Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i insert rows in an excell doc

2018-06-28 Thread andy
Thank you so much, I knew it was easy. 


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Hit the application key, I for insert, them press enter, then r for row, and
press enter.

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do i insert rows in an excell doc

Hello,

I have been all over the internet and it is getting late and I am getting
low on patience. 

Can anyone tell me how to insert a row in excel?

I am making a list of all the braille symbols and I forget one here and
there so I need to go back and insert it.

 

Also, if anyone would like a copy of this excel, just ask. 

I put in notes where there are old symbols that are not used anymore and new
if it was changed. 

 

Thanks a bunch

andy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] how do i insert rows in an excell doc

2018-06-28 Thread Justin Williams
Hit the application key, I for insert, them press enter, then r for row, and
press enter.

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Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 9:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] how do i insert rows in an excell doc

Hello,

I have been all over the internet and it is getting late and I am getting
low on patience. 

Can anyone tell me how to insert a row in excel?

I am making a list of all the braille symbols and I forget one here and
there so I need to go back and insert it.

 

Also, if anyone would like a copy of this excel, just ask. 

I put in notes where there are old symbols that are not used anymore and new
if it was changed. 

 

Thanks a bunch

andy

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[JAWS-Users] how do i insert rows in an excell doc

2018-06-28 Thread andy
Hello,

I have been all over the internet and it is getting late and I am getting
low on patience. 

Can anyone tell me how to insert a row in excel?

I am making a list of all the braille symbols and I forget one here and
there so I need to go back and insert it.

 

Also, if anyone would like a copy of this excel, just ask. 

I put in notes where there are old symbols that are not used anymore and new
if it was changed. 

 

Thanks a bunch

andy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Excel cells now reading differently

2018-06-28 Thread miketmote73
Hi there!  I have encountered some issues with Excel as well.  I ended up
having to reinstall the desktop application.  I hate to say it, but you may
have to do that.  I noticed that there is a Windows app from the store
called Excel.  If this is installed, it will give you fits.  


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Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 3:30 PM
To: JAWS USERS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Excel cells now reading differently

Hello all,
I am using JAWS 2018 and Office 365 in Windows 10 1803.
I have just noticed the last week or 2 a very annoying event in Excel.
I have a Description in a cell as follows, "June 27 payroll draw"
When I go to that cell and press F2 and begin to arrow right each time I
arrow right JAWS reads me "June 27 payroll draw" instead of "J" then "U"
etc.
This is more than annoying because if I did not have a little residual sight
I would have no way of knowing where the cursor is to delete the 7 and
replace with 8.
Is anyone else finding this in Excel recently?
I feel like the little white ball bouncing between Microsoft and VFO's
paddles of "improvement."
 
George A. Martinez, Accountant
12231 N. 50th Ave.
Glendale, AZ 85304
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"He who loses money, loses much; He who loses a friend, loses much more; He
who loses faith, loses all."  Eleanor Roosevelt
 
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[JAWS-Users] Excel cells now reading differently

2018-06-28 Thread George Martinez Sr
Hello all,
I am using JAWS 2018 and Office 365 in Windows 10 1803.
I have just noticed the last week or 2 a very annoying event in Excel.
I have a Description in a cell as follows, "June 27 payroll draw"
When I go to that cell and press F2 and begin to arrow right each time I
arrow right JAWS reads me "June 27 payroll draw" instead of "J" then "U"
etc.
This is more than annoying because if I did not have a little residual sight
I would have no way of knowing where the cursor is to delete the 7 and
replace with 8.
Is anyone else finding this in Excel recently?
I feel like the little white ball bouncing between Microsoft and VFO's
paddles of "improvement."
 
George A. Martinez, Accountant
12231 N. 50th Ave.
Glendale, AZ 85304
O-602.368.8854
F-1-888.822.0282
C-602.368.5424
 
"He who loses money, loses much; He who loses a friend, loses much more; He
who loses faith, loses all."  Eleanor Roosevelt
 
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[JAWS-Users] DecTalk Synthesizer Problem

2018-06-28 Thread Steve

BlankTalk of different synthesizers brought to mind a problem I've had for
quite some time.

