Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
Hi Lenny i have a HP notebook with full keyboard. Wen i first got my Hp the FN key was on by default in the bios. So wen its on you have to press the FN key at the same time as alt f4. I actually got my bios changed so i do not have to do this. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2017 1:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless. -Original Message- From: michaels mail Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the left control key. Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
No problem, I had my shoes & socks off at the time, so that helped immensely! LOL LOL Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: David Ferrin To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Guess it is a good thing I didn't get too fancy with my calculations, thanks Mike. -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Because that's the number of seconds in 1 hour. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Kimsan To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Why 3600. I'm confused there. Respectfully, Kimsan Song kimsans...@icloud.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system: shutdown -s -f -t 00 shutdown -r -f -t 00 Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away. So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600. Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch because it is assumed at that point. I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine or not. It is just something to make life a little easier. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
Guess it is a good thing I didn't get too fancy with my calculations, thanks Mike. -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 1:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Because that's the number of seconds in 1 hour. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Kimsan To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Why 3600. I'm confused there. Respectfully, Kimsan Song kimsans...@icloud.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system: shutdown -s -f -t 00 shutdown -r -f -t 00 Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away. So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600. Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch because it is assumed at that point. I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine or not. It is just something to make life a little easier. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
-f forces all running programs to shutdown. -t is for the time in seconds as was previously mentioned. Last but not least -s is for shutdown and -r is for reboot. -Original Message- From: Scorpio Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 4:15 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Hi David, What are the switches, what do they stand for? Scorpio -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system: shutdown -s -f -t 00 shutdown -r -f -t 00 Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away. So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600. Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch because it is assumed at that point. I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine or not. It is just something to make life a little easier. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
Hi Lenny, There are a few things that I've experienced that have helped me in a similar situation, especially if your laptop is a fairly new one. First and foremost, you should confirm that the function, or FN key is not active. In other words, are you able to shut down an application using the alt+F4 command, or do you have to press a third key to accomplish this task. If the former, you need do nothing, if the latter, depending on which company your laptop is from, you may be able to switch this function off, either by using the laptop's native software for modifying it's settings, these are usually provided by the brand of your laptop, i.e. Toshiba, HP, Dell, etc. If these tools are not available to you, or you don't have access t the feature, then you must go through the BIOS set up, and make the changes there. I'm sorry, but I cannot provide detailed instructions on how to do this, as it's been a long time since I've seen the BIOS set up screen, but the status of the function keys are clearly labeled, so, if you have sighted assistance, they can explain what's on the screen, and you can go from there. There is a little section of the BIOS screen that houses an explanation of what each item in the list allows you to change, so if the person uses the arrow keys or mouse to single click on any option, the explanation will appear on the right side of the screen. I don't think that's changed in the years I've lost my sight. Second thing you want to examine is if you may have another application open in the background that you may not be aware of. On my friend's laptop, and on my own that I purchased a few years ago, I found that the camera application was taking over the screen, so when ever I had shut down all applications, it turned out that I hadn't even though Jaws reported that I had landed on the desktop, I hadn't, and had landed on the camera application, which was always on top of the OS, thus constantly frustrating my efforts to go to the desktop once my applications were closed. This option can be shut down on two ways, by going to the task manager with control+shift+escape, then, once in the task manager window, control+tab to the services tab, arrow down the list of services until you find the one that deals with the camera, and set it to manual. This may or may not be desirable, especially if you have sighted people who use the camera function for Skype or some other video application. The other way to shut down this feature is to go through the MS Configuration file, which you can get to using the Windows+R command, then typing in, "msconfig", without the quotes, and pressing enter. On the resulting screen, control+tab to the services tab, and the start-up tab, and uncheck any items that have to do with the camera. Again, same caveat as the above for sighted users of the computer. One thing though, if you get to the services tab and you find less than seventy-five items in the list, then you may have the checkbox to hide all Microsoft services checked, so press the spacebar to uncheck it, then shift+tab back to the list and you should now see a large number of items in the list. The third and final thing you may have going on is that you may have the taskbar set to hide until you arrow to it, or you press the start key. Fortunately, this can readily be fixed by pressing windows key+I, then in the search bar, type "taskbar" without the quotes, and press enter. The result should automatically be spoken by Jaws, which is taskbar settings, so press enter to go directly to that option in your settings. When the page loads up, you'll land on the search field, so tab around, and you'll land on taskbar, which is where you want to be. Keep tabbing until you find the above options, and make sure they are unchecked. You'll know they are unchecked if Jaws reads out that they are simple buttons. If they are checked, Jaws will report it as so. Hopefully, any of all of the above will allow you to return to what you're most comfortable with. Good luck. Scorpio For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
Hi David, What are the switches, what do they stand for? Scorpio -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system: shutdown -s -f -t 00 shutdown -r -f -t 00 Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away. So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600. Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch because it is assumed at that point. I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine or not. It is just something to make life a little easier. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
