[JBoss-dev] Server header
What do you guys think of this:
If you don't want Server: Apache-Coyote/1.1 response header from Tomcat
Edit SERVER constant field of org.apache.coyote.http11.Constants in
jakarta-tomcat-connectors/http11/src. :-) In addition, actually it is used
by org.apache.coyote.http11.Http11Processor only.
http://freeroller.net/page/iasandcb/20040209
What if we changed that to JBOSS ${version}?
Then we could show up in netcraft surveys when people do not front end us
with Apache.
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[JBoss-dev] FW: What is your favorite operating system?
I've always been curious what operating systems people run JBoss on and develop for JBoss on as well as what companies/organizations use JBoss. I was hoping some folks might help satisfy my curiosity: http://jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=WhatIsYourFavoriteOperatingSystem Please fill out this page on the JBoss wiki. Anyone who is a registered nukes (JBoss Forum/etc) user can participate. If you haven't used the wiki before you can find instructions here: http://jboss.org/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Main This isn't an official poll, I just thought it would be good to know. Unlike most polls, this poll should be completely fair and informal. Please don't crowd the list with your responses, just edit the wiki page. Thanks, Andy -- End of Forwarded Message --- The SF.Net email is sponsored by EclipseCon 2004 Premiere Conference on Open Tools Development and Integration See the breadth of Eclipse activity. February 3-5 in Anaheim, CA. http://www.eclipsecon.org/osdn ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: Joe Admin User mail services Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: [Core] WG: Comparison between BEA JBoss
On 11/10/03 8:18 AM, Scott M Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In order to load the org.jboss.mail.userrepository.MetaInfoImpl class from the codebase, you are going to have to catch the UndeclaredThrowableException and check the nested type since the RMIAdaptor interface does not allow for ClassNotFoundExceptions. Right...how do I actually load it from the codebase...I got the catching the exception issue. -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost definitely not shared by the Apache Software Foundation, its board or its general membership. In fact they probably most definitively disagree with everything espoused in the above email. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: Joe Admin User mail services Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: [Core] WG: Comparison between BEA JBoss
is that the SMTP is mostly done and can post messages to JMS (thats just because I wrote that particular mail listener first). My vision is that in the short run we'll have a simple MDBean which looks at the message and either writes it to a MailBox (which I envision being an entity bean and later use either Hibernate or Bela's cache thingy). Why? I want 200 ms IMAP access (for instance). Someone else has already contributed a TLS (SSL) implementation. Eric has written a POP implementation that is awaiting a mailbox abstraction. (Back to above) A JBoss client has asked to fund some of that work with their support hours and Eric will be working on the mailbox abstraction, etc shortly. Once that is complete we have to think through authentication policies. I favor a rather lame brained pessimistic policy at first which will limit our usefulness in some areas but I don't want to ever stamp something release until we're real secure. Julien has also contributed something or other, however I didn't really understand that whole thing to be honest (why did we need that over JavaMail?)... The TLS guy also submitted a non-javamail Mail header implementation. Why? Because of all stupid things the InternetHeader class isn't serializable. I've got a prototype for the Jboss Console GUI (http://superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/erswiki.pl?JBossConsole) necessary to set up the Mail Services stuff. ATM I have to deal with restrictions on the RMI Classloader. The reason that I consider this related closely to mail services is that in order to provide an enterprise class mail server system which is flexible enough for e-support and mail lists and whatever without making the setup as anti-user-friendly as sendmail.cf, I need to consider it from the start. Right now the GUI comes up and can categorize uimanageable=true MBeans and attempts to get their UI then chokes with a classloader issue. Anyhow, thats no biggy, I'll get there. Once that is done I need to see how to hook into the deployment scanner and tell it this descriptor is not to be redeployed, here's its new timestamp..then I have to figure out how to