Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks.

2015-01-23 Thread David Ferrin
Thank you for a more in-depth description of the process. Imagine me
wondering how I would navigate to a web page, download a file to give my
tablet speech without having any in the first place. If I could do that
myself then you folks would be looking for another JAWS list because it
would be of no further use to me. 

So my thoughts that there would be no way at all a blind person could do it
themselves is basicly confirmed. I figure you have to place an ILM key on it
as well, he stated hoping for confirmation on that as well. 
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Kolwick
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to haveone
givento me in two weeks.

   Hello, someone else already described an option.  Someone sighted,
helped me do it.  I did download the program and put the file on a SD card
and hooked it up to the tablet and installed through this process.
You might also turn off the user account settings, where you have to give
permission to install new programs.  My friend found where to do this and he
did it.  I do not recall how he did it.

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to haveone
givento me in two weeks.

Would you mind describing the procedure for installing JAWS on a tablet. I
imagine it is something I could figure out, but since the wheel has already
been invented.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Kolwick
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one
givento me in two weeks.

  I recently purchased a windows 8.1 tablet and installed jaws 16 on it.

I have not used it much, so I still know very little.  I did find an utility
that provides a start menu option:  it is called istartmenu.  It is either
free or shareware.  It is accessible  hth


-Original Message-
From: Louise Johnson
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one
givento me in two weeks.

Hi first I do use windows 8.1.1 and I find two things that help me and yes I
use JAWS 16.

One first using the desk top I have put the programs on it that I use all
the time.

Two I have put the most important ones on the task bar and use windows 1 up
to windows 9 to get the ones and I put them in order of importants this
makes it easy.

I always have email in one and getting my documents there was hard but it is
in two and then in three is Firefox and on and on.

I love that I can open them in anywhere I am so in email I can open new word
document or go anywhere else and go back by hitting email one again or use
alt tab.

I put on desk top things that are only used less often.

I find that tab or shift tab is very helpful in some areas.

If you have any questions ask for information and I will try to answer. One
more thing that I use a lot is application key or on lap top computer shift
f10. This is one of the areas you will find things to help you.

Louise and Princess Kiara


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim rawls
Sent: January 22, 2015 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one given to
me in two weeks.

If one, or some of you, who have windows 8.1 could give me some tips and
tricks on how to use windows 8.1 with jaws 16, I would really appreciate it.
I am a W7 computer user now, and I want windows 8.1 to be as easy to use as
possible. You can write me off list, at, jazzpi...@ca.rr.com, or, post here,
but I am thinking about all the traffic we get on this list, so anything any
of you can do to ease the transition, will be really appreciated. Smile.
thanks. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks.

2015-01-23 Thread Blackwell, Clifford
I would assume you could get the process started by using Narrato which, in 
Windows 8.1, is supposed to be easier to work with than in previous versions of 
Windows.r

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 11:59 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento 
me in two weeks.

Thank you for a more in-depth description of the process. Imagine me wondering 
how I would navigate to a web page, download a file to give my tablet speech 
without having any in the first place. If I could do that myself then you folks 
would be looking for another JAWS list because it would be of no further use to 
me. 

So my thoughts that there would be no way at all a blind person could do it 
themselves is basicly confirmed. I figure you have to place an ILM key on it as 
well, he stated hoping for confirmation on that as well. 
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a 
simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of John Kolwick
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to haveone givento 
me in two weeks.

   Hello, someone else already described an option.  Someone sighted, 
helped me do it.  I did download the program and put the file on a SD card and 
hooked it up to the tablet and installed through this process.
You might also turn off the user account settings, where you have to give 
permission to install new programs.  My friend found where to do this and he 
did it.  I do not recall how he did it.

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to haveone givento 
me in two weeks.

Would you mind describing the procedure for installing JAWS on a tablet. I 
imagine it is something I could figure out, but since the wheel has already 
been invented.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a 
simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of John Kolwick
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento 
me in two weeks.

  I recently purchased a windows 8.1 tablet and installed jaws 16 on it.

I have not used it much, so I still know very little.  I did find an utility 
that provides a start menu option:  it is called istartmenu.  It is either 
free or shareware.  It is accessible  hth


-Original Message-
From: Louise Johnson
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento 
me in two weeks.

Hi first I do use windows 8.1.1 and I find two things that help me and yes I 
use JAWS 16.

One first using the desk top I have put the programs on it that I use all the 
time.

Two I have put the most important ones on the task bar and use windows 1 up to 
windows 9 to get the ones and I put them in order of importants this makes it 
easy.

I always have email in one and getting my documents there was hard but it is in 
two and then in three is Firefox and on and on.

I love that I can open them in anywhere I am so in email I can open new word 
document or go anywhere else and go back by hitting email one again or use alt 
tab.

I put on desk top things that are only used less often.

I find that tab or shift tab is very helpful in some areas.

If you have any questions ask for information and I will try to answer. One 
more thing that I use a lot is application key or on lap top computer shift 
f10. This is one of the areas you will find things to help you.

