Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web site

[Russ Kiehne]

In my case, I find using the B of A app on my ipad is so much easier than 
using the web page.


-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.

Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2018 5:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web site

I am also using Windows 7 with both JAWS 14 and JAWS 2018. I found the trick
to getting access is to make sure your sign in page is maximized. Once you
have done that, then sign in and just open up the tabs you need. I use it
for credit card only, though, so other areas may be different.

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "PeterTighe" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web site



Adrian

I am having problems with Bill pay and e-bills.

Maybe my problem is that I am still using Windows 7.

Thanks,

Peter


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 5:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of America web site

Peter,

I've also had problems with BofA's website, but right now I can manage. 
You

need to explain the specific problems you're encountering. Also, which
section is causing them: checking, credit cards , etc.?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf 
Of

PeterTighe
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 5:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] changes last Fall to bank of america web site

Ever since the gank of America web site changes last Fall I haven't Been
able to use it except for Jaws version 14 which is rather out of date.

Could anyone give me some clues. I would appreciate a private response if
you think it would be more appropriate.
Thank you very much.

Peter
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 1:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] adding a gmail account to outlook

Hi all,

I am trying to add another gmail account to my Outlook 2010 an am having
trouble. It isn't trying to go through itself but wanting me to put the
server info in manually. Does anyone know this info? I googled it but 
don't

understand what all the numbers and crap it is telling me. outlook is not
using the same phrasing as the googled info so don't know what info to put
where.

Thanks,

Kurt



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Dektalk Synthesizer problem

[Russ Kiehne]

   Is this the Dectalk usb you are making reference to?

-Original Message- 
From: Shannon Pollo 
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 8:01 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Dektalk Synthesizer problem 



BlankTalk of different synthesizers brought to mind a problem I've had for
quite some time.
A few years ago, something -- either a new Jaws update, or an update to the
Microsoft Visual C-plus-plus broke the external Dectalk's synthesizer
interface.
I vaguely recall something about this on possibly another list.
Has anybody encountered this issue and is there a solution?
Steve
Lansing, MI
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[Russ Kiehne]

I agree, Dectalk is a great synthesizer.  I just wished you could still buy 
it.


Has anyone used any of the Sapi 5 Ivona voices?

-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Dectalk sounded pretty good! Especially considering that synth goes all the
way back to the early/mid 80s and hardly changed at all. I never had any
screen-reader use it though; just the Kurzeil 1000 product back in the late
90s.

Wow, that's a lot of ram. I was thinking an upgrade to 16 GB might at least
be in order.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Orlando Enrique Fiol
Sent: June 25, 2018 12:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

I actually was loathed to give up my Dectalk Access 32, which I used with
Window-eyes until a few years ago. Since migrating to Jaws, I love the
Vocalizer voices for their high frequency clarity and hum-based phoneme
samples. Having compared the Vocalizer voices to Voiceware, Google TTS and
the latest Microsoft voices, none are as clear and crisp as Vocalizer. My
system does not lag at all with them, but I have 43 gigs of memory and a
solid state hard drive.

Orlando Enrique Fiole


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

[Russ Kiehne]

This is why I like a hardware synthesizer like the TripleTalk usb I'm 
currently using.


-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Yeah, that does make some sense. I always kind of wondered why people really
bothered with this nowadays unless they were doing serious audio processing,
but I can now see that in some cases it's a sensible solution.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
net bat66
Sent: June 25, 2018 12:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

the computer might run faster if you are useing a dedicated plug in  e p c i
sound card instead of the onboard one.
when you do this the sound card does all the sound processing not the
computers c p u.


-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2018 6:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Good ole' Eloquence

Hey guys.



After some thought, I decided to switch my primary synthesiser back to
Eloquence. I must say, that JAWS is now acting a lot more like the robust
and response screen-reader I would expect on such a relatively fast machine.
I spent the past year listening to a nice, mannered, human-sounding voice,
but wondering why the devil my computer was being just as slow and clunky at
times as my XP machine was. Well, now I have the answer. Duh. These
Vocalizer voices are resource-intensive and slow the machine down. Anybody
else noticed this? I guess it's a foregone conclusion, but I just assumed my
machine would be able to handle it well. I think it'd be ok for reading, but
for all practical purposes, well, the trade in favour of performance is an
obvious no-brainer.



So, what synths does everyone use here, anyway? What are your thoughts on
all the software synths out there nowadays? Curiosity question.



Also, Eloquence - y'know, it's kind of good to have the old man back.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question

[Russ Kiehne]

I'll have to call VFO and find out.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 10:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question

Hi Russ,

No I sure don't, but I think it's around $180.00 at full price, and around
$120.00 at the discounted price.

Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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- Original Message - 
From: Russ Kiehne

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:19 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question


Would you happen to know what the price is for the full sma?

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question

Hi Russ,

Yes your friend should be able to upgrade to J2018 with no problems, but,
he'll have to pay full price for the SMA being he didn't buy the upgrade SMA
prior to January 1 of this year.  On the other hand, if he purchases the SMA
it'll be good for both J2018 & J2019.  To be absolutely sure of his options
he should call call them ath number below to make sure of his choices.
FS / VFO Sales phone#:  1-800-444-4443.
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
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- Original Message - 
From: Russ Kiehne

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 6:13 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question


A friend of mine is using JAWS 18.  Would he be able to buy a sma and be
able to updade to JAWS 2018?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question

[Russ Kiehne]

Wow, I didn't think it would cost that much if you are one version behind.

-Original Message- 
From: Kurt Miller

Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 8:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question

I would also have him check with VFO because my SMA ran out with 18. When I
called about getting one for 2018, they told me that I had to buy the
current version of 2018 and an SMA for 2019 and 2020. This was going to cost
me over $400, so he will definitely have to see what his situation is with
them.
Kurt

-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 9:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question

A friend of mine is using JAWS 18.  Would he be able to buy a sma and be
able to updade to JAWS 2018?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question

[Russ Kiehne]

Would you happen to know what the price is for the full sma?

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 9:49 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question

Hi Russ,

Yes your friend should be able to upgrade to J2018 with no problems, but,
he'll have to pay full price for the SMA being he didn't buy the upgrade SMA
prior to January 1 of this year.  On the other hand, if he purchases the SMA
it'll be good for both J2018 & J2019.  To be absolutely sure of his options
he should call call them ath number below to make sure of his choices.
FS / VFO Sales phone#:  1-800-444-4443.
Take Care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
- Original Message - 
From: Russ Kiehne

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 6:13 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question


A friend of mine is using JAWS 18.  Would he be able to buy a sma and be
able to updade to JAWS 2018?


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[JAWS-Users] JAWS sma question

[Russ Kiehne]

A friend of mine is using JAWS 18.  Would he be able to buy a sma and be 
able to updade to JAWS 2018?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] recommendations on replacement Toshiba or dell notebook

[Russ Kiehne]

Do you know anything about the: Lenovo Ideapad 210s 11.6 inch HD Flagship 
Laptop (2018..?


-Original Message- 
From: gary-melconian

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 5:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] recommendations on replacement Toshiba or dell 
notebook


I have one but it may bea a bit pricy as its a gaming laptop its MSI. they
make high end gaming laptops and the prices start at $1300 and go all the
way up to  $3000. I don't know if you want  to take a look at the lenova
thinkpad line up . do not look ath the consumer  lineup as I had a friend
who had issues with the consumer line up and  went with the business lineup
of lenova .  i also know of another  friend who recently got the HP Spectur
line up for business.  Those are the only two that  I am aware of at this
point.  Do let us know on what you go with as I am also in the market for a
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws on a Tablet

[Russ Kiehne]

I noticed that some of the windows tablets I looked at are running windows 
10s.  I don't think you can run jaws on them?


-Original Message- 
From: ratshtron

Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 1:26 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws on a Tablet

not sure if jaws will run on a tablet. most
tablets are either android or some may have a
version of windows specific to that tablet and it
may be posible to install jaws on something like
that. the android tablets can have a program
(app) installed or already is installed for
speech output called talkback. works quite well.
the only thing about android devices is that the
os is specific to each device and sometimes
updates are hard to come by. android oreo is the
latest release but android p is coming out soon.

Legend has it that on Tuesday 5/15/2018 11:04 AM, Mary jo said:

   I am new to this list so may be asking an inappropriate question. 
Please let me know.  I am currently running Jaws 18 on my desktop PC.  I 
want to transition to a tablet and want to know what tablets on the market 
support Jaws.  Also can I install my current version of Jaws or do I need 
to purchase something different.  Thank you.  Mary Jo Seiler  
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[JAWS-Users] Can anyone recommend a budget laptop that will work with jaws?