write descriptors. Bottom line: 1. Finish out mailbox abstraction 2. MDBean for sending and sorting mail 3. Get authentication policies set up 4. Round out the JBConsole 5. Write IMAP protocol and increase the complexity of the mailbox abstraction (multi-folder) 6. Write a calendar abstraction 7. Exchange protocol Eric may have some differing viewpoints (I have a funny way of working with people which sometimes looks chaotic, they go a direction, I go a direction then we meet up with the best tech winning). Hopefully he'll offer them up and round this out. Better yet...maybe he'll start on the wiki: http://superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/erswiki.pl?action=editid=MailServices F orJBoss -- it puts the lotion in the bucket or it gets the hose. With two contiguous months I could get the mail server rounded out (at least 1-4). I'll probably need the most help for 7. I've actually done some work on 5 before for JAMES so no biggy. How's that? -Andy The datasource is a good/pathological example because it also includes advanced configurations like the CMP mappings, jbossmq persistence config and the pad=true xid for Oracle. Showing disparate metadata needs to be combined in the management view/tool. Regards, Adrian -- Juha IMHO bax --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost definitely not shared by the Apache Software Foundation, its board or its general membership. In fact they probably most definitively disagree with everything espoused in the above email. --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19 November in Las Vegas. Learn firsthand the latest developments in Apache, PHP, Perl, XML, Java, MySQL, WebDAV, and more! http://www.apachecon.com/ ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Joe Admin User mail services Re: [JBoss-dev] Re: [Core] WG: Comparison between BEA JBoss
Why don't we start different threads for different issues? This thread start out as discussing making management easier. e.g. Joe Windows Admin wants a GUI Wizard entitled Configure datasource preferably one that does not ask if he writing letter :-) How does Joe hates-GUIs programmer (i.e. me) maintain that wizard and other management interfaces when I add configuration options to the jdbc rars or db specifc plugins? I've started working on this. I'm hitting a gee you don't have a security manager so you can't use the RMI Classloader issue, but I'm sure I'll figure it out shortly. Details here: http://superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/erswiki.pl?JBossConsole (Ugly picture included). It also incorporates MASS-server configuration (meaning telling all 20 in the cluster to reconfigure) Here are the details from an earlier message that doesn't seem to have made it here: The present status is that the SMTP is mostly done and can post messages to JMS (that¹s just because I wrote that particular mail listener first). My vision is that in the short run we'll have a simple MDBean which looks at the message and either writes it to a MailBox (which I envision being an entity bean and later use either Hibernate or Bela's cache thingy). Why? I want 200 ms IMAP access (for instance). Someone else has already contributed a TLS (SSL) implementation. Eric has written a POP implementation that is awaiting a mailbox abstraction. (Back to above) A JBoss client has asked to fund some of that work with their support hours and Eric will be working on the mailbox abstraction, etc shortly. Once that is complete we have to think through authentication policies. I favor a rather lame brained pessimistic policy at first which will limit our usefulness in some areas but I don't want to ever stamp something release until we're real secure. Julien has also contributed something or other, however I didn't really understand that whole thing to be honest (why did we need that over JavaMail?)... The TLS guy also submitted a non-javamail Mail header implementation. Why? Because of all stupid things the InternetHeader class isn't serializable. I've got a prototype for the Jboss Console GUI (http://superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/erswiki.pl?JBossConsole) necessary to set up the Mail Services stuff. ATM I have to deal with restrictions on the RMI Classloader. The reason that I consider this related closely to mail services is that in order to provide an enterprise class mail server system which is flexible enough for e-support and mail lists and whatever without making the setup as anti-user-friendly as sendmail.cf, I need to consider it from the start. Right now the GUI comes up and can categorize uimanageable=true MBeans and attempts to get their UI then chokes with a classloader issue. Anyhow, that¹s no biggy, I'll get there. Once that is done I need to see how to hook into the