Re: [JAWS-Users] major announcement

[Andy Baracco]

Good luck! earlier this week groups.io suffered some kind of issue, and many 
people received messages from the server saying that their accounts had been 
suspended because of bounces. This happened to me several times in the 
course of a single day, and affected all groups on that server that I was 
subscribed to.  i had to keep going to the web site and unbouncing myself. 
The issue seems to have cleared up now, and yesterday I received almost 700 
back messages.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 9:00 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] major announcement


I am considering moving the list over to groups IO as I understand they 
seem to have less problems of being bounced by various internet providers. 
Over the years and especially lately we have lost a number of good members 
since their providers will not allow messages from this domain to get to 
subscribers, and as such they bounce and get removed by the server. I can’t 
even contact these people privately since my email address is tied to this 
domain.


I have to bring my people up to date on groups IO next, the good thing it 
is a lot easier to figure out than Mailman. It is almost 10 years since 
the last move and with luck this will be the last. I do not know how much 
longer I will keep running this beast, but believe it or not in October it 
will be 13 years. Bob and I never figured on it lasting this long, There 
is obviously a need which is the reason for keeping it.

David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Update Issue

[Andy Baracco]

I have never had trouble with the JAWS update utility.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 2:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Update Issue



Hi Jerry,
I would abandon the update Jaws route in the future,
and just download the new release from their website and run it.
The update feature in Jaws doesn't always work correctly, and the download
process
appears to be rather slow compared to directly downloading the executable.
You shouldn't miss out on new releases, Mike posts them to the list when
they are available.
Just a thought!

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2018 1:33 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Update Issue


Afternoon all.

Upon installing the latest update via the laptop update reminder, I had 
the

system restart. After restarting, I got (via sighted assistance) an error
message about a dll file being missing. So, again with sighted assistance, 
I

had to go to the fs sight, download my version of JAWS 2018, and run a
repair. Has anyone ever gotten this message, and is there a way to prevent
this from happening again. Using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell 
laptop.

Thanks in advance.

Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[Andy Baracco]

Same here! Luv Eloquence!

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Long" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence



I have never been impressed by the new better voices.  I used them to try
and quickly returned to eloquence.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.



After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast 
machine.

I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky 
at

times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed 
my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, 
but

for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.



So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

[Andy Baracco]

So what does this mean?

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11



The difference is in what process the internet options is opened.

From Control panel to open Internet option: 
C:\Windows\System32\inetcpl.cpl was called.


From Internet explorer to open Internet option: C:\Program Files\Internet 
Explorer\inetcpl.cpl was called.




Steve

- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Ed" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11



Hi Steve,
And why would that make any different? Seems to me if MS put the reset
button inside IE that would be okay to reset it that way. So let us know 
why

it would not be okay to do it that say compared to going to the control
panel.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2018 3:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

The difference is that by going in through the control panel, you don't 
have


IE running.
- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 7:51 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11



Hi Steve,
Both methods get you to "Internet options", what is the difference?

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"


- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11


I disagree slightly with this procedure.

First, it is better to reset IE using the control panel, and not from IE
itself.
Secondly, make sure you don't have other IE-dependent programs like
certain
email programs open before you start the reset.

I would modify Step 1 to be:
Open Control panel.
In Windows 7 and Vista, just type control panel into the search box and
arrow down until you hear that announced and hit Enter to open it.  Then
find Internet Options and hit Enter.

In Windows 10, the easiest way to find control panel is the use the
Windows-X key combination.  Control panel and open Internet Options from
there.

Steve
- Original Message - 
From: "Mr. Ed" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:46 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11



Hi Miriam,
Here are my instructions on how to reset IE 11. I would give this a 
try.


How to reset IE 11:
I would recommend re setting IE. Here are the steps to do that.
1. Open IE
2. Press alt + T for tools menu.
3. Press up arrow once and you should be on options. Press the enter 
key.

4. Press shift + Tab and you should hear General.
5. Press the right arrow key until you hear advance.
6. Tab until you hear reset button.
7. Press enter on the reset button.
8. A dialog box will come up. Press tab once and you will hear 
something

about checking this box to delete personal information. Press
the spacebar here   to check this check box.
9. Tab twice to the reset button and press the spacebar.
Wait a few minutes then close IE and reopen it. Now it should work like
new.

Note: checking the box about removing personal information will not
remove
your favorites in IE.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
On

Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:16 PM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to
crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E 
to

work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does
anyone have any suggestions?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

[Andy Baracco]

If the issue is that the web site is using code that does not support IE 11, 
using an older version of JAWS or another screen reader isn't going to help. 
IE is no longer being supported, so as time goes on, it will become less and 
less effective to use. This might be a good time to start experimenting with 
Chrome and Firefox, and for Win 10 users, i understand that progress is 
being made with Edge and screen readers.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11


Agreed. I now use IE11 as a backup, with Chrome as my default browser. 
Chrome's menu structure is horrible, even with the headings that Mike B 
alerted me to last month. However, it mostly operates the same way as 
IE11. Meanwhile, when I want to go to a favorite, I switch over to IE11. I 
also find it helpful that you can read difficult emails by sending them 
into IE11.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

i'm starting to notice this with IE 11. I am using it with JAWS 2018 and 
Win
7 64 bit. i do not think it is a screen reader issue. I think that it is 
an IE 11 issue. In fact, I am beginning to run into web sites that say 
straight out that they are not optimized for IE 11, and suggest that you 
use a different browser.


Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Gerald Levy " 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11




Have you tried an earlier version of JAWS?  Does IE 11 seem to crash most
often on certain web sites?  If so, can you provide the address of a site
you are having trouble with?  I'm running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and 
have

experienced no issues with IE 11.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to
crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to
work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does
anyone have any suggestions?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

[Andy Baracco]

i'm starting to notice this with IE 11. I am using it with JAWS 2018 and Win 
7 64 bit. i do not think it is a screen reader issue. I think that it is an 
IE 11 issue. In fact, I am beginning to run into web sites that say straight 
out that they are not optimized for IE 11, and suggest that you use a 
different browser.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy " 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I E 11




Have you tried an earlier version of JAWS?  Does IE 11 seem to crash most 
often on certain web sites?  If so, can you provide the address of a site 
you are having trouble with?  I'm running JAWS 16 with Windows 7, and have 
experienced no issues with IE 11.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Sunday, June 17, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I E 11

With Jaws 2018 and Windows 7 on my 64 bit computer, I E 11 has begun to
crash rather often. I have to reboot the computer in order to get I E to
work when this happens. Aside from learning to use a new browser, does
anyone have any suggestions?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] monitoring credit

[Andy Baracco]

I use Credit Karma.  They check all 3 credit bureaus. They do have their own 
system, because I notice that the scores they give are much lower than the 
scores that I get from other sources, such as my credit card providers.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 6:50 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] monitoring credit



Jerald,
I actually signed up with them, but I think they only check Experian?
Thanks


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 3:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] monitoring credit


Check out this free credit score site from Discover card.  You do not need
to be a Discover cardholder to use it:

https://www.discover.com/free-credit-score/


Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Kimsan
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2018 2:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] monitoring credit

Hi,

Does anyone here know of a site where I can monitor my credit score that 
is
jaws accessible? I don't care paid or free, but if I pay, I would want it 
to

be jaws accessible.

Thanks.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Question on Firefox 60.0.1 settings

[Andy Baracco]

There was a time when we were told to uncheck those items, but I do not know 
if this still holds true.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Cristóbal" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2018 9:29 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Question on Firefox 60.0.1 settings


Hello list,

I was poking around Firefox after reupgrading to V 60.0.1 and going through
the various settings to make sure everything is how I want it and came
across the below:

Use hardware acceleration when available Alt+Shift+r

Use autoscrolling Alt+Shift+a

Use smooth scrolling Alt+Shift+m

So, since I rarely ever deal with these particular settings, I forgot what
is advised. Whether to check or uncheck these three options? On the latest
Jaws 2018 May update and it is much better than the first go around with
Firefox 60.

Can anyone give me a refresher and what these three settings actually do?

Thanks,

Cristóbal

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Re: [JAWS-Users] google told me someone tried to use my account

[Andy Baracco]

Whenever I sign into a new app with my Gmail or Google account credentials, 
I get one of those Emails from Google. Usually, you can just disregard them.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rebecca Lineberger" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2018 3:45 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] google told me someone tried to use my account



Google is very security-conscious.
Go to
My Account
Control, protect, and secure your account, all in one place
My Account gives you quick access to settings and tools that let you
safeguard your data, protect your privacy, and decide how your information
can make
Google services work better for you.
If your password may have been compromised, change it.
Good luck.
Rebecca
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of andy
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:47 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] google told me someone tried to use my account

Has anyone else had this? Is it real? Now everytime I send a messege I 
have

to put in my password. I am using jaws 17, windows 8 and I think outlook
2010

Can someone help me so I do not have to put in  apassword everytime I want
to send a messege..

Thank you

andy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Andy Baracco]

INSERT F7 renders a list of links.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Dave...Oregonian" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


I have no problem using Amazon. And to find a button, you use Insert+F5, 
not

F7.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Holger Fiallo" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:30
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


noticing the same issue with amazon.com I tried to purchase something but
could not find any button to add to card. I did insert key and f7. Did not
work. Using IE 11, jaws 2018 and W10 april.

-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Gerald,

The presence of variable will depend on what you are ordering. I selected 
a

DIY frame, and a combo list was presented with a style type to pick. But
regardless, I was not able to work the buttons after that.

But I did see a thread on the JFW list with a similar issue in selecting
something on the screen. Here is that solution:

To select the tick box with JAWS, simply press the bypass key, JAWS key+3
then space bar.  This will tick it.