[Russ Kiehne]

I'm looking for a budget laptop that I can use with jaws.  Does anyone have 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding Out Which Synthesizer and Voice I'm Using

[Russ Kiehne]

Speaking of voices for JAWS, have any of you used the sapi5 ivona voices 
from

http://www.textaloud.com

-Original Message- 
From: Orlando Enrique Fiol

Sent: Sunday, May 6, 2018 4:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Finding Out Which Synthesizer and Voice I'm Using

Hi Margaret.


 Eloquence it is.  There is also a Vocalizer voice.  How can I

tell which voices (persons) they are.  is there more than the one
Vocalizer voice?

The Vocalizer voices will be named Tom, Samantha, Jill, Nathan, Zoe,
Alison and Susan. They also sound much clearer than any synthesized
speech such as Eloquence, which I never use anymore.
Regards,


Orlando Enrique Fiol
Ph.D. Candidate in Music Theory
University of Pennsylvania
Professional Pianist/Keyboardist, Percussionist, Arranger, Performer
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Re: [JAWS-Users] I am unable to upgrade Windows 10 from version 1703 to version 1709

[Russ Kiehne]

Windows 10 1803 is now released.  I'm now updating my desktop to 1803.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike O'Brien

Sent: Monday, April 30, 2018 7:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I am unable to upgrade Windows 10 from version 1703 to 
version 1709


Hi

Around a couple of weeks ago, I began seeing the Windows Update Assistant
wanting to upgrade my Windows 10 Pro computer from Windows 10 1703 to
Windows 10 1709.  I had successfully upgraded my Windows 10 Home computer a
few months ago to Windows 10 1709 without the Windows Update Assistant.

So when I tried running the Windows Update Assistant several times, I
received the message that it had failed because of a program not being
compatible with Windows 10.  The incompatible program was Magic and that I
needed to manually uninstall it.  The only program I could think of is the
Freedom Scientific screen magnification program named Magic.  I had
installed Magic version 12 3 or so years ago, when this computer was running
Windows 7, to see how to set it up for a friend of mine.  I know that Magic
version 12 is incompatible with Windows 10.  So I uninstalled it and was
later successful in installing Windows 10 and then upgrading to Windows 10
1703.

I had written to Freedom Scientific about this, but did not receive any
reply other than the automated message saying my email had been received.

So last week, I tried running the Windows10 Update Assistant after
uninstalling JAWS 18 and JAWS2018and shared components.  I did not receive
any messages about incompatible programs.  But since the Windows 10  Update
Assistant runs for hours, I saw that it had reached 99% completed when I
went to bed.  But in the morning I discovered that the computer had rebooted
and the Windows Update Assistant was gone.  I'm trying to run it again
today.

So is there any other way to get and install Windows 10 1709 or steps to
make the Windows 10 Upgrade Assistant run successfully?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

[Russ Kiehne]

Jaws does say unread and doesn't say read, attachment, forwarded and replied 
to.


-Original Message- 
From: T. Civitello

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 7:33 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I am using WLM in Windows 10 with Jaws 2018 and it says unread and
attachment when arrowing up and down the message list.  Tom

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I just wished Jaws would speak the status of the messages when you up and
down arrow the message list in wlm.  Another screen reader I used in the
past would say: unread, read, attachment, forwarded and replied to.

-Original Message- 
From: Marvin Atkins

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

David,

I use the WLM you speak of which has been discontinued by Microsoft.

The auto complete does work but you have to tab away and then tab back.

Using JAWS 2018 with Win10.

Marvin

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 6:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

Good evening;
when you say windows live mail,
are you talking about the windows live mail which has been discontinued by
Microsoft?
the one which is never to be updated?
or are you talking about the windows mail app, with windows 10.
if it's the windows live mail,
the autofill will never work, because there's no jaws scripting, so, even
the NVDA doesn't autofill.
if your talking about the windows 10 mail app, again there's no jaws
scripting, however with the NVDA, there's a windows essentials add-on which
works well.


  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I have the same problem in Windows Live Mail as you are having in Outlook.
Autocomplete has never worked for me. I began using JAWS 17, and the problem

has been unabated through JAWS 2018 on a Windows 7 64-bit Pro PC. In fact,
when I pressed Control+K just now, the Check Names feature was activated,
but no names were found. When another screen reader is used, the
Autocomplete feature works perfectly. I'm sorry to say that.

-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 3:19 PM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook

With a lot of help from David Whitehead, my Outlook 2016 is working. But the
auto complete isn't so basically, I suppose there's still something
corrupted. The Microsoft person told me that he'd emptied auto complete, and
that if I write the first few letters and press control K, I'd get a list of
relevant addresses from which I could choose. I tried that just now with my
daughter's address and the list the control K brought up was completely
irrelevant. And I still have to paste in the correct address for the DB
Review list. David helped me upgrade to Jaws 2018 and we got rid of the to
Miriam folder,so I think that auto complete is just not going to happen,
except for the blind democracy list for some unknown reason.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

[Russ Kiehne]

Likewise, I do hear unread.  I don't hear the other options.

-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 6:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I do hear unread with jaws. Would like to setup my WLM to tell me who send
it. I forgot how to do so.

-Original Message- 
From: Russ Kiehne

Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 8:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I just wished Jaws would speak the status of the messages when you up and
down arrow the message list in wlm.  Another screen reader I used in the
past would say: unread, read, attachment, forwarded and replied to.

-Original Message- 
From: Marvin Atkins

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

David,

I use the WLM you speak of which has been discontinued by Microsoft.

The auto complete does work but you have to tab away and then tab back.

Using JAWS 2018 with Win10.

Marvin

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 6:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

Good evening;
when you say windows live mail,
are you talking about the windows live mail which has been discontinued by
Microsoft?
the one which is never to be updated?
or are you talking about the windows mail app, with windows 10.
if it's the windows live mail,
the autofill will never work, because there's no jaws scripting, so, even
the NVDA doesn't autofill.
if your talking about the windows 10 mail app, again there's no jaws
scripting, however with the NVDA, there's a windows essentials add-on which
works well.


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what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I have the same problem in Windows Live Mail as you are having in Outlook.
Autocomplete has never worked for me. I began using JAWS 17, and the problem

has been unabated through JAWS 2018 on a Windows 7 64-bit Pro PC. In fact,
when I pressed Control+K just now, the Check Names feature was activated,
but no names were found. When another screen reader is used, the
Autocomplete feature works perfectly. I'm sorry to say that.

-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 3:19 PM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook

With a lot of help from David Whitehead, my Outlook 2016 is working. But the
auto complete isn't so basically, I suppose there's still something
corrupted. The Microsoft person told me that he'd emptied auto complete, and
that if I write the first few letters and press control K, I'd get a list of
relevant addresses from which I could choose. I tried that just now with my
daughter's address and the list the control K brought up was completely
irrelevant. And I still have to paste in the correct address for the DB
Review list. David helped me upgrade to Jaws 2018 and we got rid of the to
Miriam folder,so I think that auto complete is just not going to happen,
except for the blind democracy list for some unknown reason.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

[Russ Kiehne]

I just wished Jaws would speak the status of the messages when you up and 
down arrow the message list in wlm.  Another screen reader I used in the 
past would say: unread, read, attachment, forwarded and replied to.


-Original Message- 
From: Marvin Atkins

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

David,

I use the WLM you speak of which has been discontinued by Microsoft.

The auto complete does work but you have to tab away and then tab back.

Using JAWS 2018 with Win10.

Marvin

-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 6:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

Good evening;
when you say windows live mail,
are you talking about the windows live mail which has been discontinued by
Microsoft?
the one which is never to be updated?
or are you talking about the windows mail app, with windows 10.
if it's the windows live mail,
the autofill will never work, because there's no jaws scripting, so, even
the NVDA doesn't autofill.
if your talking about the windows 10 mail app, again there's no jaws
scripting, however with the NVDA, there's a windows essentials add-on which
works well.


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-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I have the same problem in Windows Live Mail as you are having in Outlook.
Autocomplete has never worked for me. I began using JAWS 17, and the problem

has been unabated through JAWS 2018 on a Windows 7 64-bit Pro PC. In fact,
when I pressed Control+K just now, the Check Names feature was activated,
but no names were found. When another screen reader is used, the
Autocomplete feature works perfectly. I'm sorry to say that.