deployment scanner and tell it this descriptor is not to be redeployed, here's its new timestamp..then I have to figure out how to write descriptors. Bottom line: 1. Finish out mailbox abstraction 2. MDBean for sending and sorting mail 3. Get authentication policies set up 4. Round out the JBConsole 5. Write IMAP protocol and increase the complexity of the mailbox abstraction (multi-folder) 6. Write a calendar abstraction 7. Exchange protocol Eric may have some differing viewpoints (I have a funny way of working with people which sometimes looks chaotic, they go a direction, I go a direction then we meet up with the best tech winning). Hopefully he'll offer them up and round this out. Better yet...maybe he'll start on the wiki: http://superlinksoftware.com/cgi-bin/erswiki.pl?action=editid=MailServicesF orJBoss -- it puts the lotion in the bucket or it gets the hose. With two contiguous months I could get the mail server rounded out (at least 1-4). I'll probably need the most help for 7. I've actually done some work on 5 before for JAMES so no biggy. How's that? -Andy The datasource is a good/pathological example because it also includes advanced configurations like the CMP mappings, jbossmq persistence config and the pad=true xid for Oracle. Showing disparate metadata needs to be combined in the management view/tool. Regards, Adrian -- Juha IMHO bax --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Does SourceForge.net help you be more productive? Does it help you create better code? SHARE THE LOVE, and help us help YOU! Click Here: http://sourceforge.net/donate/ ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation
Re: [JBoss-dev] turn JBoss into an LDAP server
Actually the mail server stuff might help with LDAP. Its just another protocol. On 9/29/03 5:09 AM, Bill Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Oliver is working on a mail server. Contact him if you want to work on that. Bill Ionel GARDAIS wrote: --- Rupp, Heiko [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : That is something that I'd be interested in (as developer), but I can't promise any timeframe at the moment. So do I. I am looking after a thing to develop to get involve in JBoss I thought of an LDAP server but also a mail server (smtp/pop/imap). These two server could use EJB to store datas. I am still wondering if these kind of applications should be developped as a part of JBoss or as a standalone application, able to deploy on any application server See you later, I'm going back to LDAP rfc readings :) Ionel ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost definitely not shared by the Apache Software Foundation, its board or its general membership. In fact they probably most definitively disagree with everything espoused in the above email. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] Andy Oliver's mail address
Oh crap now I'll be spammed on that account too (mail scanners will pick it up) :-/ Anyhow, I do monitor this list and the mail services forum. I'm on the road ATM at customer sites,etc. So I'm just latent. -Andy On 9/30/03 5:27 AM, Bill Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ionel GARDAIS wrote: Hi, Does anybody have Andy Oliver's email address ? I have been told he is developping a mail server for JBoss thanks, ionel ___ Do You Yahoo!? -- Une adresse @yahoo.fr gratuite et en français ! Yahoo! Mail : http://fr.mail.yahoo.com --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost definitely not shared by the Apache Software Foundation, its board or its general membership. In fact they probably most definitively disagree with everything espoused in the above email. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. See the people who have HELPED US provide better services: Click here: http://sourceforge.net/supporters.php ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
[JBoss-dev] New changes in the jboss-mail package
Hi all, I've committed a few new changes to the jboss-mail module as well as made it build/run as a SAR... I'm testing it primarily in 3.2.1 so if you're interested in checking it out/helping then use 3.2.1 for now. http://www.jboss.org/thread.jsp?nav=falseforum=186thread=38805 Thanks, Andy -- Andrew C. Oliver --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
[JBoss-dev] Want to work on a mail server for jboss?
If so join me on the mail services forum: http://www.jboss.org/thread.jsp?forum=186thread=38235 Should have a functional SMTP server real soon now. -andy -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost definitely not shared by the Apache Software Foundation, its board or its general membership. In fact they probably most definitively disagree with everything espoused in the above email. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing.