Give that  a try and let us know.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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From: "Gerald Levy " 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 08:11
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart



On Hollar.com, there are no variables.  There are no elements other than 
the

quantity edit field which is set to 1 by default and the add to shopping
cart button.  You enter the quantity of the item you want if if it is more
than 1 and click on the button to add it to your cart.  But no keystroke
will activate it with JAWS or any other screen reader.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 10:41 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

I'm speculating that in the case where you cannot press the "Add to Cart
Button" there is some other element (checkbox, combo box, editable combo
box, edit field) that needs to be used/selected before the button will
activate. For a simple example, if the quantity edit field is blank, then 
a
number needs first to be entered. In other cases, I've seen where a size 
or

a color choice must first be selected before the button can be activated.
There are so many variables in a simple shopping app that is dependent on
the item itself, that it's hard to pin down a specific problem related to
JAWS.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "sandy" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 06:56
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


this also happens to me at times, but it's when the purchase is a button

-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 11:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

At times when this happens I find that using the Jaws links menu will 
work.
Insert plus F7, arrow to the link if necessary and tab down to activate 
link

and press enter. Could be I am all wet but it's worth a try.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Judy

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 7:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites 
to
purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my 
cart.

I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of 
them

worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

[Andy Baracco]

No issues with Amazon here. I am a Prime member, and shop with them all the 
time.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart



I have always found Amazon easy enough to manage myself.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 6:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


Well, I have also encountered this problem on a number of shopping sites.
For instance, when I try to activate the add to shopping cart button on
Hollar.com using JAWS, nothing happens.  I have tried the space bar, enter
key, left mouse click and links list, all to no avail.  And switching to
another screen reader doesn't work, either.  If anyone has a work around,
pleas share it. To test your work around, I suggest visiting Hollar.com, 
and

trying to activate the button to add an item to your shopping cart.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 10:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart

Judy,

That's too much of an open-ended question. First, we don't know which 
sites
you are having problems with. Secondly, per your skill level -- are you 
able

to put items in your cart in any other shopping sites?

C'mon, give us a clue here.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2018 19:30
Subject: [JAWS-Users] unable to add to cart


Just a comment about the fact that I just went to two different websites 
to
purchase items and in both of them I was unable to add the item to my 
cart.

I am so sick of this. I can look it up and find it, but then can't get
anything to work to add to the cart. I tried three browsers and none of 
them

worked. I know my jaws is old, jaws 14, but honestly shouldn't something
work? Any ideas are appreciated. I know homicide is out! Judy & Libby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser

[Andy Baracco]

After launching Chrome, I believe the command is ALT-SHIFT-A.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 11:10 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to make Chrome my default browser


I'm frustrated enough with all browsers that I'm willing to see if Chrome 
might work best as the default. I thought I'd clicked on the "default" 
option in the menus, but it didn't take. Can someone give exact 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60 is out

[Andy Baracco]

Are you sure you installed the right version for your system, i. e. 32 or 64 
bit?

You might do better by installing from the actual Firefox web site.

Andy

- Original Message - 
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To: "jaws-users-list" 
Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2018 9:47 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60 is out


I installed Firefox 60 which I downloaded from ninite.com and Firefox kept 
crashing.
I'm not familiar with several of the new setup options. Something having 
to do with ads and personalized sponsored links.

How do I get rid of the kludder? Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum

[Andy Baracco]

So it works very well until it doesn't?

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Don Raikes" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2018 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum


I installed firefox 60 on windows 7 64-bit and it works fairly well with 
JAWS 2018.


However, firefox seems a bit sluggish especially when adding bookmarks, 
and sometimes I have problems with opening links I will press enter on the 
link and nothing happens.

-Original Message-
From: net bat66 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 1:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.mozilla.org_en-2DUS_firefox_organizations_all_=DwIGaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=RSYNyNFr7Oj1BRE0qW_8pVA2z0qhUeWtOTBuXmZp9uE=1efRKaEC80WhZm1ocZkMknarogBjd3r_C4HlgtLV6yM=X4wxS0-PDboA5jMqhPcFTJIm9Bbvx8-ufECygJvx4zA=
you have to count how many lines down you are for the version you want 
then when it starts saying download count down by the same number of lines 
to get the one you want.


-Original Message-
From: james_hoo...@earthlink.net
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 10:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum

Where can you get this  ersion?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf 
Of Don Raikes

Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 11:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum

Thanks.

I uninstalled firefox completely then installed firefox 52.7.4-esr which 
seems to be working nicely.

-Original Message-
From: Cristbal 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum

No, but Firefox V 60 should be coming out this month. It's supposed to 
work with the latest Jaws. You could in the meantime do what a lot of 
others have done and has been recommended by VFO and use the ESR version 
to keep up on security updates.
I'm currently running Firefox ESR Version 52.7.4 that I just updated this 
morning after I checked for an update.


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Behalf Of Don Raikes

Sent: Wednesday, May 2, 2018 8:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and firefox quantum

Hi,



Is there any version of jaws that works with the new firefox quantum?



I am interested in upgrading firefox to obtain any security updates, but I 
remember hearing that there are problems with firefox quantum and jaws, 
buthaven't heard if the issues have been fixed.




Any info would be appreciated.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] OCR doc scanning

[Andy Baracco]

I think that capability was introduced in JAWS 16.

Andy

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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 2:11 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OCR doc scanning



Hello all, I am using JAWS 15 with Windows 7. I opened a graphic pdf and
then did the Insert-Space then O and I wanted to scan the whole doc so I
pressed D but nothing happened.  If I do the same process and press S for
screen I get what is showing.  What am I doing wrong?



Wayne

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Compatibility Pack for Office

[Andy Baracco]

This is the same page as before.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 6:27 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Compatibility Pack for Office



And here is the story behind the Compatibility Pack:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/891090/how-to-obtain-the-latest-word-viewer#mainContent


HTH,
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Word Viewer

[Andy Baracco]

it appears that this utility is no longer available.

Andy

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From: "Rick Justice" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 5:57 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Word Viewer



Hi Mike and all,
Here is the link to the story of the viewer:

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/891090/how-to-obtain-the-latest-word-viewer#mainContent


HTH,
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[JAWS-Users] OE Issue

[Andy Baracco]

I rebooted the computer and restarted JAWS and OE and all appears to be 
well.


Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug

[Andy Baracco]

I installed the new build today.  in the February build JAWS read all labels 
and fields in OE. This new version does not read any labels, even field 
names such as To, CC, BCC, Subject, etc. The fields are there, but JAWS 
simply says "Edit".


What happened?  i hate when a new release breaks something that has been 
working well.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "David Ferrin" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 2:52 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] a possible bug


Since todays’ update things are not reading properly for me when I arrow 
up, down or around for some strange reason.


I can’t explain it exactly how this thing is acting.

Does anybody have this issue with you’re respective systems.
David Ferrin
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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express 6

[Andy Baracco]

Not lately, but I am currently using it with no issues.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Gary Jackson" 

To: "jaws-users" 
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:32 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook express 6



Hello all,

Has anybody installed the outlook express 6 that's on the programs page 
recently? I've tried twice to install it and it fails. Simply won't 
install.


Gary
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Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

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I use Chrome and IE 11 but have suspended using Firefox until accessibility 
issues are cleared up.


Andy

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From: "Judy Jones" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser



Amen to all that, I also have NVDA, and it seems to get better and better.

Judy


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Behalf Of Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 11:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I couldn't agree more with having multiple browsers.  There are certain 
web

pages that just don't work well with a certain browser, but will work much
better with another.

I have Firefox, Chrome and IE on my PC and use them all depending on the
circumstance.  I also have NVDA in addition to JAWS, for the same reason.

The more tools available, the better, in my opinion.

Pam



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Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

HI.

My primary browser is Firefox and has been for the last few years. I also
have Chrome on this machine and have used it a little. They both work 
well,

but I'd still give the edge (hah) to Firefox. I think Chrome support has
gotten really good in JAWS 2018, latest build. I do not have this. The
Firefox interface is a little more like that of iE, so you would probably
find that switch simpler. But really, there's no reason not to have both 
on

your machine. Keep your options open.

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Behalf Of Karen Schrade
Sent: February 23, 2018 2:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] migrating to a different web browser

I suspect this may be a lot of personal preference but, if I want to 
switch

from IE11 to another browser...
Of Chrome and Firefox, which works better with jaws? Then, which has a
smaller learning curve. I'm almost 70 and don't really want to change but,
some websites I frequent are making it necessary. ARGH! Thanks, Karen


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 Latest Build From Yesterday

[Andy Baracco]

i have experienced scripts being broken when upgrading to a new version, but 
not when simply updating to a new build, but perhaps something in the new 
build broke your scripts. This especially seems likely if the previous build 
still works properly.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Geovanni Bahena" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 1:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 Latest Build From Yesterday



This is a tuffr one. Might be a goodone to contact tech support about.


On 2/22/2018 1:40 PM, HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST) 
wrote:

Hi,

I Installed the latest JAWS 2018 build today.
I Use a web application and have written some scripts for it.
After installing the update, my web application no longer works as it 
used to, there seem to be lots more blank lines and things are not in the 
same place.

The app is also missing different elements and controls.
This has actually happened on two machine when I run the update.
I Have tested it on the previous version of JAWS and the application 
seems to work just fine

Tried on both Windows 7 and 10 with MSIE11.
Any ideas what may be going on here, are there any changes that could 
have effected this do you think?
Do I need to go back to the previous version of JAWS if I can find the 
version number and a download?

JAWS Version 2018.1802.78 ILM is the version that I am running.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

[Andy Baracco]

Yeah! and it's not new. I would suspect that VFO has shut the door on IE 
support.


Andy

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads


I have this experience on some, but not all, Webpages with IE11. I don't 
associate it with downloading files. I reported it to VFO, but my problem 
was treated dismissively. I hope you'll report it.


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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer And JAWS 2018 Downloads

Hi all,

When I click a link to download a file on the internet and go through 
saving it, the focus doesn[t seem to go back to the web page where I left 
off and I have to keep tabbing around to find my last place and get back 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

[Andy Baracco]

How out of date? It seems like iTunes makes changes with each new version.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Moore" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes



Hi,
I use iTunes with JAWS, and it is accessible to the point where you can 
definitely use it to create your music library, and it is not too bad in 
the store and buying music.
Jim Flusche, did three Audio Tutorials that I have. They are a little out 
of date, but I will ask jim if I can share them on this list as a One 
Drive link.

I will let you know if it is alright with Jim.
Take care, all!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dennis
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 9:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

Hi, how accessible is Jaws and I tunes?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

[Andy Baracco]

I don't know what bright soul came up with the idea for that kind of salute. 
Perhaps they thought it wouldn't be used by any other program.