-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 3:19 PM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook

With a lot of help from David Whitehead, my Outlook 2016 is working. But the
auto complete isn't so basically, I suppose there's still something
corrupted. The Microsoft person told me that he'd emptied auto complete, and
that if I write the first few letters and press control K, I'd get a list of
relevant addresses from which I could choose. I tried that just now with my
daughter's address and the list the control K brought up was completely
irrelevant. And I still have to paste in the correct address for the DB
Review list. David helped me upgrade to Jaws 2018 and we got rid of the to
Miriam folder,so I think that auto complete is just not going to happen,
except for the blind democracy list for some unknown reason.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] text to speech recorders

[Russ Kiehne]

You can also use a program called text a loud.  This same company has Ivona 
sapi voices that will work with jaws.  The link is:

http://www.textaloud.com

-Original Message- 
From: leonard morris

Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 8:45 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] text to speech recorders

I believe deleted the message but I thought someone was asking about
text to speech recorders. I found this information on the web.


The best free text to speech software 2018: convert any text to audio |
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Inquary

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Yes, you can use text a loud to do so.  Also from the same site, you can buy 
Ivona sapi voices that will work with jaws.  the link is:

http://www.textaloud.com

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From: Paul Mugambi

Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2018 1:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Inquary

Hello listers,
is there a  sofware that turns text to Audio?
are they open source or one has to buy?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

[Russ Kiehne]

The reason I use itunes file sharing, I transfer zip files that are each 
650mb in size.  It would take a lot longer to use such things as dropbox 
etc. to transfer them into voice dream reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Roger Newell

Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 2:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

You don't even have to use iTunes for that. Voice Dream can receive
files from cloud storage services like Dropbox and iCloud (not sure
about Google Drive), and you can also use other apps on your phone
like File Browser to act as an intermediary between your phone and
computer.

On 2/18/18, Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com> wrote:

The only thing I use itunes for is to transfer large zip files into voice
dream reader using itunes file sharing.

-Original Message-
From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 5:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

Hi Andy!
If I remember correctly, they are for iTunes 12.1, or close to that.
When he did these tutorials, you could still simply press CTRL+9 to listen
to thousands of radio stations. That is gone in iTunes 12.7. It probably 
has


changed, since he did them. You cannot use iTunes 12.7 to download media 
to


your iPhone anymore either, I believe. I am not sure how good the 
tutorials


would be except to introduce people to iTunes, and to set it up.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

How out of date? It seems like iTunes makes changes with each new version.
- Original Message -
From: "David Moore" <davidmoore0...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes



Hi,
I use iTunes with JAWS, and it is accessible to the point where you can
definitely use it to create your music library, and it is not too bad in
the store and buying music.
Jim Flusche, did three Audio Tutorials that I have. They are a little out
of date, but I will ask jim if I can share them on this list as a One
Drive link.
I will let you know if it is alright with Jim.
Take care, all!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dennis
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 9:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

Hi, how accessible is Jaws and I tunes?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

[Russ Kiehne]

The only thing I use itunes for is to transfer large zip files into voice 
dream reader using itunes file sharing.


-Original Message- 
From: David Moore

Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 5:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

Hi Andy!
If I remember correctly, they are for iTunes 12.1, or close to that.
When he did these tutorials, you could still simply press CTRL+9 to listen 
to thousands of radio stations. That is gone in iTunes 12.7. It probably has 
changed, since he did them. You cannot use iTunes 12.7 to download media to 
your iPhone anymore either, I believe. I am not sure how good the tutorials 
would be except to introduce people to iTunes, and to set it up.

David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 8:24 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

How out of date? It seems like iTunes makes changes with each new version.
- Original Message - 
From: "David Moore" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes



Hi,
I use iTunes with JAWS, and it is accessible to the point where you can
definitely use it to create your music library, and it is not too bad in
the store and buying music.
Jim Flusche, did three Audio Tutorials that I have. They are a little out
of date, but I will ask jim if I can share them on this list as a One
Drive link.
I will let you know if it is alright with Jim.
Take care, all!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dennis
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2018 9:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws and ITunes

Hi, how accessible is Jaws and I tunes?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] OE classic and jaws 18.

[Russ Kiehne]

I saw the following on another list:

JAWS scripts for the free OEClassic email client have been updated to work 
with JAWS 2018:

http://bit.ly/2BYiFrn

-Original Message- 
From: jimrawls

Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 10:31 AM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] OE classic and jaws 18.

Hi all, I am thinking of installing OE classic on my windows ten computer.
And I have questions.

Is it easy to install? Are there scripts for it, and where do I get them?
And is there any special things to watch for while installing the program? I
googled it and found OE classic 2.7 and saved the download for it. Will this
version work with jaws 18? If not, what version does work with jaws 18?
Thanks for all your help. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to transfer mp3 files from PC to iPhone

[Russ Kiehne]

I've never had to comvert my mp3 files to mp4 to play them on my ipod touch. 
I just transfer the mp3 files to the ipod touch and they play without any 
problems.


-Original Message- 
From: ratshtron

Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 10:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] How to transfer mp3 files from PC to iPhone

first of all, you will need to convert the .mp3 files to .mp4 files
for them to work with an Iphone. once that's done, all you need to do
is to connect your Iphone to your computer and start itunes and
select your iphone in itunes and copy and paste the ringtones from
your computer and paste them in to itunes. itunes will place them on
to your iphone as ringtones.


Legend has it that on Sunday 2/4/2018 09:45 AM, Dujari, Prateek said:

[] Using latest Jaws2018, iTunes on both my PC's-> a Win7 and a Win10.  I'm 
a rookie with transferring files from my PC to iPhone and all I would like 
to do is transfer mp3 files from PC to iPhone.
[] Would someone pl tell me how to do so given that my mp3 files are on my 
PC's hard drive, I've  latest iTunes and my iPhone is connected by the 
cable to USB port of my PC?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Nod 32 appears accessible with screen readers

[Russ Kiehne]

Have you tried it or has anyone else tried it?

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long 
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:51 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Nod 32 appears accessible with screen readers 


https://forum.eset.com/topic/13203-eset-nod32-11-beta/

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

[Russ Kiehne]

I received the following off list.  Perhaps someone who is using version 11 
can confirm this?


Yes,
I found out it will work with a screen reader and it if fairly accessible.
You just have to turn off the gamer mode.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 6:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

I would love to know myself.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

I see nod32 version 11 has been released.  Does it work with jaws?


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[JAWS-Users] Does nod32 version 11 work with jaws?

[Russ Kiehne]

I see nod32 version 11 has been released.  Does it work with jaws?


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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail account not working

[Russ Kiehne]

But you can still find the full installer elsewhere than Microsoft.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat66

Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 8:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail account not working

google it. no wlm support.
the entire essentials package was dropped by microsoft last febuary and  you
can not download it anymore from microsoft.

-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio

Sent: Monday, January 01, 2018 8:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail account not working

Andy, Where did you get the information that Microsoft was not going to
support Windows Live mail any longer?

Do you have a source you can tell us?

I would think if they weren't going to support it any longer, they would not
offer it up for download.

Am I wrong?
Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: andy t

Sent: Monday, January 1, 2018 8:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail account not working

   Hello Kimsan, when you changed your password, did you change it on
the AOL server or did you just change it in WLM? now if you changed it
in both places when this dialog appears just press the escape key.
I know for a fact that all my passwords are correct in both my server and in
the WLM program but I get the same thing some times several times a
day and then again I could go for a week or two and never have an issue also
I have had to dis connect my router for a minute and re connect it and it
works well with no issues.
I have also found another problem, sometime my WLM won't send any messages
and what I do there is close the program and re open it and it works
correctly.
I suppose this is caused by Microsoft no longer supporting the program and
because we are using it in windows 10 it may not function in windows
10 after the next update but we will have to wait and see.

-Original Message- 
From: Kimsan

Sent: Monday, January 01, 2018 7:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows live mail account not working

Hi,

I've noticed my aol.com email isn't work and hasn not been for a long while
now.

I changed the password and I get the dialog, Windows Live Mail

Some errors occurred while processing the requested tasks.  Please
Hidereview the list of errors below for more details.

Stop

<< Details

Tasks Errors

Unable to send or receive messages for the Aol (kimsansong) account. Header
download for

the 'Notes' folder did not complete. The connection to the server has
failed.

Server Response: Your IMAP command could not be sent to the server, due to
non-network

errors. This could, for example, indicate a lack of memory on your system.

Server: 'imap.aol.com'

Windows Live Mail Error ID: 0x800CCC0E

Protocol: IMAP

Port: 143

Secure(SSL): No

1 of 2 tasks have completed successfully

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password

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How To Automatically Login In Windows 10

Want to quickly boot to your Windows 10 desktop by skipping the login 
screen?
Would you like to avoid typing your account password each time you turn on 
your PC?

You can configure Windows 10 to automatically boot to the desktop or Start
screen.

The core benefit of configuring Windows 10 to automatically sign-in is you
don’t need to remember the password, which also means that you save a couple
of seconds during the boot. This, in turn, means that Windows 10 boots to 
the

Start screen or desktop a couple of seconds faster.

