Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks.
Thank you for a more in-depth description of the process. Imagine me wondering how I would navigate to a web page, download a file to give my tablet speech without having any in the first place. If I could do that myself then you folks would be looking for another JAWS list because it would be of no further use to me. So my thoughts that there would be no way at all a blind person could do it themselves is basicly confirmed. I figure you have to place an ILM key on it as well, he stated hoping for confirmation on that as well. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Kolwick Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to haveone givento me in two weeks. Hello, someone else already described an option. Someone sighted, helped me do it. I did download the program and put the file on a SD card and hooked it up to the tablet and installed through this process. You might also turn off the user account settings, where you have to give permission to install new programs. My friend found where to do this and he did it. I do not recall how he did it. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to haveone givento me in two weeks. Would you mind describing the procedure for installing JAWS on a tablet. I imagine it is something I could figure out, but since the wheel has already been invented. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Kolwick Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. I recently purchased a windows 8.1 tablet and installed jaws 16 on it. I have not used it much, so I still know very little. I did find an utility that provides a start menu option: it is called istartmenu. It is either free or shareware. It is accessible hth -Original Message- From: Louise Johnson Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. Hi first I do use windows 8.1.1 and I find two things that help me and yes I use JAWS 16. One first using the desk top I have put the programs on it that I use all the time. Two I have put the most important ones on the task bar and use windows 1 up to windows 9 to get the ones and I put them in order of importants this makes it easy. I always have email in one and getting my documents there was hard but it is in two and then in three is Firefox and on and on. I love that I can open them in anywhere I am so in email I can open new word document or go anywhere else and go back by hitting email one again or use alt tab. I put on desk top things that are only used less often. I find that tab or shift tab is very helpful in some areas. If you have any questions ask for information and I will try to answer. One more thing that I use a lot is application key or on lap top computer shift f10. This is one of the areas you will find things to help you. Louise and Princess Kiara -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: January 22, 2015 10:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one given to me in two weeks. If one, or some of you, who have windows 8.1 could give me some tips and tricks on how to use windows 8.1 with jaws 16, I would really appreciate it. I am a W7 computer user now, and I want windows 8.1 to be as easy to use as possible. You can write me off list, at, jazzpi...@ca.rr.com, or, post here, but I am thinking about all the traffic we get on this list, so anything any of you can do to ease the transition, will be really appreciated. Smile. thanks. Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks.
I would assume you could get the process started by using Narrato which, in Windows 8.1, is supposed to be easier to work with than in previous versions of Windows.r -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 11:59 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. Thank you for a more in-depth description of the process. Imagine me wondering how I would navigate to a web page, download a file to give my tablet speech without having any in the first place. If I could do that myself then you folks would be looking for another JAWS list because it would be of no further use to me. So my thoughts that there would be no way at all a blind person could do it themselves is basicly confirmed. I figure you have to place an ILM key on it as well, he stated hoping for confirmation on that as well. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Kolwick Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to haveone givento me in two weeks. Hello, someone else already described an option. Someone sighted, helped me do it. I did download the program and put the file on a SD card and hooked it up to the tablet and installed through this process. You might also turn off the user account settings, where you have to give permission to install new programs. My friend found where to do this and he did it. I do not recall how he did it. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to haveone givento me in two weeks. Would you mind describing the procedure for installing JAWS on a tablet. I imagine it is something I could figure out, but since the wheel has already been invented. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Kolwick Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. I recently purchased a windows 8.1 tablet and installed jaws 16 on it. I have not used it much, so I still know very little. I did find an utility that provides a start menu option: it is called istartmenu. It is either free or shareware. It is accessible hth -Original Message- From: Louise Johnson Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. Hi first I do use windows 8.1.1 and I find two things that help me and yes I use JAWS 16. One first using the desk top I have put the programs on it that I use all the time. Two I have put the most important ones on the task bar and use windows 1 up to windows 9 to get the ones and I put them in order of importants this makes it easy. I always have email in one and getting my documents there was hard but it is in two and then in three is Firefox and on and on. I love that I can open them in anywhere I am so in email I can open new word document or go anywhere else and go back by hitting email one again or use alt tab. I put on desk top things that are only used less often. I find that tab or shift tab is very helpful in some areas. If you have any questions ask for information and I will try to answer. One more thing that I use a lot is application key or on lap top computer shift f10. This is one of the areas you will find things to help you. Louise and Princess Kiara -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: January 22, 2015 10:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one given to me in two weeks. If one, or some of you, who have windows 8.1 could give me some tips and tricks on how to use windows 8.1 with jaws 16, I would really appreciate it. I am a W7 computer user now, and I want windows 8.1 to be as easy to use as possible. You can write me off list, at, jazzpi...@ca.rr.com, or, post here, but I am thinking about all the traffic we get on this list, so anything any of you can do to ease the transition, will be really appreciated. Smile. thanks. Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks.
