> No ... that just cycles through the information on the sender, recipient, 
> date and subject information. Thanks anyway.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Blackwell, Clifford
> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:16 PM
> To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment
> 
> Try moving to the top of the message and then shift tab once.  That generally 
> leads me to an attachment in OE or Outlook.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
> Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
> Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:00 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment
> 
> Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has 
> an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I 
> tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is 
> there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, 
> a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of 
> important information). Many thanks in advance.
> Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

[Adrian Spratt]

 Actually, what Clifford wrote gives you important information. If you back-tab 
once and don't hear JAWS verbalize "attachment," it usually means there is no 
attachment. That's the case here. For future reference, if the message field 
contains links, then you might not automatically land on the attachment field.
Sometimes what senders call an attachment is actually buried inside the message 
field, and it can usually be found by searching for objects with the quick 
navigation key letter "o," so long as you have email set to HTML. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

No ... that just cycles through the information on the sender, recipient, date 
and subject information. Thanks anyway.

-Original Message-
From: Blackwell, Clifford
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:16 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

Try moving to the top of the message and then shift tab once.  That generally 
leads me to an attachment in OE or Outlook.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has an 
attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I 
tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is there 
some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, a dell 
laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of important 
information). Many thanks in advance.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

[Annette Carr]

Hi,

If the attachment is up in the header below the subject line and above the
body of the message, Shift+Tab will move you there.  However, if the
attached is embedded in the body of the message, as far as I know, you
cannot find it with JAWS.  Maybe someone has more up-to-date information on
this issue.

Annette


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Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has
an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but
I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is
there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows
10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit
of important information). Many thanks in advance.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

[Janie Degenshein]

Yes
Just shift tab when the message is opened and it should be there If not, try 
shift tab again
woo hoo

-Original Message- 
From: Blackwell, Clifford
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:16 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

Try moving to the top of the message and then shift tab once.  That 
generally leads me to an attachment in OE or Outlook.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has 
an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but 
I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is 
there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 
10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit 
of important information). Many thanks in advance.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email

[Rick Ely]

Afternoon list,
There is a plethora of audio only games out there, and all should be easy to
access with a screen reader. A starting point would be Audio Games and the
link is just below. Games are a great way to get someone using a screen
reader.
Have fun,
Rick
http://www.audiogames.net/

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Subash
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:38 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email

Hi, there is a program call Fun with typability. While it's a typing
teaching program, it also has games.
I think it has it's own speach, so JAWS is not required.

-Original Message-
From: David Whitehead
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email

Good morning all;

2 question regarding jaws, and email and games,

Firstly, my client would like a simple email client to work with,

Also, she would like to have the email sync with her Iphone.

Does the outlook express version on the jaws web site work with imap?

Secondly, does anyone no of any word game/s one can play using jaws?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] please tell Russ Keen that he should not be using this device

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- Original Message - 
From: "Joey Lamperis" 
To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 10:25 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] please tell Russ Keen that he should not be using this 
device


Hi list,

Please tell Russ Keen that the triple talk usb is not supported with Jaws.
I don't know why the heck it stopped, but what I do know is the m20 is
still listed as a braille device.
They did not remove that, but removed support for triple talk usb.

Your lister,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

[Maria Campbell]

Yes it comes and goes, but it seems to have something to do with JAWS, 
and I think it started at one of the JAWS 18 upgrades.



lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small 
things, it does not exist at all.

On 6/2/2017 2:50 PM, LeDon wrote:

Whell, what do you know, it's back.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 12:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

I had that overlay thing coming up too. I didn't do a thing and it has
stopped coming up. So it's mysterious Ain't it?

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

Well, I unchecked it, so we'll see what happens.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/25/2017 1:46 PM, net bat66 wrote:

i don't know if this is the same thing.
but in the utility/settings menu. in user there is the option to turn
on or off a virtual viewer. maybe this is the window overlay you are
talking about.

-Original Message- From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

Hi Reed, thanks for letting me know. Same here in the Creators update.
In this "OverlayWindow0, I tried the Jaws cursor, the touch cursor,
but it seems like a phantom window. No way that I see to interact with
this window. I will leave this up to the smart computer technicians.
After all I am just a pinhead. LOL.


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On Behalf Of Reed
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

Hello,



With Windows Version 10.0.14393, when I hit Insert+F10 to show "window
list", I am now seeing this "OverlayWindow0 On Top" that I've never
seen before.

I have seen it just after boot up, after loading Outlook and at other
random times.

When I hit Enter to open it and hit Insert+Q twice quickly, it tells
me "JAWS for Windows settings are used in the jfw.exe application. The
configuration name is JAWS Window. The current scheme is Classic."



When I hit Insert+F1, I get "JAWS may not recognize this control. To
show JAWS what type of control it is, press Insert+7. To see more
technical information on the control, press Control+Insert+F1."



When I hit Control+Insert+F1, I get,

"Window Technical Information:

Control ID  0

Class  OverlayWindowClass_F7A740FA-AB45-4F46-BB58-3DCEDB196F1C

Handle  983746".

So, it shows the Control Id, Class and Handle.  Try saying that Class
real fast.  Bet you can't.



When I use Alt+Tab to cycle through my open programs, I don't land on
this Overlay Window; even when I've opened it from the window list.



Do any of you JAWS experts have an explanation for this Overlay window?





