Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
Hi. I'll back this one, the problem that this is being caused by is that the scripts that work for the win7 win 8 environment aren't getting changed to be scripts for the win10 environment. For best results that having been said, when you do uninstall jaws, it might be necessary to have jaws remove the user settings also. Hopefully that'll ensure that the outdated scripts will be removed. I don't know for a fact that removal of the settings is necessary, I've only troubleshooted the difficulties once and didn't have a good idea what might be causing it from the get go so I ended up fixing things in a rather round-about manner. If anyone tries this, and still has odd behavior with areas like the start screen, it might actually be necessary to delete the %appdata%/freedom scientific/jaws/16.0/settings folder. Speaking to the writer of the message I'm replying to, what did you do choice wise when uninstalling, remove user settings or no. Is that all you had to do, no manual deletion of settings files to force it to recreate proper ones? Cheers, Aaron Spears, general Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates Developing "very good audiogames" for the blind community http://valiantGalaxy.com Sent with Thunderbird 38.2.0 portable On 9/22/2015 11:35 AM, jim wrote: Hi Scorpio, We are not talking about weather Jaws 16 or 17, will work on a w-8.1 computer, which was upgraded to w-10, of course it will. I am simply stating,If you want Jaws 16 or 17, to run at a maximum efficiency,You should follow Microsoft advice, to reinstall Jaws or whatever, screen reader you use. I am aware of what Freedom Scientific says about not having to reinstall Jaws on a w-10 computer upgraded from 8.1, I happen to disagree with them on this issue. The main area's that it helps with a fresh install of Jaws 16 or 17, in w-10, are. The Start button edit region. The live tile region. The All apps region. Using different apps. Some places in Settings. A general, increase and response, of the snappyness of jaws in all area's of w-10. So, no pissing contest, just a general disagreement about reinstalling Jaws on a w-10 computer, for maximum efficiency., I say for a smoother running and more responsive computer, that you should reinstall Jaws after upgrading to w-10, like Microsoft recommends. You, say, leave it alone, because Freedom Scientific told you too. You say, you have upgraded 46, Windows 8.1 computers, Do you work at a computer store or what? If so, you have some sluggish computers running w-10 and Jaws! Seriously, How long does it take to reinstall Jaws? Not long! and you will have a more stable experience with Jaws on your w-10 computer... Have a nice day... -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Jim, with all due respect, both my experience and Freedom Scientific state that a re-install of Jaws 16 is not necessary from Windows 8.1 to 10. I meant no offence by my statement, I was simply stating a facts as released by Freedom Scientific and my own experience installing Windows 10 on 46 computers to date, all of which were using Windows 8.1. This is not a spitting contest, just one person passing information on to another. I'm glad your experiences are vast, and you can offer as much experience as you can to the list, after all, that's what this list is here for, but I will not curtail my passing on of knowledge simply because you feel I am berating you for something I never berated you for. Anyway, what matters is that the person got their installation of Windows 10 done using both our experiences, so let's be thankful, and leave it at that. Scorpio -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Scorpio, Jaws will work OK, but not as well as it should, unless you install it new and fresh in w-10. I speak from experience. I have upgraded two w-7, and two w-8.1 computers, from beginning to end. This includes customizing them as well. The Start button, and search edit field, and the live tile region are effected negatively, unless you reinstall Jaws. I have assisted in many other upgrades. Do not tell me I am wrong, Microsoft recommends, any users of Screen reading software, to uninstall and reinstall them. So, if you want a smooth running w-10 computer with Jaws 16 or 17, you should follow Microsoft recommendation. Just helping people get the most out of w-10 with Jaws... How much experience do you have in upgrading computers to w-10? When I give out instructions, I try to give them out as if everyone was on their own with no sited help. I have a great respect for those who are making it alone. Each day is a challenge for all blind people, more so, when you are alone. So, I research my answers w
Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
No, you do not have to remove user's settings, unless you want to. You do not have to, delete any Jaws related files. Run the Jaws tool to prepare your w-7 or w-8.1 computer for w-10. Here are my steps for upgrading to w-10. Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350 or Jaws 17, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Tip, after running the F S tool, any time you restart your computer, you will get a message from Jaws saying:. The mirror drivers are configured incorrectly, press the spacebar on this message. In w-10, Jaws does not use the mirror drivers, that is the reason for this message. Next, Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop in your new w-10 PC. Now, this is very important, uninstall and reinstall jaws 16 or 17. This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 environment. Tips on how to do this. Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17. Say yes, for your user’s account message. Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings. If the Jaws dialog does not tell you to restart, Turn Narrator on, Windows key+enter, restart your computer. Wait the appropriate time for restarting, turn Narrator back on, Windows key+enter. Go to your download folder where you have already put the latest Jaws 16 or 17, set up file. Press enter on the Jaws setup file. Follow the Jaws prompts, to install Jaws 16 or 17. After reinstalling jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. All your other settings will be remembered by Jaws. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. In w-8.1, this method usually works the first time. In w-7, you may have to repeat this method two times. It is a little more difficult going from w-7, to w-10, then from w-8.1 to w-10. There are more drivers which much be updated by Microsoft for your w-7 computer to upgrade to w-10. After completing your upgrade to w-10, see my text file, on customizing w-10 with Jaws. -Original Message- From: valiant8086 Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:18 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi. I'll back this one, the problem that this is being caused by is that the scripts that work for the win7 win 8 environment aren't getting changed to be scripts for the win10 environment. For best results that having been said, when you do uninstall jaws, it might be necessary to have jaws remove the user settings also. Hopefully that'll ensure that the outdated scripts will be removed. I don't know for a fact that removal of the settings is necessary, I've only troubleshooted the difficulties once and didn't have a good idea what might be causing it from the get go so I ended up fixing things in a rather round-about manner. If anyone
Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
does windows 10 narrator work with windows 7? - Original Message - From: "jim" <buckeye...@wowway.com To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date sent: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 17:39:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions No, you do not have to remove user's settings, unless you want to. You do not have to, delete any Jaws related files. Run the Jaws tool to prepare your w-7 or w-8.1 computer for w-10. Here are my steps for upgrading to w-10. Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows 10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350 or Jaws 17, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Tip, after running the F S tool, any time you restart your computer, you will get a message from Jaws saying:. The mirror drivers are configured incorrectly, press the spacebar on this message. In w-10, Jaws does not use the mirror drivers, that is the reason for this message. Next, Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop in your new w-10 PC. Now, this is very important, uninstall and reinstall jaws 16 or 17. This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 environment. Tips on how to do this. Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17. Say yes, for your user�셲 account message. Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
No, only with w-10... -Original Message- From: petras Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 5:42 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions does windows 10 narrator work with windows 7? - Original Message - From: "jim" <buckeye...@wowway.com To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date sent: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 17:39:17 -0400 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions No, you do not have to remove user's settings, unless you want to. You do not have to, delete any Jaws related files. Run the Jaws tool to prepare your w-7 or w-8.1 computer for w-10. Here are my steps for upgrading to w-10. Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16 or 17. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows 10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350 or Jaws 17, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Tip, after running the F S tool, any time you restart your computer, you will get a message from Jaws saying:. The mirror drivers are configured incorrectly, press the spacebar on this message. In w-10, Jaws does not use the mirror drivers, that is the reason for this message. Next, Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop in your new w-10 PC. Now, this is very important, uninstall and reinstall jaws 16 or 17. This will give you the maximum performance in the w-10 environment. Tips on how to do this. Go to programs and features, press enter on Jaws 16 or 17. Say yes, for your user?셲 account message. Uninstall Jaws, Keeping shared settings and personal settings For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ Join our new yahoo group, Windows 10 and jaws at: windows-10-and-jaws-subscr...@yahoogroups.co.in A Ballast for My Soul Life is like a stormy sea That tosses to and fro, But God's Word will ever be A ballast for my soul. By its truth I'll be held fast Till I reach heaven's shore Where I will be home at last And sail life's sea no more! author: Perry Boardman THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYES First College football Playoff National champions!!! GO BUCKS!!! For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
Well, on one machine, I had to reinstall Jaws and Window-Eyes. On the other machine, I didn't have to. One machine is Windows 7 32 bit and the other is a 64 bit machine. On 9/21/2015 10:30 PM, Scorpio Forever wrote: Jim, with all due respect, both my experience and Freedom Scientific state that a re-install of Jaws 16 is not necessary from Windows 8.1 to 10. I meant no offence by my statement, I was simply stating a facts as released by Freedom Scientific and my own experience installing Windows 10 on 46 computers to date, all of which were using Windows 8.1. This is not a spitting contest, just one person passing information on to another. I'm glad your experiences are vast, and you can offer as much experience as you can to the list, after all, that's what this list is here for, but I will not curtail my passing on of knowledge simply because you feel I am berating you for something I never berated you for. Anyway, what matters is that the person got their installation of Windows 10 done using both our experiences, so let's be thankful, and leave it at that. Scorpio -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Scorpio, Jaws will work OK, but not as well as it should, unless you install it new and fresh in w-10. I speak from experience. I have upgraded two w-7, and two w-8.1 computers, from beginning to end. This includes customizing them as well. The Start button, and search edit field, and the live tile region are effected negatively, unless you reinstall Jaws. I have assisted in many other upgrades. Do not tell me I am wrong, Microsoft recommends, any users of Screen reading software, to uninstall and reinstall them. So, if you want a smooth running w-10 computer with Jaws 16 or 17, you should follow Microsoft recommendation. Just helping people get the most out of w-10 with Jaws... How much experience do you have in upgrading computers to w-10? When I give out instructions, I try to give them out as if everyone was on their own with no sited help. I have a great respect for those who are making it alone. Each day is a challenge for all blind people, more so, when you are alone. So, I research my answers when I give a step by step guide, as if each blind person were doing the steps by themselves with no sited help. This way hopefully, they will not have any problems. So, again, its not a matter of being right about reinstalling Jaws, it’s a matter of getting max performance out of Jaws 16 and 17 on your w-10 computer. Have a nice day... -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Jim, Your information is incorrect. Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10. No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should come up working after the installation. You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using. Hope this helps. Scorpio -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When
Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
