Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
If memory serves I asked that this thread be put to bed and since senility hasn't set in yet I know this to be true. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: KliphSharrie skhleirpehctcoens7...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 12:44 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac Now that isn't necessarily true. Voice over is great, and I love that it is accessible right out of the box, but it has a little ways to go before it gets where jaws is. Some say this will improve with the release of the Lion OS system coming out for the mac sometime this month. I run windows with vm fusion on my mac, and love the fact that I have both to choose from. Mainly I use Jaws for the office suite, but use voice over for everything else. And most programs that are on the mac, are accessible with voice over. The best part is you never have to pay for an upgrade to voice over, just for the operating system. But again, it's a matter of what you like to do with Jaws, but the 2 are as different as night and day. I used a mac cold turkey for almost a month before I installed windows virtually just so I could get used to it and not jump to windows when I didn't get something or couldn't figure it out. HTH Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians Sent From my Imac -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac Why would anyone run JAWS on a Mac when it already comes with its own screen reader? All I keep hearing is how wonderful Boice Over is, so running JAWS on a Mac wouldn't seem to make any sense. I was under the impression that most Mac users switched because they were unhappy with Windows and JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac You can run Windows on a mac using VMWare or other programs like it and thus run Jaws on it. I think some people on these lists actually do that, so maybe they can give you some input on how the process, performance, etc works. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
hi: I joined this list for jaws info, n ot apple mac info. if you use the mac, then fine but then join a mac list. if you use the mac, then fine but if you still use jaws, thenthere must still be issues with the mac for you to be still using jaws. howard wolcott -- From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac ok, here is some key strokes that will work on any mac to get VoiceOver working. If on a iMac or mac pro, Just do command key + f5 to turn on. If using a bookPro, Just do a fn key + command key + f5. If you do a control + option key +k, turn on keyboard mode like insert +1 for jaws. If you do a control +option + h, turns on help menu for voiceOver commands. Now for some keyboard key location. You can use any keyboard. Starting from left bottom, control key, windows/option key, alt/command key. That should get you up and going to have a look around. At 05:58 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Thanks for the information. I know some folks who use the Mac but haven't tried it. I am visiting the USA (tampa) for the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays and hope to at least have a go at using it. Started with JAWS in 2000 and it has worked for me since then. - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
Obviously my messages are not coming across in English clearly enough so I'll try a last time. Knock it off or people will start being removed, that's it. David Ferrin You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice. - Original Message - From: Howard hwolc...@stny.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac hi: I joined this list for jaws info, n ot apple mac info. if you use the mac, then fine but then join a mac list. if you use the mac, then fine but if you still use jaws, thenthere must still be issues with the mac for you to be still using jaws. howard wolcott -- From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:25 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac ok, here is some key strokes that will work on any mac to get VoiceOver working. If on a iMac or mac pro, Just do command key + f5 to turn on. If using a bookPro, Just do a fn key + command key + f5. If you do a control + option key +k, turn on keyboard mode like insert +1 for jaws. If you do a control +option + h, turns on help menu for voiceOver commands. Now for some keyboard key location. You can use any keyboard. Starting from left bottom, control key, windows/option key, alt/command key. That should get you up and going to have a look around. At 05:58 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Thanks for the information. I know some folks who use the Mac but haven't tried it. I am visiting the USA (tampa) for the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays and hope to at least have a go at using it. Started with JAWS in 2000 and it has worked for me since then. - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
No. - Original Message - From: Francis Khan fek...@tstt.net.tt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 7:59 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
You can run Windows on a mac using VMWare or other programs like it and thus run Jaws on it. I think some people on these lists actually do that, so maybe they can give you some input on how the process, performance, etc works. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
Why would anyone run JAWS on a Mac when it already comes with its own screen reader? All I keep hearing is how wonderful Boice Over is, so running JAWS on a Mac wouldn't seem to make any sense. I was under the impression that most Mac users switched because they were unhappy with Windows and JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac You can run Windows on a mac using VMWare or other programs like it and thus run Jaws on it. I think some people on these lists actually do that, so maybe they can give you some input on how the process, performance, etc works. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
Thanks for the information. I know some folks who use the Mac but haven't tried it. I am visiting the USA (tampa) for the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays and hope to at least have a go at using it. Started with JAWS in 2000 and it has worked for me since then. - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
I was asking these questions for a friend and since I goofed by asking them I hereby quit. - Original Message - From: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac Why would anyone run JAWS on a Mac when it already comes with its own screen reader? All I keep hearing is how wonderful Boice Over is, so running JAWS on a Mac wouldn't seem to make any sense. I was under the impression that most Mac users switched because they were unhappy with Windows and JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac You can run Windows on a mac using VMWare or other programs like it and thus run Jaws on it. I think some people on these lists actually do that, so maybe they can give you some input on how the process, performance, etc works. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
No they do not, hence forth the name JAWS for Windows. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: Francis Khan fek...@tstt.net.tt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:59 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
hi. Mac do not need any Jaws or any third party screen reader. because it's already have Voice over. and it is a very good screen reader in it. Ming msn/window live messenger chung_chiming_2...@hotmail.com skype: chungchiming9950 blog/ xanga http://www.xanga.com/chungchiming --- 2011年7月20日 星期三，Francis Khan fek...@tstt.net.tt 寫道﹕ 寄件人: Francis Khan fek...@tstt.net.tt 主題: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac 收件人: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com 日期: 2011年7月20日,星期三,上午2:59 Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