Thanks,



Reed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

[LeDon]

Whell, what do you know, it's back.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of LeDon
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 12:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

I had that overlay thing coming up too. I didn't do a thing and it has
stopped coming up. So it's mysterious Ain't it? 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top

Well, I unchecked it, so we'll see what happens.


lucky1i...@gmail.com
Faithfulness does not begin with large tasks-if it is not present in small
things, it does not exist at all.

On 5/25/2017 1:46 PM, net bat66 wrote:
> i don't know if this is the same thing.
> but in the utility/settings menu. in user there is the option to turn 
> on or off a virtual viewer. maybe this is the window overlay you are 
> talking about.
>
> -Original Message- From: Jim Flusche
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 10:19 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top
>
> Hi Reed, thanks for letting me know. Same here in the Creators update. 
> In this "OverlayWindow0, I tried the Jaws cursor, the touch cursor, 
> but it seems like a phantom window. No way that I see to interact with 
> this window. I will leave this up to the smart computer technicians.
> After all I am just a pinhead. LOL.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
> On Behalf Of Reed
> Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 12:17 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] OverlayWindow0 On Top
>
> Hello,
>
>
>
> With Windows Version 10.0.14393, when I hit Insert+F10 to show "window 
> list", I am now seeing this "OverlayWindow0 On Top" that I've never 
> seen before.
>
> I have seen it just after boot up, after loading Outlook and at other 
> random times.
>
> When I hit Enter to open it and hit Insert+Q twice quickly, it tells 
> me "JAWS for Windows settings are used in the jfw.exe application. The 
> configuration name is JAWS Window. The current scheme is Classic."
>
>
>
> When I hit Insert+F1, I get "JAWS may not recognize this control. To 
> show JAWS what type of control it is, press Insert+7. To see more 
> technical information on the control, press Control+Insert+F1."
>
>
>
> When I hit Control+Insert+F1, I get,
>
> "Window Technical Information:
>
> Control ID  0
>
> Class  OverlayWindowClass_F7A740FA-AB45-4F46-BB58-3DCEDB196F1C
>
> Handle  983746".
>
> So, it shows the Control Id, Class and Handle.  Try saying that Class 
> real fast.  Bet you can't.
>
>
>
> When I use Alt+Tab to cycle through my open programs, I don't land on 
> this Overlay Window; even when I've opened it from the window list.
>
>
>
> Do any of you JAWS experts have an explanation for this Overlay window?
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Reed
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part 2

[Jim Flusche]

Hi Mr. Mike, yes, even a pinhead forgets to paiste the message in the email. 
LOL. Read below.
Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part 2
This is a text tutorial, provided freely by The W-10 and Jaws group, anyone may 
freely share this file.
Author: Jim Flusche

So useing the laptop keyboard layout in Jaws is an advantage, not a drawback.
Again for this lesson I will call the capslock key the Jaws key and the numpad 
insert key, the insert key.
For example: using the laptop keyboard layout, For some Jaws keystrokes you 
must use the Capslock+Shift+Control, plus a key on the keyboard to do them.
For Example, in the laptop keyboard layout, If you are running Jaws from the 
system trey, pressing capslock+Shift+Control+J, Brings up the JAWS options menu 
window, with the options sub menu highlighted for you.
You can also press Numpad Insert+J, in the desktop keyboard layout to bring up 
the JAWS options menu window.
Another example, using the laptop keyboard layout, Pressing 
Capslock+Shift+Control+H, Places JAWS Hot Keys in the Virtual Viewer.
You can review them with the Arrow keys, and press the Escape key to close this 
window.
Using the desktop keyboard layout, pressing the numpad Insert+H, Places JAWS 
Hot Keys in the Virtual Viewer.
In the below lesson I will list the Insert key keystroke, followed by the 
Laptop keyboard layout Capslock key keystroke.
I personally use the Jaws laptop keyboard layout, that way I can choose what 
keyboard keystroke combonations, works best for using both my hands.
So it's very nice to have another Jaws modifier key, to use when pressing Jaws 
keystrokes involving the pressing of many keys on the keyboard.
**Now let us look at how to use Jaws layered keystrokes, Insert+Spacebar, or 
Capslock+Spacebar, followed by a letter.
This means when you press Insert+Spacebar, or Capslock+Spacebar, you will hear 
a ding sound, you then can press a certain letter or key to open one of the 
many options for the Jaws layered keystrokes.
For example: Pressing Insert+Spacebar, or Capslock+Spacebar, followed by the ? 
Question mark, you will hear:
Search commands press J.
Repeat last background notification from Skype press Shift+R.
Show recent speech history press H.
Clear recent speech history press Shift+H.
View text on clipboard press C.
Select text between marked place and current position press M.
Customize web page with Flexible Web press X.
ResearchIt press R.
OCR Feature Layer press O.
Table Navigation Layer press T.
Switch to your recent Windows Live Messages press Number row 1 through 5.
Text Analyzer press A.
Mute Synthesizer press S.
Lock Keyboard press L.
Toggle audio ducking press D, still working on this in the Creators update.
So let us look at most of these layered keystrokes one at a time.
**Pressing either the Numpad Insert+Spacebar, or the Capslock Jaws 
key+Spacebar, followed by the letter J, opens the search for Jaws commands 
window.
For example, after pressing Insert+Spacebar, or Capslock+Spacebar, followed by 
J, You are in a Jaws search for commands edit box, type the word copy, press 
the tab key, you are put in a Jaws HTML page of results.
You can use the Arrow keys or H, for heading or Insert+F7, for a Links list, 
press the Escape key to close this window.
Below is an example of what comes up, when you type the word copy in to the 
Jaws search for commands edit box, and press the Tab key, I have shortened the 
results.
*Copy Selected Text To Clipboard. Control + C
Standard Windows copy command, usually found in the Edit menu, any selected 
text or items will be copied to the Windows Clipboard. The selected items or 
text can then be pasted into another window or application.
*View Clipboard Text. press Insert+Spacebar, or Capslock+Spacebar, followed by 
the letter C.
The Clipboard Text Viewer displays all text that has been copied to the Windows 
Clipboard using the standard Windows Copy and Cut commands, press escape to 
close this window.
*Virtualize Window. Alt + Insert + W or Capslock+ALT+W.
This keystroke displays the text in the current window in the Virtual Viewer. 
You can then select the text and copy and paste it to another application, such 
as an e-mail message. This is especially useful in error dialog boxes, press 
escape to close this window.
*Select Text Between Marked Place And Current Position. Insert+Spacebar, or 
Capslock+Spacebar, followed by the letter M.
This command selects text between the temporary Placemarker and current virtual 
cursor location. You may then use Control+c to copy the selected text to the 
clipboard.
*For example: on a website, press Control+Windows+k, to set a temporary 
Placemarker at the beginning of the text to be copied.
At the end of the text to be copied, press Insert+Spacebar, or 
Capslock+Spacebar, followed by the letter M, all the text in-between has been 
selected, press Control+C to copy all the text.
*Append Selected Text To Clipboard. Insert + Windows + C or 

Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

[jyandt.martin]

No ... that just cycles through the information on the sender, recipient, 
date and subject information. Thanks anyway.


-Original Message- 
From: Blackwell, Clifford

Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:16 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

Try moving to the top of the message and then shift tab once.  That 
generally leads me to an attachment in OE or Outlook.


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Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has 
an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but 
I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is 
there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 
10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit 
of important information). Many thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

[David Whitehead]

Hello try the following;
Perhaps the attachments aren't able to be downloaded?
1, open windows live mail,

Alt+f=file,
Down arrow to options sub-menu,
Right arrow to open,
Up arrow to safety options,
Press enter,

Now ctrl+tab until you hear security,
Now tab and uncheck the boxes,
Warn me when other applications try to send mail as me.
Do not allow attachments to be saved or opened that could 
potentially be a virus.



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Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 2:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has
an attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but
I tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is
there some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows
10, a dell laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit
of important information). Many thanks in advance.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

[Blackwell, Clifford]

Try moving to the top of the message and then shift tab once.  That generally 
leads me to an attachment in OE or Outlook.

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Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 1:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has an 
attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I 
tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is there 
some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, a dell 
laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of important 
information). Many thanks in advance.
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[JAWS-Users] How to find a sent attachment

[jyandt.martin]

Afternoon all. Can anyone tell me how to check for an email message that has an 
attachment in it? I went into my sent folder, and found the message, but I 
tabbed around in the message, but could not find the attachment in it. Is there 
some kind of neat trick for doing this? I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, a dell 
laptop, and WLM version 2012, build 16 (I finally found that bit of important 
information). Many thanks in advance.
Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites

[Subash]

Hi Judy, try opening IE,
Alt T for tools
O for option
Press Shift Control Tab and that will put you on the advance page.
Press E until you hear "Enable suggested sites. If it's off, press to turn 
it on Tab to OK and space.

Try that and see if that does it.

-Original Message- 
From: Justin Williams

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 5:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites

Did anyone suggest favorites?
Justin

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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 5:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites

Judy, another lister posted a solution for you. Did you see that one? I'm
afraid I didn't save the message.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites

Yes, I thought it was the default behavior as well, but I am talking about
sites that I have typed in several times. Judy & Libby


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Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites

In my experience, this is the default behavior. So I'm wondering if you went
to a website before trying to return. The website address won't fill in
until you've gone there at least once.

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Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites

Hi, all, I have gotten a new computer at work. My previous one was set so
that when I went to a website, when I would want to go back to it as soon as
I started typing it, it filled it in and I just hit enter on it. It has been
so long since I set up my home computer I can't remember what to do to get
it to do that on my work one. It has Win 7 and IE 11 and Jaws 12. Thanks in
advance.  Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email

[Subash]

Hi, there is a program call Fun with typability. While it's a typing 
teaching program, it also has games.

I think it has it's own speach, so JAWS is not required.

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email

Good morning all;

2 question regarding jaws, and email and games,

Firstly, my client would like a simple email client to work with,

Also, she would like to have the email sync with her Iphone.

Does the outlook express version on the jaws web site work with imap?

Secondly, does anyone no of any word game/s one can play using jaws?

In advance, thank you.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single

[Brian Lee]

Hello Mr. Ed,

Here are a few things you can try.  If these don't work then deleting the
Normal.DOTM and restarting your system or doing a repair on Word might be
necessary.  Method 3 modifies the line spacing for your normal style.  