Hi Scorpio, We are not talking about weather Jaws 16 or 17, will work on a w-8.1 computer, which was upgraded to w-10, of course it will. I am simply stating,If you want Jaws 16 or 17, to run at a maximum efficiency,You should follow Microsoft advice, to reinstall Jaws or whatever, screen reader you use. I am aware of what Freedom Scientific says about not having to reinstall Jaws on a w-10 computer upgraded from 8.1, I happen to disagree with them on this issue. The main area's that it helps with a fresh install of Jaws 16 or 17, in w-10, are. The Start button edit region. The live tile region. The All apps region. Using different apps. Some places in Settings. A general, increase and response, of the snappyness of jaws in all area's of w-10. So, no pissing contest, just a general disagreement about reinstalling Jaws on a w-10 computer, for maximum efficiency., I say for a smoother running and more responsive computer, that you should reinstall Jaws after upgrading to w-10, like Microsoft recommends. You, say, leave it alone, because Freedom Scientific told you too. You say, you have upgraded 46, Windows 8.1 computers, Do you work at a computer store or what? If so, you have some sluggish computers running w-10 and Jaws! Seriously, How long does it take to reinstall Jaws? Not long! and you will have a more stable experience with Jaws on your w-10 computer... Have a nice day... -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:30 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Jim, with all due respect, both my experience and Freedom Scientific state that a re-install of Jaws 16 is not necessary from Windows 8.1 to 10. I meant no offence by my statement, I was simply stating a facts as released by Freedom Scientific and my own experience installing Windows 10 on 46 computers to date, all of which were using Windows 8.1. This is not a spitting contest, just one person passing information on to another. I'm glad your experiences are vast, and you can offer as much experience as you can to the list, after all, that's what this list is here for, but I will not curtail my passing on of knowledge simply because you feel I am berating you for something I never berated you for. Anyway, what matters is that the person got their installation of Windows 10 done using both our experiences, so let's be thankful, and leave it at that. Scorpio -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Scorpio, Jaws will work OK, but not as well as it should, unless you install it new and fresh in w-10. I speak from experience. I have upgraded two w-7, and two w-8.1 computers, from beginning to end. This includes customizing them as well. The Start button, and search edit field, and the live tile region are effected negatively, unless you reinstall Jaws. I have assisted in many other upgrades. Do not tell me I am wrong, Microsoft recommends, any users of Screen reading software, to uninstall and reinstall them. So, if you want a smooth running w-10 computer with Jaws 16 or 17, you should follow Microsoft recommendation. Just helping people get the most out of w-10 with Jaws... How much experience do you have in upgrading computers to w-10? When I give out instructions, I try to give them out as if everyone was on their own with no sited help. I have a great respect for those who are making it alone. Each day is a challenge for all blind people, more so, when you are alone. So, I research my answers when I give a step by step guide, as if each blind person were doing the steps by themselves with no sited help. This way hopefully, they will not have any problems. So, again, its not a matter of being right about reinstalling Jaws, it’s a matter of getting max performance out of Jaws 16 and 17 on your w-10 computer. Have a nice day... -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Jim, Your information is incorrect. Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10. No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should come up working after the installation. You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using. Hope this helps. Scorpio -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com
Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
Jim, with all due respect, both my experience and Freedom Scientific state that a re-install of Jaws 16 is not necessary from Windows 8.1 to 10. I meant no offence by my statement, I was simply stating a facts as released by Freedom Scientific and my own experience installing Windows 10 on 46 computers to date, all of which were using Windows 8.1. This is not a spitting contest, just one person passing information on to another. I'm glad your experiences are vast, and you can offer as much experience as you can to the list, after all, that's what this list is here for, but I will not curtail my passing on of knowledge simply because you feel I am berating you for something I never berated you for. Anyway, what matters is that the person got their installation of Windows 10 done using both our experiences, so let's be thankful, and leave it at that. Scorpio -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 11:50 AM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Scorpio, Jaws will work OK, but not as well as it should, unless you install it new and fresh in w-10. I speak from experience. I have upgraded two w-7, and two w-8.1 computers, from beginning to end. This includes customizing them as well. The Start button, and search edit field, and the live tile region are effected negatively, unless you reinstall Jaws. I have assisted in many other upgrades. Do not tell me I am wrong, Microsoft recommends, any users of Screen reading software, to uninstall and reinstall them. So, if you want a smooth running w-10 computer with Jaws 16 or 17, you should follow Microsoft recommendation. Just helping people get the most out of w-10 with Jaws... How much experience do you have in upgrading computers to w-10? When I give out instructions, I try to give them out as if everyone was on their own with no sited help. I have a great respect for those who are making it alone. Each day is a challenge for all blind people, more so, when you are alone. So, I research my answers when I give a step by step guide, as if each blind person were doing the steps by themselves with no sited help. This way hopefully, they will not have any problems. So, again, its not a matter of being right about reinstalling Jaws, it’s a matter of getting max performance out of Jaws 16 and 17 on your w-10 computer. Have a nice day... -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Jim, Your information is incorrect. Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10. No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should come up working after the installation. You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using. Hope this helps. Scorpio -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next
