Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-07 Thread Justin Williams
I missed the other two in this thread; what were they?  And, is everyone 
recommending katcha be gone?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 8:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Justin!

Of the three programs mentioned in this thread:

Captcha Be Gone
Works with Internet Explorer and Firefox https://captchabegone.com/

Rumola
Works with Firefox, Chrome, and Safari
Somebody here said it also works with Internet Explorer but I couldn't find 
anything through Google.
http://skipinput.com/

Webvisum
Works with Firefox
https://www.webvisum.com/

hth

Cheers!




On 12/6/2016 8:06 PM, Justin Williams wrote:
> I'd rather do it myself; what's the best way to get past them on my own?  
> Does anyone have a link or soekthing to the program?
>  Justin
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Kevin
> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 10:37 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help
>
> yeah I got sighted help, just wanted to see if I could do it myself!
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy Baracco
> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 1:08 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help
>
> Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e. sighted 
> assistance.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Pursley
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help
>
> I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing instead of 
> arrowing?
>
> The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit 
> frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my kids read 
> me the captcha!
>
> On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:
>> I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on 
>> I'm not a robot checked box not checked!
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Gene Warner
>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help
>>
>> Hi Kevin!
>>
>> I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label 
>> twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with 
>> and sometimes without the checkbox.
>>
>> In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which 
>> one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the 
>> checkbox, it gets tricky.
>>
>> What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous 
>> input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the 
>> time tab will land you on the one that works.
>>
>> Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is 
>> OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create 
>> a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which 
>> won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored 
>> because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only 
>> the control is selected, which does work.
>>
>> hth
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:
>>> I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just 
>>> when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box 
>>> saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so 
>>> I can send my message?
>>> I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
>>> Email is golden!!!
>>> Kevin Lee
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-06 Thread Gene Warner

Hi Justin!

Of the three programs mentioned in this thread:

Captcha Be Gone
Works with Internet Explorer and Firefox
https://captchabegone.com/

Rumola
Works with Firefox, Chrome, and Safari
Somebody here said it also works with Internet Explorer but I couldn't 
find anything through Google.

http://skipinput.com/

Webvisum
Works with Firefox
https://www.webvisum.com/

hth

Cheers!




On 12/6/2016 8:06 PM, Justin Williams wrote:

I'd rather do it myself; what's the best way to get past them on my own?  Does 
anyone have a link or soekthing to the program?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 10:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

yeah I got sighted help, just wanted to see if I could do it myself!

-Original Message-
From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 1:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e. sighted 
assistance.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing instead of 
arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit 
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my kids read me 
the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on I'm
not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label twice,
one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with and
sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous input
field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the time tab
will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is OK
for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create a
problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which
won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored because
they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only the
control is selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I
can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-06 Thread Kevin

yes!!

-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 5:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Forgive my ignorance, but what, exactly, is captcha? Is it those annoying
symbols/words you have to input in order to verify the authenticity in a
mail message on a website? Most of them are not accessible, from my
experience.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help


One cheaper alternative to Captcha Be Gone is Rumola, a similar
captcha-solving service that only costs 99 cents a year for 100 credits and
works with both IE and Firefox.  And of course, there is always Webvisum,
the free captcha-solving add-on that works with Firefox.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Kevin, are you sure they're more fortunate?
I don't intend to pay $33 a year for a service I'd rarely use, but people
who do honest work to provide something of value deserve to be compensated.
It's a question of how much and what the alternatives are.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I found it, it cost 3 bucks a month
33 bucks a year
I hate people who make money on people less fortunate!

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on
I'm not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label
twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with
and sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous
input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the
time tab will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is
OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create
a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which
won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored
because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only
the control is selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so
I can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-06 Thread Justin Williams
Found it; I'll research this one, I think I'll get the 33 dollar per year.
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

You can get Captcha Be Gone from here:
https://captchabegone.com/

Since it is written for the visually impaired, it is fully accessible via 
screen readers, including JAWS.

A couple of things to know.

It is not free, they use a subscription model, the program is fairly new so 
they are offering introductory pricing, either $3 per month or $33 per year. 
You can solve an unlimited number of captchas as long as your subscription is 
up to date.

I myself would have preferred a per use model, since I don't very often 
encounter captchas. But I'll take something that works over anything else any 
day.