The procedure to set up automatic logon in Windows 10 is very similar to the
one in Windows 7 and Windows 8.

This method is applicable to both local user account and Microsoft account.
In other words, whether you’re using a Microsoft account or local user
account, you can use this guide to enable automatic logon.

WARNING: Enable automatic logon only if you are the sole user of your
computer. If you often share your computer with others, others will be able
to peek into your account without knowing the password.

You can follow one of the methods given below to turn on automatic login in
Windows 10.

Method 1 of 2

Automatically logon without password

This is the easiest way to automatically login to Windows 10 without 
entering

the password.

Step 1: First step is to open Run command box by simultaneously pressing
Windows logo and R keys (Windows+R). In the Run dialog box, type Netplwiz 
and

then press Enter key.

Step 2: In the resulting User Accounts dialog, select your user account 
first

and then uncheck the option labelled Users must enter a user name and
password to use this computer. Click Apply button to see Automatically sign
in box.

Step 3: In the Automatically sign in dialog, type your password and then
re-enter the password to confirm the same.

Finally, click OK button.

Method 2 of 2

Turn on automatic sign-in using Registry

If, for some reason, you’re not able to configure Windows 10 to 
automatically

logon by following the above method, please use this method.

Step 1: Open Registry Editor. To do so, type Regedit in the Start menu 
search

box or Run command box and then press Enter key. Click Yes button when you
see the UAC (User Account Control) box.

Step 2: In the Registry Editor, navigate to the following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

Step 3: On the right-side, look for the entry named DefaultUserName,
double-click on it and make sure that your Microsoft account or local user
account name is appearing under Value data box.

Step 4: Next, on the right-side again, look for the entry named
DefaultPassword. If the entry doesn’t exist, please create one by
right-clicking on the empty space, clicking New and then clicking String
Value. Rename it to DefaultPassword and enter your password in the Value 
data

box. Click OK button.


Step 5: Finally, you need to enable automatic logon. To do so, on the
right-side (once again), look for the entry labelled AutoAdminLogon and then
change its value from 0 (zero) to 1 (one).

That’s it! Restart your PC to see your Windows 10 automatically logging into
your account without asking you to enter the password. Good luck!

Without a doubt, the second method is not as easy as the first one.
Have fun with Windows 10!


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Monday, December 25, 2017 6:41 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows 10 Log-in Without Password

Hi All,

I'm running Windows 10 with Jaws 16 thru 2018.  How do I set-up Windows 10
so I don't have to put in a password everytime I start the computer?  I
would like for it to just start, & go to the desktop.  All help will be
greatly appreciated.  Thanks much.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Screen shade feature

[Russ Kiehne]

In my case on my windows 10 desktop computer, nothing happens when I press 
insert plus spacebard print screen.  I can turn on the screen shade using 
the quick settings option.


-Original Message- 
From: Michael

Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2017 3:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Screen shade feature

Just for the heck of it, I have tried to activate and deactivate the screen
shade feature using Jaws 2018 under the latest build of Windows 10 pro on my
desktop computer.  However, when I press the spacebar/insert/print screen
key combination, I either hear a rapid puttering sound, or I hear the sound
associated with the feature being triggered, but Jaws doesn't indicate
whether or not if the feature is on or off.  I could have sworn I heard the
on or off announcement during Jonathan Mosen's podcast.Am I missing
something?  Well, perhaps, but that's another story.  Grin.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws

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I can't seem to get the screen shade to work with windows 10 1709?

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long 
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 9:36 AM 
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] disappointed with new jaws 


I'm disappointed to see the screen shade is for windows 8 and 10 and that
you didn't include windows7.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with Jaws and installing Windows 10 updates

[Russ Kiehne]

Interesting, I just updated from windows 1703 to 1709 and I didn't have to 
remove any of my programs and all went well.


-Original Message- 
From: michael's emails

Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2017 7:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with Jaws and installing Windows 10 
updates


That is normal when you do that upgrading from 1 win ten to a later version
you will need to un install Jaws and other programs.
So just go ahead with the install and windows will remove apps.
Then yu will have to install them again.
I just did this couple weeks back
Cheers Michael.

-Original Message- 
From: el...@comcast.net

Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2017 11:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with Jaws and installing Windows 10
updates

Ah, glad to hear someone else is finding this. Received the same
notification but no way to learn just which apps are in the way.
Rick

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of The Iowa Gal
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2017 6:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with Jaws and installing Windows 10 updates

Hey group,

I'm using Jaws 2018.1710.36 and attempting to update a current version of
Windows 10. I am getting the following error, which I have never seen
before, and am wondering what to do.

Windows Update
Some apps need to be uninstalled
These programs need to be uninstalled because they aren't compatible with
the upgrade.
. JAWS for Windows
. JAWS for Windows
Uninstall and continue
Support Legal

Will upgrading to the latest build of Jaws resolve this issue? Any helpful
information will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Norma
Android: The Thinking Person's OS


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen after Windows 10 updates

[Russ Kiehne]

How To Automatically Login In Windows 10

Want to quickly boot to your Windows 10 desktop by skipping the login 
screen?
Would you like to avoid typing your account password each time you turn on 
your PC?

You can configure Windows 10 to automatically boot to the desktop or Start
screen.

The core benefit of configuring Windows 10 to automatically sign-in is you
don’t need to remember the password, which also means that you save a couple
of seconds during the boot. This, in turn, means that Windows 10 boots to 
the

Start screen or desktop a couple of seconds faster.

The procedure to set up automatic logon in Windows 10 is very similar to the
one in Windows 7 and Windows 8.

This method is applicable to both local user account and Microsoft account.
In other words, whether you’re using a Microsoft account or local user
account, you can use this guide to enable automatic logon.

WARNING: Enable automatic logon only if you are the sole user of your
computer. If you often share your computer with others, others will be able
to peek into your account without knowing the password.

You can follow one of the methods given below to turn on automatic login in
Windows 10.

Method 1 of 2

Automatically logon without password

This is the easiest way to automatically login to Windows 10 without 
entering

the password.

Step 1: First step is to open Run command box by simultaneously pressing
Windows logo and R keys (Windows+R). In the Run dialog box, type Netplwiz 
and

then press Enter key.

Step 2: In the resulting User Accounts dialog, select your user account 
first

and then uncheck the option labelled Users must enter a user name and
password to use this computer. Click Apply button to see Automatically sign
in box.

Step 3: In the Automatically sign in dialog, type your password and then
re-enter the password to confirm the same.

Finally, click OK button.

Method 2 of 2

Turn on automatic sign-in using Registry

If, for some reason, you’re not able to configure Windows 10 to 
automatically

logon by following the above method, please use this method.

Step 1: Open Registry Editor. To do so, type Regedit in the Start menu 
search

box or Run command box and then press Enter key. Click Yes button when you
see the UAC (User Account Control) box.

Step 2: In the Registry Editor, navigate to the following key:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon

Step 3: On the right-side, look for the entry named DefaultUserName,
double-click on it and make sure that your Microsoft account or local user
account name is appearing under Value data box.

Step 4: Next, on the right-side again, look for the entry named
DefaultPassword. If the entry doesn’t exist, please create one by
right-clicking on the empty space, clicking New and then clicking String
Value. Rename it to DefaultPassword and enter your password in the Value 
data

box. Click OK button.


Step 5: Finally, you need to enable automatic logon. To do so, on the
right-side (once again), look for the entry labelled AutoAdminLogon and then
change its value from 0 (zero) to 1 (one).

That’s it! Restart your PC to see your Windows 10 automatically logging into
your account without asking you to enter the password. Good luck!

Without a doubt, the second method is not as easy as the first one.
Have fun with Windows 10!


-Original Message- 
From: Audiobookfan

Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 9:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon 
screen after Windows 10 updates


I don't have an answer for you regarding the problem, other than to echo
someone else's comment that a recent JAWS 18 update supposedly addresses
this issue.

I can offer a work-around, however. You can configure Windows 10 to
automatically log into a specified default user account. This bypasses
the login screen and JAWS comes up talking. I don't recall the steps to
accomplish this, but if it's an alternative you want to consider, Let us
know and I'm sure someone can find the info for you.

Jeff


On 12/5/2017 2:16 PM, amca...@verizon.net wrote:

I am having intermittent issues with logging in on 2 different Windows10
machines and I am running 2018.  I have not called for technical 
assistance,

because there seems to be many different scenarios, or else I am losing my
mind.

Annette

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Christine Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2017 12:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Recurring problem: JAWS not speaking at logon screen
after Windows 10 updates

Hello Everyone,


I'm using Windows 10 with JAWS version 17.0.2729.


I'm seeking input regarding a recurring problem that I'm experiencing when
Windows 10 updates have taken place.


