[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list.
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences, 
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make 
another
message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the bandwidth 
required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a person who
wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous messages, as they 
have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also please place your 
message
above your signature line so as not to force people to read it before they 
get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not 
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 700 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right.

Posting to a single address IE this list is the preferred acceptable 
practice as we do not allow cross posting. That is simply posting to more 
than one
list or address in the same message. You can post the same message to 
multiple list, but not at the same time.

Now to the matter of replying to a posted message:

The proper practice is to simply hit the reply command in your respective 
email client, IE control + R is used quite often in many programs. Replying 
to
all, for example control + shift + R in Windows Live Mail will only serve to 
get your message flagged by the server for having too many recipients.

Then at that point your message gets held for one of us to accept or 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

Re: [JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[David Ferrin]

It happens more often than you know. I had a lot more hair when we started 
this monster.


-Original Message- 
From: Karim Lakhani

Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2017 7:58 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

I'm stun that these people know how to join a list but not able
to remove themselves!
I give full marks for  the list manager!




EMAIL: karim.lakh...@shaw.ca

Nothing has ever happened in the past that can prevent you
from being present now; and if the past cannot prevent you
from being present now, what power does it have?

- [Ulrich Leonard] Eckhart Tolle (1948-)


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Amigos Welfare Trust
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 5:51 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

Dear Moderator, we would like you to unsubscribe us from this
mail service

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Moderator
<modera...@jaws-users.com> wrote:


Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been

created

for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for

Windows

screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as

asking about

what software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them

work

even better with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth.

Another

example could be requesting information on how to do something

in

Microsoft Word, which as we all know works very well with JAWS,

but

you need to know how to do a certain task or want to learn a

way to

accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the

list for

exact instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a

major

reason. It creates a dependency situation even if you don't

realize it

does. The ideal place I am hoping the list will arrive at some

day is

that everybody no matter how new they might happen to be with

JAWS or

computers will have the confidence to try things on their own,

and yet

feel if they get stuck the list will be there to help put them

back on

track. Trust me when I say that help is quicker to arrive for

somebody

who is well known to ask for it last than first. So try it

yourself

first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list know

what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.

Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post

asking

if there is a software package that does a specific task and

works

well with JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be

polite

and Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting,

and no

bashing of Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a

problem

with them then take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as

possible.


Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of
sentences, three or four at the most. If you wish to include a

tag

line, don't make another message of it. Placing anything else

in there

simply increases the bandwidth required to handle the posted

message

and make it more work for a person who wishes to follow the

given

thread back to review previous messages, as they have to plow

down

past an overly long signature. Also please place your message

above

your signature line so as not to force people to read it before

they get to your message.


Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS

should

not be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator

approval.


Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list.

This

is done for your protection. The message list might state that

there

is an attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be
descriptive in the subject line as to the purpose of the

message. Many

of us simply delete messages from people we don't know. At the

present

time there are over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't

possibly

know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the



guidelines, then post it accordingly. Don't contact the

management

team with questions that are more appropriate for the list

itself.

Your question may or may not receive an answer for a number of

reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content

contained in

the footer message that accompanies every message posted to the

list.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email

address

and you may receive an email from the server asking you to

reactivate your account.

Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and

follow

the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after
receiving a number of such messages then the server will remove

your

email address automatically.

The disc

Re: [JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Karim Lakhani]

I'm stun that these people know how to join a list but not able
to remove themselves!
I give full marks for  the list manager!
 


 
EMAIL: karim.lakh...@shaw.ca

Nothing has ever happened in the past that can prevent you
from being present now; and if the past cannot prevent you
from being present now, what power does it have?

- [Ulrich Leonard] Eckhart Tolle (1948-)


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List
[mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of
Amigos Welfare Trust
Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2017 5:51 AM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

Dear Moderator, we would like you to unsubscribe us from this
mail service

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Moderator
<modera...@jaws-users.com> wrote:

> Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been
created 
> for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for
Windows 
> screen reader Program.
>
> So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as
asking about 
> what software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them
work 
> even better with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth.
Another 
> example could be requesting information on how to do something
in 
> Microsoft Word, which as we all know works very well with JAWS,
but 
> you need to know how to do a certain task or want to learn a
way to 
> accomplish it more efficiently.
>
> Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the
list for 
> exact instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a
major 
> reason. It creates a dependency situation even if you don't
realize it 
> does. The ideal place I am hoping the list will arrive at some
day is 
> that everybody no matter how new they might happen to be with
JAWS or 
> computers will have the confidence to try things on their own,
and yet 
> feel if they get stuck the list will be there to help put them
back on 
> track. Trust me when I say that help is quicker to arrive for
somebody 
> who is well known to ask for it last than first. So try it
yourself 
> first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list know
what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
> Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post
asking 
> if there is a software package that does a specific task and
works 
> well with JAWS is perfectly fine.
>
> The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be
polite 
> and Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting,
and no 
> bashing of Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a
problem 
> with them then take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.
>
> Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as
possible.
>
> Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of 
> sentences, three or four at the most. If you wish to include a
tag 
> line, don't make another message of it. Placing anything else
in there 
> simply increases the bandwidth required to handle the posted
message 
> and make it more work for a person who wishes to follow the
given 
> thread back to review previous messages, as they have to plow
down 
> past an overly long signature. Also please place your message
above 
> your signature line so as not to force people to read it before
they get to your message.
>
> Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS
should 
> not be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator
approval.
>
> Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list.
This 
> is done for your protection. The message list might state that
there 
> is an attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.
>
> When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be 
> descriptive in the subject line as to the purpose of the
message. Many 
> of us simply delete messages from people we don't know. At the
present 
> time there are over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't
possibly 
> know everybody on here.
>
> Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the

> guidelines, then post it accordingly. Don't contact the
management 
> team with questions that are more appropriate for the list
itself. 
> Your question may or may not receive an answer for a number of
reasons.
>
> Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content
contained in 
> the footer message that accompanies every message posted to the
list.
>
> Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email
address 
> and you may receive an email from the server asking you to
reactivate your account.
> Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and
follow 
> the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
> receiving a number of such messages then the server will remove
your 
> email address automatical

Re: [JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Amigos Welfare Trust]

Dear Moderator, we would like you to unsubscribe us from this mail service

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 5:46 PM, Moderator  wrote:

> Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for
> The
> purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
> Program.
>
> So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
> software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
> with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
> requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as
> we
> all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a
> certain
> task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.
>
> Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
> instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
> creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
> place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
> matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
> confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
> list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
> help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
> than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
> let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
> Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
> there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
> JAWS is perfectly fine.
>
> The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
> Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing
> of
> Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then
> take
> it up with Freedom Scientific directly.
>
> Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.
>
> Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
> three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
> another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
> bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
> person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
> messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
> please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
> people to read it before they get to your message.
>
> Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
> be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.
>
> Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is
> done
> for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
> attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.
>
> When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
> in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
> delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
> over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
> here.
>
> Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
> then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
> that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
> receive an answer for a number of reasons.
>
> Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
> footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.
>
> Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
> may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
> Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
> directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
> number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
> automatically.
>
> The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
> flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
> swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
> services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
> subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
> subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted,
> and
> members should only post in the following manner:
>
> Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
> in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field
> often
> times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
> cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
> fact is such a post might not be 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal
place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no
matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the
confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the
list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that
help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last
than first. So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then
let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take
it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible.

Signatures and tag lines should not be more than a couple of sentences,
three or four at the most. If you wish to include a tag line, don't make
another message of it. Placing anything else in there simply increases the
bandwidth required to handle the posted message and make it more work for a
person who wishes to follow the given thread back to review previous
messages, as they have to plow down past an overly long signature. Also
please place your message above your signature line so as not to force
people to read it before they get to your message.

Also any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not
be posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This
practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that 
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also 
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the 
fact
is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This practice 
does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any 
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know the 
answer. All that does is create more traffic on an already very busy list 
for
no reason at all.

Lastly please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to 
help dying kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you want to make an announcement
about 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that 
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also 
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the 
fact
is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This practice 
does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any 
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know the 
answer. All that does is create more traffic on an already very busy list 
for
no reason at all.

Lastly please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to 
help dying kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you want to make an announcement
about 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that 
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also 
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the 
fact
is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This practice 
does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any 
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know the 
answer. All that does is create more traffic on an already very busy list 
for
no reason at all.

Lastly please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to 
help dying kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you want to make an announcement
about 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that 
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also 
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the 
fact
is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This practice 
does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any 
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know the 
answer. All that does is create more traffic on an already very busy list 
for
no reason at all.

Lastly please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to 
help dying kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you want to make an announcement
about 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that 
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also 
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the 
fact
is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This practice 
does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any 
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know the 
answer. All that does is create more traffic on an already very busy list 
for
no reason at all.

Lastly please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to 
help dying kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you want to make an announcement
about 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that 
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also 
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the 
fact
is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This practice 
does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any 
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know the 
answer. All that does is create more traffic on an already very busy list 
for
no reason at all.