Method 1 Using Single Spacing:

Use the application key and choose Paragraph from the menu.
In the indents and spacing page tab of the Paragraph dialog box make sure
the two spin boxes for Before and After are set to 0.
Set line spacing to Single.
For the "At" edit spin box press backspace until nothing is in the box.
The "Don't add space between paragraphs of the same style" checkbox should
be checked.
At this point use OK and check it out in your document.
Go back into the Paragraph dialog box and make sure options are still as you
set them.  
Tab to the Set as Default button and use spacebar.
You will get a dialog box in which you can tab to a group of radio buttons.
"This document only" will likely be checked so arrow down to "All documents
based on the normal.DOTM template.
Tab to OK button and press spacebar.

Method 2, Set line spacing to "Exactly."

In the same control where you choose single or double spacing choose the
option for Exactly.
In the Before and After controls use 0 points.
In the "At" edit spin box 12 points is about right.  This is needed for
leading.  No matter what you set for spacing a certain amount of leading is
necessary for the various types of fonts used and the heights necessary for
characters of the various types of fonts.
Check the "Don't add space between paragraphs of the same style" box. 
Use the button for saving changes as default.
Pick the radio button for changes to be for all templates based on the
normal.DOTM template.
Use OK as necessary.
(This will result in similar line spacing to that used in older versions of
Word).

Method 3, Modify Style:

Use Alt CTRL Shift and S to launch the Styles pane.
Use F6 until in the styles pane.
Use the Manage Styles button.  You will likely find it faster by using Shift
tab until you find it rather than tabbing.
In the resulting window find the Modify button and use it.
In the resulting window use shift tab from the OK button to the Format
button and press enter key.
Arrow down to Paragraph and press enter key.
Change the After control to 0 by using down arrow key.
Change line spacing to Single.
Make sure nothing is in the "At" control.  With focus in the "At" control
use backspace to remove any value.
Use spacebar to check the "Don't add space between paragraphs of the same
style."
Use the OK button.
Use shift tab to the radio buttons that determine if the change is just for
the existing document or all documents.  "New documents based on this
template" should be selected.
Use the OK button.
Use shift tab and you will find the same radio buttons so arrow down to "New
documents based on this template."
Use the OK button.

   After making any of the above changes it is a good idea to restart Word
and maybe even your system.

Take care.

Brian Lee
brianl...@charter.net

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Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: June 1, 2017 4:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single

Hi,
Did that but it still did not save single line spacing as the default when
opening a new word document.
Mr. Ed

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andrew James Bontrager
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single

try changing the paragraph settings while you have the normal.dot template
open, then save the file.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message

[David Ferrin]

Just make sure that you do not include this list in your out of office 
message as we do not allow that practice. Besides it creates a self 
fulfilling problem.


-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message

Morning all.

I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me how to create an “out of 
office” message for Windows Live Mail. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and a 
Dell Laptop. I am uncertain as to the version of WLM (sorry about that). 
Thanks in advance.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message

[jyandt.martin]

Dave: Thanks for that. Can you supply me with the specifics? Thanks again.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...

Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message

Set up a mail rule to trap all incoming messages and reply with a canned
message of your liking.
.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 07:39
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message


Morning all.

I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me how to create an “out of
office” message for Windows Live Mail. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and a
Dell Laptop. I am uncertain as to the version of WLM (sorry about that).
Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message

[Dave ...]

Set up a mail rule to trap all incoming messages and reply with a canned 
message of your liking.
.
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: 
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 07:39
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message


Morning all.

I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me how to create an “out of 
office” message for Windows Live Mail. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and a 
Dell Laptop. I am uncertain as to the version of WLM (sorry about that). 
Thanks in advance.

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[JAWS-Users] Creating "reply" message

[jyandt.martin]

Morning all.

I was wondering if anyone out there can tell me how to create an “out of 
office” message for Windows Live Mail. I am using JAWS 17, Windows 10, and a 
Dell Laptop. I am uncertain as to the version of WLM (sorry about that). Thanks 
in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

[Adrian Spratt]

Ah, got it. An obvious question: did you go through the process of having JAWS 
recognize TripleTalk? On the face of it, you must have, or else it wouldn't be 
working at all. But I ask anyway. I know how important it is to maintain access 
to the synth we like.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I'm a part of the Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration.  I just installed the most 
current version of jaws.  I did contact the company and they said they didn't 
hear of anyone with this issue.  They said they would do some testing.

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

None relating to an external synthesizer that I'm aware of. Again, did this 
problem begin after a JAWS or other update? If not, are you able to contact the 
manufacturer or sales rep? I don't know if the company is still around. 
Sadly, the maker of the Dectalk Express has long since disappeared in a maze of 
mergers.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

Yes, the say all command does work with a software synthesizer.  This is why I 
think it's a tripletalk issue.  Does jaws keep any kind of log file I can look 
at to see what is going on?

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I also have an external synthesizer, Dectalk Express, and I doubt Narrator 
could help me solve the problem if it's with the synth. Do you think it's worth 
trying "say all" with the internal synthesizer, Eloquence, which I think is 
loaded by default. You could find it quickly by pressing JAWS
key+control+s and down-arrowing through the choices.

If you post again, you might indicate if you've updated anything recently, such 
as JAWS. Also, have you unloaded and reloaded JAWS and/or rebooted in case 
either of those operations can fix the problem?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I have the original tripletalk usb.  What happens is, when I  start reading a 
webpage or html document with the jaws say all command, I lose speech after a 
short period of time.  I can't even start narrator on windows 10 to find out 
what happened.