Whenever there has been a Windows 10 update, JAWS does not speak at the
logon screen.  I cannot tell when the logon screen appears 

[JAWS-Users] Is the current version of Nod32 accessible with JAWS?

[Russ Kiehne]

The reason I ask, I now get the message that nod32 version 8 is out of date.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] cannot install 2018

[Russ Kiehne]

I noticed you are using nod32?  What version are you using?  The reason I 
ask, I'm using version 8 and now I get a message from time to time telling 
me my version is out of date and I should upgrade to the current version.  I 
didn't have any problems with installing jaws 2018.


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 2:17 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] cannot install 2018

Hi Vicki, I also have Windows 7 Pro and Nod32, and I had no difficulty 
installing JAWS 2018. It was by far the fastest and easiest JAWS 
installation I've ever experienced. Did you follow the download link 
provided by Mike B, as opposed to installing from a disc?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Vicki W.

Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2017 4:35 PM
To: JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] cannot install 2018

I am unable to install JAWS 2018 on either computer. I am up to date on 
everything.


I am using Windows 7 pro.

I am using Nod32 as my antivirus, but have never had a problem with that 
before.


Any suggestions as to what to try?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

[Russ Kiehne]

I bought jaws back in July of this year.  To date, I didn't get a 2018 cd.

-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:24 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD

Dave, we're not putting up with you. It's you who are being gracious after 
having been forced to make the switch.
VFO has sent out a CD for every new version of JAWS to present, and I 
haven't heard anything different regarding 2018. However, I usually find 
that by the time the CD arrives, VFO has already released an update, and I 
rely on those updates to fix problems. I'd recommend downloading the current 
release from the VFO/FS website.
But either way, don't discard the CD and its container. I believe new users 
get an authorization disc or some other item that you will need to keep 
safe. If I'm mistaken, I count on others to correct me.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Pearson

Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 2:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] 2018 CD



Hello list,

  Being new to Jaws after having Window eyes. I was wondering if a CD for 
version 2018 would be sent out like new versions of window eyes would be. 
Then I have to say after getting used to jaws talking to much, it is as easy 
to use as window eyes. Thanks for putting up with us new users.


   Dave


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Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

[Russ Kiehne]

   Interesting, I was able to follow the download progress when I used the 
check for updates option in settings using window eyes.   didn't try it 
using jaws 2018 beta 3.


-Original Message- 
From: Inam Uddin

Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 3:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

Dear friend, yes Microsoft disability is right.
There is no way to let you the progress of downloading until your machine 
prompt you to restart the system!



When the power of love overcomes the love of power
then the world know what is peace!
You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddi...@gmail.com
outlook:
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add me on my Skype ID:
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From: Adam Morris
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2017 1:59 PM
To: Jaws for Windows.
Subject: [JAWS-Users] update progress with win10?

Hi all,

running jaws2018.

If I go to settings and then update and security.

then check for updates I'm told there is one update which is 1709.

I gather there is no way to tell whether the update is downloading or not?

Spoke to Microsoft accessibility who said there is no way to tell if the
update is being downloaded.

They said the only way to tell is when the machine prompts you to restart.

Wondering if this is correct or if I haven't started the download yet.



--

Adam Morris
Jaws certified 2016
Phone:
+61 2 6654 
Email, iMessage & FaceTime
a...@damorris.com


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Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build

[Russ Kiehne]

And how about better support for windows live mail 2012?  I would like to be 
able to arrow up and down the message list and have jaws say: replied to, 
forwarded, attachment.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 9:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build

I agree they need to spend more time on thunder Bird.  Maybe write scripts
if it will help improve things.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Barnett
Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2017 8:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build


From what I have seen outside of business's TB is widely used. Outlook and

thunderbird are very popular.
On 10/14/2017 10:24 AM, cheez wrote:

Thunderbird wasn't mentioned in the fix.  I don't think there are many
that use it.

Vince



- Original Message - From: "Maria Campbell"

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2017 8:28 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build



Really? And why would that be?


lucky1i...@gmail.com

"Preach the Gospel, and when necessary use words!"
--St. Francis

On 10/11/2017 12:27 AM, cheez wrote:

I don't think they fix was for Thunderbird. Just Outlook.

Vince

- Original Message - From: "Maria Campbell"

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2017 3:55 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] New JAWS 18 build



I see this build still did not fix the inability to read the amount
of messages in Thunderbird folders by pressing insert plus num pad 3.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

[Russ Kiehne]

   I agree.  Also it would be nice if jaws would say: replied to, 
forwarded, attachment in WLM?


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 4:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

This feature has never worked with JAWS and WLM.

-Original Message- 
From: Reed

Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

When I am in the TO: field, I type the first letter of a name.  With
previous versions of JAWS, the first name beginning with that first letter
in my autocomplete list would be spoken.  If I was to hit the down-arrow
key, the next name in the list would be spoken.  I could down-arrow through
the list until I found the name I wanted.  When I hit the tab key, the name
would be inserted in to the TO: field and I could begin typing the next
to-name and repeat the process for this second name.  None of this is
working with the new release of JAWS.  After I have typed that first letter
and hit the down-arrow key, I hear a beep; indicating that I can't
down-arrow through the list.  So, it isn't that JAWS just isn't announcing
it.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: September 27, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

It does. Jaws just doesn’t announce it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Hello;
I also noticed with this newest update, the  AutoComplete doesn't work in
outlook 2016.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

This build of JAWS 18 still does not read the status line in Thunderbird
with insert num pad 3, as where JAWS 2018 does.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] an unknown error occur

[Russ Kiehne]

Try shift plus the delete key to delete those messages.

-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 5:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] an unknown error occur

Hi, all
Got this message when I went to jumk mail to delete 2 mails. Everytime I 
attempt to delete them, the message occur. I have to enter on OK to get out. 
email start with some accessible... Help. Using jaws 18, W10. Window 
Live Mail.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?

[Russ Kiehne]

I bought jaws for that price during the ACB and NFB convention.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 9:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS for Only $125?


This sounds too good to be true, but someone on another list claims that he 
was told by a VFO phone rep today that they now offer a low-cost program 
whereby you can purchase a full copy of JAWS for a one-time payment of only 
$125, or $225 with two SMA’s regardless of income, rather than the standard 
price of $1000.  Has anyone heard about this low-cost program?  Or did this 
person misunderstand what the rep told him?  After all, if anyone, excluding 
businesses and government agencies,  could buy a fully unrestricted copy of 
JAWS for a mere $125, why would they choose to buy it for the regular price 
of $1000 instead?  This just doesn’t make any sense.  There must be a catch.


Gerald

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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

[Russ Kiehne]

Thanks, I want to give it a try to see if the tripletalk usb issue has been 
addressed?


-Original Message- 
From: rosecomb...@cox.net

Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 8:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

Yes, just like in the past you can switch between versions.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2017 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

I have a question about it?

Am I able to switch between jaws 18 and jaws 2018?

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

You can't make it  magically appear now? :)

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

It will magically appear on Thursday, 8/31 at 10:00 AM Eastern Time. You
will find it at www.freedomscientific.com under the "News" heading.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F
727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Danny
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

The fscast stated that the beta of 2018 should be available about the time
of the podcast.  I have been unable to find the beta file to download.  Does
anyone have any idea where I can find this download?

Danny
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

[Russ Kiehne]

I have a question about it?

Am I able to switch between jaws 18 and jaws 2018?

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 2:49 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

You can't make it  magically appear now? :)

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Eric Damery
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 5:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

It will magically appear on Thursday, 8/31 at 10:00 AM Eastern Time. You
will find it at www.freedomscientific.com under the "News" heading.

Regards,
Eric

Eric Damery
VFO(tm) | VP Software Product Management
11800 31st Court North, St. Petersburg, FL 33716 T 727-299-6110 F
727-803-8001 edam...@vfogroup.com www.vfogroup.com


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Danny
Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2017 4:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS 2018

The fscast stated that the beta of 2018 should be available about the time
of the podcast.  I have been unable to find the beta file to download.  Does
anyone have any idea where I can find this download?

Danny
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows10 question

[Russ Kiehne]

It's also my understanding you can also read epub with Edge?

-Original Message- 
From: Panagiotis Antonopoulos

Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 12:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows10 question

Hi all,
Actually I think edge does give an option to save. On my other computer at
my working base, it somehow became default, so, if I want to download say a
pdf file, then edge opens rather than firefox. bBy tabbing it can still give
you buttons feedback, though not much else. I was then able to save a file
without having to go to adobe but after this process, and I have also
managed to print a pdf from edge. However, I have not achieved much more and
I am too, looking forward   to have it become accessible to us. Although I
am using firefox, I will not say I greatly like it.
Greetings from a windy start here on Euboea,
Takis

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of rosecomb...@cox.net
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:00 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows10 question

I use IE 11, it has a way to save favorites, Chrome so far as I could tell
when it was the default on my other computer did not, and Firefox always has
locked up on me regardless of the configuration or computer I had it on.

