Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

2017-12-03 Thread David Ferrin

Firefox ESR works but the other called quantum is a waste of time.

I'm pondering posting on the server the version that works if I can do it 
legally.


-Original Message- 
From: Fernando Gregoire

Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 9:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

Theoretically, the three major browsers (IE, Firefox and Chrome) are fully 
compatible with JAWS, and now JAWS 2018 and 18 with latest updates are 
starting to provide Edje support. That last support is currently very 
unstable.
Personally, despite the Firefox Quantum disaster that I hope Mozilla will 
fix soon, I find that the browser which offers, in conjunction, the best 
navigation experience with JAWS is Firefox. Chrome would be the second, but 
there are important Chrome issues handling edit boxes, especially on ritch 
text edit controls. The advantage of using IE is that it is the core used by 
JAWS support for virtual documents, so text selection and copying with 
Virtual PC cursor work better than in other browsers.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Washington

Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

I am a long time user of Internet Explorer and am currently using the latest 
version of IE with latest Windows 10.  However it seems a number of websites

I frequent are no longer fully accessible with IE.   Can you recommend what
browsers are now fully compatible with Jaws 2018?  I have tried Google 
Chrome but am having difficulties using it.


Thanks for any help.

Greg W

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

2017-12-03 Thread JM Casey
Yes. I know this is a subjective issue, but one reason I have always preferred 
PCs over Macs is that you always have a choice. And there's no reason why you 
should use only one browser. I have all four on this computer, and although I 
haven't bothered with Edge at all, I might someday. My girlfriend uses Chrome 
most of the time. I use Firefox. If I get absolutely stuck I might pull out iE 
for a spin, although it hardly works right on some sites nowadays.

Re: the "Firefox quantum disaster" -- it actually works pretty damn well with 
nVDA. Not sure why JAWS is having so many issues with it. That said, it's not 
perfect with nVDA either, and I still like JAWS enough to be bothered about not 
being able to use it with Firefox 57, so like most other screen-reader users (I 
suspect), I'm on the ESR now.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Roger Newell
Sent: December 2, 2017 10:48 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

That is true of all screen readers and is a result of emerging web standards 
being applied in many different ways.

On 12/3/17, Greg Washington <gregw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Thanks for this feedback.  It seems no one browser works best with 
> latest Jaws in all situations.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 8:59 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws
>
> Theoretically, the three major browsers (IE, Firefox and Chrome) are 
> fully compatible with JAWS, and now JAWS 2018 and 18 with latest 
> updates are starting to provide Edje support. That last support is 
> currently very unstable.
> Personally, despite the Firefox Quantum disaster that I hope Mozilla 
> will fix soon, I find that the browser which offers, in conjunction, 
> the best navigation experience with JAWS is Firefox. Chrome would be 
> the second, but there are important Chrome issues handling edit boxes, 
> especially on ritch text edit controls. The advantage of using IE is 
> that it is the core used by JAWS support for virtual documents, so 
> text selection and copying with Virtual PC cursor work better than in other 
> browsers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Greg Washington
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:42 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws
>
> I am a long time user of Internet Explorer and am currently using the 
> latest version of IE with latest Windows 10.  However it seems a number of 
> websites
> I frequent are no longer fully accessible with IE.   Can you recommend what
> browsers are now fully compatible with Jaws 2018?  I have tried Google 
> Chrome but am having difficulties using it.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Greg W
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

2017-12-02 Thread Roger Newell
That is true of all screen readers and is a result of emerging web
standards being applied in many different ways.