Only if you distribute it. If you don't distribute it then its not enacted. So if you hack jboss up for your internal systems, you're not obligated. If you distribute those to the outside world, you're obligated. However, take this advice for utter BS (and Juha's too, no offense). The best advice anyone can get regarding ANY software license is ask an attorney. As an experienced open source guy, the first thing I did when I started making any substantial amount of money was find an attorney. I can make a recommendation for one if you need one. -Andy On 8/21/03 6:21 AM, Juha Lindfors [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Subclasses would fall under LGPL, as far as I can tell, if they're distributed publically. -- Juha On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, Jim Brownfield wrote: I believe subclassing would also be OK, so if you need to modify functionality, you might be able to extend a JBoss class without making your code opensource. -- Jim Brownfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Radical System Solutions, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Burke Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing. IANAL. Plugins are ok I think. But any modified JBoss source code must be licensed under LGPL and become itself, open source. Bill -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Venkatesh V Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBoss-dev] JBoss Licencing. Hi All, Can we add plugin's to JBoss modify JBoss source code and use it for commercial purposes. How is the Licence for the JBoss. I have read the LGPL Licence, but i am not getting it clearly Plz send your comments. TIA Regards Venkatesh V __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code4 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by Dice.com. Did you know that Dice has over 25,000 tech jobs available today? From careers in IT to Engineering to Tech Sales, Dice has tech jobs from the best hiring companies. http://www.dice.com/index.epl?rel_code=104 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? The views expressed in this email are those of the author and are almost definitely not shared by the Apache Software Foundation, its board or its general membership. In fact they probably most definitively disagree with everything espoused in the above email. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: VM Ware With VMware you can run multiple operating systems on a single machine. WITHOUT REBOOTING! Mix Linux / Windows / Novell virtual machines at the same time. Free trial click here:http://www.vmware.com/wl/offer/358/0 ___ JBoss-Development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] [Ann] [JBoss.net] Axis 1.1 final in *head* -- andin 3.2
Thanks Doc! Note that it is also in the 3.2 branch. Testers gratefully welcomed! -andy On 6/29/03 10:17 AM, Jung , Dr. Christoph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: subject says it all. In addition, jws file support (web service code that is compiled on the fly, similar to jsps) has been enabled in the default conf. CGJ ### This message has been scanned by F-Secure Anti-Virus for Microsoft Exchange. For more information, connect to http://www.F-Secure.com/ --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0016ave/direct;at.asp_061203_01/01 ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are available now. Download today and enter to win an XBOX or Visual Studio .NET. http://aspnet.click-url.com/go/psa0016ave/direct;at.asp_061203_01/01 ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
[JBoss-dev] Making the 4.0 build system happy.
I just built 4.0 and tried to run the jb.net tests against it (works fine in
3.2)
I got this:
[javac]
/Users/andrewoliver/projects/jboss/jb.net/jboss-head/jboss.net/testsuite/src
/main/org/jboss/test/net/addr/AddrUnitTestCase.java:17: warning:
org.jboss.net.axis.AxisInvocationHandler in org.jboss.net.axis has been
deprecated
[javac] import org.jboss.net.axis.AxisInvocationHandler;
[javac] ^
[javac]
/Users/andrewoliver/projects/jboss/jb.net/jboss-head/jboss.net/testsuite/src
/main/org/jboss/test/net/AxisTestCase.java:12: cannot resolve symbol
[javac] symbol : class JBossTestCase
[javac] location: package test
[javac] import org.jboss.test.JBossTestCase;
[javac] ^
[javac]
/Users/andrewoliver/projects/jboss/jb.net/jboss-head/jboss.net/testsuite/src
/main/org/jboss/test/net/AxisTestCase.java:13: cannot resolve symbol
[javac] symbol : class JBossTestSetup
[javac] location: package test
[javac] import org.jboss.test.JBossTestSetup;
[javac] ^
[javac]
/Users/andrewoliver/projects/jboss/jb.net/jboss-head/jboss.net/testsuite/src
/main/org/jboss/test/net/AxisTestCase.java:15: warning:
org.jboss.net.axis.AxisInvocationHandler in org.jboss.net.axis has been
deprecated
[javac] import org.jboss.net.axis.AxisInvocationHandler;
[javac] ^
[javac]
/Users/andrewoliver/projects/jboss/jb.net/jboss-head/jboss.net/testsuite/src
/main/org/jboss/test/net/AxisTestCase.java:48: cannot resolve symbol
[javac] symbol : class JBossTestCase
[javac] location: class org.jboss.test.net.AxisTestCase
[javac] public class AxisTestCase extends JBossTestCase {
Ignoring the deprecation warning, what does one need to do to make tests
work from a given module with 4.0? I can investigate it but I'm supposing
this is a minor classpath/code reorg issue that someone probably knows
about...