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Hi Scorpio, Jaws will work OK, but not as well as it should, unless you install it new and fresh in w-10. I speak from experience. I have upgraded two w-7, and two w-8.1 computers, from beginning to end. This includes customizing them as well. The Start button, and search edit field, and the live tile region are effected negatively, unless you reinstall Jaws. I have assisted in many other upgrades. Do not tell me I am wrong, Microsoft recommends, any users of Screen reading software, to uninstall and reinstall them. So, if you want a smooth running w-10 computer with Jaws 16 or 17, you should follow Microsoft recommendation. Just helping people get the most out of w-10 with Jaws... How much experience do you have in upgrading computers to w-10? When I give out instructions, I try to give them out as if everyone was on their own with no sited help. I have a great respect for those who are making it alone. Each day is a challenge for all blind people, more so, when you are alone. So, I research my answers when I give a step by step guide, as if each blind person were doing the steps by themselves with no sited help. This way hopefully, they will not have any problems. So, again, its not a matter of being right about reinstalling Jaws, it’s a matter of getting max performance out of Jaws 16 and 17 on your w-10 computer. Have a nice day... -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Jim, Your information is incorrect. Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10. No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should come up working after the installation. You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using. Hope this helps. Scorpio -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
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Hi Dacia, If you follow my step by step instruction on the previous email. You should have no problems. As far as backing up. go to your, users folder on your C: drive. Do a copy, Control+c. Go to your external drive main tree, press Control+v, to paste your users file there as a backup of your files... c -Original Message- From: Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 9:50 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Okay, Thank you so much. So do I still need to download the utility tool and such even though I don't need to download JAWS as I'm running the latest version of JAWS 16? thanks, Dacia On 9/20/15, Scorpio Forever <scorpio...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Dacia, Windows has a fairly good back-up utility that is very reliable. You can choose to make a back-up of your files, settings, or a complete image back-up of your computer, including operating system, settings, files and apps. There's a web page that gives you step by step instructions on how to do this below. Hope this helps. http://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-full-backup-windows-pc Scorpio -Original Message- From: Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Yes, Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful. I plan to upgrade soon. The part of my question that didn't get answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose things? I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be. (smiles) thanks, Dacia On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins <arobb...@blindhandyman.net> wrote: Jim, Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more coffee (smile) Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi ndows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@ja
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Hi Lynn, Yes, you should uninstall and reinstall Jaws 16 or 17, after upgrading to w-10. There are places where it will not work well in w-10, Jaws needs to be freshly installed. Keep your shared components and keep your settings. After reinstalling jaws, you do not have to restart your computer. There are two settings you need to check. Reset your short cut key for Jaws, Control+ALT+j. Make sure that Jaws is checked, to come on at the log on screen. All your other settings will remain as they were. Hope this helps... -Original Message- From: Lynn White Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 10:09 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions My version of Jaws came back up just fine. Is it still necessary to go on the FS page and reinstall? Thanks. On 9/20/2015 7:04 PM, Alan Robbins wrote: Jim, Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more coffee (smile) Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi ndows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring the windows 10 and jaws list, is no. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi, I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10. I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to windows 10 today. One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive? Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10? I'm currently using windows 8.1 with JAWS 16 on a Lenovo laptop. thanks, Dacia For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit
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hey jim, have you seen jaws after windows 10 upgrade and reinstall start having issues with the pc cursor? On 9/21/2015 9:50 AM, jim wrote: Hi Scorpio, Jaws will work OK, but not as well as it should, unless you install it new and fresh in w-10. I speak from experience. I have upgraded two w-7, and two w-8.1 computers, from beginning to end. This includes customizing them as well. The Start button, and search edit field, and the live tile region are effected negatively, unless you reinstall Jaws. I have assisted in many other upgrades. Do not tell me I am wrong, Microsoft recommends, any users of Screen reading software, to uninstall and reinstall them. So, if you want a smooth running w-10 computer with Jaws 16 or 17, you should follow Microsoft recommendation. Just helping people get the most out of w-10 with Jaws... How much experience do you have in upgrading computers to w-10? When I give out instructions, I try to give them out as if everyone was on their own with no sited help. I have a great respect for those who are making it alone. Each day is a challenge for all blind people, more so, when you are alone. So, I research my answers when I give a step by step guide, as if each blind person were doing the steps by themselves with no sited help. This way hopefully, they will not have any problems. So, again, its not a matter of being right about reinstalling Jaws, it’s a matter of getting max performance out of Jaws 16 and 17 on your w-10 computer. Have a nice day... -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Jim, Your information is incorrect. Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10. No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should come up working after the installation. You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using. Hope this helps. Scorpio -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. -Original Message