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From: "cheez" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey


What a crazy key combination.  I'm fortunate to have a PC keyboard where 
the JAWS key is next to the f12.

But even with this layout, it is rather weird.
I put my thumb on the m, right pinkie on the JAWS key, then use any other 
finger on my left hand to hit the alt.


I use one hand to do things most of the time, and I wish I had a keyboard 
that had an insert key on the left side along with a num pad.  I know one 
can get an external num pad.  But I don't really use strange key 
combinations often.  But I would appreciate an escape key on the right 
side.


Vince

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To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:37 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey



Hi:



I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost 
impossible

to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

[Andy Baracco]

They were written by a blind guy. They work with your screen reader.

Andy

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Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games



But are they self voicing or accessible for the blind?

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

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Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 7:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline 
games


Perhaps you can do a search for Destenno games. They were originally 
written

for DOS but were ported to Windows. The suite includes a great blackjack
game as well as craps, a slot machine, and a few other games.

Andy

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Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games



Anyone know of any, I did find blackjack once but never saved it to a
memory stick.
I found Klondike solitaire which is very accessible from spoonsville but
this person doesn’t program gambling type games.
It would be nice to find such games that I don’t have to play online!

E-mail is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games

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Perhaps you can do a search for Destenno games. They were originally written 
for DOS but were ported to Windows. The suite includes a great blackjack 
game as well as craps, a slot machine, and a few other games.


Andy

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To: 
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2018 7:11 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows blackjack and slot machines offline games


Anyone know of any, I did find blackjack once but never saved it to a 
memory stick.
I found Klondike solitaire which is very accessible from spoonsville but 
this person doesn’t program gambling type games.

It would be nice to find such games that I don’t have to play online!

E-mail is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] downloading OE

[Andy Baracco]

I agree!

Andy

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To: 
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] downloading OE



It works great and it does what I need an email client to do.
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 From: Ken Chernack

 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 12:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] downloading OE


 Hi
 I thought outlook express support was long gone from Microsoft.
 Why use an old 2003 piece of software?
 There are other supported options.
 Hth,
 ken

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 Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] downloading OE

 when I try and download outlook express 2003 from the jaws program list, 
I
 hit enter when on the link, I choose to save the file, but nothing 
happens

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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] downloading OE

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It's all about choice.

Andy

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To: 
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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] downloading OE



Because some people want to.

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Behalf Of Ken Chernack
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Hi
I thought outlook express support was long gone from Microsoft.
Why use an old 2003 piece of software?
There are other supported options.
Hth,
ken

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Behalf Of sandy
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 9:05 AM
To: jul
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] downloading OE

when I try and download outlook express 2003 from the jaws program list, I
hit enter when on the link, I choose to save the file, but nothing happens
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

[Andy Baracco]

Text that is embedded in an image, such as a stop sign, would not be read.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other 
window opens.


The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a 
difference?


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

[Andy Baracco]

I do not believe that Webvisum will work with later versions of Firefox.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Star Gazer" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA



Anybody use web vism?

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2018 4:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA?
Email is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] about Magic

[Andy Baracco]

I'm surprised that MAGic is still around and being updated since VFO bought 
Zoomtext.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Miriam Vieni" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] about Magic



Thank you. But now, if that message doesn't reappear, do you know where I
can find it?

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Martinez Sr
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 6:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] about Magic

Hi Miriam,
I have been using MAGic for 4-5 years now and after each upgrade, 
including

the one this week, I have always had my settings there afterwards.
Just be sure that you have saved your current settings before you let it
update.
George

George A. Martinez, CPA
O-602.368.8854
F-206.666.2589
C-602.368.5424
"I've learnedThat everyone wants to live on top of the mountain, but 
all

the happiness and growth occurs while you're climbing it." attributed to
Andy Rooney

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Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2017 3:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] about Magic

I found a message with an upgrade to Magic when I turned on my computer
yesterday. Can anyone tell me if the settings I have in Magic will remain 
as

they are if I do the upgrade or if I need to redo them?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

[Andy Baracco]

Actually, on my system Firefox 57 works fine with NVDA, but Firefox crashes 
when i try to run it with JAWS 2018.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 3:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?



Hey.

While I don't know precisely what is going on, I don't think it's entirely
just to say that Mozilla has decided that accessibility is unimportant. In
fact, Firefox 57 does work fairly well, right now, with even the previous
(IE, not just released) version of NVDA. It's not perfect, but they have
promised that v58 will be better, and I see no reason to doubt them on 
that.

In the meantime, we can keep using the ESR version, which will continue to
be supported, and works great with the screen-reader of your choice. I 
don't
exactly know why NVDA is ahead of JAWS in this matter of Firefox 
57/Quantum,
, but I've yet to hear from anyone using JAWS 2018 and maybe it works 
better

there? I have JAWS 18, and part of the reason I've been switching more and
more to NVDA lately is that I'm not really in any position to buy a JAWS
upgrade at this time. Still going to hang on to both though.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: December 14, 2017 8:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Internet Explorer or Jaws?

Since MS is no longer developing IE I think VFO is not going to keep
supporting it. Either that or they are very lazy about fixing the hang 
issue

with IE since it has been going on for a couple of years now.
I dont like the way things are going for us. firefox has decided blind
accessibility is not important and Edge is not supported by Jaws very well
and IE is getting left behind that leaves us with Chrome... Good for 
Google

not so good for us...
On 12/14/2017 5:31 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello again,



Revisiting an old question.  Wit, it seems, most everyone noticing the
hangup of Internet Explorer at inopportune moments, is this due to the
way it is now interacting with Jaws?  Is there a fix that the
developers need to buckle down and work on, or is this an
uncooperative Microsoft issue?  I have noticed this behavior in the
last several versions of Jaws, but what can we users do to help "make it

better?"




Thanks in advance for the input.



Judy



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Re: [JAWS-Users] outlook express

[Andy Baracco]

I am using it with the latest JAWS and am having no difficulty.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "t" <1forjh...@gmail.com>

To: "jul" 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 10:30 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] outlook express


I’m having difficulties with wlm, and may need to download outlook express. 
is OE easy to navigate with jaws?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Using Windows7 Pro, which version of jaws?

[Andy Baracco]

I am running Win 7 Pro and am using the latest version of JAWS with no 
difficulties. As for JAWS Home vs. Pro, the software is identicle. The 
difference has to do with whether or not you are using the software at home 
or at work, and whether or not you have it installed on multiple machines.


When I retired I was able to convert my JAWS Pro license to JAWS home, thus 
saving money on the cost of SMA updates.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Gerardo Corripio" 

To: "Jaws Users" 
Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 5:00 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Using Windows7 Pro, which version of jaws?


Gera again; I have another question of I'm using Windows7 Pro currently, 
thus i'm kind of worried that maybe the Jaws when I get the license, won't 
be compatible because of the deal of Jaws Home, Jaws pro. How does this 
work nowadays? Thanks for info.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.

[Andy Baracco]

I agree!  But Chrome also works well with Win 7.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 2:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Annoying Internet Explorer.


For those who kept Win7, as I was strongly urged to by an expert in the 
field, IE11 still works well.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Judy Jones

Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 3:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Anoying Internet Explorer.

Hello,



I made reference to this question in another e-mail, but I am wondering if 
others are experiencing this.




I am using IE 11 on a Toshiba laptop with Windows 10 creator edition. 
Even before that, though, IE seems to get hung up often when trying to 
load.  All of a sudden I lose either speech, or the web page won't resolve 
itself, then I get some kind of problem message with IE that differs 
slightly from one incident to another, with the final announcement that IE 
is closing.
Sometimes closing the program puts me where I want to be on the site in 
the first place, but not always.




Are there any helps for this?  IS this the way IE interfaces with Jaws, or 
is this just IE not getting support?




Thanks for your help.



Judy

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Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[Andy Baracco]

Well, the first time you install JAWS you need to authorize it, and to do 
that you need the code. I guess if you could get the code some other way, 
you could authorize the download. if you install it and don't authorize it, 
it will run in 40 minute mode.


Andy

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From: "Dave...Oregonian" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



Holgar -- then you've already got it. The CD/DVD is just window-dressing.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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From: "Holger Fiallo" <hfia...@rcn.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 14:35
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD


Got the download but not the CD

-----Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco

Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 4:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

You should get one the first time you buy JAWS and if you have an SMA you
should get one each time a new version of JAWS comes out. That original CD
on the jacket will note your authorization code which you will need if you
have a crash and have to reinstall, or if you get a new computer and have 
to

reinstall, as the SMA upgrade CDs do not note that code. The CD usually
comes several weeks after the release of the new version, so you may opt 
to
download the new version from the web site. If you do not have a version 
of

JAWS installed on your machine when you install the downloaded upgrade you
will be prompted to authorize the new install.

Andy

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From: "Holger Fiallo" <hfia...@rcn.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



   Good question. Never got my.

-Original Message- 
From: David Pearson Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:12 PM To:

jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD


Hello list,

  Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for
version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be.
Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as
easy to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[Andy Baracco]

You should get one the first time you buy JAWS and if you have an SMA you 
should get one each time a new version of JAWS comes out. That original CD 
on the jacket will note your authorization code which you will need if you 
have a crash and have to reinstall, or if you get a new computer and have to 
reinstall, as the SMA upgrade CDs do not note that code. The CD usually 
comes several weeks after the release of the new version, so you may opt to 
download the new version from the web site. If you do not have a version of 
JAWS installed on your machine when you install the downloaded upgrade you 
will be prompted to authorize the new install.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Holger Fiallo" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



   Good question. Never got my.

-Original Message- 
From: David Pearson Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 1:12 PM To: 
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



Hello list,

  Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for 
version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be. 
Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as 
easy to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 Full Version Direct Download Links + What's New

[Andy Baracco]

The new JAWS is version 2018. From now on the new version number will be the 
same as the calendar year.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Long" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 Full Version Direct Download Links + 
What's New




No Jaws 2018 is what would be jaws19.  Jaws has changed the numbering
scheme.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 9:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 Full Version Direct Download Links +
What's New

this would be jaws 19 and need a SMA correct!