It is available for Internet Explorer and Firefox. Chrome may be supported 
later on.

For the internet Explorer plug in, the Captcha solved window doesn't have any 
obvious way to dismiss it. You dismiss it using Alt+F4.

They say most Captchas are solved in 15 seconds, however, I've found that 30 to 
60 seconds is more accurate.

hth

Cheers!


On 12/5/2016 8:19 PM, wayne smith wrote:
> Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully 
> accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?
>
> Wayne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] 
> On Behalf Of Gene Warner
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help
>
> Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.
>
> On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
>> Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
>> sighted assistance.
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
>> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help
>>
>> I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing 
>> instead of arrowing?
>>
>> The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit 
>> frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my 
>> kids read me the captcha!
>>
>> On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:
>>> I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on 
>>> I'm not a robot checked box not checked!
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Gene Warner
>>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
>>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help
>>>
>>> Hi Kevin!
>>>
>>> I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label 
>>> twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes 
>>> with and sometimes without the checkbox.
>>>
>>> In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious 
>>> which one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to 
>>> have the checkbox, it gets tricky.
>>>
>>> What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous 
>>> input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the 
>>> time tab will land you on the one that works.
>>>
>>> Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is 
>>> OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can 
>>> create a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, 
>>> which won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored 
>>> because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only 
>>> the control is selected, which does work.
>>>
>>> hth
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:
>>>> I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just 
>>>> when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box 
>>>> saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so 
>>>> I can send my message?
>>>> I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
>>>> Email is golden!!!
>>>> Kevin Lee
>>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>>>
>>>
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>>
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-06 Thread Justin Williams
I'd rather do it myself; what's the best way to get past them on my own?  Does 
anyone have a link or soekthing to the program?
 Justin

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 10:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

yeah I got sighted help, just wanted to see if I could do it myself!

-Original Message-
From: Andy Baracco
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 1:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e. sighted 
assistance.

Andy


-Original Message-
From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing instead of 
arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit 
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my kids read me 
the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:
> I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on I'm 
> not a robot checked box not checked!
>
> -Original Message- From: Gene Warner
> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help
>
> Hi Kevin!
>
> I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label twice, 
> one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with and 
> sometimes without the checkbox.
>
> In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which 
> one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the 
> checkbox, it gets tricky.
>
> What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous input 
> field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the time tab 
> will land you on the one that works.
>
> Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is OK 
> for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create a 
> problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which 
> won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored because 
> they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only the 
> control is selected, which does work.
>
> hth
>
> Cheers!
>
>
>
> On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:
>> I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just 
>> when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box 
>> saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I 
>> can send my message?
>> I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
>> Email is golden!!!
>> Kevin Lee
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-06 Thread Gerald Levy


The whole purpose of these captcha solving services is to automatically 
solve image captchas without sighted help of any kind.  Rumola works with IE 
and costs 99 cents for 100 credits, which are good for a year.  You 
basically install Rumola on the IE Favorites Bar, and whenever you encounter 
a web page that contains an image captcha, you launch Rumola from the 
favorites bar, and it will solve the captcha and place the result in the 
correct edit field. Each time you solve a captcha, one credit will be 
deducted from your account.  I have not tried Captcha Be Gone, and so cannot 
vouch for its effectiveness.For more information about Rumola:


http://skipinput.com/

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 8:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Thanks Gerald.  Sounds like the last two that you mentioned would be rather
useless for persons such as myself, who have no useable vision at all. Are
there any that would work for me, using IE?

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help


Yes, you are exactly correct.  Normally, you need sighted assistance to
solve image captchas, but services like Captcha Be Gone, Rumola and Webvisum
attempt to solve them for you without the need for sighted help.  They work
very well most of the time, but once in a while, they may encounter a
captcha that they cannot solve.  Because it is free, Webvisum is the most
popular of these captcha-solving services.  But it only works with Firefox.
When using Firefox with Webvisum, and you encounter a web page that contains
an image captcha, you press the keystroke Alt-Control-numrow 6 to submit the
captcha to Webvisum for decoding.  Using some kind of proprietary algorithm,
Webvisum solves the captcha and places the result on your clipboard, ready
to be pasted into the appropriate edit field.  It is quick and convenient,
and works about 90 percent of the time.  Captcha Be Gone and Rumola rely on
sighted human operators to solve image captchas, and so their success rate
tends to be higher.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 8:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Forgive my ignorance, but what, exactly, is captcha? Is it those annoying
symbols/words you have to input in order to verify the authenticity in a
mail message on a website? Most of them are not accessible, from my
experience.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help