On 12/3/17, Greg Washington <gregw...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Thanks for this feedback.  It seems no one browser works best with latest
> Jaws in all situations.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 8:59 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws
>
> Theoretically, the three major browsers (IE, Firefox and Chrome) are fully
> compatible with JAWS, and now JAWS 2018 and 18 with latest updates are
> starting to provide Edje support. That last support is currently very
> unstable.
> Personally, despite the Firefox Quantum disaster that I hope Mozilla will
> fix soon, I find that the browser which offers, in conjunction, the best
> navigation experience with JAWS is Firefox. Chrome would be the second, but
> there are important Chrome issues handling edit boxes, especially on ritch
> text edit controls. The advantage of using IE is that it is the core used by
> JAWS support for virtual documents, so text selection and copying with
> Virtual PC cursor work better than in other browsers.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Greg Washington
> Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:42 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws
>
> I am a long time user of Internet Explorer and am currently using the latest
> version of IE with latest Windows 10.  However it seems a number of websites
> I frequent are no longer fully accessible with IE.   Can you recommend what
> browsers are now fully compatible with Jaws 2018?  I have tried Google
> Chrome but am having difficulties using it.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> Greg W
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

2017-12-02 Thread Holger Fiallo

I like current IE

-Original Message- 
From: Samuel White

Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 9:11 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

Greg,
Dave Moore submitted a tutorial on how to use Crome.
He may be able to resubmit that tutorial.  If not I have a copy of it and 
will find it and submit it if he does not.  I just do not what to step on 
any bodys feet.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Washington

Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 9:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

Thanks for this feedback.  It seems no one browser works best with latest 
Jaws in all situations.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Fernando Gregoire

Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 8:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

Theoretically, the three major browsers (IE, Firefox and Chrome) are fully 
compatible with JAWS, and now JAWS 2018 and 18 with latest updates are 
starting to provide Edje support. That last support is currently very 
unstable.
Personally, despite the Firefox Quantum disaster that I hope Mozilla will 
fix soon, I find that the browser which offers, in conjunction, the best 
navigation experience with JAWS is Firefox. Chrome would be the second, but 
there are important Chrome issues handling edit boxes, especially on ritch 
text edit controls. The advantage of using IE is that it is the core used by 
JAWS support for virtual documents, so text selection and copying with 
Virtual PC cursor work better than in other browsers.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Greg Washington

Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

I am a long time user of Internet Explorer and am currently using the latest 
version of IE with latest Windows 10.  However it seems a number of websites

I frequent are no longer fully accessible with IE.   Can you recommend what
browsers are now fully compatible with Jaws 2018?  I have tried Google 
Chrome but am having difficulties using it.


Thanks for any help.

Greg W

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

2017-12-02 Thread Greg Washington
Thanks.  I'm thinking seriously about making Chrome my default browser.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Samuel White
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 9:12 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

Greg,
Dave Moore submitted a tutorial on how to use Crome.
He may be able to resubmit that tutorial.  If not I have a copy of it and will 
find it and submit it if he does not.  I just do not what to step on any bodys 
feet.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Washington
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 9:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

Thanks for this feedback.  It seems no one browser works best with latest Jaws 
in all situations.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 8:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

Theoretically, the three major browsers (IE, Firefox and Chrome) are fully 
compatible with JAWS, and now JAWS 2018 and 18 with latest updates are starting 
to provide Edje support. That last support is currently very unstable.
Personally, despite the Firefox Quantum disaster that I hope Mozilla will fix 
soon, I find that the browser which offers, in conjunction, the best navigation 
experience with JAWS is Firefox. Chrome would be the second, but there are 
important Chrome issues handling edit boxes, especially on ritch text edit 
controls. The advantage of using IE is that it is the core used by JAWS support 
for virtual documents, so text selection and copying with Virtual PC cursor 
work better than in other browsers.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Washington
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

I am a long time user of Internet Explorer and am currently using the latest 
version of IE with latest Windows 10.  However it seems a number of websites
I frequent are no longer fully accessible with IE.   Can you recommend what
browsers are now fully compatible with Jaws 2018?  I have tried Google Chrome 
but am having difficulties using it.

Thanks for any help.