Louise and Princess Kiara


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf 
Of jim rawls
Sent: January 22, 2015 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one given to me 
in two weeks.

If one, or some of you, who have windows 8.1 could give me some tips and tricks 
on how to use windows 8.1 with jaws 16, I would really appreciate it.
I am a W7 computer user now, and I want windows 8.1 to be as easy to use as 
possible. You can write me off list, at, jazzpi...@ca.rr.com, or, post here, 
but I am thinking about all the traffic we get on this list, so anything any of 
you can do to ease the transition, will be really appreciated. Smile.
thanks. Jim

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http

Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks.

2015-01-23 Thread Mike O'Brien
Hi

Not only installing JAWS would be difficult, but I assume you have to go
through the Windows setup screens first.  If there was a keyboard attached
to the tablet, you could start Narrator to install JAWS by pressing
WindowsKey+r for the run dialog and typing Narrator and pressing enter.  I
would have the JAWS installation file on a SD card or USB drive instead of
downloading it onto the tablet.  For the Windows setup screens for Windows
7, I saw that you could open the Ease of Access center at the first setup
screen and Narrator would read the choices as you tabbed through the dialog.
So if you tabbed to Narrator and press enter Narrator would be running for
the whole setup.  So hopefully, this would also work in Windows 8.1 for the
setup screens.  I think I used WindowsKey+u to open the Ease of Access
Center for the Windows setup screens, but I'm not real sure.  However, if
there's no keyboard attached, I don't believe it could be done without
sight. I saw some instructions for starting Narrator without a keyboard, but
they required you to swipe in a particular spot and then touch a certain
charm bar.  You have to install an ILM key on the tablet.  But you don't
have to do that until you start JAWS after it is installed, so there would
be speech.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:59
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one
givento me in two weeks.

Thank you for a more in-depth description of the process. Imagine me
wondering how I would navigate to a web page, download a file to give my
tablet speech without having any in the first place. If I could do that
myself then you folks would be looking for another JAWS list because it
would be of no further use to me. 

So my thoughts that there would be no way at all a blind person could do it
themselves is basicly confirmed. I figure you have to place an ILM key on it
as well, he stated hoping for confirmation on that as well. 
David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Kolwick
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 12:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to haveone
givento me in two weeks.

   Hello, someone else already described an option.  Someone sighted,
helped me do it.  I did download the program and put the file on a SD card
and hooked it up to the tablet and installed through this process.
You might also turn off the user account settings, where you have to give
permission to install new programs.  My friend found where to do this and he
did it.  I do not recall how he did it.

-Original Message-
From: David Ferrin
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 6:56 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to haveone
givento me in two weeks.

Would you mind describing the procedure for installing JAWS on a tablet. I
imagine it is something I could figure out, but since the wheel has already
been invented.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Kolwick
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one
givento me in two weeks.

  I recently purchased a windows 8.1 tablet and installed jaws 16 on it.

I have not used it much, so I still know very little.  I did find an utility
that provides a start menu option:  it is called istartmenu.  It is either
free or shareware.  It is accessible  hth


-Original Message-
From: Louise Johnson
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one
givento me in two weeks.

Hi first I do use windows 8.1.1 and I find two things that help me and yes I
use JAWS 16.

One first using the desk top I have put the programs on it that I use all
the time.

Two I have put the most important ones on the task bar and use windows 1 up
to windows 9 to get the ones and I put them in order of importants this
makes it easy.

I always have email in one and getting my documents there was hard but it is
in two and then in three is Firefox and on and on.

I love that I can open them in anywhere I am so in email I can open new word
document or go anywhere else and go back by hitting email one again or use
alt tab.

I put on desk top things that are only used less often.

I find that tab or shift tab is very helpful in some areas.

If you

Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks.

2015-01-23 Thread Alan Robbins
David,
You could simply go to the FS website and download the file and install that 
way or copy the executable file to the documents folder on the tablet and then 
just click on that and install that way. I did this with my Dell pro eight but 
I did use and external Bluetooth keyboard

 Best,
Alan

 On Jan 23, 2015, at 06:56, David Ferrin ow...@jaws-users.com wrote:
 
 Would you mind describing the procedure for installing JAWS on a tablet. I
 imagine it is something I could figure out, but since the wheel has already
 been invented.
 
 David Ferrin
 A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
 a simpler system that worked perfectly.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of John Kolwick
 Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:54 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one
 givento me in two weeks.
 
  I recently purchased a windows 8.1 tablet and installed jaws 16 on it.
 
 I have not used it much, so I still know very little.  I did find an utility
 that provides a start menu option:  it is called istartmenu.  It is either
 free or shareware.  It is accessible  hth
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Louise Johnson
 Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one
 givento me in two weeks.
 
 Hi first I do use windows 8.1.1 and I find two things that help me and yes I
 use JAWS 16.
 
 One first using the desk top I have put the programs on it that I use all
 the time.
 