One cheaper alternative to Captcha Be Gone is Rumola, a similar
captcha-solving service that only costs 99 cents a year for 100 credits and
works with both IE and Firefox.  And of course, there is always Webvisum,
the free captcha-solving add-on that works with Firefox.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Kevin, are you sure they're more fortunate?
I don't intend to pay $33 a year for a service I'd rarely use, but people
who do honest work to provide something of value deserve to be compensated.
It's a question of how much and what the alternatives are.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I found it, it cost 3 bucks a month
33 bucks a year
I hate people who make money on people less fortunate!

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM

Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-06 Thread jyandt.martin
Thanks Gerald.  Sounds like the last two that you mentioned would be rather 
useless for persons such as myself, who have no useable vision at all. Are 
there any that would work for me, using IE?


-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help


Yes, you are exactly correct.  Normally, you need sighted assistance to
solve image captchas, but services like Captcha Be Gone, Rumola and Webvisum
attempt to solve them for you without the need for sighted help.  They work
very well most of the time, but once in a while, they may encounter a
captcha that they cannot solve.  Because it is free, Webvisum is the most
popular of these captcha-solving services.  But it only works with Firefox.
When using Firefox with Webvisum, and you encounter a web page that contains
an image captcha, you press the keystroke Alt-Control-numrow 6 to submit the
captcha to Webvisum for decoding.  Using some kind of proprietary algorithm,
Webvisum solves the captcha and places the result on your clipboard, ready
to be pasted into the appropriate edit field.  It is quick and convenient,
and works about 90 percent of the time.  Captcha Be Gone and Rumola rely on
sighted human operators to solve image captchas, and so their success rate
tends to be higher.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 8:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Forgive my ignorance, but what, exactly, is captcha? Is it those annoying
symbols/words you have to input in order to verify the authenticity in a
mail message on a website? Most of them are not accessible, from my
experience.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help


One cheaper alternative to Captcha Be Gone is Rumola, a similar
captcha-solving service that only costs 99 cents a year for 100 credits and
works with both IE and Firefox.  And of course, there is always Webvisum,
the free captcha-solving add-on that works with Firefox.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Kevin, are you sure they're more fortunate?
I don't intend to pay $33 a year for a service I'd rarely use, but people
who do honest work to provide something of value deserve to be compensated.
It's a question of how much and what the alternatives are.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I found it, it cost 3 bucks a month
33 bucks a year
I hate people who make money on people less fortunate!

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on
I'm not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label
twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with
and sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous
input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the
time tab will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds

Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-06 Thread Gerald Levy


Yes, you are exactly correct.  Normally, you need sighted assistance to 
solve image captchas, but services like Captcha Be Gone, Rumola and Webvisum 
attempt to solve them for you without the need for sighted help.  They work 
very well most of the time, but once in a while, they may encounter a 
captcha that they cannot solve.  Because it is free, Webvisum is the most 
popular of these captcha-solving services.  But it only works with Firefox. 
When using Firefox with Webvisum, and you encounter a web page that contains 
an image captcha, you press the keystroke Alt-Control-numrow 6 to submit the 
captcha to Webvisum for decoding.  Using some kind of proprietary algorithm, 
Webvisum solves the captcha and places the result on your clipboard, ready 
to be pasted into the appropriate edit field.  It is quick and convenient, 
and works about 90 percent of the time.  Captcha Be Gone and Rumola rely on 
sighted human operators to solve image captchas, and so their success rate 
tends to be higher.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 8:25 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Forgive my ignorance, but what, exactly, is captcha? Is it those annoying
symbols/words you have to input in order to verify the authenticity in a
mail message on a website? Most of them are not accessible, from my
experience.

-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help


One cheaper alternative to Captcha Be Gone is Rumola, a similar
captcha-solving service that only costs 99 cents a year for 100 credits and
works with both IE and Firefox.  And of course, there is always Webvisum,
the free captcha-solving add-on that works with Firefox.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Kevin, are you sure they're more fortunate?
I don't intend to pay $33 a year for a service I'd rarely use, but people
who do honest work to provide something of value deserve to be compensated.
It's a question of how much and what the alternatives are.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I found it, it cost 3 bucks a month
33 bucks a year
I hate people who make money on people less fortunate!