haha oh this is a good one ...hahah In a touch I find a world with you I never knew. There are so many things I find i never found before. In my heart I gaze into your eyes and it touches me in ways I now come to realize. -An Fear as Kilshanny She brings me Good things. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No they do not, hence forth the name JAWS for Windows. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: Francis Khan fek...@tstt.net.tt To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 2:59 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6308 (20110719) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6308 (20110719) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
I switched most stuff over to my mac, because you don't have to set the op different. VoiceOver will run no matter how you have the op configured. Being built into the op lets it recover from speech crash just by turning it off and back on. no rebooting! Also here is the big plus. When the op is upgraded so is VoiceOver. So you get op and screen reader for around $30 a lot cheaper for something that works. At 05:13 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Why would anyone run JAWS on a Mac when it already comes with its own screen reader? All I keep hearing is how wonderful Boice Over is, so running JAWS on a Mac wouldn't seem to make any sense. I was under the impression that most Mac users switched because they were unhappy with Windows and JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac You can run Windows on a mac using VMWare or other programs like it and thus run Jaws on it. I think some people on these lists actually do that, so maybe they can give you some input on how the process, performance, etc works. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
Ok, Lets end this thread as it has drifted off topic. Thanks, Bob - Original Message - From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac I switched most stuff over to my mac, because you don't have to set the op different. VoiceOver will run no matter how you have the op configured. Being built into the op lets it recover from speech crash just by turning it off and back on. no rebooting! Also here is the big plus. When the op is upgraded so is VoiceOver. So you get op and screen reader for around $30 a lot cheaper for something that works. At 05:13 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Why would anyone run JAWS on a Mac when it already comes with its own screen reader? All I keep hearing is how wonderful Boice Over is, so running JAWS on a Mac wouldn't seem to make any sense. I was under the impression that most Mac users switched because they were unhappy with Windows and JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac You can run Windows on a mac using VMWare or other programs like it and thus run Jaws on it. I think some people on these lists actually do that, so maybe they can give you some input on how the process, performance, etc works. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
ok, here is some key strokes that will work on any mac to get VoiceOver working. If on a iMac or mac pro, Just do command key + f5 to turn on. If using a bookPro, Just do a fn key + command key + f5. If you do a control + option key +k, turn on keyboard mode like insert +1 for jaws. If you do a control +option + h, turns on help menu for voiceOver commands. Now for some keyboard key location. You can use any keyboard. Starting from left bottom, control key, windows/option key, alt/command key. That should get you up and going to have a look around. At 05:58 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Thanks for the information. I know some folks who use the Mac but haven't tried it. I am visiting the USA (tampa) for the Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays and hope to at least have a go at using it. Started with JAWS in 2000 and it has worked for me since then. - Original Message - From: Doris and Chris chipmu...@gmx.net To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:46 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
OK put this thread to bed. I know it will still be going on when I get up in the morning and if it is then I'll have to go up to the database before breakfast. A word to the wise. David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com I believe that tomorrow is another day, and I'll probably screw that one up too. - Original Message - From: Trouble troub...@columbus.rr.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac I switched most stuff over to my mac, because you don't have to set the op different. VoiceOver will run no matter how you have the op configured. Being built into the op lets it recover from speech crash just by turning it off and back on. no rebooting! Also here is the big plus. When the op is upgraded so is VoiceOver. So you get op and screen reader for around $30 a lot cheaper for something that works. At 05:13 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Why would anyone run JAWS on a Mac when it already comes with its own screen reader? All I keep hearing is how wonderful Boice Over is, so running JAWS on a Mac wouldn't seem to make any sense. I was under the impression that most Mac users switched because they were unhappy with Windows and JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac You can run Windows on a mac using VMWare or other programs like it and thus run Jaws on it. I think some people on these lists actually do that, so maybe they can give you some input on how the process, performance, etc works. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac
Now that isn't necessarily true. Voice over is great, and I love that it is accessible right out of the box, but it has a little ways to go before it gets where jaws is. Some say this will improve with the release of the Lion OS system coming out for the mac sometime this month. I run windows with vm fusion on my mac, and love the fact that I have both to choose from. Mainly I use Jaws for the office suite, but use voice over for everything else. And most programs that are on the mac, are accessible with voice over. The best part is you never have to pay for an upgrade to voice over, just for the operating system. But again, it's a matter of what you like to do with Jaws, but the 2 are as different as night and day. I used a mac cold turkey for almost a month before I installed windows virtually just so I could get used to it and not jump to windows when I didn't get something or couldn't figure it out. HTH Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com (Marriage group) http://groups.google.com/group/committed-married-christians Sent From my Imac -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 4:13 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac Why would anyone run JAWS on a Mac when it already comes with its own screen reader? All I keep hearing is how wonderful Boice Over is, so running JAWS on a Mac wouldn't seem to make any sense. I was under the impression that most Mac users switched because they were unhappy with Windows and JAWS. Gerald - Original Message - From: CrisMunoz54 crismuno...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 5:04 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac You can run Windows on a mac using VMWare or other programs like it and thus run Jaws on it. I think some people on these lists actually do that, so maybe they can give you some input on how the process, performance, etc works. -Original Message- From: jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Doris and Chris Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 1:47 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] The JAWS program for the Mac No. The bad news is that there is no jaws for mac. The good news is that any recent version of the mac operating system already comes with the screenreader for mac tied into the operating system. This native Mac Screenreader is Called Voiceover and has becomeq quite good. Google for Voiceover and you should find plenty of information for you and your colleague. Also, I am sure that there is a voiceover email support group out there but I do not know subscriptioninformation. Again I refer you to our friend Google. hth Doris At 02:59 PM 7/19/2011, you wrote: Please do not crucify me via cyberspace but a colleague called me a couple of minutes to ask whether Freedom Scientific has a JFW program that will work on the Mac. Hope to hear from you soon. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