Hello Lenny; If you wish to create a shutdown shortcut, Try the following; 1, desktop, Ctrl+spacebar to unselect any icon, 2, applications key, down arrow enter on, new sub-menu, Now choose shortcut, 3, in the edit box type in, Shutdown -s -t 0 Now tab next, you can give the shortcut a name, example, Shortcut.exe, Now go to finish. Now if you desire, you could create a hotkey for the shortcut. If you wanted to have a shortcut to restart you would use the same steps, instead of zero at the end, use, 01 Hope this helps. Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless. -Original Message- From: michaels mail Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the left control key. Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page Its motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
ah, ok. Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2017, at 10:30 AM, Mike B. wrote: > > Because that's the number of seconds in 1 hour. > Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! > Sent from my iBarstool. > Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the > end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. > - Original Message - > From: Kimsan > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:16 AM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button > > > Why 3600. I'm confused there. > > Respectfully, > Kimsan Song > kimsans...@icloud.com > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of David Ferrin > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button > > The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system: > > shutdown -s -f -t 00 > > shutdown -r -f -t 00 > > Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away. > So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600. > > Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch > because it is assumed at that point. > > I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine > or not. It is just something to make life a little easier. > > -----Original Message- > From: Lenny McHugh > Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM > To: JFW List > Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button > > I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, > latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the > laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the > desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in > the running apps and also on the desktop. > Any help appreciated. > > > --- > > Please visit my web page > > It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor > > There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind > > http://www.LennyMcHugh.com > > International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to > frequently asked questions about this list visit: > VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was > deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. > > > David Ferrin > You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
Because that's the number of seconds in 1 hour. Take care. Mike. Go Dodgers! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: Kimsan To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 10:16 AM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Why 3600. I'm confused there. Respectfully, Kimsan Song kimsans...@icloud.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system: shutdown -s -f -t 00 shutdown -r -f -t 00 Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away. So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600. Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch because it is assumed at that point. I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine or not. It is just something to make life a little easier. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
Why 3600. I'm confused there. Respectfully, Kimsan Song kimsans...@icloud.com -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 3:27 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system: shutdown -s -f -t 00 shutdown -r -f -t 00 Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away. So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600. Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch because it is assumed at that point. I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine or not. It is just something to make life a little easier. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
to shut down my windows 10 laptop I have to press the start menu key then tab twice and come down with the cursor to where it says power, enter on power and then I think I come down once to where it says shut down and enter there. Hopefully that should do the trick for you. It took me ages to find it. Jo -Original Message- From: David Whitehead Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:03 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Hello; Not sure why alt+f4 doesn't work from desktop, you could try, Windows-key+x, Then press the letters, UU Or, you could create a shortcut for shutdown, Shutdown command; shutdown /s /t 0 Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless. -Original Message- From: michaels mail Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the left control key. Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
Hello; Not sure why alt+f4 doesn't work from desktop, you could try, Windows-key+x, Then press the letters, UU Or, you could create a shortcut for shutdown, Shutdown command; shutdown /s /t 0 Statistics are like a bikini. What they reveal is suggestive, but what they conceal is vital. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:25 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless. -Original Message- From: michaels mail Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the left control key. Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page Its motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
I am using a full size keyboard that is wireless. -Original Message- From: michaels mail Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the left control key. Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
I just get an error tone. -Original Message- From: Gerry Ellis Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:34 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Hi, Try hitting alt with X then u then u again. Take care, Gerry Ellis If you don't know where you're going, How will you know when you get there? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of michaels mail Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the left control key. Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
Hi, Try hitting alt with X then u then u again. Take care, Gerry Ellis If you don't know where you're going, How will you know when you get there? -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of michaels mail Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 11:04 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the left control key. Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It's motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
Hi Lenny just press the FN key witch is the function key next to the left control key. Just holdthe FN key down and press the alt f 4 as well. Cheers Michael. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 7:48 PM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
The following commands will shutdown and reboot your system: shutdown -s -f -t 00 shutdown -r -f -t 00 Note: the notation of 00 means the system will perform the task right away. So say you wanted it to shutdown in an hour, then change the number to 3600. Also note, any time more than 00 you do not need to include the -f switch because it is assumed at that point. I always create such icons on any system I work on, no matter if it is mine or not. It is just something to make life a little easier. -Original Message- From: Lenny McHugh Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 5:48 AM To: JFW List Subject: [JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] can't find shut down or restart button
I very seldom use my hp laptop. I am using a wireless full size keyboard, latest jaws 18, win 10. It looks like the only way that I can shut down the laptop is with the power button. I thought in the past that alt f4 on the desktop would reveal those options. I tried using the down or up arrow in the running apps and also on the desktop. Any help appreciated. --- Please visit my web page It’s motivational, inspirational with a touch of humor There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind http://www.LennyMcHugh.com International Brotherhood of Magicians member #43990 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/