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[JAWS-Users] please tell Russ Keen that he should not be using this device

[Joey Lamperis]

Hi list,

Please tell Russ Keen that the triple talk usb is not supported with Jaws.
I don't know why the heck it stopped, but what I do know is the m20 is
still listed as a braille device.
They did not remove that, but removed support for triple talk usb.

Your lister,

Joseph Lamperis

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Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

[Jared Rimer]

Me too, but I think MSE is it, and sadly, at least with 7, it doesn't 
seem to be doing a good job.


On 6/2/2017 04:51, Dennis Long wrote:

I don't know I would love to see Jaws script some anti virus programs to be
accessible.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:56 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

If it doesn't, what will?  I have not made any changes yet, but MSE isn't
cutting it for my needs.  I get a lot of files and attachments and it does
not pick it up, even when I examine the files to see what they are.  Some
may be harmful, so need something that works.  I don't expect perfect, but
Thomas recommended it, so would love to hear how it works before I comit to
getting MSE off and  doing all of this work to get nowhere.

On 6/1/2017 21:00, Dennis Long wrote:

It doesn't work well from what I found.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read
anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can
read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these
would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I
too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA
did a little better, but it was not perfect.

-Original Message-
From: Jared Rimer
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

OK,

I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote
recommended to me.  Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this

with Jaws?


On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote:

The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid
version a while ago , its simple and accessible.
That's at least 10 years or so ago.
But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven.
But I highly recommend sophos.
https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords
m
_mediu
m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term
= sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise
protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in
company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that
they have the free version for home, so you should try them.


regards
Thomas N. Chan

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it.  Do
you have a link?

On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote:


Hello,

I am using Panda, the free version of Panda.

In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of
JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I
can use the tab to go from option to option.

I wish you success.

Aran

-Original Message- From: Jared Rimer
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus.
Part of the page says:

The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is
to use the EICAR test file.

The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European
Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus
Research Organization.

To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into
a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:"

The URL to the full post is at:


https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-i
s -worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter


for your review.  When i went to send the original message intending
to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which
means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written
below.  A bit concerning.



I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it.

I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it
would pick up the file.   I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my
drives.  I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site
that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this
particular file I had up.  MSE never picked it up.  Now that I'm a
Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws?

I've got Windows 7, 64 bit.  I don't think MSE is doing the trick
anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got
flagged for review.  It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i
knew was dangerous, but I 

Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

[Jared Rimer]

Joseph,

You do have a valid point today, but if it is something known, the 
antivirus should be able to pick it up.  The fact a file sat on my 
machine so I could see how MSE performed with it and  it never picked it 
up and I knew it was infected gave me the hint that it wasn't seemingly 
to work.  I'll give it a look.


On 6/2/2017 05:05, Joseph Freetech wrote:

You might want to install the antivirus for yourself rather than waiting for
others to do so. You can then amplify the knowledge on the list by posting
whether it is accessible or not.

I will add that there is absolutely no fail-proof antivirus. All it takes is
you clicking on a single popup such as a supposed windows update to become
infected. Antivirus nowadays is almost worthless in terms of protecting your
computer as most attacks are social in nature which trick the end user into
allowing files to run on your computer.

I've been using MSE for about 7 years now without a single hint of
infection. I've been running it on Windows7, Win8, and W10--all of my
machines.

Joseph the free tech guy!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

[Russ Kiehne]

I'm a part of the Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration.  I just installed the most 
current version of jaws.  I did contact the company and they said they 
didn't hear of anyone with this issue.  They said they would do some 
testing.


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

None relating to an external synthesizer that I'm aware of. Again, did this 
problem begin after a JAWS or other update? If not, are you able to contact 
the manufacturer or sales rep? I don't know if the company is still around. 
Sadly, the maker of the Dectalk Express has long since disappeared in a maze 
of mergers.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

Yes, the say all command does work with a software synthesizer.  This is why 
I think it's a tripletalk issue.  Does jaws keep any kind of log file I can 
look at to see what is going on?


-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I also have an external synthesizer, Dectalk Express, and I doubt Narrator 
could help me solve the problem if it's with the synth. Do you think it's 
worth trying "say all" with the internal synthesizer, Eloquence, which I 
think is loaded by default. You could find it quickly by pressing JAWS

key+control+s and down-arrowing through the choices.

If you post again, you might indicate if you've updated anything recently, 
such as JAWS. Also, have you unloaded and reloaded JAWS and/or rebooted in 
case either of those operations can fix the problem?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I have the original tripletalk usb.  What happens is, when I  start reading 
a webpage or html document with the jaws say all command, I lose speech 
after a short period of time.  I can't even start narrator on windows 10 to 
find out what happened.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

[Adrian Spratt]

None relating to an external synthesizer that I'm aware of. Again, did this 
problem begin after a JAWS or other update? If not, are you able to contact the 
manufacturer or sales rep? I don't know if the company is still around. Sadly, 
the maker of the Dectalk Express has long since disappeared in a maze of 
mergers. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

Yes, the say all command does work with a software synthesizer.  This is why I 
think it's a tripletalk issue.  Does jaws keep any kind of log file I can look 
at to see what is going on?

-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I also have an external synthesizer, Dectalk Express, and I doubt Narrator 
could help me solve the problem if it's with the synth. Do you think it's worth 
trying "say all" with the internal synthesizer, Eloquence, which I think is 
loaded by default. You could find it quickly by pressing JAWS 
key+control+s and down-arrowing through the choices.