Edge saves nothing according to sighted cousin not even with a mouse.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows10 question

I won't mind giving Edge a spin just for the hell of it, but I suspect it
won't be as good as Firefox or even Chrome for quite some time, as far as
convenience ad ease of use with JAWS goes. For the moment at least, you're
definitely better off using those browsers. As Ed said, Edge support is
still in the preparation stage. Apparently you can use it with NVDA, but how
well it works, I have no idea.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 7:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows10 question

Hi,
Edge does not work with Jaws at this time. In about another month Jaws is
suppose to work with Edge.
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of alex stone
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 5:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Windows10 question







As a new windows10 user, how I find out how to use Microsoft
Edge with jaws?


Get Outlook for iOS

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Re-starting Jaws 18

[Russ Kiehne]

That's probably because jaws has crashed.  In my case, using the jaws say 
all command (insert down arrow) on any webpage using internet explorer or 
firefox with my tripletalk usb after a few seconds, the tripletalk usb 
stoppes speaking and jaws crashed.  I had someone look at the screen and I 
got the message that jaws hasstopped working.


-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 1:43 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Re-starting Jaws 18

Since Jaws has never restarted, it never popped up. I sit there and wait,
and nothing happens.

Miriam

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Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 3:39 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Re-starting Jaws 18

it pops up automatically when jaws restarts. then you are notified to send
or send automatically without notifying you.;

-Original Message-
From: Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 12:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Re-starting Jaws 18

How does one get the error report after doing that type of JAWS re-start?

Tim Ford


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Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 12:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Re-starting Jaws 18

Freedom said that the error reports sometimes really help them.
Justin

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Behalf Of Tim Ford
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 3:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Re-starting Jaws 18

Just amending the subject line since this string has gone on for some time
with just "JAWS 18" as the subject.

Tim Ford


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Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: Friday, August 4, 2017 11:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18

if it comes back at all it takes about 20 seconds with a error report most
of the time. thats why i don't use it.

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, August 04, 2017 6:43 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18

But Jaws doesn't appear to come back when I do it.

Miriam

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Behalf Of Justin Williams
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2017 11:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18

Actually, that keystroke shuts down jaws, and brings it back up
automatically without having to toggle.
Justin

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Behalf Of Miriam Vieni
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2017 10:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws 18

Please tell me again, in detail, what to do when Jaws 18 disappears. I wrote
down to press Jaws key plus windows key plus F4 and this turns off Jaws. And
if I press these keys again, they act as a toggle. Am I supposed to press
them simultaneously? When I press them the first time, I can see with my
hugely magnified Magic that the screen changes. But I haven't gotten Jaws to
restart with those keys or with any others. I am having to resort to turning
the computer off with the button and then turning it on again. Even though I
can see that I've moved to the screen that says, "Shut Down", the key
strokes don't work. But, after I press the button, just before the screen
changes, Jaws says something, but then the computer shuts down. I have a 64
bit windows 7 computer. I'd sell my soul for a key stroke that would just
get Jaws working again without having to shut down the computer and wait for
it to start and load.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Russ Kiehne]

   As youstated, the jaws say all commend is insert+down arrow.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 7:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Pardon my ignorance here, but what exactly is the "say all" command?

Is it insert on the numpad plus the number 2?

I ask this because Jaws has occasionally crashed for me using this command 
as well with IE and Firefox.


Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2017 9:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

In my case, jaws crashes when using the jaws say all command using internet 
explorer or firefox with my tripletalk usb.  From what I was told the same 
thing happens with the dectalk usb.


-Original Message-
From: The Iowa Gal
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our minds, 
huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Flusche
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now
everything works like a charm.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Steve
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not
duplicatable, but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to
be a bug somewhere in the program.

When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish
i.e. not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go
and close IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.

If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
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To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing



Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also
happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with
Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have
assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all
guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to
restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from
an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this
annoyance.  Mitch

“The problem with quotes on the Internet
   is that people instantly believe they’re real.”

   -(Abraham Lincoln)

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
Office
365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been
suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing
happens. If I press the power  button lightly, just before the
computer turns off, Jaws starts to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop
the computer from turning off.
It
just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to
anyone else? What do you do when it happens?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Russ Kiehne]

In my case, jaws crashes when using the jaws say all command using internet 
explorer or firefox with my tripletalk usb.  From what I was told the same 
thing happens with the dectalk usb.


-Original Message- 
From: The Iowa Gal

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:10 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

So if you're not having the issue, the rest of us are just losing our minds, 
huh? Here's another vote for it being an I.E. problem.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jim Flusche

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 5:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

This is Not a Internet Explorer issue. I am running latest Jaws 18, the 
Creators update, office 365, current updates to all. I am having no issues.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of JM Casey

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

I always used to have these sorts of issues with iE...any version, of either 
JAWS or IE. I finally pretty much switched 100% to firefox and now 
everything works like a charm.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve

Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Just to add to this, I have the same issue with Jaws 16 through 18 on a Win
7 Ultimate system.

It invariably seems to correlate to the use of IE 11.  It is not 
duplicatable, but it does happen with enough consistency that there's got to 
be a bug somewhere in the program.


When it happens, if I can get Jaws to stumble-and-bumble to the process 
manager, I can close IE and reload Jaws.  Oftentimes, Jaws is so sluggish 
i.e. not quite non-responsive -- that I end up loading System Access to go 
and close IE11 and Jaws.  Then, I can re-load Jaws and its happy.


If I use a competitive screen-reader, I've not encountered these issues.

Steve
- Original Message -
From: 
To: 
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing



Hi Miriam,  The mysterious and annoying behavior you describe also
happens to me on occasion.  Likewise, I have the latest JAWS 18 with
Windows 7 and a 64 bit system.
Short of rebooting the system, applying the hot key sequence I have
assigned to JAWS 18 will sometimes return speech but it's all
guesswork and when the hot key fails to return speech, I am forced to
restart the system.  Lastly, it seems to happen when tabbing away from
an open web site but beyond this pattern, I remain puzzled by this
annoyance.  Mitch

“The problem with quotes on the Internet
   is that people instantly believe they’re real.”

   -(Abraham Lincoln)

-Original Message-
From: Miriam Vieni
Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 6:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 .
Office
365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been
suggested, appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing
happens. If I press the power  button lightly, just before the
computer turns off, Jaws starts to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop 
the computer from turning off.

It
just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to
anyone else? What do you do when it happens?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

[Russ Kiehne]

I have the following problem with jaws.  When using the jaws say all command 
(insert+down arrow) when reading a webpage or html document, my tripletalk 
stopps speaking after a few seconds.  Here's what Mike from Access Solutions 
said about it.


hi russ, yesterday i decided to test the synth in
jaws 17.0219x?  and there was no problem with the
say all command and no problem with holding the
parameters such as pitch  etc.  but in jaws 18
some how freedom broke it.  so that kind of
proves what i have said that the problem is
freedoms side.  was going to see about rewriting
the speech drivers but when i asked for the
software development kid it was from 2012 and
these drivers are younger than that.  from what i
know freedom is awhere of the problem and is
looking into it.  so whose knows there is suppose
to be a update this month so maybe they will have
it fixed.  lets hope so anyway.  c u m

-Original Message- 
From: Vicky Vaughan

Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 8:33 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Hi Miriam, Yes, I have the same problem with Jaws going silent for no known
reason. I am using Jaws 16 on a 64 byt Win7 computer. It doesn't seem to
make any difference as to how long it has been since the last reboot or full
shut-down.

I wish I had something helpful to offer, but, like you, shutting down has
been the only way I've been able to get Jaws back.

It's nice to know that I'm not alone in this!

Sincerely, Vicky



-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Monday, July 17, 2017 9:52 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws still disappearing

Even after this latest update, Jaws occasionally and unexpectedly goes
silent when I change from one window to another. Jaws 18, Windows 7 . Office
365, 64 bit computer. None of the key strokes that have been suggested,
appear to work. I go to the desktop and wait. Nothing happens. If I press
the power  button lightly, just before the computer turns off, Jaws starts
to talk. But I can't, at that point, stop the computer from turning off. It
just happened to  me again. Very frustrating! Is this happening to anyone
else? What do you do when it happens?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

[Russ Kiehne]

I fixed the issue.  I had to remove the non tandom version of jaws and 
install the tandom version.  All is working as it should.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...

Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

Russ,

Did you try doing a repair of your current version of JAWS?
Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Russ Kiehne" <russ94...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 06:57
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18


Will that option also keep my jaws key?