-Original Message-
From: Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2017 2:40 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018 Full Version Direct Download Links + 
What's

New

Hi All,

This is the real / official Jaws 2018.1710.36, not a Beta, release.

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171036VNM976/J2018.1710.36enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/171036VNM976/J2018.1710.36enu-x64.exe

What's new in Jaws 2018:

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/jaws/JAWSWhatsNew




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Re: [JAWS-Users] Mac Virsus PC's

[Andy Baracco]

Sure! he's running Windows and MAC OS on that system. Apple provides a 
utility called Boot Camp that makes this possible. in that situation, you 
can run JAWS or any other screen reader or any other Windows program when 
you boot into Windows.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy " 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Mac Virsus PC's




Actually, somebody on another list claims that he is successfully running 
JAWS on an Apple  Mac using a dual boot configuration.  Is this possible?


Gerald



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From: Moderator

Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 7:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Mac Virsus PC's

It's time to take this subject off-list since Jaws does not run on Apple
products.

Thank you,

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Mac verses Jaws and Windows

[Andy Baracco]

i considered this issue in 2012 and earlier this year when I had to replace 
a PC. I stayed with Windows largely because I couldn't justify the cost 
differential. Macs are simply more expensive and when you get down to it, a 
PC does what a PC does. The Mac doesn't do anything that would justify the 
higher cost.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Mac verses Jaws and Windows



A good number of people like it. I personally would not consider switching,
not because of JAWS (NVDA is great really, in its own way, too) but 
because

of the OS, but then I don't really like Apple products in general. My best
advice is to try it out before you go out and buy a computer. Get a feel 
for

it and see what you think. You may find the experience a pleasant one, and
in that case it'll totally be worth taking the plunge, so to speak.


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Naomi Bolter
Sent: October 17, 2017 11:39 PM
To: 'jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Mac verses Jaws and Windows

Hi everyone,

So I currently use Jaws on my work computer, with windows who knows what,
I'm technologically challenged.
I want to buy a home computer and am looking at the MacBook's because I 
love

my IPhone.
My question is, is anyone out there able to give me an idea of how I might
find the Mac, keeping in mind I use Jaws every day?
I know this is a Jaws list, but I guess I just don't want to go out there,
buy a Mac and find it is not as user friendly as my good old faithful 
Jaws.


P.S. I have looked all over the net and into mac sites etc. but I'm just
trying to cover all my bases so to speak.

Thankyou in advance.


Kind Regards
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Mac verses Jaws and Windows

[Andy Baracco]

You can either set up a dual boot system, or you can run Windows in a 
virtual window using a program like VM Fusion.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "J.Cyr" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Mac verses Jaws and Windows


This is a subject of great interest to me too.  Andy, if you can put 
Windows on the Mac then can't you keep it on?  Sorry if this is a foolish 
question, I'm just trying to understand what is involved in the switch.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Mac verses Jaws and Windows

[Andy Baracco]

The experience is totally different. Some concepts are similar, but you will 
need to be prepared to put aside your knowledge of Windows and accept a 
learning curve. You can put Windows on a Mac, and that way you can continue 
to perform essential tasks while learning a new system.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Naomi Bolter" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 8:38 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Mac verses Jaws and Windows



Hi everyone,

So I currently use Jaws on my work computer, with windows who knows what, 
I'm technologically challenged.
I want to buy a home computer and am looking at the MacBook's because I 
love my IPhone.
My question is, is anyone out there able to give me an idea of how I might 
find the Mac, keeping in mind I use Jaws every day?
I know this is a Jaws list, but I guess I just don't want to go out there, 
buy a Mac and find it is not as user friendly as my good old faithful 
Jaws.


P.S. I have looked all over the net and into mac sites etc. but I'm just 
trying to cover all my bases so to speak.


Thankyou in advance.


Kind Regards
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE

[Andy Baracco]

I asked the question because she was referring to IE.

Andy

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From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net>

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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE


Andy, I don't know if that would make a difference.  I have Mozilla 
Firefox as my default web browser.
She may have a glitch that may be resolved by doing a re-install.  What 
you think?


Vince

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE



Is Internet Explorer set as your default web browser?

Andy

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Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE



That's the way I have it.

Arianna
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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE


Go into your Options in Outlook Express and make sure you have messages 
set to be displayed in HTML, not plain-text.


Go to Options, Read tab, and make sure the box to read messages in 
plain-text is not checked.




- Original Message - 
From: "Arianna Calesso" <acalesso...@centurylink.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 6:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE


I'm using Windows 7 with JAWS 17 and I can't get Links to work in 
Outlook

Express.

Please help.
Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE

[Andy Baracco]

Also, for links in plain text, I have found that arrowing one character to 
the right and hitting ENTER will activate the link.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE



Hi Arianna,

Did this problem just start happening all of a sudden?

Awhile back if you pressed, Jaws key + Z, to toggle the virtual cursor on
and off, would sometimes fix this issue, & sometimes it took invoking the
keystroke more than once.

If you copy & paste the link into the Run dialogue & press enter will it
work then?

Also, is it possible that the links are sent in plain text?  If so, then
pasting them into the Run dialogue should work.  Or, you can try the
keystrokes below on the links.

To open links sent in plain text, try the following for Outlook Express.
#1. Place the cursor at the beginning of the link & invoke the keystroke,
Shift + Enter.

#2. Place the cursor at the beginning of the link & invoke the keystroke,
Alt, Shift, + H.  Invoking this particular on a link somehow turns the 
link

into an HTML link & now, just press enter.


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Arianna Calesso

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE


That's the way I have it.

Arianna
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE



Go into your Options in Outlook Express and make sure you have messages
set to be displayed in HTML, not plain-text.

Go to Options, Read tab, and make sure the box to read messages in
plain-text is not checked.



- Original Message - 
From: "Arianna Calesso" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 6:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE


I'm using Windows 7 with JAWS 17 and I can't get Links to work in 
Outlook

Express.

Please help.
Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE

[Andy Baracco]

I'm tapped out. Hopefully someone has another answer.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Arianna Calesso" <acalesso...@centurylink.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 6:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE



Yes, it is.

Arianna
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From: "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE



Is Internet Explorer set as your default web browser?

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Arianna Calesso" <acalesso...@centurylink.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE



That's the way I have it.

Arianna
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" <pipeguy...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE


Go into your Options in Outlook Express and make sure you have messages 
set to be displayed in HTML, not plain-text.


Go to Options, Read tab, and make sure the box to read messages in 
plain-text is not checked.




- Original Message - 
From: "Arianna Calesso" <acalesso...@centurylink.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 6:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE


I'm using Windows 7 with JAWS 17 and I can't get Links to work in 
Outlook

Express.

Please help.
Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE

[Andy Baracco]

I would have agreed with you years ago, but we live in different times. I 
think that the benefits far outweigh the risks, especially if you are using 
security software and keeping it updated, as well as keeping Windows 
updated.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Scorpio" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE


Please keep in mind that displaying your messages in HTML is less secure 
then displaying them in plain text.


This way, when the e-mail is in plain text, you don't have files that 
might be viruses being activated, or beacons being triggered for fishing 
e-mails.


I, for one, would not rely on my anti-virus, especially since I'm using 
the free one by Microsoft, to completely secure my computer, so I take 
every precaution.


If you find this is only happening a fraction of the time, in other words, 
you're mostly copying links to send space, or something like that, it's 
best to leave it in plain text, and if there's a link you have to click on 
to go view a product, let's say, press the keystroke of alt+shift+H, this 
will switch the e-mail into HTML, and keep the rest of your e-mails 
secure.


Just a thought.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 8:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE

Go into your Options in Outlook Express and make sure you have messages 
set

to be displayed in HTML, not plain-text.

Go to Options, Read tab, and make sure the box to read messages in
plain-text is not checked.



- Original Message - 
From: "Arianna Calesso" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 6:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE



I'm using Windows 7 with JAWS 17 and I can't get Links to work in Outlook
Express.

Please help.
Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE

[Andy Baracco]

Is Internet Explorer set as your default web browser?

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Arianna Calesso" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:27 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE



That's the way I have it.

Arianna
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE


Go into your Options in Outlook Express and make sure you have messages 
set to be displayed in HTML, not plain-text.


Go to Options, Read tab, and make sure the box to read messages in 
plain-text is not checked.




- Original Message - 
From: "Arianna Calesso" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 6:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE


I'm using Windows 7 with JAWS 17 and I can't get Links to work in 
Outlook

Express.

Please help.
Arianna
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE

[Andy Baracco]

Do you have OE set to display messages in plain text?

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Arianna Calesso" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE



Yeah, but you are sending me links, and as I said, links don't work in OE.

Arianna
- Original Message - 
From: "JM Casey" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE



Hi.

Try steps described on one of these web pages.
https://www.lifewire.com/make-links-work-outlook-1173782
or:
http://www.dummies.com/computers/operating-systems/windows-xp-vista/how-to-r
epair-hyperlinks-in-outlook-express/

You said you were using Windows 7 and most of this stuff is for older
operating systems. But to be honest, so is Outlook Express. So if you 
read

through this you should be able to get some helpful answers.

If none of that stuff works, just copy the hyperlink and paste it in your
browser of choice.


-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Arianna Calesso
Sent: October 9, 2017 6:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Links don't work in OE

I'm using Windows 7 with JAWS 17 and I can't get Links to work in Outlook
Express.

Please help.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!

[Andy Baracco]

Actually, the latest version of JAWS works quite well with OE but you will 
need to label the graphics in the message list, i. e. read/unread, 
attachment, etc.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Dennis Long" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!



Did you mean jaws15?

Sent from my Android phone using Aqua Mail



On September 22, 2017 10:26:06 PM "Mike B."  wrote:


Hi Loy,

Using Jaws 16 with OE will probably give you your best results because 
they

stripped out all OE scripts with the later versions of Jaws.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In 
the

end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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From: Loy
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


I believe this is a different version because I have tried two different
downloads in the past and one I paid for but neither of them was very
accessible. But this one work just as it did when it was included in old
versions of Windows. I am using the latest version of Win 10 and Window
Eyes. I also have tried it with JAWS.  I plan on using it because it is
simple and does just what I needed in an email client.
  - Original Message -
  From: Steve
  To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


  Yeah, it's been out for probably four years from the website
  Http://www.runasxp.com

  I don't know if the whitestick site uses that same program, if it does, 
I
  wonder if it is pirated.  The RunAsXp site had a nominal charge for 
their

  version of OE which I've used for the past three years.