If you post again, you might indicate if you've updated anything recently, such 
as JAWS. Also, have you unloaded and reloaded JAWS and/or rebooted in case 
either of those operations can fix the problem?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I have the original tripletalk usb.  What happens is, when I  start reading a 
webpage or html document with the jaws say all command, I lose speech after a 
short period of time.  I can't even start narrator on windows 10 to find out 
what happened.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part 2

[Russ Kiehne]

This message seems to have nothing regarding Creators update, The Insert and 
Escape keys, your best friend part 2?


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Flusche

Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best 
friend part 2


Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part 2



From your humble Pinhead!

A Ballast for My Soul

Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

Author: Perry Boardman

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Key Labels Speaking

[Mike B.]

Hi Steven,

Try the following:
1. Open the Settings Center with, Insert + 6 on the number row, & press, 
Control, Shift + D, to open Settings Center Default All Applications.
2. Arrow down to, Keyboard, & press right arrow to open.
3. Arrow down to, Manage Key Labels, & press the spacebar to open. 
Note:  Do not press enter, pressing enter will close the Settings Center.
4. After pressing the spacebar you will be in a list of keys.  Arrow down to 
the key you want to mute, & Tab 1 time to the, Toggle Mute Button, & press 
the spacebar to mute.  You'll hear Jaws announce, for example the Tab key, 
Tab Tab mute.
5. Tab to, Okay, press the spacebar, tab to, Apply, press the spacebar, tab 
to, Okay, & press enter to save your change & close the Settings Center.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the 
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
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To: 'JAWS-Users-List@JAWS-Users.COM'
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:44 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Key Labels Speaking


Hi friends,

Can anyone advise me of how I can turn off various key lables like alt+tab 
being spoken etc?

Many thanks in anticipation,





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

[Russ Kiehne]

Yes, the say all command does work with a software synthesizer.  This is why 
I think it's a tripletalk issue.  Does jaws keep any kind of log file I can 
look at to see what is going on?


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I also have an external synthesizer, Dectalk Express, and I doubt Narrator 
could help me solve the problem if it's with the synth. Do you think it's 
worth trying "say all" with the internal synthesizer, Eloquence, which I 
think is loaded by default. You could find it quickly by pressing JAWS 
key+control+s and down-arrowing through the choices.


If you post again, you might indicate if you've updated anything recently, 
such as JAWS. Also, have you unloaded and reloaded JAWS and/or rebooted in 
case either of those operations can fix the problem?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I have the original tripletalk usb.  What happens is, when I  start reading 
a webpage or html document with the jaws say all command, I lose speech 
after a short period of time.  I can't even start narrator on windows 10 to 
find out what happened.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email

[Dennis Long]

Yes the Outlook Express version the jaws website supports Imap.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:23 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] question regarding email

Good morning all;

2 question regarding jaws, and email and games,

Firstly, my client would like a simple email client to work with, 

Also, she would like to have the email sync with her Iphone.

Does the outlook express version on the jaws web site work with imap?

Secondly, does anyone no of any word game/s one can play using jaws?

In advance, thank you.

 

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[JAWS-Users] question about Ultra ISO

[David Ferrin]

I have started to figure this program out a little bit. So far I can modify 
a bootable ISO file and resave it to make my own custom win PE images just 
adding a couple of items to what Carlos has already created. BTW he does a 
great job. Now I would like to create a bootable ISO from scratch so to 
speak for the purposes of wiping an old drive before I get rid of it. Any 
pointers in that direction would be greatly appreciated.
David Ferrin
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[JAWS-Users] question regarding email

[David Whitehead]

Good morning all;

2 question regarding jaws, and email and games,

Firstly, my client would like a simple email client to work with, 

Also, she would like to have the email sync with her Iphone.

Does the outlook express version on the jaws web site work with imap?

Secondly, does anyone no of any word game/s one can play using jaws?

In advance, thank you.

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single

[Dialup]

Hello Mr Ed
Groan.  Don't you hate PC's when they behave way outside the spec.
So there's something going on that 'over rides' the default settings.
What about deleting the normal.dotx template file from Windows Explorer.
Word 'should' rebuild it the next time you launch it.  I say 'should' 
with trepidation.

YMMV.
Good luck
Glen

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On 2-Jun-2017 11:34 am, Mr. Ed wrote:

Hi Glen,
I have done that same procedure numerus times on two different computers I own. 
It does not change it to single line spacing. I had Microsoft Disability line 
look at it and they could not get it to work either. I tried doing it on both 
my computers and it does the same thing. It does not default to single line 
spacing. The only way I can get it to type in single line spacing is put 1 in 
the box and check the box about line spacing for paragraph and then press ok. 
Then it will type in single line spacing until I close word and reopen a new 
word document and then it is back to double line spacing even though it says 
single line spacing in the dialog box.
Thanks for your help and assistance.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: Dialup@56k [mailto:dialup...@bigpond.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 6:41 PM
To: Mr. Ed
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single

Mr Ed
Try this:
Press Alt + P, PG to open the paragraph options box.
Press Alt + A to move the focus to the Line Spacing At box and enter the number 
1.
Press TAB to move the focus to the Defaults button and press enter.
In the pop up window, press Alt + A to select the radio button labelled 'All 
Documents based on the Normal.dotm template'
TAB to the OK button and press enter.
Restart Word and see how that goes.
Glen