-Original Message- 
From: Fernando Gregoire

Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 4:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

Hi Russ,
No, you should to uninstall the non-Tandem build before installing the
normal one. However, to accelerate installation process and keep your
current settings, choose to uninstall JAWS only and, when prompted if you
want to remove user files for your account, answer No.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

I think you just answered the problem,  I installed an English non-Tandem
build.  Do I install the tandem build over the top of what I'm running?

-Original Message-
From: Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

I think it could be for one or more of the following reasons:

  - You have JAWS installed in a language where Check for Updates feature
  is not available. As far as I know, the only languages besides English in
  which this feature is available are Dutch, French, French Canadian,
German
  and Spanish; I don't remember if Brazilian Portuguese too.
  - You specified a special update code or Registry key to disable
  checking for updates.
  - You are using an English non-Tandem build.
  - You are running JAWS as a portable copy.


2017-07-12 11:22 GMT-03:00 Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>:


I'm wondering why in jaws when I use the check for updates, it's
unavailable?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

[Russ Kiehne]

Will that option also keep my jaws key?

-Original Message- 
From: Fernando Gregoire

Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 4:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

Hi Russ,
No, you should to uninstall the non-Tandem build before installing the 
normal one. However, to accelerate installation process and keep your 
current settings, choose to uninstall JAWS only and, when prompted if you 
want to remove user files for your account, answer No.


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Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

I think you just answered the problem,  I installed an English non-Tandem 
build.  Do I install the tandem build over the top of what I'm running?


-Original Message-
From: Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

I think it could be for one or more of the following reasons:

  - You have JAWS installed in a language where Check for Updates feature
  is not available. As far as I know, the only languages besides English in
  which this feature is available are Dutch, French, French Canadian, 
German

  and Spanish; I don't remember if Brazilian Portuguese too.
  - You specified a special update code or Registry key to disable
  checking for updates.
  - You are using an English non-Tandem build.
  - You are running JAWS as a portable copy.


2017-07-12 11:22 GMT-03:00 Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>:


I'm wondering why in jaws when I use the check for updates, it's
unavailable?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

[Russ Kiehne]

I think you just answered the problem,  I installed an English non-Tandem 
build.  Do I install the tandem build over the top of what I'm running?


-Original Message- 
From: Fernando Gregoire

Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:22 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

I think it could be for one or more of the following reasons:

  - You have JAWS installed in a language where Check for Updates feature
  is not available. As far as I know, the only languages besides English in
  which this feature is available are Dutch, French, French Canadian, 
German

  and Spanish; I don't remember if Brazilian Portuguese too.
  - You specified a special update code or Registry key to disable
  checking for updates.
  - You are using an English non-Tandem build.
  - You are running JAWS as a portable copy.


2017-07-12 11:22 GMT-03:00 Russ Kiehne <russ94...@gmail.com>:


I'm wondering why in jaws when I use the check for updates, it's
unavailable?



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

[Russ Kiehne]

   I downloaded the 64bit installer and after the install, I got the error 
message that the jaaws update component can't be found.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Behler

Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

Russ:

I directly downloaded and installed the latest Jaws update via the
appropriate linkthat was posted on the list last night.

Here are the links for the 32-bit and 64-bit versions.

32 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4104MAPA49/J18.0.4104enu-x86.exe


64 Bit:

http://jaws18.vfo.digital/4104MAPA49/J18.0.4104enu-x64.exe


I have never had much luck with the Jaws update feature, and simply work
directly with the executable files themselves.

I hope this helps.

Tom Behler

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 10:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

   I don't have the latest update.  I tried to install the July update by
downloading it.  I get an error stating that the jaws update component can't
be found.

-Original Message-
From: Dave ...
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

Possible that you already have the latest?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18


I'm wondering why in jaws when I use the check for updates, it's
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

[Russ Kiehne]

   I don't have the latest update.  I tried to install the July update by 
downloading it.  I get an error stating that the jaws update component can't 
be found.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave ...

Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

Possible that you already have the latest?

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 07:22
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18


I'm wondering why in jaws when I use the check for updates, it's
unavailable?



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[JAWS-Users] Check for update unavailable in jaws 18

[Russ Kiehne]

I'm wondering why in jaws when I use the check for updates, it's 
unavailable?




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Re: [JAWS-Users] DecTalk Synthesizer was: Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

[Russ Kiehne]

I'll forward your message to Access Solutions.  They are now in the process 
of working on the tripletalk usb issue.  They also make the dectalk usb.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

[Russ Kiehne]

Yes, I did go through the process of selecting tripletalk as my synthesizer. 
It does show up as a profile in jaws.


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 7:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

Ah, got it. An obvious question: did you go through the process of having 
JAWS recognize TripleTalk? On the face of it, you must have, or else it 
wouldn't be working at all. But I ask anyway. I know how important it is to 
maintain access to the synth we like.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I'm a part of the Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration.  I just installed the most 
current version of jaws.  I did contact the company and they said they 
didn't hear of anyone with this issue.  They said they would do some 
testing.


-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

None relating to an external synthesizer that I'm aware of. Again, did this 
problem begin after a JAWS or other update? If not, are you able to contact 
the manufacturer or sales rep? I don't know if the company is still around.
Sadly, the maker of the Dectalk Express has long since disappeared in a maze 
of mergers.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

Yes, the say all command does work with a software synthesizer.  This is why 
I think it's a tripletalk issue.  Does jaws keep any kind of log file I can 
look at to see what is going on?


-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I also have an external synthesizer, Dectalk Express, and I doubt Narrator 
could help me solve the problem if it's with the synth. Do you think it's 
worth trying "say all" with the internal synthesizer, Eloquence, which I 
think is loaded by default. You could find it quickly by pressing JAWS

key+control+s and down-arrowing through the choices.

If you post again, you might indicate if you've updated anything recently, 
such as JAWS. Also, have you unloaded and reloaded JAWS and/or rebooted in 
case either of those operations can fix the problem?


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I have the original tripletalk usb.  What happens is, when I  start reading 
a webpage or html document with the jaws say all command, I lose speech 
after a short period of time.  I can't even start narrator on windows 10 to 
find out what happened.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

[Russ Kiehne]

I'm a part of the Window-Eyes to JAWS Migration.  I just installed the most 
current version of jaws.  I did contact the company and they said they 
didn't hear of anyone with this issue.  They said they would do some 
testing.


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 6:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

None relating to an external synthesizer that I'm aware of. Again, did this 
problem begin after a JAWS or other update? If not, are you able to contact 
the manufacturer or sales rep? I don't know if the company is still around. 
Sadly, the maker of the Dectalk Express has long since disappeared in a maze 
of mergers.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

Yes, the say all command does work with a software synthesizer.  This is why 
I think it's a tripletalk issue.  Does jaws keep any kind of log file I can 
look at to see what is going on?


-Original Message-
From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I also have an external synthesizer, Dectalk Express, and I doubt Narrator 
could help me solve the problem if it's with the synth. Do you think it's 
worth trying "say all" with the internal synthesizer, Eloquence, which I 
think is loaded by default. You could find it quickly by pressing JAWS

key+control+s and down-arrowing through the choices.

If you post again, you might indicate if you've updated anything recently, 
such as JAWS. Also, have you unloaded and reloaded JAWS and/or rebooted in 
case either of those operations can fix the problem?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I have the original tripletalk usb.  What happens is, when I  start reading 
a webpage or html document with the jaws say all command, I lose speech 
after a short period of time.  I can't even start narrator on windows 10 to 
find out what happened.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part 2

[Russ Kiehne]

This message seems to have nothing regarding Creators update, The Insert and 
Escape keys, your best friend part 2?


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Flusche

Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best 
friend part 2


Creators update, The Insert and Escape keys, your best friend part 2



From your humble Pinhead!

A Ballast for My Soul

Life is like a stormy sea
That tosses to and fro,
But God's Word will ever be
A ballast for my soul.

By its truth I'll be held fast
Till I reach heaven's shore
Where I will be home at last
And sail life's sea no more!

Author: Perry Boardman

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

[Russ Kiehne]

Yes, the say all command does work with a software synthesizer.  This is why 
I think it's a tripletalk issue.  Does jaws keep any kind of log file I can 
look at to see what is going on?


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Thursday, June 1, 2017 9:00 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I also have an external synthesizer, Dectalk Express, and I doubt Narrator 
could help me solve the problem if it's with the synth. Do you think it's 
worth trying "say all" with the internal synthesizer, Eloquence, which I 
think is loaded by default. You could find it quickly by pressing JAWS 
key+control+s and down-arrowing through the choices.


