Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting to the start or end
Hi Kimsan, thanks for raising the fact that ctrl+shift+home/end works in a list. It made me go back to microsoft's documentation to check it out. The brief answer is that in most cases you can use either shift+home/end or ctrl+shift+home/end. However, there are some minor differences between these two keystrokes: 1. Perhaps the most important difference is for shift+home, or end or up/down arrows, whether or not the initial item is selected has no effect on the outcome. For example if the first item in a list is the focus, then whether or not this item is selected, if you press shift+end, then this selects all the items in the list. If the first item is unselected and you press ctrl+shift+end, then the focus moves to the last item, but the selection of no items are changed. 2. If you're someway down the list then after pressing shift+end, the items to the end of the list are selected, and the remaining items are unselected, even if they where selected before pressing shift+end. This isn't the case when pressing ctrl+shift+end. (but see the link below - you need to know where the anchor is to work out exactly what will happen). The source of most of my information on this issue is: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms971323.aspx#atg_keyboardshortcuts_anchoring_and_exte David. original message: I've done CTRL shift home in a list and it works. I'm not responding to be argumentative, which you were spot-on with your response btws. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting to the start or end
Hi, just to add that there is in fact a third difference, which I probably didn't make clear: 3. If the initial item is unselected, then if there are any selected items between that item and the end of the list and you press ctrl+shift+end, then the focus moves to the end of the list, and those items are deselected. (Shift+end selects from the item to the end of the list.) David. original message: Hi Kimsan, thanks for raising the fact that ctrl+shift+home/end works in a list. It made me go back to microsoft's documentation to check it out. The brief answer is that in most cases you can use either shift+home/end or ctrl+shift+home/end. However, there are some minor differences between these two keystrokes: 1. Perhaps the most important difference is for shift+home, or end or up/down arrows, whether or not the initial item is selected has no effect on the outcome. For example if the first item in a list is the focus, then whether or not this item is selected, if you press shift+end, then this selects all the items in the list. If the first item is unselected and you press ctrl+shift+end, then the focus moves to the last item, but the selection of no items are changed. 2. If you're someway down the list then after pressing shift+end, the items to the end of the list are selected, and the remaining items are unselected, even if they where selected before pressing shift+end. This isn't the case when pressing ctrl+shift+end. (but see the link below - you need to know where the anchor is to work out exactly what will happen). The source of most of my information on this issue is: http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms971323.aspx#atg_keyboardshortcuts_anchoring_and_exte David. original message: I've done CTRL shift home in a list and it works. I'm not responding to be argumentative, which you were spot-on with your response btws. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] Selecting to the start or end
I think there is confusion between the two cases of lists and documents. In the case of a list, where multiple items can be selected, to select from the current item to the start of the list, press shift+home. Similarly to select from the current item to the end, press shift+end. In the case of a document: 1. to select from the start of the document up to, but not including the current character, press ctrl+shift+home. 2. to select from the start of the line up to, but not including the current character, press shift+home. 3. to select from the current character to the end of the document, press ctrl+shift+end. 4. to select from the current character to the end of the line, press shift+end. David. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting to the start or end
I've done CTRL shift home in a list and it works. I'm not responding to be argumentative, which you were spot-on with your response btws. Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure, loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Bailes Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 4:58 AM To: jaws users Subject: [JAWS-Users] Selecting to the start or end I think there is confusion between the two cases of lists and documents. In the case of a list, where multiple items can be selected, to select from the current item to the start of the list, press shift+home. Similarly to select from the current item to the end, press shift+end. In the case of a document: 1. to select from the start of the document up to, but not including the current character, press ctrl+shift+home. 2. to select from the start of the line up to, but not including the current character, press shift+home. 3. to select from the current character to the end of the document, press ctrl+shift+end. 4. to select from the current character to the end of the line, press shift+end. David. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
