Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
I HATE sometimes behavior in a computer. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. George a Martinez CPA, PC 12231 N 50th Avenue Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215 Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206-666-2589 Email ga.marti...@cox.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 1:37 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Agreed about MSFT and IE. But, this behavior has been occurring for at least a year; and it doesn't occur when using other screen readers. The problem is that it is not totally replicable; you can try the same thing and it might only happen ten percent of the time. I haven't had this issue with Googl3e Chrome, but since a lot of people still use IE, it is frustrating that this problem is so widespread. - Original Message - From: "George Martinez Sr" <ga.marti...@cox.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 > Microsoft is taking their foot off the pedal with IE-11. Therefore, you > should get used to using another browser. > Several of the banks I log into for clients stopped allowing me to login > with IE-11 forcing me to switch. > Now for the good part, a number of IRS web sites I use for professionals > will not allow you to use anything but IE-11. > So, I now have 3 browsers loaded on my task bar with Chrome as my default. > George > > The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and > expecting different results. > George a Martinez CPA, PC > 12231 N 50th Avenue > Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215 > Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206-666-2589 > Email ga.marti...@cox.net > > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On > Behalf Of Steve > Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:41 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 > > Unfortunately, this is a pretty common occurrence lately with Jaws and IE > 11. > > Come on, guys at FS, I'm sure your techs have dealt with this enough > already! > > Steve > - Original Message - > From: "T. Civitello" <tciv...@comcast.net> > To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:03 PM > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 > > >> Jaws goes silent for short periods and usually IE 11 stops working. I >> will try it on my Win 10 pc later this evening. I was trying the Costco, >> hearing aid center site this afternoon and finally got exasperated and >> gave it up. Tom >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Mike B. >> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:07 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 >> >> Hi Tom >> >> It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer >> versions >> were installed. I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I >> was >> told by FS tech support several years ago. If you uninstall J2018, make >> sure to leave shared components & settings. You can try installing J17 >> first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about >> removing >> 2018. What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018? >> Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year! >> Sent from my iBarstool. >> Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In >> the >> end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. >> - Original Message - >> From: T. Civitello >> To: Jaws users list >> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM >> Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 >> >> >> Windows 7 and Jaws 2018 >> I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version >> 17 >> in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of >> 2018 >> first. Thanks, Tom >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ >> >> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: >> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
Agreed about MSFT and IE. But, this behavior has been occurring for at least a year; and it doesn't occur when using other screen readers. The problem is that it is not totally replicable; you can try the same thing and it might only happen ten percent of the time. I haven't had this issue with Googl3e Chrome, but since a lot of people still use IE, it is frustrating that this problem is so widespread. - Original Message - From: "George Martinez Sr" <ga.marti...@cox.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Microsoft is taking their foot off the pedal with IE-11. Therefore, you should get used to using another browser. Several of the banks I log into for clients stopped allowing me to login with IE-11 forcing me to switch. Now for the good part, a number of IRS web sites I use for professionals will not allow you to use anything but IE-11. So, I now have 3 browsers loaded on my task bar with Chrome as my default. George The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. George a Martinez CPA, PC 12231 N 50th Avenue Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215 Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206-666-2589 Email ga.marti...@cox.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Unfortunately, this is a pretty common occurrence lately with Jaws and IE 11. Come on, guys at FS, I'm sure your techs have dealt with this enough already! Steve - Original Message - From: "T. Civitello" <tciv...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Jaws goes silent for short periods and usually IE 11 stops working. I will try it on my Win 10 pc later this evening. I was trying the Costco, hearing aid center site this afternoon and finally got exasperated and gave it up. Tom -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Hi Tom It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer versions were installed. I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I was told by FS tech support several years ago. If you uninstall J2018, make sure to leave shared components & settings. You can try installing J17 first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about removing 2018. What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018? Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: T. Civitello To: Jaws users list Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Windows 7 and Jaws 2018 I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version 17 in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of 2018 first. Thanks, Tom For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
Microsoft is taking their foot off the pedal with IE-11. Therefore, you should get used to using another browser. Several of the banks I log into for clients stopped allowing me to login with IE-11 forcing me to switch. Now for the good part, a number of IRS web sites I use for professionals will not allow you to use anything but IE-11. So, I now have 3 browsers loaded on my task bar with Chrome as my default. George The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. George a Martinez CPA, PC 12231 N 50th Avenue Glendale, Arizona 85304-2215 Voice 602.368.8854 FAX 206-666-2589 Email ga.marti...@cox.net -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, November 16, 2017 12:41 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Unfortunately, this is a pretty common occurrence lately with Jaws and IE 11. Come on, guys at FS, I'm sure your techs have dealt with this enough already! Steve - Original Message - From: "T. Civitello" <tciv...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 > Jaws goes silent for short periods and usually IE 11 stops working. I > will try it on my Win 10 pc later this evening. I was trying the Costco, > hearing aid center site this afternoon and finally got exasperated and > gave it up. Tom > > -Original Message- > From: Mike B. > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:07 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 > > Hi Tom > > It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer > versions > were installed. I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I > was > told by FS tech support several years ago. If you uninstall J2018, make > sure to leave shared components & settings. You can try installing J17 > first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about > removing > 2018. What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018? > Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year! > Sent from my iBarstool. > Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the > end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. > - Original Message - > From: T. Civitello > To: Jaws users list > Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM > Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 > > > Windows 7 and Jaws 2018 > I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version > 17 > in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of > 2018 > first. Thanks, Tom > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ > > For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: > http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