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On 2-Jun-2017 9:27 am, Mr. Ed wrote:

Hi,
Did that but it still did not save single line spacing as the default
when opening a new word document.
Mr. Ed

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On Behalf Of Andrew James Bontrager
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 10:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to
single

try changing the paragraph settings while you have the normal.dot
template open, then save the file.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

[Dennis Long]

I don't know I would love to see Jaws script some anti virus programs to be
accessible.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 12:56 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

If it doesn't, what will?  I have not made any changes yet, but MSE isn't
cutting it for my needs.  I get a lot of files and attachments and it does
not pick it up, even when I examine the files to see what they are.  Some
may be harmful, so need something that works.  I don't expect perfect, but
Thomas recommended it, so would love to hear how it works before I comit to
getting MSE off and  doing all of this work to get nowhere.

On 6/1/2017 21:00, Dennis Long wrote:
> It doesn't work well from what I found.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 11:55 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
> 
> I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read 
> anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can 
> read is a number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these 
> would either require sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I 
> too would like serious help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA 
> did a little better, but it was not perfect.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jared Rimer
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM
> To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
> 
> OK,
> 
> I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote 
> recommended to me.  Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this
with Jaws?
> 
> On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote:
>> The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/ I used to use the paid 
>> version a while ago , its simple and accessible.
>> That's at least 10 years or so ago.
>> But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven.
>> But I highly recommend sophos.
>> https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords
>> m
>> _mediu
>> m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term
>> = sophos they also have a free version. The business and enterprise 
>> protection from them are just state of the art. I set them up in 
>> company network like the UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that 
>> they have the free version for home, so you should try them.
>>
>> 
>> regards
>> Thomas N. Chan
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
>> On Behalf Of Jared Rimer
>> Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM
>> To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
>>
>> I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it.  Do 
>> you have a link?
>>
>> On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am using Panda, the free version of Panda.
>>>
>>> In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of 
>>> JAWS and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I 
>>> can use the tab to go from option to option.
>>>
>>> I wish you success.
>>>
>>> Aran
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Jared Rimer
>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM
>>> To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question
>>>
>>> So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus.  
>>> Part of the page says:
>>>
>>> The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is 
>>> to use the EICAR test file.
>>>
>>> The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European 
>>> Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and Computer Antivirus 
>>> Research Organization.
>>>
>>> To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into 
>>> a blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:"
>>>
>>> The URL to the full post is at:
>>>
>> https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-i
>> s -worki ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter
>>>
>>> for your review.  When i went to send the original message intending 
>>> to keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which 
>>> means it worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written 
>>> below.  A bit concerning.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it.
>>>
>>> I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it
>>> would pick up the file.   I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my
>>> drives.  I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site 
>>> that I found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this 
>>> particular file I had up.  MSE never picked it up.  Now that I'm a 
>>> Jaws user, what antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws?
>>>
>>> I've got Windows 7, 64 

Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[Dennis Long]

Yes please.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 2:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Sorry, a bit behind on my emails, do you still need this?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: 30 May 2017 08:14
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Could you please post the link?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Just google search it, let me know if you can't find it and I will send you
a link.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: 29 May 2017 19:47
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Thank you for the help where do I get the most update to date MS security
essentials?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I imagine mSE will continue to be updated until Microsoft no longer supports
it, at which time you'll probably suddenly find you have Windows Defender
instead, or will be told you need to upgrade to it. mS is good at this;
you'll always be notified so long as you don't mess around with your
autoupdate settings too much.

This article may help you:
https://www.howtogeek.com/225385/what%e2%80%99s-the-best-antivirus-for-windo
ws-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/

The info there pertains to Windows Defender specifically but probably
applies to MSE just as well at this time. And I'd say a 94% success rate (or
so) is more than sufficient for most people.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Where do you get ms security is it still being updated?  How does it rank
today for stopping viruses?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the
JAWS cursor and check it out.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the 
> major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by 
> using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor 
> will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your 
> database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the 
> History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But 
> if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just 
> fine with JAWS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scorpio
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security
Essentials?
>
> I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the 
> program.
>
> Could you please explain?
>
> Scorpio
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
>
> Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS 
> cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program 
> available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in 
> terms of anti-virus protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and 
> Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best
alternative for JAWS users.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
> To: jaws-users-list
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let 
> me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Key Labels Speaking

[Eric Damery]

Hi,

1. Go to settings center. 
2. Search for "manage key".
3. Down arrow to manage key labels and press space at. 

In here, you can mute "tab" to get what you want. 

Listen to demo of this feature on FS Cast 139. 

Regards,
Eric

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> On Jun 2, 2017, at 5:46 AM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS 
> TRUST)  wrote:
> 
> Hi friends,
> 
> Can anyone advise me of how I can turn off various key lables like alt+tab 
> being spoken etc?
> 
> Many thanks in anticipation,
> 
> 
> 
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[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Hi friends,

Can anyone advise me of how I can turn off various key lables like alt+tab 
being spoken etc?