Lastly please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to 
help dying kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you want to make an announcement
about 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact
is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This practice
does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know the
answer. All that does is create more traffic on an already very busy list
for
no reason at all.

Lastly please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to
help dying kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you want to make an announcement
about another list send it to the list owner for 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that 
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also 
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the 
fact
is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This practice 
does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any 
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know the 
answer. All that does is create more traffic on an already very busy list 
for
no reason at all.

Lastly please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to 
help dying kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you want to make an announcement
about 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up 
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the 
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a 
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address 
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that 
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also 
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the 
fact
is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This practice 
does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any 
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know the 
answer. All that does is create more traffic on an already very busy list 
for
no reason at all.

Lastly please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to 
help dying kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you want to make an announcement
about 

Re: [JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Kevin Hourigan]

Hello,
I unsubscribed yesterday, received a confirmation letter, but am still 
receiving letters. Please affect my removal from the list, thank you.

Cheers Kevin.

-Original Message- 
From: Moderator

Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 4:59 AM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then take it up
with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the server asking you to reactivate your account.
Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and follow the
directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after receiving a
number
of such messages then the server will remove your email address
automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The reason for this is that
in cases where people setup their message rules to go by the to: field often
times such rules get fouled up and in effect do not work properly. Also
cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at the same time but the
fact
is such a post might not be on topic for each and every list. This practice
does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators.

The SUBJECT: field should be short and to the point without including any
member names.

Please do not reply to a posted question simply to say you don't know the
answer. All that does is create more traffic on an already very busy list
for
no reason at all.

Lastly please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to
help dying kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list!
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know works very well with JAWS,
 but you need to know how to do a certain task or want to learn a way to 
accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does.
 The ideal place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that 
everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email 
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner 
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to 

Re: [JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[David Ferrin]

Just an amendment that I haven't placed in the official guidelines as of
yet, but given recent events it seems appropriate.

There is no need to reply to a post asking any question with a response of I
don't know, (AKA) IDK.

The fact is such posts simply create more traffic on a very high volume list
that does not need any help in that area.



David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Moderator
Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2015 8:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list!
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know works very well with JAWS,  but you need to know how to do a
certain task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does.
 The ideal place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that
everybody no matter how new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers
will have the confidence to try things on their own, and yet feel if they
get stuck the list will be there to help put them back on track. Trust me
when I say that help is quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to
ask for it last than first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is
perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I
suggest you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be
posted to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are
over 650 subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on
here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after
receiving a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove
your email address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or
services will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given
subject is off topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the
subject line does not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and
members should only post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list!
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know works very well with JAWS,
 but you need to know how to do a certain task or want to learn a way to 
accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does.
 The ideal place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that 
everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email 
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner 
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list!
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know works very well with JAWS,
 but you need to know how to do a certain task or want to learn a way to 
accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does.
 The ideal place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that 
everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email 
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner 
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list!
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know works very well with JAWS,
 but you need to know how to do a certain task or want to learn a way to 
accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does.
 The ideal place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that 
everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email 
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner 
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to 

[JAWS-Users] List guidelines Reminder

[Richard Justice]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list!
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know works very well with JAWS,
 but you need to know how to do a certain task or want to learn a way to 
accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does.
 The ideal place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that 
everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email 
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner 
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all
know works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain 
task or want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email 
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner 
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to be 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list!
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know works very well with JAWS,
 but you need to know how to do a certain task or want to learn a way to 
accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does.
 The ideal place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that 
everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email 
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner 
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list!
This list has been created for The purpose of discussing all aspects of the 
JAWS for Windows screen reader Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know works very well with JAWS,
 but you need to know how to do a certain task or want to learn a way to 
accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does.
 The ideal place I am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that 
everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email 
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner 
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email 
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner 
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to be 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email 
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner 
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to be 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first whatever it is. If you get stuck then let the list 
know what you've done to try and resolve your current dilemma. Then I'm sure
help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if there is a 
software package that does a specific task and works well with JAWS is 
perfectly
fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any newsletters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 650 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then the Mailman program will remove your email 
address automatically.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. This is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the to: field often times such rules get fouled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

Nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about another list send it to the list owner 
for consideration. Do not post it to the list before obtaining approval.