Unfortunately, this is a pretty common occurrence lately with Jaws and IE 11. Come on, guys at FS, I'm sure your techs have dealt with this enough already! Steve - Original Message - From: "T. Civitello" <tciv...@comcast.net> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Jaws goes silent for short periods and usually IE 11 stops working. I will try it on my Win 10 pc later this evening. I was trying the Costco, hearing aid center site this afternoon and finally got exasperated and gave it up. Tom -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Hi Tom It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer versions were installed. I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I was told by FS tech support several years ago. If you uninstall J2018, make sure to leave shared components & settings. You can try installing J17 first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about removing 2018. What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018? Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: T. Civitello To: Jaws users list Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Windows 7 and Jaws 2018 I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version 17 in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of 2018 first. Thanks, Tom For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
Remember IE is not being updated as much as other components of windows. Also live mail is suffering the same fait. -Original Message- From: T. Civitello Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 10:03 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Jaws goes silent for short periods and usually IE 11 stops working. I will try it on my Win 10 pc later this evening. I was trying the Costco, hearing aid center site this afternoon and finally got exasperated and gave it up. Tom -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Hi Tom It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer versions were installed. I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I was told by FS tech support several years ago. If you uninstall J2018, make sure to leave shared components & settings. You can try installing J17 first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about removing 2018. What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018? Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: T. Civitello To: Jaws users list Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Windows 7 and Jaws 2018 I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version 17 in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of 2018 first. Thanks, Tom For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ David Ferrin You don't have to be crazy to run a list like this, but it does help. For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
OK! I tried the Costco hearing site using Jaws 2018,Win 10 and IE 11. No problem at all. My problem then would seem to be with Windows 7 or a Jaws 2018 problem With Windows 7. Tom -Original Message- From: T. Civitello Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 7:03 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Jaws goes silent for short periods and usually IE 11 stops working. I will try it on my Win 10 pc later this evening. I was trying the Costco, hearing aid center site this afternoon and finally got exasperated and gave it up. Tom -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Hi Tom It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer versions were installed. I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I was told by FS tech support several years ago. If you uninstall J2018, make sure to leave shared components & settings. You can try installing J17 first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about removing 2018. What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018? Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: T. Civitello To: Jaws users list Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Windows 7 and Jaws 2018 I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version 17 in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of 2018 first. Thanks, Tom For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
Jaws goes silent for short periods and usually IE 11 stops working. I will try it on my Win 10 pc later this evening. I was trying the Costco, hearing aid center site this afternoon and finally got exasperated and gave it up. Tom -Original Message- From: Mike B. Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 6:07 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Hi Tom It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer versions were installed. I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I was told by FS tech support several years ago. If you uninstall J2018, make sure to leave shared components & settings. You can try installing J17 first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about removing 2018. What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018? Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: T. Civitello To: Jaws users list Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Windows 7 and Jaws 2018 I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version 17 in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of 2018 first. Thanks, Tom For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] version 2018
Hi Tom It used to be recommended not to install older versions after newer versions were installed. I can't tell you why this is, only that this was what I was told by FS tech support several years ago. If you uninstall J2018, make sure to leave shared components & settings. You can try installing J17 first, & if everything works out just fine, then don't worry about removing 2018. What kind of problems are you having with IE11 & J2018? Take care. Mike. Dodgers, try again next year! Sent from my iBarstool. Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement. In the end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree. - Original Message - From: T. Civitello To: Jaws users list Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2017 5:24 PM Subject: [JAWS-Users] version 2018 Windows 7 and Jaws 2018 I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version 17 in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of 2018 first. Thanks, Tom For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
[JAWS-Users] version 2018
Windows 7 and Jaws 2018 I am fed up with version 2018 on the Internet with IE 11. I have version 17 in my download folder can I just install it or do I have to get rid of 2018 first. Thanks, Tom For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