  Steve
  - Original Message -
  From: "Randy Barnett" 
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:44 PM
  Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook express is back. You bet it is!


  > Thought I would pass this on:
  >
  > From Harry on another list:
  >
  >
  > Hi all,
  >
  > From Tom Lorimers web site, whitestick.co.uk, he has outlook express
  > version 6, which works on windows 7, 8, and 10!!!
  >
  > I did not know it is still around!!!
  >
  > If you want to download it, go to the downloads web page at
  >
  > http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html
  >
  > I went there because my winamp, version 5.66, no longer works. The
volume
  > is low, on everything winamp plays, and it is all the way up!
  >
  > So, I went to Toms web page, and found outlook express 6 on the
downloads
  > page!
  >
  > There is all kinds of stuff on his downloads page!
  >
  > Harry
  >
  >VICUG-L is the Visually Impaired Computer User Group List.
  > Archived on the World Wide Web at
  >
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Express question

[Andy Baracco]

I am running Win 7 and am using that version of OE without difficulty.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Sherri" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2017 5:39 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Express question


Thank you so much for this.  Sounds a little complicated, but I will give 
it

a try.
- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Express question


Sherri,

First, you can get a version of OE for Windows 7-10 if you want.  It is at
runasxp.com.

Ok, I found this on a Microsoft Answers site; hope this helps...
Steve

tion about the differences between Microsoft Outlook and Microsoft Outlook
Express e-mail clients, click the following article number to view the
article in the Microsoft Knowledge Base:
257824 OL2000: Differences Between Outlook and Outlook Express
Symptoms
When you start Outlook Express, some of your default folders (Inbox, 
Drafts,

and so on) or personal subfolders that you created may be missing from the
Local Folders list. The folders were previously visible.

Cause
This issue can occur if the Folders.dbx file is damaged or corrupted.

Resolution
To resolve this issue, rename the Folders.dbx file for the impacted 
identity
and then start Outlook Express. This allows Outlook Express to rebuild a 
new

Folders.dbx file.

To rename and rebuild the Folders.dbx file:

 1.. In Outlook Express, click Options on the Tools menu, and then click
the Maintenance tab.
 2.. Click Store Folder, and then make a note of the path to your Store
folder on your disk drive. You cannot type in this box, but you can move
through the box by using the left and right arrow keys on the keyboard.
 3.. Close the Store Folder and Options dialog boxes, and then quit 
Outlook

Express.
 4.. Click Start, point to Programs, and then click Windows Explorer.
 5.. Locate the Store folder (you noted the path to the Store folder in
step 2).
 6.. Right-click the Folders.dbx file in this folder, and then click 
Rename

on the shortcut menu.
 7.. Type Folders.old, and then press the ENTER key. Make sure that the
file is renamed to Folders.old, and then quit Windows Explorer.
 8.. Start Outlook Express. This automatically creates a new Folders.dbx
file; your folders should be displayed correctly.
NOTE: Always back up your data before you make any modifications to any
message store files, such as the Folders.dbx file. For additional
information, click the article number below to view the article in the
Microsoft Knowledge Base:


270670 OLEXP: How to Ba
- Original Message - 
From: "Sherri" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 5:16 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook Express question



Yes, I know, OE is not available any more, but it is still on my computer
that runs XP.  What has happened is that several of my folders are not
showing.  I can find them when I do a search with "my computer" for DBX
files, but I can't get them to show up in the list view of my folders.  I
know there was a way to recover folders, but I don't remember how to do
it.
And yes, I am getting a new computer.  Anyway, these are important
messages
and folders, so if anyone could please give me any suggestions, I would 
be

very happy!  Thank you.
Sherri
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

[Andy Baracco]

I always used to have "show pictures" off, but I discovered that if you 
print out something that has a bar code or QR code on it, the code will not 
print out. This cost me some money at a restaurant when I printed out an 
online coupon, only to find out that the restaurant wouldn't honor it 
because the coupon code didn't print out. When i turned "show Pictures" back 
on, the codes printed out again.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Subash" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 2:52 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem



Hi Dennis, open internet explorer.
Alt T for tools, O for option, Shist Control tab once to get to the 
advance page.
If you wish to get fomiliar with what's there, you can arrow down through 
the lists of items there. If you want to get there quickly, press M until 
you hear multimedia open.

I have the following turn off:
Enable automatic image resizing-OFF
2 of 7
Play animations in webpages-OFF*
3 of 7
Play sounds in webpages-OFF
4 of 7
Show image download placeholders-OFF
5 of 7
Show pictures-OFF
6 of 7
Smart image dithering-OFF
7 of 7
However, I don't recommend turning off play sound on web pages.
hth
-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 5:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

Can you list what you turn off and where to find it?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Subash
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2017 5:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

Judy, I normally use IE for M.facebook, but I tried it with chrome and I
find what IE shows as link, chrome shows as button.
You are correct, no events button I see there.
Also, I find some sites with radio buttons, check boxes and combo chrome 
has

lots of work to do for accessibility.

On another note, because no one with sight is using my computer, I turn 
off

allot of the feature in internet explorer, like play annymation and show
picture and the other stuff that would take time to load.

-Original Message-
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 9:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

I still did not get my question answered about the Events Link.  I cannot
find it when using Google Chrome.  I also use m.facebook.com.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, June 4, 2017 6:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

That didn't work neither did shift enter or using the links list.  Keep 
the

ideas coming I will try all of them.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2017 8:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem

I wonder if moving cursor to the middle of the word "share" would do it, 
or

using the links list, as suggested in an earlier post.



Judy
sent from the U2 Mini

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From: Dennis Long  
To:  jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
CC:
Date: Sunday, June 4, 2017 5:23 pm
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google chrome problem




Hi, when on

m.facebook.com

you press enter on a share link nothing happens.  Any ideas how to fix?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome help, please.

[Andy Baracco]

I am having some difficulty navigating tables on web pages using JAWS and 
Chrome. Any tips?


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Moderator" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome help, please.



Hi Judy,
Your query is not off-topic for this list,
if Jaws is the screen-reader being used.
As long as the question has something to do with the use of Jaws, there's 
no

problem.

Richard Q. Justice-list moderator
jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com

- Original Message - 
From: "Judy Jones" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 7:20 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Google Chrome help, please.


I apologize in advance, as I realize this is for Jaws questions, but I am
needing to find blind folks who use Google Chrome, as I want to start 
using
it and have some key combination questions and navigation questions, 
coming

from IE 11.



If it is better to take this off-list, that is fine.



You can e-mail me at

sonshine...@gmail.com



Thanks so much!



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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

If you are using IMAP the port is 993 rather than 995.

Andy

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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2017 4:41 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Jorge,
Those port numbers depend on the ISP, and whether or not it is an IMAP or
POP account.

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!

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From: "TheHangMan" <jorgethehang...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


Andy,
Port 465 is good for the incoming, port 587 or 9903 is the out going SMTP.
HTH, I had to think about this,
Jorge

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Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 8:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

Hi Rick,

Well, i thought i had achieved success with setting up a POP account for 
my

Gmail account on my PC, but even though I can receive mail from that
account, when I try to send mail from that account, I get the following
error.

An unknown error has occurred. Subject 'Test', Account: 'pop.gmail.com',
Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 465, Secure(SSL): Yes, 
Error

Number: 0x800CCC0B

So what next?
Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad.

[Andy Baracco]

That depends on what you want to do with the document. importing into 
Notepad would change the document into a plain text file, and you would lose 
any formatting.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" <bunchkinb...@sbcglobal.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
document? Try WordPad.




Jeff, why not try note pad instead. I have copied word documents into note
pad and been able to read them fine. It doesn't change anything. I use Win
7.  Judy & Libby



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 2:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I'm running Windows 10 Anniversary edition. Wordpad didn't work very
well for me. It didn't seem to translate everything properly. By that, I
mean that there were some characters/symbols that were left in the
document. Specifically in the example I tried, there was a backslash (\)
character at the beginning of some lines. Also, I'm not sure how the
document might have looked in Word, but the formatting seemed unlikely.
All the text was strung together with no logical line breaks or blank
lines.

Perhaps I just don't know how to use Wordpad, so if this is the case,
some instructions on how to configure Wordpad would be appreciated.
Otherwise, are there any other suggestions for free programs to access
Word documents? I'm not looking to create or even edit Word documents,
it's just that occasionally I'll be given a Word doc that I want to read
and sometimes getting it in another format is not an option.

Thanks,
Jeff



On 5/22/2017 10:43 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

Another option might be WordPad.  At least with Windows 10, WordPad will
open even a .docx file, allow you to edit it, and save it back in the
original doc or docx format.  Just do the usual save command, control s 
is

the shortcut, and follow the prompts to either over-right the original

file,

or save it under a different name.  If you over-right the original file,

you

will lose some functions that are in the full version of Word, but you

will

not lose text or even most of the format, fonts, etc.

I do not know how much of that works in Windows 7 WordPad,  but I know 
for

sure it does with Windows 10; I just tried it.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?

Jarte will open .DOC files, and also .DOCX files if you have the
compatibility pack from Microsoft.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?



Hi Jo,

You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is the
old file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003,
but I'm not sure about 2003.  If you have a newer version of Word
installed, you will also need to have the, Compatibility Pack,
installed.  This program allows newer versions of Office to open,
read, & edit older files from older Office versions.

If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now
this is a totally different set of steps.  First we need to know if
you have Office installed, & possibly what operating system you're
running depending on your needs.
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Jo Luland
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Hi All,
I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I
need to create something in the control panel. As you can all see, I'm
not familiar with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but have
never come across this situation. I know that many of you out there
will know what the heck I'm talking about and will be able to help me.
Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
Jo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

Hi Rick,

Well, i thought i had achieved success with setting up a POP account for my 
Gmail account on my PC, but even though I can receive mail from that 
account, when I try to send mail from that account, I get the following 
error.