A few years ago, something -- either a new Jaws update, or an update to the
Microsoft Visual C-plus-plus broke the external Dectalk's synthesizer
interface.

I vaguely recall something about this on possibly another list.

Has anybody encountered this issue and is there a solution?

Steve
Lansing, MI

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Changing Voices

2018-06-28 Thread JM Casey
I guess jAWS will work with a lot of SAPI5 voices. I have never tried to
install any, but your Windows computer probably came with the standard
microsoft ones. You can select those from the Jaws, Options, Voices menu.
Select "choose a voice profile".

If you want to download some of the Vocalizer voices, go to the synthesizer
download page at Freedom Scientific. There is a link to it in the JAWS help
menu. On that page, you can select your language, and the type of synth
voice you want, either in a pack with other voices sharing the same
language, or in premium editions as a single voice. The premium downloads
are fairly large; around 300 mb each as I recall. It's an .msi installer
package, so you run it like you would a standard Windows installer and
follow the prompts. Then, restart JAWS, and the new voice(s) will be
available to you.



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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Changing Voices

I Would like to try a few different vioces for JAWS, I have always used
Eloquence, can anyone give me the quick steps to try this please?






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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

2018-06-28 Thread JM Casey
Hey.

Try one of the ones we were talking about. CoreTemp is pretty
straight-forward.

As for the laptop problem, you're definitely not the only one. I understand
it's very common. My girlfriend's laptop is a crappy little E-machine
running Windows 7. It only has a single processor and, while I don't know
what it's running at, the computer is pretty much useless for any kind of
multitasking, and now that it's getting pretty hot here, overheat shutdowns
are common. 

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Audiobookfan
Sent: June 28, 2018 12:37 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds,
temperature and JAWS

Thanks for the suggestions. I saved your previous email, so I'll go back and
take a look at that. One of the computers is running Vista, the other is
running Windows 7 and neither have been reformatted, so the driver issue is
unlikely. Plus, the Windows 7 computer had the problem from day one, even
when not running JAWS or any screen reader. It was my sighted wife's
computer and it would shut down sometimes while she was watching Netflix.
She got so frustrated, she quit using the Windows computer altogether. She
does everything on her iPad now.

I have no idea what the temperatures are. I'll have to go find one of those
programs that lets me check those values.

Thanks again for the suggestions.

