Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-11 Thread Vicki W. 

it's the latest, and it's there for other .pdf documents, just not these 3.


- Original Message - 
From: "David G. Carlson Via iPhone" <dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


Have you updated to the latest version of jaws 2018? That feature came 
late in the rollout.


Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 10, 2018, at 2:53 PM, net bat66 <netba...@gmail.com> wrote:

check your jaws version again.
this option is not available with version 18.0
only with version 2018.
they are not the same version.
you do not open the files with adobe.
you highlight them from the file list then open a context menu on them
to use the Recognize with JAWS  option. but only with jaws 2018.

-Original Message- From: Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 
documents.



- Original Message - From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use 
recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.


-Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

- Original Message - From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-11 Thread Vicki W. 
I have never used 18. Didn't like it. This is 2018. I'm guessing it's not 
there because it's imbedded text in an image.



- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



check your jaws version again.
this option is not available with version 18.0
only with version 2018.
they are not the same version.
you do not open the files with adobe.
you highlight them from the file list then open a context menu on them
to use the Recognize with JAWS  option. but only with jaws 2018.

-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 
documents.



- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use 
recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-10 Thread David G. Carlson Via iPhone 
Have you updated to the latest version of jaws 2018? That feature came late in 
the rollout.

Dave

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 10, 2018, at 2:53 PM, net bat66 <netba...@gmail.com> wrote:

check your jaws version again.
this option is not available with version 18.0
only with version 2018.
they are not the same version.
you do not open the files with adobe.
you highlight them from the file list then open a context menu on them
to use the Recognize with JAWS  option. but only with jaws 2018.

-Original Message- From: Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 documents.


- Original Message - From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


> none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
> its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use 
> recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.
> 
> -Original Message- From: Dave...Oregonian
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018
> 
> What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
> remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:
> 
> Insert+Spacebar
> Release to hear a click sound
> Press the letter O
> release
> Press the letter D
> release
> You should hear a response that it is working
> 
> I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.
> 
> Dave
> Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer
> 
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018
> 
> 
> That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
> window opens.
> 
> The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
> difference?
> 
> Vicki
> 
> ----- Original Message - From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>
> To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018
> 
> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
>> (without the quotes).
>> This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
>> scan, depending on the size of your document.
>> The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
>> If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
>> text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.
>> 
>> Reed
>> -Original Message-
>> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
>> Behalf Of Vicki W.
>> Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
>> To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
>> Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018
>> 
>> I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
>> 2018 to read them?
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> Vicki
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>> 
>> 
>> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
>> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
> For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit:
> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
> 
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
> 
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-10 Thread net bat66 

check your jaws version again.
this option is not available with version 18.0
only with version 2018.
they are not the same version.
you do not open the files with adobe.
you highlight them from the file list then open a context menu on them
to use the Recognize with JAWS  option. but only with jaws 2018.

-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:03 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 documents.


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use 
recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-10 Thread Vicki W. 

Recognize with JAWS is not in the context menu for any of these 3 documents.


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and 
use recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-10 Thread Andy Baracco 

Text that is embedded in an image, such as a stop sign, would not be read.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other 
window opens.


The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a 
difference?


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-10 Thread net bat66 

none of this is  needed with jaws 2018.
its easier to just go to the file and open a context menu on it and use 
recognize with jaws. without haveing to open it in adobe reader.


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:21 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-10 Thread net bat66 

they said jaws 2018.
no, note pad is not needed to read the text.
i just for got to delete the note pad reference when i was editing what i was 
going to say. grin
but you do need to use note pad if you want to save the ocr text, by useing 
copy and paste to copy the text into note pad.

***


-Original Message- 
From: Dave...Oregonian

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:29 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

That seems a bit vague, even to me. Do you bring up the file list in the
"Open" dialog of Notepad? If so, you also need to change the file type to
"all files" to see any PDF document.