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on
I'm not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label
twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with
and sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous
input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the
time tab will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is
OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create
a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which
won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored
because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only
the control is selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016

Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-06 Thread Gene Warner

Hi Gerald!

That is exactly what Captchas are. Some offer audio challenges where the 
letters and numbers are read over a noisy background, and some don't. 
Then there's the new kind of captcha where you are asked a random 
question such as what is three times seven, those are accessible to all 
with no software or additional help needed.


The basic idea is to attempt to make sure that a human, rather than a 
machine, is filling out the form.


Cheers!



On 12/6/2016 8:25 AM, jyandt.mar...@comcast.net wrote:

Forgive my ignorance, but what, exactly, is captcha? Is it those
annoying symbols/words you have to input in order to verify the
authenticity in a mail message on a website? Most of them are not
accessible, from my experience.

-Original Message- From: Gerald Levy
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help


One cheaper alternative to Captcha Be Gone is Rumola, a similar
captcha-solving service that only costs 99 cents a year for 100 credits and
works with both IE and Firefox.  And of course, there is always Webvisum,
the free captcha-solving add-on that works with Firefox.

Gerald



-Original Message- From: Adrian Spratt
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Kevin, are you sure they're more fortunate?
I don't intend to pay $33 a year for a service I'd rarely use, but people
who do honest work to provide something of value deserve to be compensated.
It's a question of how much and what the alternatives are.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I found it, it cost 3 bucks a month
33 bucks a year
I hate people who make money on people less fortunate!

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on
I'm not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label
twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with
and sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous
input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the
time tab will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is
OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create
a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which
won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored
because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only
the control is selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so
I can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-06 Thread jyandt.martin
Forgive my ignorance, but what, exactly, is captcha? Is it those annoying 
symbols/words you have to input in order to verify the authenticity in a 
mail message on a website? Most of them are not accessible, from my 
experience.


-Original Message- 
From: Gerald Levy

Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2016 7:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help


One cheaper alternative to Captcha Be Gone is Rumola, a similar
captcha-solving service that only costs 99 cents a year for 100 credits and
works with both IE and Firefox.  And of course, there is always Webvisum,
the free captcha-solving add-on that works with Firefox.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Kevin, are you sure they're more fortunate?
I don't intend to pay $33 a year for a service I'd rarely use, but people
who do honest work to provide something of value deserve to be compensated.
It's a question of how much and what the alternatives are.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I found it, it cost 3 bucks a month
33 bucks a year
I hate people who make money on people less fortunate!

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on
I'm not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label
twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with
and sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous
input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the
time tab will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is
OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create
a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which
won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored
because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only
the control is selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so
I can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-06 Thread Gerald Levy


One cheaper alternative to Captcha Be Gone is Rumola, a similar 
captcha-solving service that only costs 99 cents a year for 100 credits and 
works with both IE and Firefox.  And of course, there is always Webvisum, 
the free captcha-solving add-on that works with Firefox.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2016 6:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Kevin, are you sure they're more fortunate?
I don't intend to pay $33 a year for a service I'd rarely use, but people 
who do honest work to provide something of value deserve to be compensated. 
It's a question of how much and what the alternatives are.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I found it, it cost 3 bucks a month
33 bucks a year
I hate people who make money on people less fortunate!

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully 
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?


Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on
I'm not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label
twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with
and sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous
input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the
time tab will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is
OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create
a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which
won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored
because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only
the control is selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so
I can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/

For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/




For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/


For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 



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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-06 Thread Adrian Spratt
Kevin, are you sure they're more fortunate? 
I don't intend to pay $33 a year for a service I'd rarely use, but people who 
do honest work to provide something of value deserve to be compensated. It's a 
question of how much and what the alternatives are.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 10:29 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I found it, it cost 3 bucks a month
33 bucks a year
I hate people who make money on people less fortunate!