An unknown error has occurred. Subject 'Test', Account: 'pop.gmail.com', 
Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 465, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error 
Number: 0x800CCC0B


So what next?
Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

Hi Rick,

Well, I thought my POP and Gmail situation was solved, but even though I can 
now receive messages on my PC from my Gmail account, I get the following 
error when I tried to send from that account.


An unknown error has occurred. Subject 'Test', Account: 'pop.gmail.com', 
Server: 'smtp.gmail.com', Protocol: SMTP, Port: 465, Secure(SSL): Yes, Error 
Number: 0x800CCC0B


Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

This was the case. This all had to be done because one Email list domain 
that I get mail from doesn't play with my Roadrunner account.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "David Whitehead" <davidmac1...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


Hello;
I think the message you received has to do with security.

Check out the following;

https://www.google.com/settings/security/lesssecureapps


Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 10:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get when I
try to download my Email from Gmail.

Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. Account:

'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, Server Response:
'-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes,
Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18

What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" <ricjust...@jaws-users.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Give this a try:

Source:


https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail=en_id=1-636
261519406724775-2946780235=1


Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP

You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
POP, like Microsoft Outlook.

Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails

IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
clients.

IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real time.

POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
download
new emails.

Step 2: Set up POP
First, set up POP in Gmail
list of 6 items
1. On your computer, open
Gmail.
2. In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
3. Click Settings.
4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or Enable
POP for mail that arrives from now on.
6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
list end

Next, make changes on your email client

Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Incoming Mail (POP) Server

pop.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Port: 995

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server

smtp.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Requires TLS: Yes (if available)

Requires Authentication: Yes

Port for SSL: 465

Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587

If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter mail.domain.com,
then select Port 110.

Server timeouts
Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User Name, or Email address
Your email address
Password
Your Gmail password

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how do
I
go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

Yes, that was the issue. I have to do all of this because one Email list 
domain doesn't play with my Roadrunner address.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" <ricjust...@jaws-users.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2017 3:15 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Go back into the settings of your e-mail client and make sure your user 
name

and password are correct,
and make sure the following is not checked:
"Secure Password Authentication" (spa)

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


On 5/24/2017 7:07 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get
when I try to download my Email from Gmail.

Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication.
Account: 'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3,
Server Response: '-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995,
Secure(SSL): Yes, Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18

What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message - From: "Rick Justice"
<ricjust...@jaws-users.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Give this a try:

Source:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail=en_id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235=1


Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP

You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that 
support

POP, like Microsoft Outlook.

Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails

IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
clients.

IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real
time.

POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in 
real

time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
download
new emails.

Step 2: Set up POP
First, set up POP in Gmail
list of 6 items
1. On your computer, open
Gmail.
2. In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
3. Click Settings.
4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or
Enable
POP for mail that arrives from now on.
6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
list end

Next, make changes on your email client

Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Incoming Mail (POP) Server

pop.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Port: 995

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server

smtp.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Requires TLS: Yes (if available)

Requires Authentication: Yes

Port for SSL: 465

Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587

If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter
mail.domain.com,
then select Port 110.

Server timeouts
Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User Name, or Email address
Your email address
Password
Your Gmail password

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


- Original Message - From: "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering
how do I
go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

Hi Rick,

I followed your instructions to the letter, but this is what i get when I 
try to download my Email from Gmail.


Unable to logon to the server using Secure Password Authentication. Account: 
'pop.gmail.com', Server: 'pop.gmail.com', Protocol: POP3, Server Response: 
'-ERR malformed command l1mb352836872obu', Port: 995, Secure(SSL): Yes, 
Server Error: 0x800CCC90, Error Number: 0x800CCC18


What should i try?
Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" <ricjust...@jaws-users.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Give this a try:

Source:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail=en_id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235=1

Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP

You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
POP, like Microsoft Outlook.

Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails

IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
clients.

IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real time.

POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
download
new emails.

Step 2: Set up POP
First, set up POP in Gmail
list of 6 items
1. On your computer, open
Gmail.
2. In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
3. Click Settings.
4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or Enable
POP for mail that arrives from now on.
6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
list end

Next, make changes on your email client

Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Incoming Mail (POP) Server

pop.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Port: 995

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server

smtp.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Requires TLS: Yes (if available)

Requires Authentication: Yes

Port for SSL: 465

Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587

If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter mail.domain.com,
then select Port 110.

Server timeouts
Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User Name, or Email address
Your email address
Password
Your Gmail password

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


- Original Message - 
From: "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how do 
I

go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad.

[Andy Baracco]

 is not an option.

Thanks,
Jeff



On 5/22/2017 10:43 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

Another option might be WordPad.  At least with Windows 10, WordPad
will open even a .docx file, allow you to edit it, and save it back
in the original doc or docx format.  Just do the usual save command,
control s is the shortcut, and follow the prompts to either
over-right the original file, or save it under a different name.  If
you over-right the original file, you will lose some functions that
are in the full version of Word, but you will not lose text or even
most of the

format, fonts, etc.


I do not know how much of that works in Windows 7 WordPad,  but I
know for sure it does with Windows 10; I just tried it.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?

Jarte will open .DOC files, and also .DOCX files if you have the
compatibility pack from Microsoft.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?



Hi Jo,

You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is
the old file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly
2003, but I'm not sure about 2003.  If you have a newer version of
Word installed, you will also need to have the, Compatibility Pack,
installed.  This program allows newer versions of Office to open,
read, & edit older files from older Office versions.

If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now
this is a totally different set of steps.  First we need to know if
you have Office installed, & possibly what operating system you're
running depending on your needs.
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Jo Luland
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Hi All,
I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I
need to create something in the control panel. As you can all see,
I'm not familiar with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but
have never come across this situation. I know that many of you out
there will know what the heck I'm talking about and will be able to
help

me.

Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
Jo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad.

[Andy Baracco]

Seems like a lot of work, especially if you have to do it every time.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Ford" <ttf...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2017 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
document? Try WordPad.




That exact same thing happened to me.  The solution proved to be the
following steps.

Open WordPad, and press control + o to open the file directory system. 
Tab
to the file type combo box, then arrow up or down to the format you want 
to

open, e.g. a .doc or .docx Word document.  Press enter on the appropriate
line.

Next, press shift + tab to get to the list of folders/files that are in 
your

computer as the default folder for document files.

Arrow to the file you want, press enter.

The results should now be more in line with the original .doc or .docx 
file.


Important tip!  Be sure to check that file type combo box every time you
open WordPad.  The default setting, for example, is only for WordPad
documents.  You need to arrow down to the very end of the list (or use the
end key), and there is the all-files filter, the only one that will show 
you

all the files and folders on your computer.

Best of luck, and hope the above helps.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Audiobookfan
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 11:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document? Try WordPad.

I'm running Windows 10 Anniversary edition. Wordpad didn't work very well
for me. It didn't seem to translate everything properly. By that, I mean
that there were some characters/symbols that were left in the document.
Specifically in the example I tried, there was a backslash (\) character 
at
the beginning of some lines. Also, I'm not sure how the document might 
have

looked in Word, but the formatting seemed unlikely.
All the text was strung together with no logical line breaks or blank 
lines.


Perhaps I just don't know how to use Wordpad, so if this is the case, some
instructions on how to configure Wordpad would be appreciated.
Otherwise, are there any other suggestions for free programs to access 
Word
documents? I'm not looking to create or even edit Word documents, it's 
just
that occasionally I'll be given a Word doc that I want to read and 
sometimes

getting it in another format is not an option.

Thanks,
Jeff



On 5/22/2017 10:43 PM, Tim Ford wrote:

Hi All,

Another option might be WordPad.  At least with Windows 10, WordPad
will open even a .docx file, allow you to edit it, and save it back in
the original doc or docx format.  Just do the usual save command,
control s is the shortcut, and follow the prompts to either over-right
the original file, or save it under a different name.  If you
over-right the original file, you will lose some functions that are in
the full version of Word, but you will not lose text or even most of the

format, fonts, etc.


I do not know how much of that works in Windows 7 WordPad,  but I know
for sure it does with Windows 10; I just tried it.

Tim Ford


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?

Jarte will open .DOC files, and also .DOCX files if you have the
compatibility pack from Microsoft.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: "Mike B." <mb69ma...@charter.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?



Hi Jo,

You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is the
old file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003,
but I'm not sure about 2003.  If you have a newer version of Word
installed, you will also need to have the, Compatibility Pack,
installed.  This program allows newer versions of Office to open,
read, & edit older files from older Office versions.

If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now
this is a totally different set of steps.  First we need to know if
you have Office installed, & possibly what operating system you're
running depending on your needs.
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Jo Luland
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Hi All,
I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I
need to create something in the control panel. As you can all see,
I'm not familiar with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but
have never come across this situation. I kno

Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? Try WordPad.

[Andy Baracco]

In Win 7 Wordpad will not open any MS Word documents.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Tim Ford" <ttf...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document? 
Try WordPad.




Hi All,

Another option might be WordPad.  At least with Windows 10, WordPad will
open even a .docx file, allow you to edit it, and save it back in the
original doc or docx format.  Just do the usual save command, control s is
the shortcut, and follow the prompts to either over-right the original 
file,
or save it under a different name.  If you over-right the original file, 
you
will lose some functions that are in the full version of Word, but you 
will

not lose text or even most of the format, fonts, etc.

I do not know how much of that works in Windows 7 WordPad,  but I know for
sure it does with Windows 10; I just tried it.

Tim Ford


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Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?

Jarte will open .DOC files, and also .DOCX files if you have the
compatibility pack from Microsoft.

Andy

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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?



Hi Jo,

You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is the
old file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003,
but I'm not sure about 2003.  If you have a newer version of Word
installed, you will also need to have the, Compatibility Pack,
installed.  This program allows newer versions of Office to open,
read, & edit older files from older Office versions.

If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now
this is a totally different set of steps.  First we need to know if
you have Office installed, & possibly what operating system you're
running depending on your needs.
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message -
From: Jo Luland
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Hi All,
I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I
need to create something in the control panel. As you can all see, I'm
not familiar with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but have
never come across this situation. I know that many of you out there
will know what the heck I'm talking about and will be able to help me.
Thanks for any suggestions you may have.
Jo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc document?