Jeff


On 6/27/2018 9:39 AM, Valiant8086 wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> 
> The only computer I had which actually powered off do to temp control 
> issues was an HP Dm4. It had an intel core i5 first gen I believe. It 
> would climb all the way up to 220 degrees. If it hit 221, *click*.
> 
> 
> What happens here is likely what I believe you refer to as a target 
> junction or tj max for short. It's a max temp the cpu tollerates, if 
> it reaches that, it abruptly powers off. The system should be 
> employing throttling to prevent the cpu from reaching this point but 
> it sounds like your laptops don't bother.
> 
> 
> TJ max varries, most modern core i processors like 212, intel atom 
> processors were 198 or so, and btw I always speak in terms of degrees 
> f, not celsius.
> 
> 
> So, I can think of two possibilities at this point. First is that the 
> manufacturers of those machines assumed those machines would never 
> potentially reach tj max while stressed and running at full wattage 
> for ever. If that's the explanation that works, then your solution is 
> to figure out why they do have that potential now. If the exhaust fans 
> are getting clogged a few squirts of compressed air out of a can, not 
> an air compressor may do the trick. I don't recommend an air 
> compressor because it may blow rust or water along with the air and 
> that delicate little fan in there could do without either of those.
> 
> 
> The other possibility is that the systems were in fact originally 
> designed with software and drivers that would employ speed stepping or 
> some other variation to do exactly what you said, throttle back the 
> cpu when it is approaching tj max. That could probably be fixed by 
> installing a missing system driver. If you've ever clean formatted the 
> system this may be the problem. I suppose it might also be possible 
> that an upgrade to windows 10, even if it was already on windows 10, 
> accidentally nuked a driver that took care of this.
> 
> 
> I believe that usually the bios takes control of this when the OS 
> doesn't, or doesn't even allow the OS to control it, but I'm also sure 
> it's possible for that to be different. A really old Acer Aspire 3000+ 
> laptop I had way back in the early 2000s used an AMD simpron 1.8ghz 
> processor. It ran really hot all the time. On day I somehow discovered 
> that I was missing a chipset driver or some software package like that 
> which I never apparently installed after reformatting the system early 
> on. That helped make it run a lot cooler, this was before I was into 
> watching clock speeds with core temp and such.
> 
> 
> You could try setting the max processor state lower and see if your 
> laptops run cooler, a previous email of mine in this thread explains 
> that process.
> 
> 
> Lastly, you could run core temp and minimize it to try and check it 
> frequently while you attempt to stress the laptops and see what temps 
> are being realized, if they're staying reasonable but powering off 
> then there's probably a different issue at play
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers:
> Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy 
> Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
> http://valiantGalaxy.com;
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/27/2018 12:19 AM, Audiobookfan wrote:
>> This is an interesting thread. The mention of laptops overheating and 
>> shutting down especially caught my attention. I thought I might be 
>> the only person in the world experiencing this problem, but I have 2 
>> different laptops from different manufacturers which both exhibit 

[JAWS-Users] Changing Voices

2018-06-28 Thread HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
I Would like to try a few different vioces for JAWS, I have always used 
Eloquence, can anyone give me the quick steps to try this please?





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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

2018-06-28 Thread HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
You could try Speedfan, that is a brilliant programme, not sure when it was 
last updated though.


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Dennis Long
Sent: 25 June 2018 09:12
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, 
temperature and JAWS

What programs are accessible that will say the temperatures of the hard drive 
and your processors?

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Of JM Casey
Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2018 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, 
temperature and JAWS

Hey everyone.



So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and JAWS 
18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes, these specs 
are all relevant to the topic.



For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, or 
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when JAWS is 
running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively affect JAWS 
response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, the "freezes" seem 
to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps particularly Firefox 
and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between open windows seems 
rather sluggish.



Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software called 
WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software tools available, 
that measures your computer's performance by calculating various factors. It 
measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of your CPUs using 
the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running at a cool 20-something 
celsius. It was also running at less than half its advertised clockspeed, the 
programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs were being "throttled" to 
conserve power.



Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in weird 
ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've completely 
gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this reason. I'm also 
aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on them becomes 
particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for instance actually 
manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little experiment. I 
remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my computer 
from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", to 
"optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.



I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor 
speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more power, 
which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board, 
reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher according to 
the coretemp utility).



However - JAWS is now behaving much more responsively. I haven't had any 
freezes. Alt-tab cycles between programmes nearly instantaneously, and Firefox 
seems much faster.



I don't really have a question for the list. I just thought this was kind of an 
interesting thing to share, and wondered if anyone else had observed anything 
similar. It is a fact that with my current setup I am normally at a speed 
disadvantage when placed against sighted users. This is, I believe, in part 
because JAWS is somewhat resource-intensive, especially using this type of 
synthesiser (yes, I have considered switching back to Eloquence). I'm not sure 
if I ought to keep my setup this way. I don't particularly want a really high 
power bill and I don't want my computer to overheat, though in theory the 
automatic cutoffs should engage before anything really bad happens. I actually 
think it's nice that Windows includes power saving features, but not 
necessarily at the expense of system performance.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, temperature and JAWS

2018-06-28 Thread HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Hi,

Using the power plans can make a difference, basically the CPU's will slow down 
when not under high load, this is to conserver battery.