Hi Not only installing JAWS would be difficult, but I assume you have to go through the Windows setup screens first. If there was a keyboard attached to the tablet, you could start Narrator to install JAWS by pressing WindowsKey+r for the run dialog and typing Narrator and pressing enter. I would have the JAWS installation file on a SD card or USB drive instead of downloading it onto the tablet. For the Windows setup screens for Windows 7, I saw that you could open the Ease of Access center at the first setup screen and Narrator would read the choices as you tabbed through the dialog. So if you tabbed to Narrator and press enter Narrator would be running for the whole setup. So hopefully, this would also work in Windows 8.1 for the setup screens. I think I used WindowsKey+u to open the Ease of Access Center for the Windows setup screens, but I'm not real sure. However, if there's no keyboard attached, I don't believe it could be done without sight. I saw some instructions for starting Narrator without a keyboard, but they required you to swipe in a particular spot and then touch a certain charm bar. You have to install an ILM key on the tablet. But you don't have to do that until you start JAWS after it is installed, so there would be speech. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of David Ferrin Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:59 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. Thank you for a more in-depth description of the process. Imagine me wondering how I would navigate to a web page, download a file to give my tablet speech without having any in the first place. If I could do that myself then you folks would be looking for another JAWS list because it would be of no further use to me. So my thoughts that there would be no way at all a blind person could do it themselves is basicly confirmed. I figure you have to place an ILM key on it as well, he stated hoping for confirmation on that as well. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Kolwick Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:04 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to haveone givento me in two weeks. Hello, someone else already described an option. Someone sighted, helped me do it. I did download the program and put the file on a SD card and hooked it up to the tablet and installed through this process. You might also turn off the user account settings, where you have to give permission to install new programs. My friend found where to do this and he did it. I do not recall how he did it. -Original Message- From: David Ferrin Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:56 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to haveone givento me in two weeks. Would you mind describing the procedure for installing JAWS on a tablet. I imagine it is something I could figure out, but since the wheel has already been invented. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Kolwick Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. I recently purchased a windows 8.1 tablet and installed jaws 16 on it. I have not used it much, so I still know very little. I did find an utility that provides a start menu option: it is called istartmenu. It is either free or shareware. It is accessible hth -Original Message- From: Louise Johnson Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. Hi first I do use windows 8.1.1 and I find two things that help me and yes I use JAWS 16. One first using the desk top I have put the programs on it that I use all the time. Two I have put the most important ones on the task bar and use windows 1 up to windows 9 to get the ones and I put them in order of importants this makes it easy. I always have email in one and getting my documents there was hard but it is in two and then in three is Firefox and on and on. I love that I can open them in anywhere I am so in email I can open new word document or go anywhere else and go back by hitting email one again or use alt tab. I put on desk top things that are only used less often. I find that tab or shift tab is very helpful in some areas. If you
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks.