[Andy Baracco]

Jarte will open .DOC files, and also .DOCX files if you have the 
compatibility pack from Microsoft.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 1:20 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc 
document?




Hi Jo,

You need MS Word to open this file.  The file extension, .doc, is the old
file extension for MS Word prior to Word 2007, & possibly 2003, but I'm 
not

sure about 2003.  If you have a newer version of Word installed, you will
also need to have the, Compatibility Pack, installed.  This program allows
newer versions of Office to open, read, & edit older files from older 
Office

versions.

If you need to know how to assign a program to open this file, now this is 
a

totally different set of steps.  First we need to know if you have Office
installed, & possibly what operating system you're running depending on 
your

needs.
Take care, Mike.
Sennt from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
- Original Message - 
From: Jo Luland

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2017 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] What program should be used to read a .doc
document?


Hi All,
I received a .doc document, but I can't read it. I'm informed that I need 
to
create something in the control panel. As you can all see, I'm not 
familiar

with this. I've been using JAWS for many years, but have never come across
this situation. I know that many of you out there will know what the heck
I'm talking about and will be able to help me.  Thanks for any suggestions
you may have.
Jo


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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and win 7

[Andy Baracco]

I am running JAWS 18 under Win 7.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and win 7



Hi Tom,

Most definitely.
Take care.
Mike
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From: Tom 
To: jul 
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2017 3:52 PM

Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and win 7


will jaws 17 work on a win 7 laptop?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome settings

[Andy Baracco]

Why are you no longer using Chrome?

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 4:35 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Chrome settings



Hi Adrian,

Below are some notes I made back when I was running Chrome regularly. 
Read

all the way through.

From: Ann Byrne via Jfw Would it help to turn off the quick keys with
insert-z?  I needed to
get to a dialog today and that was the trick.  Also someone else
suggested shift-enter instead of just enter.
good luck!
Ann

From: Mike B
Hi Ann,
Thank you very much, pressing, Insert / Jaws key + Z, is the trick but, 
this

keystroke toggles the virtual cursor mode On / off.  Press enter on the
Settings option then press, Insert + Z, to turn the virtual cursor off & 
you
can tab through the Settings options.  Or you can press the Alt key to 
open

the list, arrow up to Settings, press, Insert + Z, to turn the virtual
cursor off, then press enter on Settings & you can tab through the 
options.

Shift + Enter does not work.
Take care.
Mike

From: Mike B
Hi All,

Running Widows 7 Pro, Chrome, & Jaws 15 thru 17 latest.  When in Chrome if
you press the, Alt key, it opens a vertical view of the menues.  Well, in
J17 when I would arrow down to the, Settings Option & press enter to open, 
&

here is where my problems would begin in J17.  In J15 & 16 after pressing
enter on the Settings Option I can tab through all the various options 
but,

with J17 I had to turn the virtual cursor off, Insert + Z, before I could
navigate through this menu.  After some playing around in Jaws 17's Quick
Settings, Insert + V, I found that having these 2 settings set the way
they're shown below allowed me to navigate the Settings Menu with J17 
using

the tab key just like with J15 & J16, without having to turn the virtual
cursor off.  This might not work for everyone but, it worked for me & it's
something y'all can try if you experience the same thing I encountered.
Here are the 2 settings as they should be:

Heading and Frame Options

Frame show start & end, should be checked.

In line frames show, should  be on.

Note: For Chrome settings purposes, you want in-line frames on. for 
website

navigation purposes, to skip past ads, you want in-line frames off. The
point remains that, ideally, when we consider a suggestion to change a
setting to solve one problem, we should be aware of the consequences of 
the

change.

Hope this helps others than myself.

Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Adrian Spratt

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Monday, May 15, 2017 2:42 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Chrome settings


Hi. I want to look at settings in Chrome. However, when I press enter on
"Settings" in the Chrome menu, all I get is a window with the word
"settings" in it. Nothing works: enter, right-click, applications key, 
alt.

It stays static.
When I ask JAWS what kind of window it is, I get the following message, 
and

I'm wondering if anyone knows what I should do:

Window Classes - Chrome
New Class Assigned Classes
Chrome_RenderWidgetHostHWND
Assign to:
3State
Button
CheckBox
ComboBox
Dialog
Edit
EditCombo
ExtendedSelectListBox
Graphic
GroupBox
HeaderBar
HotKey
OK Cancel Add Class Remove Class
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[JAWS-Users] libreoffice

[Andy Baracco]

How well does JAWS work with libreoffice? I purchased a new PC that didn't come 
with MS Office, and would rather not buy MS Office if I don't have to.

Andy
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Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers

[Andy Baracco]

It could because browsers are constantly being upgraded to deal with changes 
in content, and the newer versions of JAWS are designed to take that into 
consideration.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 9:55 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers


Hi, I neglected to tell in my first post that I am still using Jaws 14, 
with
no current plans to upgrade. Does that matter on how well Chrome or 
Firefox

will work for me? Thanks. Judy & Libby



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of matthew dyer
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 12:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers

Hi,

Google chrome works just fine on my setup.  Jaws 18 windows 10 creaters
17003 should work for you.

Matthew



Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Judy
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 10:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] browsers

Hi, I've always and still do use Internet Explorer and have the latest one
11. I have come across occasionally a couple web sites that don't support 
it

and want you to use either Firefox or Google chrome. Which of these is
easier to use and is more accessible to us? Thanks. Judy & aLibby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] browsers

[Andy Baracco]

I haven't used Chrome much, but I find using Firefox to be a lot like using 
IE. Some commands and menu options are differently named, but it doesn't 
take long to get used to. For example, the command to go to a URL is 
CONTROL-L as opposed to CONTROL-O as is the case with IE.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Judy" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2017 7:36 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] browsers



Hi, I've always and still do use Internet Explorer and have the latest one
11. I have come across occasionally a couple web sites that don't support 
it

and want you to use either Firefox or Google chrome. Which of these is
easier to use and is more accessible to us? Thanks. Judy & aLibby







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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

Thank you very much!

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Rick Justice" <ricjust...@jaws-users.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 2:15 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



Hi Andy,
Give this a try:

Source:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail=en_id=1-636261519406724775-2946780235=1

Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP

You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
POP, like Microsoft Outlook.

Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails

IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
clients.

IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real time.

POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
download
new emails.

Step 2: Set up POP
First, set up POP in Gmail
list of 6 items
1. On your computer, open
Gmail.
2. In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
3. Click Settings.
4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or Enable
POP for mail that arrives from now on.
6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
list end

Next, make changes on your email client

Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Incoming Mail (POP) Server

pop.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Port: 995

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server

smtp.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Requires TLS: Yes (if available)

Requires Authentication: Yes

Port for SSL: 465

Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587

If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter mail.domain.com,
then select Port 110.

Server timeouts
Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended)
Full Name or Display Name
Your name
Account Name, User Name, or Email address
Your email address
Password
Your Gmail password

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


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From: "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how do 
I

go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Email Messages

[Andy Baracco]

in OE hit ALT-F and A and arrow down to "Save as text file, and hit ENTER.
Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 6:18 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Saving Email Messages


Which is your current email client? Outlook (but not Outlook Express) 
might do the trick.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 8:57 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Saving Email Messages

Morning all.

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to save email messages as notepad 
documents? I have several older email messages from a different email 
client that I cannot open without going through a serious hassle. Many 
thanks and humble appreciation.


Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

Actually, I am using the version of outlook Express that works with Windows 
7.


Andy

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Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account



I am not sure if OE stands for outlook, outlook express is no longer the
program name if I understand right. To set Gmail up with out look you 
should

not have to get into the manual set up, you should just be able to enter
your user/email name,account name and password in the outlook email setup
wizard. Here is the tricky part, in the last 8 months or so Google has
changed a setting and you have to go into your Gmail settings to change it
or it wont activate. You have to find a Gmail setting that says something
like, allow less secure apps. If you don't change this setting in Gmail 
you

can no longer set up your Gmail with outlook. Here is the link to take you
through the steps. When you do find the setting the wording is tricky so
read three times just to confuse yourself and then uncheck the box, good
luck.  https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Rick Justice
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 1:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

Hi Andy,
Give this a try:

Source:
https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7104828?ctx=mail=en_id=1-636
261519406724775-2946780235=1

Read Gmail messages on other email clients using POP

You can open your messages from Gmail in other mail clients that support
POP, like Microsoft Outlook.

Step 1: Make sure POP is the best way to read your emails

IMAP and POP are both ways to read your Gmail messages in other email
clients.

IMAP can be used across multiple devices. Emails are synced in real time.

POP can only be used for a single computer. Emails aren't synced in real
time. Instead, they're downloaded and you decide how often you want to
download new emails.

Step 2: Set up POP
First, set up POP in Gmail
list of 6 items
1. On your computer, open
Gmail.
2. In the top right, click Settings
Settings
.
3. Click Settings.
4. Click the Forwarding and POP/IMAP tab.
5. In the "POP Download" section, select Enable POP for all mail or Enable
POP for mail that arrives from now on.
6. At the bottom of the page, click Save Changes.
list end

Next, make changes on your email client

Go to your client, like Microsoft Outlook, and check these settings.

table with 2 columns and 6 rows
Incoming Mail (POP) Server

pop.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Port: 995

Outgoing Mail (SMTP) Server

smtp.gmail.com

Requires SSL: Yes

Requires TLS: Yes (if available)

Requires Authentication: Yes

Port for SSL: 465

Port for TLS/STARTTLS: 587

If you use Gmail with your work or school account, enter mail.domain.com,
then select Port 110.

Server timeouts
Greater than 1 minute (5 is recommended) Full Name or Display Name Your 
name

Account Name, User Name, or Email address Your email address Password Your
Gmail password

HTH,
Rick Justice

Tomorrow's another day, another way!
and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!


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From: "Andy Baracco" <w...@socal.rr.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how do 
I

go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?

Andy


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Re: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account

[Andy Baracco]

I have a Gmail account that I set up on my phone, but am wondering how do I 
go about setting it up so I can access it with OE on my PC?