No auto responders are to be 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines,
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it
will be posted to the list. Additionally if you

want to make an announcement about 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 550 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

Forwarded messages and attachments are not permitted. If you have an article 
or message of interest which relates to the

nature of this list send it to the list owner and if it is appropriate, it 
will be posted to the list. 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope is that this 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope is that this 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope is that this 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope is that this 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope is that this 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.

So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.

Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS
is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.

Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted
to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment
but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.

Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.

Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.

Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.

The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only
post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.

The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and
every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying
kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope is that this 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

It appears that some folks are not familiar with the guidelines,
even though I just posted them 6 days ago.
So, for your convenience and required reading, here they are again.
Please read them carefully, repeat offenders will be removed from the list
without further notice.

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope 

[JAWS-Users] List guidelines reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope 

[JAWS-Users] List Guidelines Reminder

[Moderator]

Hello and welcome to the JAWS Users list. This list has been created for The 
purpose of discussing all aspects of the JAWS for Windows screen reader 
Program.


So everything that pertains to JAWS is fair game. Such as asking about what 
software packages work well with JAWS or how to make them work even better 
with
scripts, keyboard short cuts and so forth. Another example could be 
requesting information on how to do something in Microsoft Word, which as we 
all know
works very well with JAWS, but you need to know how to do a certain task or 
want to learn a way to accomplish it more efficiently.


Now this is a very important point in my opinion, asking the list for exact 
instructions every time is not a good thing to do for a major reason. It 
creates
a dependency situation even if you don't realize it does. The ideal place I 
am hoping the list will arrive at some day is that everybody no matter how
new they might happen to be with JAWS or computers will have the confidence 
to try things on their own, and yet feel if they get stuck the list will be
there to help put them back on track. Trust me when I say that help is 
quicker to arrive for somebody who is well known to ask for it last than 
first.
So try it yourself first what ever it might happen to be. If you get stuck 
then let the list know what you've done to try and resolve your current 
dilemma.
Then I'm sure help will arrive with in short order. Next a post asking if 
there is a software package that does a specific task and works well with 
JAWS

is perfectly fine.

The rules of conduct are quite simple and straightforward. Be polite and 
Patient with others. There will be absolutely no fighting, and no bashing of 
Freedom
Scientific on here at all. If you have a problem with them then I suggest 
you take it up with Freedom Scientific directly.


Please try to keep subject lines relevant and descriptive as possible. Also 
any news letters except those that directly pertain to JAWS should not be 
posted

to the list prior to receiving moderator approval.

Attachments are removed before any message is sent to the list. This is done 
for your protection. The message list might state that there is an 
attachment

but in fact Mailman does remove them.

When contacting any of the list moderators privately please be descriptive 
in the subject line as to the purpose of the message. Many of us simply 
delete
messages from people we don't know. At the present time there are over 450 
subscribers to this list, so we can't possibly know everybody on here.


Also, if you have a question for the list that falls within the guidelines, 
then post it accordingly. Don't contact the management team with questions 
that
are more appropriate for the list itself. Your question may or may not 
receive an answer for a number of reasons.


Everybody should familiarize themselves with the content contained in the 
footer message that accompanies every message posted to the list. There you 
will
find the group web address along with some other relevant information 
pertaining to contacting the management team ETC.


Occasionally there might be some difficulty with your email address and you 
may receive an email from the Mailman program asking you to reactivate your
account. Please do not simply delete this message. Instead open it and 
follow the directions to reactivate your account. If you do not after 
receiving
a number of such messages then we will figure that you no longer wish to be 
a member of the list and remove your email address.


The discussion of anything illegal is absolutely forbidden, along with 
flirting or other such inappropriate activities. this is not a high tech 
swap shop
or anything of that nature at all. This means that goods and or services 
will not be bought or sold using this forum. If you know a given subject is 
off
topic then don't post it. Simply placing off topic in the subject line does 
not make it all right. Cross-posting is not permitted, and members should 
only

post in the following manner:

Using the TO: field with only one list address. The SUBJECT: field should be 
short and to the point without including any member names.


The reason for this is that in cases where people setup their message rules 
to go by the To: field often times such rules get fowled up and in effect do
not work properly. Also cross posting might allow you to reach many lists at 
the same time but the fact is such a post might not be on topic for each and

every list. This practice does nothing but clutter up such lists with
unwanted off topic messages along with annoying the list moderators. Lastly 
please no jokes, virus warnings, recipes, safety tips, or pleas to help 
dying

kids, should ever be forwarded to the list.

No auto responders are to be used on this list! Those who use auto
responders for vacations and so forth must make sure that this list is not
included. Any person who sends an auto response message will be removed!

My hope