Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

2018-02-12 Thread chris judge
Hi. I tried this, but it seems to have disabled the numpad insert as a jaws
modifier. I'd like to be able to use both.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of net bat66
Sent: February 11, 2018 7:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

you don't have to change to the laptop layout if you are useing a desktop
keyboard.
you can open the jaws settings center with jaws 6.  then press control shift
d to change to the default settings center.
then arrow to keyboard,general, then to  desktop jaws key and press the
space bar on it to switch it between capslock or insert for the jaws key.
then you won't have to reach across the keyboard to get to the insert jaws
key.
but in this mode you have to press alt capslock to turn the capslock key on
or off.








-Original Message-
From: Hans Pauli Sundstein
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

Hi.

Change keyboard layout in Jaws to "Laptop" and you'll be able to use the
Capslock key as Jawskey.

Hans Pauli.


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Emne: ***SPAM*** [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

Hi:



I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost impossible
to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?



Thanks,



George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com



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Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

2018-02-12 Thread chris judge
It's a bit easier if you switch to the laptop layout. 

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Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: February 11, 2018 6:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

I don't know what bright soul came up with the idea for that kind of salute.

Perhaps they thought it wouldn't be used by any other program.

- Original Message - 
From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey


> What a crazy key combination.  I'm fortunate to have a PC keyboard where 
> the JAWS key is next to the f12.
> But even with this layout, it is rather weird.
> I put my thumb on the m, right pinkie on the JAWS key, then use any other 
> finger on my left hand to hit the alt.
>
> I use one hand to do things most of the time, and I wish I had a keyboard 
> that had an insert key on the left side along with a num pad.  I know one 
> can get an external num pad.  But I don't really use strange key 
> combinations often.  But I would appreciate an escape key on the right 
> side.
>
> Vince
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "George Marshall" <geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:37 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey
>
>
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>>
>> I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
>> keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost 
>> impossible
>> to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> George R. Marshall
>> geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

2018-02-12 Thread Roger Newell
In order for a webpage to be fully "accessible", the page also needs
to be usable. I have also run into circumstances where a page may have
every heading tagged as such, every buttonand link labelled correctly
and actionable, every graphic described, every form control usable,
every custom widget operable ... yet the webpage is not easily
navigable, so therefore is not accessible.

On 2/12/18, Adrian Spratt <adr...@adrianspratt.com> wrote:
> I have come across this keystroke on websites that I believe reflect
> consultations from a certain Web accessibility company. I know one website
> for sure that hired this consultant and uses this keystroke. It comes with a
> verbalization along the lines that to open such-and-such, press... It helps
> me appreciate the care VFO and its predecessors have made to assign sensible
> key combinations for JAWS commands.
> I'm concerned that Web accessibility consultants are increasingly missing
> the forest for the trees. Another website that relied on an accessibility
> consultant has so many headings per page that their usefulness is negated.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Mr. Ed
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:03 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey
>
> What does that keystroke do?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Andy Baracco
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 4:22 PM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey
>
> I don't know what bright soul came up with the idea for that kind of
> salute.
>
> Perhaps they thought it wouldn't be used by any other program.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey
>
>
>> What a crazy key combination.  I'm fortunate to have a PC keyboard where
>> the JAWS key is next to the f12.
>> But even with this layout, it is rather weird.
>> I put my thumb on the m, right pinkie on the JAWS key, then use any other
>>
>> finger on my left hand to hit the alt.
>>
>> I use one hand to do things most of the time, and I wish I had a keyboard
>>
>> that had an insert key on the left side along with a num pad.  I know one
>>
>> can get an external num pad.  But I don't really use strange key
>> combinations often.  But I would appreciate an escape key on the right
>> side.
>>
>> Vince
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "George Marshall" <geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com>
>> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:37 AM
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey
>>
>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
>>> keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost
>>> impossible
>>> to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> George R. Marshall
>>> geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

2018-02-11 Thread Adrian Spratt
I have come across this keystroke on websites that I believe reflect 
consultations from a certain Web accessibility company. I know one website for 
sure that hired this consultant and uses this keystroke. It comes with a 
verbalization along the lines that to open such-and-such, press... It helps me 
appreciate the care VFO and its predecessors have made to assign sensible key 
combinations for JAWS commands. 
I'm concerned that Web accessibility consultants are increasingly missing the 
forest for the trees. Another website that relied on an accessibility 
consultant has so many headings per page that their usefulness is negated. 

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Mr. Ed
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

What does that keystroke do?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 4:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

I don't know what bright soul came up with the idea for that kind of salute.

Perhaps they thought it wouldn't be used by any other program.

- Original Message -
From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey


> What a crazy key combination.  I'm fortunate to have a PC keyboard where 
> the JAWS key is next to the f12.
> But even with this layout, it is rather weird.
> I put my thumb on the m, right pinkie on the JAWS key, then use any other 
> finger on my left hand to hit the alt.
>
> I use one hand to do things most of the time, and I wish I had a keyboard 
> that had an insert key on the left side along with a num pad.  I know one 
> can get an external num pad.  But I don't really use strange key 
> combinations often.  But I would appreciate an escape key on the right 
> side.
>
> Vince
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "George Marshall" <geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:37 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey
>
>
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>>
>> I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
>> keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost 
>> impossible
>> to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> George R. Marshall
>> geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

2018-02-11 Thread net bat66
you don't have to change to the laptop layout if you are useing a desktop 
keyboard.
you can open the jaws settings center with jaws 6.  then press control shift d 
to change to the default settings center.
then arrow to keyboard,general, then to  desktop jaws key and press the space 
bar on it to switch it between capslock or insert for the jaws key.

then you won't have to reach across the keyboard to get to the insert jaws key.
but in this mode you have to press alt capslock to turn the capslock key on or 
off.