Andy


- Original Message - 
From: "Tom" 

To: "jul" 
Sent: Sunday, March 26, 2017 6:34 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] [jaws] creating a gmail email account


I’m trying to open a 2nd gmail account, and each time I get to the closed 
captcha, and put in the correct words, it never gets past that point...in 
other words, it doesn’t accept or refuse what I entered. I have tried this 
on i.e., firefox and chrome, with both jaws 12, and 17. can there be a 
setting I need to change? it only happens with gmail

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Change My Home Page in Internet Explorer

[Andy Baracco]

another way you can do it is to bring up IE, go to the page that you want as 
your home page, Hit ALT-T, then arrow up to Internet Options and hit ENTER. 
TAB over to "use current" and hit the spacebar and then tab over to OK and 
hit the spacebar.


Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "David Whitehead" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 2:54 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Change My Home Page in Internet Explorer


Try;

1, open IE,

2, alt+t=tools,

3, O=options,
Yu will be placed on the homepage address,
Just type in the preferred homepage,
www.google.com

now tab to okay press enter,
close IE, restart the browser, you should have IE as your homepage.
Hope this helps.



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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Michele Thredgold
Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 5:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How Do I Change My Home Page in Internet Explorer

Hi all. I used to have Google as my home page when I opened Internet
Explorer,  but someone changed it to the Microsoft home page when they were
doing repairs on my laptop. How do I change it back? I've looked through the
menus but can't find an option for it. I'm using Windows 7, JAWS 18 and the
latest  Internet Explorer.

Thanks.

Michele

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jarte;

[Andy Baracco]

Nothing else. It works fine for me with JAWS 18.
Andy

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From: "Mike B." 

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jarte;



Hi Greg,

What do you do after you 've copied,

"enable screen reader mode"

to the clipboard to get Jaws speaking inJart?  Thanks much.
Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message - 
From: Greg Wocher

To: JAWS Users
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2017 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jarte;


Hello,
There is a trick to getting screen reader mode working. You can force 
Jarte
to switch to screen reader mode by copying the phrase "enable screen 
reader
mode" to the Windows clipboard before starting Jarte. This only needs to 
be

done one time. This should do what you need.

Regards,
Greg Wocher


On Mar 15, 2017, at 7:43 AM, David Whitehead 
wrote:

Ok, my client is using windows10, jaws18 latest update, 64bit machine,

When I installed jarte I received no positive results.

I thought the program was supposed to recognize a screen reader.

I went to,

http://jaws-users.com/programs/Productivity/JarteDownloadPage.html

then I chose;

http://jaws-users.com/programs/Productivity/jarte_54_setup.exe

this is the full version.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Andy Baracco]

There is another way. highlight the message in the list of messages and hit 
ALT ENTER. This will bring up the message properties dialogue and then tab 
over to the Details tab and arrow down.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Maria Campbell

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

It doesn't work in Thunderbird either.


Maria Campbell
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On 1/8/2017 10:53 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
Interesting. It doesn't work for me in Outlook 2010. I should have 
mentioned this is what I'm using.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jason White

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 11:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

You can use Shift-Tab from the body of the message to move into the header 
field containing the address, then Route JAWS to PC (Insert+Numpad-Minus), 
then read character-by-character with the JAWS cursor, then Numpad-Plus to 
return to the PC cursor.


Works under Microsoft Outlook 2016.

Miriam Vieni  wrote:

Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter
if you encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are 
responding?


Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

[Andy Baracco]

The paste command is Control V, not Control Alt V.
Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 8:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Miriam,

Just press control-alt-v to paste. The text Mike suggests you copy goes to 
the clipboard. The way to get text from the clipboard is to press 
control-alt-v.


There's another way to read the person's address that doesn't involve 
copying and pasting. Set up a reply to the message with control-r, then 
arrow down. The "From" line will display the address in a form JAWS can 
navigate letter by letter. Be sure not to send the reply unless you mean to!


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Miriam Vieni

Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2017 10:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Thank you so much. I always seem to be opening word. What are the keystrokes 
for opening clipboard, please?


Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Mike B.

Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 11:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address

Hi Miriam,

1. With the email open hold down the, Alt key, & press the, 1 key, on the 
number row twice quickly.  This will highlight the, From, field.
2. Press, Control + A, to select all, & press, Control + C, to copy to the 
clipboard.
3. Open Notepad, Press, Control + V, to paste, & now you can read character 
by character as well as read all punctuation that might otherwise be hidden 
/ not spoken.


Take care.
Mike
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- Original Message -
From: Miriam Vieni
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2017 7:14 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Reading an email address


Is there a way to get Jaws to read an email address letter by letter if you 
encounter one in the header or somewhere other than when you are responding?


Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] SMA Renewal Question

[Andy Baracco]

I received the same notice, and have the same question, but nothing that FS 
does surprises me. i have usually renewed before the next version is 
released, but have never received a notice like this before concerning JAWS.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 5:57 PM
To: 'Jaws users list'
Subject: [JAWS-Users] SMA Renewal Question

Hello, everyone.



My intent with this e-mail is not to stir up controversy, but to try to get
the truth regarding upgrading a Jjaws SMA.



Here's my situation:



My current Jaws SMA ends with Jaws 18.



I recently received a mail notification from Freedom Scientific advising me
that I can renew my Jaws SMA for the next two Jaws upgrades for $120, as
long as I do so by December 31.  In a followup conversation with the FS
Customer Service Department, I was told that if I wait to renew my SMA after
December 31, that cost will go up to $180.



I was always under the impression that the $120 SMA renewal cost figure
would be the same as long as you renewed your SMA prior to the next major
Jaws update.



Perhaps I am mistaken here, and wonder what others know about this issue.



I may not be able to renew my SMA prior to December 31, and just want to
know what to expect, or how to advocate for a fair price.



Thanks!



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

[Andy Baracco]

I am using Win 7, but have noticed some sluggishness on web pages using JAWS 
18.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Dave

Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 8:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

But I disagree with you. I have JAWS 15, 16, 17, and 18. IE11 works just
fine with JAWS 15 and 16 (no delay in the find function), and JAWS 17 and 18
are the bad boys. So it's definitely something with the JAWS architecture
from 17 onward. They made a significant change to JAWS in that version, as
we all recall, since we were no longer able to merge from JAWS 16 to JAWS 17
due to that new paradigm. So it's definitely something they did to break
JAWS 17, and continue to not fix, in JAWS 18.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan Song" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 13:04
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


I have yet to install 18. I made my reply to simply state it's happening
here with jaws 17, so I don't think it's a jaws issue.

I think IE 11 just sucks and is the problem.
Let's all convert to chrome.
Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 12:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Kimsan,

...and does it not happen with JAWS 18?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Kimsan Song" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 09:15
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


That happens with me using jaws 17.

Respectfully,

Kimsan Song

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2016 3:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem

Yes. It is actually not crashing, but it is closing down and reloading. I
also notice it is often very slow when I execute a JAWS find.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message -
From: "Fanus" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2016 02:49
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18 and internet explorer 11 problem


Hello list
Since the latest upgrade of jaws 18 it crashes 9 out of ten times when I
open ie11 on my windows10 pc. Then I must wait until it restarts. I find it
to be less responsive in firefox. Do other listers also encounter this?
Regards
Fanus
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

[Andy Baracco]

it isn't a program. It's a paid service.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: wayne smith

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully 
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?


Wayne

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on
I'm not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label
twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with
and sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous
input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the
time tab will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is
OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create
a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which
won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored
because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only
the control is selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so
I can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

[Andy Baracco]

JAWS does not show the box as checked after you press the spacebar, but it 
actually is. After pressing the spacebar arrow down and you will find the 
CAPTCHA. Some sites use a challege that you can solve, such as answering a 
question, and some offer an audio challenge, but unfortunately many still 
only offer the traditional CAPTCHA.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 8:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just when I 
get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box saying I am not a 
robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I can send my message?

I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

[Andy Baracco]

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e. sighted 
assistance.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Pursley

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my kids
read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:
I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on I'm not 
a robot checked box not checked!


-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label twice,
one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with and
sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous input
field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the time tab
will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is OK
for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create a
problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which won't
work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored because they go
to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only the control is
selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:
I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just when 
I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box saying I am 
not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I can send my 
message?

I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[Andy Baracco]

It's because they want you to use Edge.


-Original Message- 
From: anna vimini 
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 4:36 PM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11 

How come all of a sudden their are no updates in windows update for 
internet explorer 11?


the last update I got was:

version 11037

Kb3,197,655

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Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

[Andy Baracco]

Edge is the browser that comes with the current version of Windows, and MS 
is trying to get folks to use it.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: anna vimini

Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 5:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11

Could you please explaine this so it is more clear because I do not
understand what you are trying to say

Re: [JAWS-Users] internet explorer 11
Thant's because microsoft want you to use edge which at the moment has
some accessibility issues.
Glen

***

On 10-Nov-2016 11:36 am, anna vimini wrote:
block quote
How come all of a sudden their are no updates in windows update for
internet explorer 11?

the last update I got was:

version 11037

Kb3,197,655

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Moving from JAWS 17 to 18

[Andy Baracco]

You do not need to uninstall the previous JAWS version first. Multiple 
versions of JAWS can coexist on the same system. In fact, you won't want to 
because JAWS 18 has reintroduced the merge utility, even though that didn't 
work for me.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 5:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Moving from JAWS 17 to 18

Regarding the installation of JAWS 18, do I need to uninstall JAWS 17 first, 
or can I just insert the disk and install it over the current version? 
Thanks.


Jerry
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Unusual Recaptcha experience

[Andy Baracco]

I have had varying levels of success with recaptcha, but it is a step 
forward. My beef is that it seems to be used everywhere, even for simple 
things like joining an Email list.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Pursley

Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 12:44 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Unusual Recaptcha experience

Confirming a subscription, I had to verify being human by completing a
"challenge".  Selecting an audio challenge I needed to match several
choices with x boxes with a topic, such as fish stew and dance.

The audio challenge was in JAWS-readable text.

I checked appropriate boxes and passed - the third time around.  A young
person with only a high school education may have had difficulty with
passing as fish stew included Italian and French stews most people could
not pronounce (cioppino).

Bottom line, though - the audio challenge was a refreshing change from
garbled sounds
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