 Two I have put the most important ones on the task bar and use windows 1 up
 to windows 9 to get the ones and I put them in order of importants this
 makes it easy.
 
 I always have email in one and getting my documents there was hard but it is
 in two and then in three is Firefox and on and on.
 
 I love that I can open them in anywhere I am so in email I can open new word
 document or go anywhere else and go back by hitting email one again or use
 alt tab.
 
 I put on desk top things that are only used less often.
 
 I find that tab or shift tab is very helpful in some areas.
 
 If you have any questions ask for information and I will try to answer. One
 more thing that I use a lot is application key or on lap top computer shift
 f10. This is one of the areas you will find things to help you.
 
 Louise and Princess Kiara
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
 Behalf Of jim rawls
 Sent: January 22, 2015 10:39 AM
 To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
 Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one given to
 me in two weeks.
 
 If one, or some of you, who have windows 8.1 could give me some tips and
 tricks on how to use windows 8.1 with jaws 16, I would really appreciate it.
 I am a W7 computer user now, and I want windows 8.1 to be as easy to use as
 possible. You can write me off list, at, jazzpi...@ca.rr.com, or, post here,
 but I am thinking about all the traffic we get on this list, so anything any
 of you can do to ease the transition, will be really appreciated. Smile.
 thanks. Jim
 
 For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
 http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
 
 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks.

2015-01-23 Thread David Ferrin
Would you mind describing the procedure for installing JAWS on a tablet. I
imagine it is something I could figure out, but since the wheel has already
been invented.

David Ferrin
A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from
a simpler system that worked perfectly.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of John Kolwick
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 9:54 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one
givento me in two weeks.

  I recently purchased a windows 8.1 tablet and installed jaws 16 on it.

I have not used it much, so I still know very little.  I did find an utility
that provides a start menu option:  it is called istartmenu.  It is either
free or shareware.  It is accessible  hth


-Original Message-
From: Louise Johnson
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one
givento me in two weeks.

Hi first I do use windows 8.1.1 and I find two things that help me and yes I
use JAWS 16.

One first using the desk top I have put the programs on it that I use all
the time.

Two I have put the most important ones on the task bar and use windows 1 up
to windows 9 to get the ones and I put them in order of importants this
makes it easy.

I always have email in one and getting my documents there was hard but it is
in two and then in three is Firefox and on and on.

I love that I can open them in anywhere I am so in email I can open new word
document or go anywhere else and go back by hitting email one again or use
alt tab.

I put on desk top things that are only used less often.

I find that tab or shift tab is very helpful in some areas.

If you have any questions ask for information and I will try to answer. One
more thing that I use a lot is application key or on lap top computer shift
f10. This is one of the areas you will find things to help you.

Louise and Princess Kiara


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim rawls
Sent: January 22, 2015 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one given to
me in two weeks.

If one, or some of you, who have windows 8.1 could give me some tips and
tricks on how to use windows 8.1 with jaws 16, I would really appreciate it.
I am a W7 computer user now, and I want windows 8.1 to be as easy to use as
possible. You can write me off list, at, jazzpi...@ca.rr.com, or, post here,
but I am thinking about all the traffic we get on this list, so anything any
of you can do to ease the transition, will be really appreciated. Smile.
thanks. Jim

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Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one givento me in two weeks.

2015-01-22 Thread John Kolwick
 I recently purchased a windows 8.1 tablet and installed jaws 16 on it. 
I have not used it much, so I still know very little.  I did find an utility 
that provides a start menu option:  it is called istartmenu.  It is either 
free or shareware.  It is accessible  hth



-Original Message- 
From: Louise Johnson

Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 7:32 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one 
givento me in two weeks.


Hi first I do use windows 8.1.1 and I find two things that help me and yes I
use JAWS 16.

One first using the desk top I have put the programs on it that I use all
the time.

Two I have put the most important ones on the task bar and use windows 1 up
to windows 9 to get the ones and I put them in order of importants this
makes it easy.

I always have email in one and getting my documents there was hard but it is
in two and then in three is Firefox and on and on.

I love that I can open them in anywhere I am so in email I can open new word
document or go anywhere else and go back by hitting email one again or use
alt tab.

I put on desk top things that are only used less often.

I find that tab or shift tab is very helpful in some areas.

If you have any questions ask for information and I will try to answer. One
more thing that I use a lot is application key or on lap top computer shift
f10. This is one of the areas you will find things to help you.

Louise and Princess Kiara


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of jim rawls
Sent: January 22, 2015 10:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] windows 8.1 computer. I am going to have one given to
me in two weeks.

If one, or some of you, who have windows 8.1 could give me some tips and
tricks on how to use windows 8.1 with jaws 16, I would really appreciate it.
I am a W7 computer user now, and I want windows 8.1 to be as easy to use as
possible. You can write me off list, at, jazzpi...@ca.rr.com, or, post here,
but I am thinking about all the traffic we get on this list, so anything any
of you can do to ease the transition, will be really appreciated. Smile.
thanks. Jim

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