Many thanks in anticipation,





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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites

[Justin Williams]

Did anyone suggest favorites?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 5:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites

Judy, another lister posted a solution for you. Did you see that one? I'm
afraid I didn't save the message.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 5:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites

Yes, I thought it was the default behavior as well, but I am talking about
sites that I have typed in several times. Judy & Libby

 
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 11:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites

In my experience, this is the default behavior. So I'm wondering if you went
to a website before trying to return. The website address won't fill in
until you've gone there at least once.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting computer to remember websites

Hi, all, I have gotten a new computer at work. My previous one was set so
that when I went to a website, when I would want to go back to it as soon as
I started typing it, it filled it in and I just hit enter on it. It has been
so long since I set up my home computer I can't remember what to do to get
it to do that on my work one. It has Win 7 and IE 11 and Jaws 12. Thanks in
advance.  Judy & Libby

 

 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single

[Gary Ray]

Gary Ray here.

I am getting into this thread late.

But, I think editing the normal template might be the answer, but it has
been so long since I did this that I don't really remember how to do it.
There may be someone else on the list who can remember how to do this under
Win 10.

Sorry!

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 11:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single

Hi, Ed.

Remember, in my case my default is double-space. And yes, every time I open
word, the document is double-spaced. I know you want every document to open
with single-spacing, and I'm racking my brains to think why your Word
default is acting differently from mine. 

I hate to suggest a repair, but did the MS people suggest doing an MS Office
repair? It's simple to do and doesn't take terribly long. If this interests
you, post again and I'll gladly give you the steps.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 7:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single

Hi Adrian,
Yes I have just selected single line and press the ok button.  When I have
done this it still types in double line spacing even though it says single
in the space box. I have two W10 computers running Word 2010 and they both
do the exact same thing. The only way I can get it to single line space is
to put the number 1 in the at box right after you tab from single then I
have to put a check mark in where is says, Don't add space between
paragraphs of the same style check box. Then I can press ok then it will
type in single line spacing. Then if I close word and re-open Word then it
will type in double line spacing even though it shows single line spacing in
the paragraph dialog box. I had the Microsoft Disability line work on it and
they could not get it to stay on single line spacing.
So let me ask you one question. When you are using your word and you first
open it up does it type in single space or double space?
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 10:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line saving to single

Hi, Ed.

In your first set of steps, you don't mention pressing Okay. Did you?

Your second set of steps, based on my experience, shouldn't be necessary and
may be creating a problem.

Going back to your first set of steps, when you select single space, don't
press enter. Just leave it selected, then tab to Okay and press
spacebar/enter.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 7:09 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List 2
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Making Word 2010 default line spaving to single

Hi Everyone.

I press the application key in Word 2010 and press P to go to paragraph.
Then I change the space to single. But it still does not type in single line
spacing. Then I went back into the paragraph dialog box and 

I then put a 1 in the At box and check the box that said not to space after
a paragraph. Then press ok. Then it typed in single line. But then I opened
a new document and it was back to double line spacing. I went back into the
pargraph dialog box and made all the same changes again and press save as
default button. But it did not save it. Anyone have any ideas on what I am
doing wrong to get word to stay defaulted to single line spacing?

Mr. Ed

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

[HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)]

Sorry, a bit behind on my emails, do you still need this?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: 30 May 2017 08:14
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Could you please post the link?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 2:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Just google search it, let me know if you can't find it and I will send you a 
link.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: 29 May 2017 19:47
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Thank you for the help where do I get the most update to date MS security 
essentials?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

I imagine mSE will continue to be updated until Microsoft no longer supports 
it, at which time you'll probably suddenly find you have Windows Defender 
instead, or will be told you need to upgrade to it. mS is good at this; you'll 
always be notified so long as you don't mess around with your autoupdate 
settings too much.

This article may help you:
https://www.howtogeek.com/225385/what%e2%80%99s-the-best-antivirus-for-windo
ws-10-is-windows-defender-good-enough/

The info there pertains to Windows Defender specifically but probably applies 
to MSE just as well at this time. And I'd say a 94% success rate (or
so) is more than sufficient for most people.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Where do you get ms security is it still being updated?  How does it rank today 
for stopping viruses?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials

Interesting, I'll have to check the help files about how to switch to the JAWS 
cursor and check it out.

Later...



On 5/28/2017 6:16 AM, Gerald Levy  wrote:
>
> It is not absolutely necessary to use the JAWS cursor to access the
> major components of MSE.  But you can obtain additional information by
> using it. For instance, on the Home tab, switching to the JAWS cursor
> will provide details about your most recent scan and whether your
> database definitions are up to date.  Using the JAWS cursor on the
> History tab will provide details on any detected malware threats. But
> if you prefer not to use the JAWS cursor, MSE will still work just
> fine with JAWS.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Scorpio
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 8:09 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
> Gerald, where do you have to use the Jaws Cursor on MS Security
Essentials?
>
> I don't think I've ever had to use the Jaws cursor for any part of the
> program.
>
> Could you please explain?
>
> Scorpio
>
> -Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:55 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
>
>
> Yes, MSE is totally accessible with JAWS as long as you use  the JAWS
> cursor.  This is probably the most accessible anti-virus program
> available, although it may not necessarily be the highest-rated in
> terms of anti-virus protection.  But given the fact that both AVG and
> Avast are now both no longer accessible, MSE is probably the best
alternative for JAWS users.
>
> Gerald
>
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> -Original Message- From: Tom Clary
> Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 7:40 AM
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> Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws 17 and ms security essentials
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> if anyone out there that uses ms security  essentials could please let
> me know if it's easy to navigate with jaws
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