David, You could simply go to the FS website and download the file and install that way or copy the executable file to the documents folder on the tablet and then just click on that and install that way. I did this with my Dell pro eight but I did use and external Bluetooth keyboard Best, Alan On Jan 23, 2015, at 06:56, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote: Would you mind describing the procedure for installing JAWS on a tablet. I imagine it is something I could figure out, but since the wheel has already been invented. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Kolwick Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. I recently purchased a windows 8.1 tablet and installed jaws 16 on it. I have not used it much, so I still know very little. I did find an utility that provides a start menu option: it is called istartmenu. It is either free or shareware. It is accessible hth -Original Message- From: Louise Johnson Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. Hi first I do use windows 8.1.1 and I find two things that help me and yes I use JAWS 16. One first using the desk top I have put the programs on it that I use all the time. Two I have put the most important ones on the task bar and use windows 1 up to windows 9 to get the ones and I put them in order of importants this makes it easy. I always have email in one and getting my documents there was hard but it is in two and then in three is Firefox and on and on. I love that I can open them in anywhere I am so in email I can open new word document or go anywhere else and go back by hitting email one again or use alt tab. I put on desk top things that are only used less often. I find that tab or shift tab is very helpful in some areas. If you have any questions ask for information and I will try to answer. One more thing that I use a lot is application key or on lap top computer shift f10. This is one of the areas you will find things to help you. Louise and Princess Kiara -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: January 22, 2015 10:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one given to me in two weeks. If one, or some of you, who have windows 8.1 could give me some tips and tricks on how to use windows 8.1 with jaws 16, I would really appreciate it. I am a W7 computer user now, and I want windows 8.1 to be as easy to use as possible. You can write me off list, at, jazzpi...@ca.rr.com, or, post here, but I am thinking about all the traffic we get on this list, so anything any of you can do to ease the transition, will be really appreciated. Smile. thanks. Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks.
Would you mind describing the procedure for installing JAWS on a tablet. I imagine it is something I could figure out, but since the wheel has already been invented. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of John Kolwick Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. I recently purchased a windows 8.1 tablet and installed jaws 16 on it. I have not used it much, so I still know very little. I did find an utility that provides a start menu option: it is called istartmenu. It is either free or shareware. It is accessible hth -Original Message- From: Louise Johnson Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. Hi first I do use windows 8.1.1 and I find two things that help me and yes I use JAWS 16. One first using the desk top I have put the programs on it that I use all the time. Two I have put the most important ones on the task bar and use windows 1 up to windows 9 to get the ones and I put them in order of importants this makes it easy. I always have email in one and getting my documents there was hard but it is in two and then in three is Firefox and on and on. I love that I can open them in anywhere I am so in email I can open new word document or go anywhere else and go back by hitting email one again or use alt tab. I put on desk top things that are only used less often. I find that tab or shift tab is very helpful in some areas. If you have any questions ask for information and I will try to answer. One more thing that I use a lot is application key or on lap top computer shift f10. This is one of the areas you will find things to help you. Louise and Princess Kiara -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: January 22, 2015 10:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one given to me in two weeks. If one, or some of you, who have windows 8.1 could give me some tips and tricks on how to use windows 8.1 with jaws 16, I would really appreciate it. I am a W7 computer user now, and I want windows 8.1 to be as easy to use as possible. You can write me off list, at, jazzpi...@ca.rr.com, or, post here, but I am thinking about all the traffic we get on this list, so anything any of you can do to ease the transition, will be really appreciated. Smile. thanks. Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks.
I recently purchased a windows 8.1 tablet and installed jaws 16 on it. I have not used it much, so I still know very little. I did find an utility that provides a start menu option: it is called istartmenu. It is either free or shareware. It is accessible hth -Original Message- From: Louise Johnson Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks. Hi first I do use windows 8.1.1 and I find two things that help me and yes I use JAWS 16. One first using the desk top I have put the programs on it that I use all the time. Two I have put the most important ones on the task bar and use windows 1 up to windows 9 to get the ones and I put them in order of importants this makes it easy. I always have email in one and getting my documents there was hard but it is in two and then in three is Firefox and on and on. I love that I can open them in anywhere I am so in email I can open new word document or go anywhere else and go back by hitting email one again or use alt tab. I put on desk top things that are only used less often. I find that tab or shift tab is very helpful in some areas. If you have any questions ask for information and I will try to answer. One more thing that I use a lot is application key or on lap top computer shift f10. This is one of the areas you will find things to help you. Louise and Princess Kiara -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim rawls Sent: January 22, 2015 10:39 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one given to me in two weeks. If one, or some of you, who have windows 8.1 could give me some tips and tricks on how to use windows 8.1 with jaws 16, I would really appreciate it. I am a W7 computer user now, and I want windows 8.1 to be as easy to use as possible. You can write me off list, at, jazzpi...@ca.rr.com, or, post here, but I am thinking about all the traffic we get on this list, so anything any of you can do to ease the transition, will be really appreciated. Smile. thanks. Jim For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/