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No, I have not... -Original Message- From: Desyree Sent: Monday, September 21, 2015 4:06 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions hey jim, have you seen jaws after windows 10 upgrade and reinstall start having issues with the pc cursor? On 9/21/2015 9:50 AM, jim wrote: Hi Scorpio, Jaws will work OK, but not as well as it should, unless you install it new and fresh in w-10. I speak from experience. I have upgraded two w-7, and two w-8.1 computers, from beginning to end. This includes customizing them as well. The Start button, and search edit field, and the live tile region are effected negatively, unless you reinstall Jaws. I have assisted in many other upgrades. Do not tell me I am wrong, Microsoft recommends, any users of Screen reading software, to uninstall and reinstall them. So, if you want a smooth running w-10 computer with Jaws 16 or 17, you should follow Microsoft recommendation. Just helping people get the most out of w-10 with Jaws... How much experience do you have in upgrading computers to w-10? When I give out instructions, I try to give them out as if everyone was on their own with no sited help. I have a great respect for those who are making it alone. Each day is a challenge for all blind people, more so, when you are alone. So, I research my answers when I give a step by step guide, as if each blind person were doing the steps by themselves with no sited help. This way hopefully, they will not have any problems. So, again, its not a matter of being right about reinstalling Jaws, it’s a matter of getting max performance out of Jaws 16 and 17 on your w-10 computer. Have a nice day... -Original Message- From: Scorpio Forever Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:44 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Jim, Your information is incorrect. Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10. No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should come up working after the installation. You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using. Hope this helps. Scorpio -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting
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Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring the windows 10 and jaws list, is no. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi, I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10. I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to windows 10 today. One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive? Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10? I'm currently using windows 8.1 with JAWS 16 on a Lenovo laptop. thanks, Dacia For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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Jim, Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more coffee (smile) Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi ndows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring the windows 10 and jaws list, is no. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi, I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10. I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to windows 10 today. One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive? Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10? I'm currently using windows 8.1 with JAWS 16 on a Lenovo laptop. thanks, Dacia For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
don't think you need to backup unless you want to make certain everything will be the same if you have to revert. your computer will automatically save a copy of your previous windows system here are steps you can do if you want to revert To roll back to your previous windows , do the following. Go to control panel. In control panel go to the recovery option. At this point, use narrator since this area of windows 10 does not work with any screen readers including JAWS. Then use caps lock+right arrow to find the go back to windows 7 option. Press it. You will get a getting things ready screen, and then a confirmation of what you're about to do. Press the okay button. At this point, you will get a screen which says restoring windows, with no speech available. Just wait until you here the windows startup sound. Note: this option is only available a month after you upgrade to windows 10. Also, upgrading to an insider build and/or running defragment and optimize drives will delete the necessary files for the rollback to windows 7. -Original Message- From: Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Yes, Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful. I plan to upgrade soon. The part of my question that didn't get answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose things? I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be. (smiles) thanks, Dacia On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins <arobb...@blindhandyman.net> wrote: Jim, Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more coffee (smile) Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi ndows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions The answer to question #2, f
Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
Hi Jim, Your information is incorrect. Since he is using Windows 8.1, he only need download and install the latest version of Jaws 16, then install Windows 10. No need to re-install Jaws 16 once the Windows 10 is complete, as it should come up working after the installation. You're thinking about Windows 7, of which he is not using. Hope this helps. Scorpio -Original Message- From: jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Windows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring the windows 10 and jaws list, is no. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi, I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10. I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to windows 10 today. One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive? Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10? I'm currently using windows 8.1 with JAWS 16 on a Lenovo laptop. thanks, Dacia For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
Hi Dacia, Windows has a fairly good back-up utility that is very reliable. You can choose to make a back-up of your files, settings, or a complete image back-up of your computer, including operating system, settings, files and apps. There's a web page that gives you step by step instructions on how to do this below. Hope this helps. http://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-full-backup-windows-pc Scorpio -Original Message- From: Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Yes, Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful. I plan to upgrade soon. The part of my question that didn't get answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose things? I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be. (smiles) thanks, Dacia On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins <arobb...@blindhandyman.net> wrote: Jim, Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more coffee (smile) Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi ndows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring the windows 10 and jaws list, is no. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi, I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10. I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to windows 10 today. One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive? Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10? I'm currently using windows 8.1 with JAWS 16 on a Lenovo laptop. thanks,
Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
Yes, Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful. I plan to upgrade soon. The part of my question that didn't get answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose things? I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be. (smiles) thanks, Dacia On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins <arobb...@blindhandyman.net> wrote: > Jim, > > Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by > Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more > coffee (smile) > > Best, > Al > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of > jim > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions > > Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 > after upgrading to w-10. > Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend > following them for a smooth upgrade experience. > *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. > go to: > http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi > ndows10Upgrade > Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your > download folder. > Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder > for future use. > Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: > http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 > On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or > 32 bit version depending on what system you have. > Download the tool and save it to your download folder for > future use. > Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. > Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. > press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification > area. > go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this > gives you a verification email. > Now, restart your computer. > check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure > you have all the latest updates. > Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. > Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws > fragmented files and so on from your system. > Run the media creation tool. > yes, for your users account warning. > Choose, update this computer now and press enter. > you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: > Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your > computer. > This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending > on your download speed. > When it is done downloading, it will go through several > screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready > for windows 10. > Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the > license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. > Again, the program will run through several screens by > itself. > Next, press enter on install. > now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 > minutes to complete. > After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on > narrator. > Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. > Almost done. > press the next button. > choose express settings. > press the next button. > if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on > talking on the desktop. > very important, uninstall jaws. > Keep shared settings and personal settings. > Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come > on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. > Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. > Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. > For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. > Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. > > > -Original Message- > From: Alan Robbins > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions > > The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring > the windows 10 and jaws list, is no. > Al > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of > Dacia Cole > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM > To: jaws-users-list > Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions > > Hi, > > I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10. > I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to > windows 10 today. > One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive? > Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10? > I'm currently using windows 8.1 with JAWS 16 on a Lenovo > laptop. > > thanks, > > Dacia > > For answers to frequentl
Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
Hi Dacia, No, you do not, because Freedom Scientific has stated that if you are upgrading from a Windows 8.1 computer to a Windows 10, as long as you have the latest version of Jaws 16, then you should be good to go, and don't need to re-install a thing. Now, if you wish to download the Windows 10 media creation kit, so you can get your copy of Windows faster, then that's your prerogative, but there are no utilities you'll have to download for Jaws. Good luck. Scorpio -Original Message- From: Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 9:50 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Okay, Thank you so much. So do I still need to download the utility tool and such even though I don't need to download JAWS as I'm running the latest version of JAWS 16? thanks, Dacia On 9/20/15, Scorpio Forever <scorpio...@gmail.com> wrote: Hi Dacia, Windows has a fairly good back-up utility that is very reliable. You can choose to make a back-up of your files, settings, or a complete image back-up of your computer, including operating system, settings, files and apps. There's a web page that gives you step by step instructions on how to do this below. Hope this helps. http://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-full-backup-windows-pc Scorpio -Original Message- From: Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Yes, Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful. I plan to upgrade soon. The part of my question that didn't get answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose things? I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be. (smiles) thanks, Dacia On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins <arobb...@blindhandyman.net> wrote: Jim, Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more coffee (smile) Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi ndows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails th
Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions
I downloaded windows 10 through the microsoft website and used the media creation tool. I reserved my fre upgrade and there were so many problems, I couldn't even use internet explorer nor use windows update. I recomen you do it that way instead of reserving it in the sblestem tray. - Original Message - From: Dacia Cole <dacia.l...@gmail.com To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Date sent: Sun, 20 Sep 2015 19:24:44 -0500 Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Yes, Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful. I plan to upgrade soon. The part of my question that didn't get answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose things? I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be. (smiles) thanks, Dacia On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins <arobb...@blindhandyman.net> wrote: Jim, Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more coffee (smile) Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi ndows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring the windows 10 and jaws list, is no. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi, I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10. I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to windows 10 today. One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive? Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10? I'm currently using windows 8.1 with JAWS 16 on a Lenovo laptop. thanks, Dacia For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-
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The sad part is that the reload is not accessible without sited help. Other than that I agree with you completely. David Ferrin A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved from a simpler system that worked perfectly. -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Scorpio Forever Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:55 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Dacia, Windows has a fairly good back-up utility that is very reliable. You can choose to make a back-up of your files, settings, or a complete image back-up of your computer, including operating system, settings, files and apps. There's a web page that gives you step by step instructions on how to do this below. Hope this helps. http://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-full-backup-windows-pc Scorpio -Original Message- From: Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Yes, Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful. I plan to upgrade soon. The part of my question that didn't get answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose things? I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be. (smiles) thanks, Dacia On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins <arobb...@blindhandyman.net> wrote: > Jim, > > Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by Dacia. I > answered part of her question. Maybe time for more coffee (smile) > > Best, > Al > > -Original Message- > From: JAWS-Users-List > [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions > > Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after > upgrading to w-10. > Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for > a smooth upgrade experience. > *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. > go to: > http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi > ndows10Upgrade > Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download > folder. > Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future > use. > Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: > http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 > On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or > 32 bit version depending on what system you have. > Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. > Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. > Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. > press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. > go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a > verification email. > Now, restart your computer. > check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have > all the latest updates. > Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. > Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented > files and so on from your system. > Run the media creation tool. > yes, for your users account warning. > Choose, update this computer now and press enter. > you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: > Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. > This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your > download speed. > When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself > updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. > Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license > agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. > Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. > Next, press enter on install. > now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to > complete. > After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. > Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. > Almost done. > press the next button. > choose express settings. > press the next button. > if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on > the desktop. > very important, uninstall jaws. > Keep shared settings and personal settings. > Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking > with all your settings, except for 2 of them. > Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. > Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. > For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. > Check for update
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Okay, Thank you so much. So do I still need to download the utility tool and such even though I don't need to download JAWS as I'm running the latest version of JAWS 16? thanks, Dacia On 9/20/15, Scorpio Forever <scorpio...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Dacia, > > Windows has a fairly good back-up utility that is very reliable. You can > choose to make a back-up of your files, settings, or a complete image > back-up of your computer, including operating system, settings, files and > apps. > > There's a web page that gives you step by step instructions on how to do > this below. > > Hope this helps. > > http://www.windowscentral.com/how-make-full-backup-windows-pc > > Scorpio > > > > -Original Message- > From: Dacia Cole > Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 8:24 PM > To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com > Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions > > Yes, > > Thank you for the detailed instructions I found them very helpful. I > plan to upgrade soon. The part of my question that didn't get > answered is how to do a system backup so I can back all my stuff up on > to my external hardrive in case my upgrade goes crazy and I lose > things? I don't anticipate that, but you know how computers can be. > (smiles) > > thanks, > > Dacia > > On 9/20/15, Alan Robbins <arobb...