-Original Message- 
From: Hans Pauli Sundstein

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:10 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] ***SPAM*** help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

Hi.

Change keyboard layout in Jaws to "Laptop" and you'll be able to use the
Capslock key as Jawskey.

Hans Pauli.


-Oprindelig meddelelse- 
Fra: George Marshall

Dato: 11. februar 2018 16:37
Til: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Emne: ***SPAM*** [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

Hi:



I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost impossible
to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?



Thanks,



George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com



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Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

2018-02-11 Thread Mr. Ed
What does that keystroke do?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 4:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

I don't know what bright soul came up with the idea for that kind of salute.

Perhaps they thought it wouldn't be used by any other program.

- Original Message - 
From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey


> What a crazy key combination.  I'm fortunate to have a PC keyboard where 
> the JAWS key is next to the f12.
> But even with this layout, it is rather weird.
> I put my thumb on the m, right pinkie on the JAWS key, then use any other 
> finger on my left hand to hit the alt.
>
> I use one hand to do things most of the time, and I wish I had a keyboard 
> that had an insert key on the left side along with a num pad.  I know one 
> can get an external num pad.  But I don't really use strange key 
> combinations often.  But I would appreciate an escape key on the right 
> side.
>
> Vince
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "George Marshall" <geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:37 AM
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey
>
>
>> Hi:
>>
>>
>>
>> I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
>> keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost 
>> impossible
>> to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> George R. Marshall
>> geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ 


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Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

2018-02-11 Thread Andy Baracco
I don't know what bright soul came up with the idea for that kind of salute. 
Perhaps they thought it wouldn't be used by any other program.


- Original Message - 
From: "cheez" <ch...@cox.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey


What a crazy key combination.  I'm fortunate to have a PC keyboard where 
the JAWS key is next to the f12.

But even with this layout, it is rather weird.
I put my thumb on the m, right pinkie on the JAWS key, then use any other 
finger on my left hand to hit the alt.


I use one hand to do things most of the time, and I wish I had a keyboard 
that had an insert key on the left side along with a num pad.  I know one 
can get an external num pad.  But I don't really use strange key 
combinations often.  But I would appreciate an escape key on the right 
side.


Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "George Marshall" <geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:37 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey



Hi:



I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost 
impossible

to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?



Thanks,



George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com



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Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

2018-02-11 Thread cheez
What a crazy key combination.  I'm fortunate to have a PC keyboard where the 
JAWS key is next to the f12.

But even with this layout, it is rather weird.
I put my thumb on the m, right pinkie on the JAWS key, then use any other 
finger on my left hand to hit the alt.


I use one hand to do things most of the time, and I wish I had a keyboard 
that had an insert key on the left side along with a num pad.  I know one 
can get an external num pad.  But I don't really use strange key 
combinations often.  But I would appreciate an escape key on the right side.


Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "George Marshall" <geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 8:37 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey



Hi:



I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost 
impossible

to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?



Thanks,



George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com



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Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

2018-02-11 Thread patti
This is how I handle it.

Insert Mode
Jaws 18
1, Open the Settings Center in either of these 2 ways.
A, Press, Insert / Jaws Key + 6, on the number row above the main keyboard.
B, Press, Insert / Jaws Key + F2,
2, With the Settings Center open
press, control, shift , + D, to open the Settings Center Default All
Applications.
3, Arrow down to, Users, right arrow to open.
4, Arrow down to, Insert Key Mode, press space bar to check this box.
Here's the explanation of this option:
When selected, the INSERT key functions as a sticky key. Any key pressed
immediately after pressing the INSERT key is treated as if it were pressed
in combination with the INSERT key. This check box is cleared by default.
5, tab to ok, press the space bar
I hope it will help you. Now you don't have to stretch your fingers, smiles.
Patti

Hi:

I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost impossible
to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?

 

Thanks,

 

George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

2018-02-11 Thread Al Sorrentino
Hi George,

These key strokes can be accomplished in this manor:

First, with the pointer finger of your right hand, press the insert key, or
JAWS key.

Second, with your left hand, place the thumb on the Alt key and with the
pointer finger of your left hand place it on the M key.  Please note that
the M key is just above the Alt key on the right side of your keyboard.

I hope this helps?

Al



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Behalf Of George Marshall
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

Hi:

 

I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost impossible
to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?

 

Thanks,

 

George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com 

 

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Re: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

2018-02-11 Thread John R. Vaughn
George, have you tried going into the "sticky keys" setting in the "ease of
access settings"?The control for this is under "make the keyboard easier to
use". In this setting which you can check, you can touch keys sequentualy
for a command.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of George Marshall
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 10:38 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

Hi:

 

I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost impossible
to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?

 

Thanks,

 

George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com 

 

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[JAWS-Users] help With keystroke alt+M +jawskey

2018-02-11 Thread George Marshall
Hi:

 

I am using Windows7 jaws2018 and I have A bank program that requires the
keystroke in the subject feel, I have small hands and it's almost impossible
to perform this keystroke. Does anyone have a solution for this?

 

Thanks,

 

George R. Marshall
geoma4.marsh...@gmail.com 

 

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