-Original Message-
From: wayne smith
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully 
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
> Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
> sighted assistance.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help
>
> I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing 
> instead of arrowing?
>
> The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit 
> frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my 
> kids read me the captcha!
>
> On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:
>> I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on 
>> I'm not a robot checked box not checked!
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Gene Warner
>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help
>>
>> Hi Kevin!
>>
>> I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label 
>> twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with 
>> and sometimes without the checkbox.
>>
>> In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which 
>> one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the 
>> checkbox, it gets tricky.
>>
>> What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous 
>> input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the 
>> time tab will land you on the one that works.
>>
>> Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is 
>> OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create 
>> a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which 
>> won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored 
>> because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only 
>> the control is selected, which does work.
>>
>> hth
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:
>>> I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just 
>>> when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box 
>>> saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so 
>>> I can send my message?
>>> I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
>>> Email is golden!!!
>>> Kevin Lee
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Andy Baracco

it isn't a program. It's a paid service.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: wayne smith

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully 
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?


Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on
I'm not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label
twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with
and sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous
input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the
time tab will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is
OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create
a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which
won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored
because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only
the control is selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so
I can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Kevin

yeah I got sighted help, just wanted to see if I could do it myself!

-Original Message- 
From: Andy Baracco

Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 1:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e. sighted
assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Pursley

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my kids
read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:
I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on I'm not 
a robot checked box not checked!


-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label twice,
one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with and
sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous input
field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the time tab
will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is OK
for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create a
problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which won't
work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored because they go
to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only the control is
selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:
I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just when 
I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box saying I am 
not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I can send my 
message?

I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Chief Investment Officer
Gaia Capital Management
Underpinned by sustainably growing cash dividends from quality
 companies, we seek long term client account growth

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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Kevin

I found it, it cost 3 bucks a month
33 bucks a year
I hate people who make money on people less fortunate!

-Original Message- 
From: wayne smith

Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 5:19 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully 
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?


Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Gene Warner

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on
I'm not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label
twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with
and sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous
input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the
time tab will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is
OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create
a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which
won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored
because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only
the control is selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so
I can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Gene Warner

You can get Captcha Be Gone from here:
https://captchabegone.com/

Since it is written for the visually impaired, it is fully accessible 
via screen readers, including JAWS.


A couple of things to know.

It is not free, they use a subscription model, the program is fairly new 
so they are offering introductory pricing, either $3 per month or $33 
per year. You can solve an unlimited number of captchas as long as your 
subscription is up to date.


I myself would have preferred a per use model, since I don't very often 
encounter captchas. But I'll take something that works over anything 
else any day.


It is available for Internet Explorer and Firefox. Chrome may be 
supported later on.


For the internet Explorer plug in, the Captcha solved window doesn't 
have any obvious way to dismiss it. You dismiss it using Alt+F4.


They say most Captchas are solved in 15 seconds, however, I've found 
that 30 to 60 seconds is more accurate.


hth

Cheers!


On 12/5/2016 8:19 PM, wayne smith wrote:

Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully 
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my
kids read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on
I'm not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label
twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with
and sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous
input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the
time tab will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is
OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create
a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which
won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored
because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only
the control is selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so
I can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread wayne smith
Can you give us more info on this program and where to get it?  Is it fully 
accessible with recent versions of JAWS, say from 15 onward?

Wayne

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 6:06 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:
> Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
> sighted assistance.
>
> Andy
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help
>
> I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing 
> instead of arrowing?
>
> The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit 
> frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my 
> kids read me the captcha!
>
> On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:
>> I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on 
>> I'm not a robot checked box not checked!
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Gene Warner
>> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
>> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
>> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help
>>
>> Hi Kevin!
>>
>> I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label 
>> twice, one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with 
>> and sometimes without the checkbox.
>>
>> In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which 
>> one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the 
>> checkbox, it gets tricky.
>>
>> What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous 
>> input field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the 
>> time tab will land you on the one that works.
>>
>> Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is 
>> OK for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create 
>> a problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which 
>> won't work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored 
>> because they go to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only 
>> the control is selected, which does work.
>>
>> hth
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:
>>> I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just 
>>> when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box 
>>> saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so 
>>> I can send my message?
>>> I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
>>> Email is golden!!!
>>> Kevin Lee
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>

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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Gene Warner

Or use Captcha Be Gone as I do.