I'm thinking that your idea is based on JAWS 2018 with the capability to
recognize a PDF file directly from a file list in Windows Explorer, and not
opening it. If so, then Notepad has nothing to do with the process -- the
virtual viewer will come up without having Notepad open.

I'm not sure the requester has said what version of JAWS is being used.

Also the context menu that pops up does not say "OCR" it instead says
"Recognize with JAWS".

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:17
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


easy.
open note pad then go to your files. but don't open them.
open a context menu on them and use the ocr option and wait a few seconds
for
it to process the text.
do not press  the escape key or it will close. then you can  view the text
of
the pdf file.
the acuracy of the text depends on how much video errors there are in the
scanned image.



-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018
to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-10 Thread Dave...Oregonian 
That seems a bit vague, even to me. Do you bring up the file list in the 
"Open" dialog of Notepad? If so, you also need to change the file type to 
"all files" to see any PDF document.

I'm thinking that your idea is based on JAWS 2018 with the capability to 
recognize a PDF file directly from a file list in Windows Explorer, and not 
opening it. If so, then Notepad has nothing to do with the process -- the 
virtual viewer will come up without having Notepad open.

I'm not sure the requester has said what version of JAWS is being used.

Also the context menu that pops up does not say "OCR" it instead says 
"Recognize with JAWS".

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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From: "net bat66" <netba...@gmail.com>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:17
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


easy.
open note pad then go to your files. but don't open them.
open a context menu on them and use the ocr option and wait a few seconds 
for
it to process the text.
do not press  the escape key or it will close. then you can  view the text 
of
the pdf file.
the acuracy of the text depends on how much video errors there are in the
scanned image.



-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS 
2018
to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-10 Thread Dave...Oregonian 
What version of JAWS? You need to have the document open in Adobe, then 
remember that the convenient OCR keystrokes are:

Insert+Spacebar
Release to hear a click sound
Press the letter O
release
Press the letter D
release
You should hear a response that it is working

I recall that this was available in JAWS 17 or later.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


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From: "Vicki W." <vwher...@comcast.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

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From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018


> Hi Vicki,
>
> After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
> (without the quotes).
> This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
> scan, depending on the size of your document.
> The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
> If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
> text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.
>
> Reed
> -Original Message-
> From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
> Behalf Of Vicki W.
> Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
> To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
> Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018
>
> I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
> 2018 to read them?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Vicki
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> http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
>
>
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-10 Thread net bat66 
you have to wait. like a 200 page pdf file can take over 1 minute to process. 
and jaws will  make a tone while you are waiting until it has finished.


-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 11:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other
window opens.

The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a
difference?

Vicki

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From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-10 Thread net bat66 

easy.
open note pad then go to your files. but don't open them.
open a context menu on them and use the ocr option and wait a few seconds for 
it to process the text.
do not press  the escape key or it will close. then you can  view the text of 
the pdf file.
the acuracy of the text depends on how much video errors there are in the 
scanned image.




-Original Message- 
From: Vicki W.

Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS 2018 
to read them?


Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-10 Thread Vicki W. 
That's not working. It still continues to say empty document and no other 
window opens.


The particular pdf does contain images and print. Would that make a 
difference?


Vicki

- Original Message - 
From: "Reed" <reed.poyn...@telus.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018



Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer.
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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Re: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

2018-01-10 Thread Reed 
Hi Vicki,

After opening the "empty" pdf, hit JAWSKey+spacebar followed by "od"
(without the quotes).
This invokes the OCR document scan.  It will take a bit of time for the
scan, depending on the size of your document.
The result is then displayed in the virtual viewer. 
If you wanted to, once the scan is complete, you could select all of the
text, copy it to the clipboard and paste it into a text file.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: January 10, 2018 9:47 AM
To: JAWS 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] reading empty PDF document with JAWS 2018

I have several .PDF documents showing up as empty, so how can I get JAWS
2018 to read them?

Thanks.

Vicki
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