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Casey
Sent: 25 June 2018 00:32
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] interesting thoughts/finding about CPU speeds, 
temperature and JAWS

Hey everyone.



So, I am running an AMD with six processors rated at, apparently, around
3500 MHZ. My system has 8 GB of Ram and is running Windows 10, 1803, and JAWS 
18. My preferred voice is the premium Daniel Vocalizer voice. Yes, these specs 
are all relevant to the topic.



For some time now, I have noticed a certain tendency of my system to lag, or 
lock up, for several seconds at a time. This only seems to happen when JAWS is 
running. I'm aware that my choice to use this synth does negatively affect JAWS 
response time, even on this reasonably fast system. Anyway, the "freezes" seem 
to affect some programmes more than others, but perhaps particularly Firefox 
and MS Office products. Sometimes, alt-tabbing between open windows seems 
rather sluggish.



Well, today I ran a utility from a company called Resplendent Software called 
WhySoSlow. It's basically one of dozens of diagnostic software tools available, 
that measures your computer's performance by calculating various factors. It 
measures your CPU speed, memory load, and the temperature of your CPUs using 
the sensors that modern PCs have. The system was running at a cool 20-something 
celsius. It was also running at less than half its advertised clockspeed, the 
programme informed me, and suggested that my CPUs were being "throttled" to 
conserve power.



Now, I'm aware that some of these third party utilities measure specs in weird 
ways, or make strange and not always advisable recommendations. I've completely 
gone off using registry cleaners or any such tools for this reason. I'm also 
aware that modern CPUs can "clock up" when the load on them becomes 
particularly intensive, but I don't know how well Windows for instance actually 
manages this feature. However, I decided to try a little experiment. I 
remembered fiddling a bit with the power settings in Windows
10 previously, but not to any great extent - mostly just to prevent my computer 
from "going to sleep" when left unattended. In the "power plan"
settings within power options, I adjusted the power plan from "balanced", to 
"optimise for performance", to see if it would make a difference.



I then ran WhySoSlow again. My computer is now operating at peak processor 
speed, all of the time. I suppose it's also using a hell of a lot more power, 
which might not be a good thing. It's also not "running cool"
anymore. In fact, the CPU temperature has doubled all across the board, 
reaching as high as 65 C, according to this programme (even higher according to 
the coretemp utility).



However - JAWS is now behaving much more responsively. I haven't had any 
freezes. Alt-tab cycles between programmes nearly instantaneously, and Firefox 
seems much faster.



I don't really have a question for the list. I just thought this was kind of an 
interesting thing to share, and wondered if anyone else had observed anything 
similar. It is a fact that with my current setup I am normally at a speed 
disadvantage when placed against sighted users. This is, I believe, in part 
because JAWS is somewhat resource-intensive, especially using this type of 
synthesiser (yes, I have considered switching back to Eloquence). I'm not sure 
if I ought to keep my setup this way. I don't particularly want a really high 
power bill and I don't want my computer to overheat, though in theory the 
automatic cutoffs should engage before anything really bad happens. I actually 
think it's nice that Windows includes power saving features, but not 
necessarily at the expense of system performance.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Deactivating an Authorization on a Computer to Transfer to Another Computer

2018-06-28 Thread HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
You can't de-activate and move it, you can only re-install and activate as far 
as I am aware which wil use up a counter.
This is a function that would be really useful in my opinion, so that you could 
uninstall your activation before re-building your machine and not keep using up 
your activation counters and requesting a reset.


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Matthew Chao
Sent: 22 June 2018 12:59
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Deactivating an Authorization on a Computer to Transfer 
to Another Computer

Hi, Folks.  I want to de-authorize one computer and reactivate/authorize on 
another computer.  How do I go about doing this.  I have four computers and 
need three, so I have to pick one to de-authorize and put onto another 
computer.  Thanks in advance for your help.--Matthew Chao


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