On 12/5/2016 4:08 PM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e.
sighted assistance.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Jim Pursley
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my kids
read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on I'm
not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label twice,
one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with and
sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous input
field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the time tab
will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is OK
for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create a
problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which won't
work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored because they go
to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only the control is
selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I
can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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http://www.jaws-users.com/help/



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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Andy Baracco
JAWS does not show the box as checked after you press the spacebar, but it 
actually is. After pressing the spacebar arrow down and you will find the 
CAPTCHA. Some sites use a challege that you can solve, such as answering a 
question, and some offer an audio challenge, but unfortunately many still 
only offer the traditional CAPTCHA.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 8:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just when I 
get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box saying I am not a 
robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I can send my message?

I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Andy Baracco
Sometimes you just need to employ that biological interface, i. e. sighted 
assistance.


Andy


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Pursley

Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 9:30 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing
instead of arrowing?

The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my kids
read me the captcha!

On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:
I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on I'm not 
a robot checked box not checked!


-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label twice,
one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with and
sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous input
field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the time tab
will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is OK
for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create a
problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which won't
work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored because they go
to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only the control is
selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:
I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just when 
I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box saying I am 
not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I can send my 
message?

I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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--

James C. Pursley
Chief Investment Officer
Gaia Capital Management
Underpinned by sustainably growing cash dividends from quality
 companies, we seek long term client account growth

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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Adrian Spratt
Try pressing the enter key. Also, be sure to refresh with JAWS key+escape after 
you do so. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Kevin
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2016 11:05 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just when I get 
to the bottom just before sending there is a check box saying I am not a robot 
and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Jim Pursley
I, too, find cursor placement frustrating.  Have you ried tabvbing 
instead of arrowing?


The audio captcha is, well, audible but I find cursor placement a bit 
frustrating.  Practice makes perfect, I guess.  I resist having my kids 
read me the captcha!


On 12/5/2016 2:36 PM, Kevin wrote:
I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on I'm 
not a robot checked box not checked!


-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label twice,
one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with and
sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous input
field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the time tab
will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is OK
for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create a
problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which won't
work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored because they go
to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only the control is
selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:
I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just 
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box 
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I 
can send my message?

I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Gene Warner

Hi Kevin!

The only other thing I can think of to try is to, first make sure 
numlock is turned off, then press the slash key right next to the 
numlock key. This according to the JAWS documentation is supposed to be 
like clicking the left mouse button.


hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:36 AM, Kevin wrote:

I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on I'm
not a robot checked box not checked!

-Original Message- From: Gene Warner
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label twice,
one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with and
sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous input
field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the time tab
will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is OK
for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create a
problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which won't
work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored because they go
to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only the control is
selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just
when I get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box
saying I am not a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I
can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Kevin
I do that arrowing up get captcha verification tab and I'm back on I'm not a 
robot checked box not checked!


-Original Message- 
From: Gene Warner

Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 8:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label twice,
one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with and
sometimes without the checkbox.

In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the
checkbox, it gets tricky.

What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous input
field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the time tab
will land you on the one that works.

Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is OK
for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create a
problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which won't
work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored because they go
to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only the control is
selected, which does work.

hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:
I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just when I 
get to the bottom just before sending there is a check box saying I am not 
a robot and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I can send my message?

I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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Re: [JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Gene Warner

Hi Kevin!

I have found that sometimes, JAWS will read the check box label twice, 
one with the checkbox at the end, and the other sometimes with and 
sometimes without the checkbox.


In the case where only one label has the checkbox, it's obvious which 
one is the correct one to check, but when they both seem to have the 
checkbox, it gets tricky.


What I've found that often helps, is to up arrow to the previous input 
field or control, then tab back to the checkbox. Most of the time tab 
will land you on the one that works.


Sometimes they use lists item for the various imput fileds, this is OK 
for input fields, but for buttons and other controls it can create a 
problem if both the list item and the control are selected, which won't 
work, often attempts to activate the control are ignored because they go 
to the list item instead. Tab will insure that only the control is 
selected, which does work.


hth

Cheers!



On 12/5/2016 11:05 AM, Kevin wrote:

I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just when I get 
to the bottom just before sending there is a check box saying I am not a robot 
and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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[JAWS-Users] captcha help

2016-12-05 Thread Kevin
I need some help on a email form, I can fill out everything ok just when I get 
to the bottom just before sending there is a check box saying I am not a robot 
and it’s not checked.  how do I check it so I can send my message?
I keep trying to press the spacebar to check it, but it won’t check.
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
http://www.jaws-users.com/help/