Greg W

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

2017-12-02 Thread Samuel White
Greg,
Dave Moore submitted a tutorial on how to use Crome.
He may be able to resubmit that tutorial.  If not I have a copy of it and will 
find it and submit it if he does not.  I just do not what to step on any bodys 
feet.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Washington
Sent: Saturday, December 02, 2017 9:02 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

Thanks for this feedback.  It seems no one browser works best with latest Jaws 
in all situations.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 8:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

Theoretically, the three major browsers (IE, Firefox and Chrome) are fully 
compatible with JAWS, and now JAWS 2018 and 18 with latest updates are starting 
to provide Edje support. That last support is currently very unstable.
Personally, despite the Firefox Quantum disaster that I hope Mozilla will fix 
soon, I find that the browser which offers, in conjunction, the best navigation 
experience with JAWS is Firefox. Chrome would be the second, but there are 
important Chrome issues handling edit boxes, especially on ritch text edit 
controls. The advantage of using IE is that it is the core used by JAWS support 
for virtual documents, so text selection and copying with Virtual PC cursor 
work better than in other browsers.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Washington
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

I am a long time user of Internet Explorer and am currently using the latest 
version of IE with latest Windows 10.  However it seems a number of websites
I frequent are no longer fully accessible with IE.   Can you recommend what
browsers are now fully compatible with Jaws 2018?  I have tried Google Chrome 
but am having difficulties using it.

Thanks for any help.

Greg W

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

2017-12-02 Thread Greg Washington
Thanks for this feedback.  It seems no one browser works best with latest Jaws 
in all situations.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Fernando Gregoire
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 8:59 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

Theoretically, the three major browsers (IE, Firefox and Chrome) are fully 
compatible with JAWS, and now JAWS 2018 and 18 with latest updates are starting 
to provide Edje support. That last support is currently very unstable.
Personally, despite the Firefox Quantum disaster that I hope Mozilla will fix 
soon, I find that the browser which offers, in conjunction, the best navigation 
experience with JAWS is Firefox. Chrome would be the second, but there are 
important Chrome issues handling edit boxes, especially on ritch text edit 
controls. The advantage of using IE is that it is the core used by JAWS support 
for virtual documents, so text selection and copying with Virtual PC cursor 
work better than in other browsers.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Washington
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

I am a long time user of Internet Explorer and am currently using the latest 
version of IE with latest Windows 10.  However it seems a number of websites
I frequent are no longer fully accessible with IE.   Can you recommend what
browsers are now fully compatible with Jaws 2018?  I have tried Google Chrome 
but am having difficulties using it.

Thanks for any help.

Greg W

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

2017-12-02 Thread Fernando Gregoire
Theoretically, the three major browsers (IE, Firefox and Chrome) are fully 
compatible with JAWS, and now JAWS 2018 and 18 with latest updates are starting 
to provide Edje support. That last support is currently very unstable.
Personally, despite the Firefox Quantum disaster that I hope Mozilla will fix 
soon, I find that the browser which offers, in conjunction, the best navigation 
experience with JAWS is Firefox. Chrome would be the second, but there are 
important Chrome issues handling edit boxes, especially on ritch text edit 
controls. The advantage of using IE is that it is the core used by JAWS support 
for virtual documents, so text selection and copying with Virtual PC cursor 
work better than in other browsers.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Washington
Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 10:42 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

I am a long time user of Internet Explorer and am currently using the latest 
version of IE with latest Windows 10.  However it seems a number of websites
I frequent are no longer fully accessible with IE.   Can you recommend what
browsers are now fully compatible with Jaws 2018?  I have tried Google Chrome 
but am having difficulties using it.

Thanks for any help.

Greg W

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[JAWS-Users] Best browser to use with Jaws

2017-12-02 Thread Greg Washington
I am a long time user of Internet Explorer and am currently using the latest
version of IE with latest Windows 10.  However it seems a number of websites
I frequent are no longer fully accessible with IE.   Can you recommend what
browsers are now fully compatible with Jaws 2018?  I have tried Google
Chrome but am having difficulties using it.

Thanks for any help.

Greg W

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