If you post again, you might indicate if you've updated anything recently, 
such as JAWS. Also, have you unloaded and reloaded JAWS and/or rebooted in 
case either of those operations can fix the problem?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

I have the original tripletalk usb.  What happens is, when I  start reading 
a webpage or html document with the jaws say all command, I lose speech 
after a short period of time.  I can't even start narrator on windows 10 to 
find out what happened.


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[JAWS-Users] Problem with original tripletalk usb with jaws

[Russ Kiehne]

I have the original tripletalk usb.  What happens is, when I  start reading a 
webpage or html document with the jaws say all command, I 
lose speech after a short period of time.  I can't even start narrator on 
windows 10 to find out what happened.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

[Russ Kiehne]

I'd like to get a good overview of using file sharing with jaws.  I use file 
sharing in itunes to transfer large zipped files into voice dream reader.  I 
hope jaws works better than window eyes in itunes.


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Flusche

Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 7:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

Hi Russ, no, I have not used itunes file sharing? I don't have a clue. 
Smiles.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2017 9:19 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

Hi Jim,

I saved it as a text file for future use.  By chance, have you used itunes 
file sharing?  If so, can you add how to use it to this tutorial?


-Original Message-
From: Jim Flusche
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 8:09 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

Hi Russ, below is the text guide I did for iTunes, let me know if this helps 
you.

Using iTunes 12 with Jaws 18.
This is a text tutorial, provided freely by The W-10 and Jaws group.
Author: Jim Flusche

**Press ALT+V, moves you to the View Tab in iTunes.
**After pressing ALT+V, you will see the following items.
*Tip, we need to go to the Column Browser sub menu first.
So Down arrow past the following items, on your way to the Column Browser 
sub menu.

Media Kind sub menu.
All Music checked.
Only Downloaded Music.
Sort By sub menu.
Show View Options Ctrl+J.
**Column Browser sub menu, press the Right arrow key one time.
If you hear, Show Column Browser, press Enter.
*Tip, you will need to press ALT+V, again, Arrow down and Right arrow back 
inside the Column Browser sub menu.
**Make sure you have the four items checked below, these four items have a * 
before them.
*Tip, Each time you press the Enter key, to check one of these items, you 
will need to press ALT+V, to go back inside the View tab, and go back to 
where you were.

Hide Column Browser Ctrl+Shift+B.
Genres.
*Artists checked.
*Albums checked.
Composers.
Groupings.
*Group Compilations checked.
*Use Album Artists checked.
Hide Column Browser Ctrl+Shift+B.
**Press the left arrow, from inside the Column Browser sub menu.
**You will hear, Column Browser sub menu.
**Now continue to Arrow down, you will hear the following items.
Show Up Next Ctrl+Shift+U.
Show Status Bar Ctrl+/.
Hide Sidebar Ctrl+S.
sideo Playback Unavailable sub menu.
Visualizer sub menu.
Full Screen Ctrl+Shift+F Unavailable.
Show MiniPlayer Ctrl+Shift+1.
Show Equalizer Ctrl+Shift+2.
Show Activity Window Ctrl+Shift+3.
Switch to MiniPlayer Ctrl+Shift+M.
Media Kind sub menu.
*Tip, you have now wrapped back to the top of the view tab.
**Pressing the Right arrow, and pressing the down arrow as you go through 
the Media Kind sub menu, you will see the following items.
*Tip, each item has a Control+Number row shortcut, to switch directly to 
that item.

**For example, for this lesson right now, I have Music checked.
Music Ctrl+1 checked.
Movies Ctrl+2.
TV Shows Ctrl+3.
Podcasts Ctrl+4.
iTunes U Ctrl+5.
Audiobooks Ctrl+6.
Apps Ctrl+7.
Tones Ctrl+8.
Internet Radio Ctrl+9.
*Tip, the three I use the most are:
**Control+1, for Music.
**Control+4, for Podcasts.
**Control+9, for Internet radio.
*Reminder, If you are in Music, press Control+9 on the number row, you will 
open and be placed in the Internet radio treeview list.

**Right arrow opens a Music category, Left arrow closes it.
**More about Internet radio later.
*Tip, in this lesson I will use the Search edit box, as the central place to 
show you how to, navigate through iTunes 12 with Jaws.

**We will use the F6, key quite a bit in navigating iTunes 12 with Jaws.
**Press the F6 key, several times until you hear Search edit.
**Press the F6 key, one more time from the Search edit box, you will land 
on, Library Sidebar Tree view, mine is set to Songs.

For example, press F6 until you hear, Search Edit Type in text.
**Press F6 one more time, you will hear, Library Sidebar Tree view Songs 5 
of 20.

**Now press the Home key, takes you to the top of the list.
As you press the Down arrow key, you will hear the following items.
**Pressing Insert+Up arrow, Jaws will say, Recently Added, this incorrectly 
says, 2 of 20, this is the first item.

On my computer, there are 16 items in the list, ignore the numbers.
Library Sidebar Tree view Artists 3 of 20 Albums, Sidebar Tree view, 4 of 
20.

Library Sidebar Tree view Songs 5 of 20
Library Sidebar Tree view Genres 6 of 20 Videos Genius Purchased 90’s Music 
Classical Music My Top Rated Recently Played Top 25 Most Played *Tip, the 
next three with a * before them, are my created playlist.

*Chill out
*Saxophone
*Work out
*Tip, first letter navigation does work in this list.
**Quickly type S,O, You will land on Songs, this is what you want set here 
for now.

**For example, you will hear, Library Sidebar Tree view

Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

[Russ Kiehne]

ist, press Enter to play.
15. When you are done listening to a playlist, make sure you change it back 
to Songs.
16. How to change your library back to Songs, press the F6 key, go to Search 
edit, press F6 one time, type S,O, quickly, will set it back to Songs, press 
F6 two times, to go to the Artist list.
All member feedback is appreciated by me about any of my lessons, at all 
times, here on the W-10 and Jaws group.


*My purpose for developing all of this free material for the Blind computer 
user is to help teach and assist a Blind person to use w-10 with a Screen 
reader like Jaws.
*My hope is that the Blind computer user will grow in confidence, in their 
ability, to use, and to navigate the w-10 computer system, using just Jaws.
*We also have group members, to can help teach about using NVDA, on a W-10 
computer as well.
*This is one of many tutorials, I hope to produce, for the Blind community, 
to help teach all of them, how to use a W-10 computer using Jaws.
*My hope is , That over time, they would learn how to do, and complete, 
various computer tasks in W-10, all by themselves.
*The W-10 and Jaws yahoo group is a freely provided ministry of The River 
Yahoo group.
*I freely offer the W-10 and Jaws group, and all of its materials, as a free 
and voluntary work of love, to reach out and teach all the blind computer 
users all over the world, how to learn how to use a W-10 computer using 
Jaws.


You can subscribe to The  Windows 10 and Jaws Yahoo group at:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in

You can subscribe to The River group at:

the-river-subscr...@yahoogroups.com

Happy learning! God bless!
Sincerely: Jim Flusche.
Owner of the Windows 10 and Jaws and The River Yahoo groups.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Russ Kiehne

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 9:54 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

   I'd like to have that tutorial as well.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 12:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

Could you just please send me the tutorial?  Thanks.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Moore

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

Hi Dennis.
JAWS works very well with the latest version of iTunes. Jim Flusche, has two 
great audio tutorials on his group that he did on using iTunes with JAWS, 
and even navigating the store. I use iTunes all of the time to organize my 
music and to have great libraries of music. To get the tutorial, Join Jim’s

list:
windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in
JAWS 18 works the best.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

How accessible is I tunes with Jaws?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

[Russ Kiehne]

   I'd like to have that tutorial as well.
Thanks.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 12:02 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

Could you just please send me the tutorial?  Thanks.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of David Moore

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 1:26 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

Hi Dennis.
JAWS works very well with the latest version of iTunes. Jim Flusche, has two 
great audio tutorials on his group that he did on using iTunes with JAWS, 
and even navigating the store. I use iTunes all of the time to organize my 
music and to have great libraries of music. To get the tutorial, Join Jim’s 
list:

windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in
JAWS 18 works the best.
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Dennis Long
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 10:18 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] I tunes and jaws

How accessible is I tunes with Jaws?

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[JAWS-Users] Question regarding the system tray with jaws

[Russ Kiehne]

When I press insert+f11 with jaws, I only have 2 items in the system tray?
with window eyes, I have 11 items in the system tray.  Why is this?
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[JAWS-Users] Labeling graphics in wlm 2012

[Russ Kiehne]

I used jaws in the past on a trial bases.  When I arrow up and down in the wlm 
2012 message list, jaws doesn’t speak things like: read, replied to forwarded 
etc.  By chance, does anyone happen to have the file with these graphics 
labeled?  If not, how do I label them?
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