@blindhandyman.net> wrote: >> Jim, >> >> Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by >> Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more >> coffee (smile) >> >> Best, >> Al >> >> -Original Message- >> From: JAWS-Users-List >> [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of >> jim >> Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM >> To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com >> Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions >> >> Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 >> after upgrading to w-10. >> Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend >> following them for a smooth upgrade experience. >> *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. >> go to: >> http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi >> ndows10Upgrade >> Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your >> download folder. >> Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder >> for future use. >> Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: >> http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 >> On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or >> 32 bit version depending on what system you have. >> Download the tool and save it to your download folder for >> future use. >> Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. >> Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. >> press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification >> area. >> go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this >> gives you a verification email. >> Now, restart your computer. >> check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure >> you have all the latest updates. >> Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. >> Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws >> fragmented files and so on from your system. >> Run the media creation tool. >> yes, for your users account warning. >> Choose, update this computer now and press enter. >> you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: >> Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your >> computer. >> This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending >> on your download speed. >> When it is done downloading, it will go through several >> screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready >> for windows 10. >> Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the >> license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. >> Again, the program will run through several screens by >> itself. >> Next, press enter on install. >> now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 >> minutes to complete. >> After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on >> narrator. >> Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. >> Almost done. >> press the next button. >> choose express settings. >> press the next button. >> if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on >> talking on the desktop. >> very important, uninstall jaws. >> Keep shared settings and personal settings. >> Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come >&g
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My version of Jaws came back up just fine. Is it still necessary to go on the FS page and reinstall? Thanks. On 9/20/2015 7:04 PM, Alan Robbins wrote: Jim, Thanks, actually the initial question was submitted by Dacia. I answered part of her question. Maybe time for more coffee (smile) Best, Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of jim Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 7:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi Al, The answer is Yes, you need to reinstall Jaws 16 after upgrading to w-10. Here are the instructions again, I highly recommend following them for a smooth upgrade experience. *Upgrading to Windows 10 with jaws 16. go to: http://www.freedomscientific.com/Support/TechnicalSupport/Wi ndows10Upgrade Download the tool called utility tool, leave it in your download folder. Download jaws 16.0.4350, leave it in your download folder for future use. Download the Microsoft media creation tool at: http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10 On this web page, Go to download link now 64 bit version or 32 bit version depending on what system you have. Download the tool and save it to your download folder for future use. Leave all three of these downloads in your download folder. Now, if you have not reserved windows 10, please do so. press enter on the get windows 10 icon in the notification area. go down the page and fill in your email address ext. this gives you a verification email. Now, restart your computer. check for updates, install any updates, restart to make sure you have all the latest updates. Now you are ready to begin the upgrade to windows 10. Run the jaws utility tool, this will get rid of any jaws fragmented files and so on from your system. Run the media creation tool. yes, for your users account warning. Choose, update this computer now and press enter. you are now in an ongoing and updating dialog which says: Windows 10 is being downloaded, continue using your computer. This could take anywhere between 30 to 60 minutes, depending on your download speed. When it is done downloading, it will go through several screens itself updating your computer and will get it ready for windows 10. Next, there will be a screen asking you to except the license agreement, check the yes and press enter on next. Again, the program will run through several screens by itself. Next, press enter on install. now you will have no speech, this install takes 45 to 60 minutes to complete. After 1 hour, press the Windows key+enter key to turn on narrator. Wait for a few minutes if it does not come on right away. Almost done. press the next button. choose express settings. press the next button. if done right, in about 10 to 15 minutes, jaws will come on talking on the desktop. very important, uninstall jaws. Keep shared settings and personal settings. Reinstall jaws, no need for a restart here, jaws will come on talking with all your settings, except for 2 of them. Redo your shortcut key, control+ALT+j. Redo the setting to have jaws come on at the log-on screen. For whatever reason if the media tool fails the first time. Check for updates, restart, and run the tool again. -Original Message- From: Alan Robbins Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:54 PM To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring the windows 10 and jaws list, is no. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi, I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10. I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to windows 10 today. One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive? Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10? I'm currently using windows 8.1 with JAWS 16 on a Lenovo laptop. thanks, Dacia For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/
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The answer to question #2, from my understanding monitoring the windows 10 and jaws list, is no. Al -Original Message- From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On Behalf Of Dacia Cole Sent: Sunday, September 20, 2015 5:27 PM To: jaws-users-list Subject: [JAWS-Users] upgrading windows 10 questions Hi, I have a couple of questions about upgrading to windows 10. I've finally been asked to upgrade from windows 8.1 to windows 10 today. One, how do I do a system backup to my external hardrive? Second, do I have to reinstall JAWS once I upgrade to 10? I'm currently using windows 8.1 with JAWS 16 on a Lenovo laptop. thanks, Dacia For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/ For answers to frequently asked questions about this list visit: http://www.jaws-users.com/help/