TIA,
-Andy
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Re: [JBoss-dev] Thread management
Simple thread management, no transaction stuff. Basically, for an SMTP server the request handlers will have to be thread managed of course. The streams will then need to be closed. I don't really need it to be managed separately from the SMTP service and I'm not sure I want it to be. -Andy On 6/5/03 1:22 AM, David Jencks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What do you need? I'd rather avoid having 895 different thread pool implementations for the 65 actual uses. The particular interface in the work package is spec mandated, but that doesn't mean we can't have shared infrastructure. david jencks On 2003.06.04 22:45 Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Isn't quite what I need, no biggy. I'll roll my own. On 6/4/03 5:04 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks man. On 6/4/03 12:16 PM, Adrian Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jboss-head in the connector module org.jboss.resource.work Adrian Brock Director of Support Back Office JBoss Group, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver Sent: 04 June 2003 17:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Thread management Thanks Adrian, Any idea on module/dir/tag? -Andy On 6/4/03 11:27 AM, Adrian Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andrew, David has been working on some thread management stuff for the Work contract in jca 1.5 I think it is still very simple at the moment. Regards, Adrian Adrian Brock Director of Support Back Office JBoss Group, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver Sent: 04 June 2003 16:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBoss-dev] Thread management I'm getting very close to needing to work on multi-threading the JMX SMTP service for Jboss. My approach is to steal what I can from Apache JAMES, though I've re-written a good part of it, ripped out all of the Avalon stuff (even the Avalon folks whine that JAMES uses Avalon incorrectly, but then again they whine about that for every existing use of Avalon). Its a 70-80% rewrite, 10-20% refactor and 10-20% copy (though its mostly dumb stuff like stream subclasses). In doing this I've ripped out the Watchdog stuff and hence the thread-management. I have my own crazy ideas for how threads should be handled, but first I want to check to see if Jboss has some tried-and-true generic thread management code lying around that I can use? Nothing jumped out at me in perusing the sources. Any pointers would be much appreciated. If enough caffeine finds me, I should have an alpha by JavaONE. Thanks, Andy PS. If you're bored you can read about it here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/general?permalink=JBoss+ Mail%3A+SMTP.h tml here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=JBo ss+Mail.ht ml here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=JBoss+Mail%2C +the +more+I+think+about+it.html and here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=So+quit+whini ng+a nd+just+do+it.html Note that my time estimates were a bit under in part because I have a different audience than just want to use as my mail server, do as little work as possible, in part because they just were ;-) -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free
[JBoss-dev] Thread management
I'm getting very close to needing to work on multi-threading the JMX SMTP service for Jboss. My approach is to steal what I can from Apache JAMES, though I've re-written a good part of it, ripped out all of the Avalon stuff (even the Avalon folks whine that JAMES uses Avalon incorrectly, but then again they whine about that for every existing use of Avalon). Its a 70-80% rewrite, 10-20% refactor and 10-20% copy (though its mostly dumb stuff like stream subclasses). In doing this I've ripped out the Watchdog stuff and hence the thread-management. I have my own crazy ideas for how threads should be handled, but first I want to check to see if Jboss has some tried-and-true generic thread management code lying around that I can use? Nothing jumped out at me in perusing the sources. Any pointers would be much appreciated. If enough caffeine finds me, I should have an alpha by JavaONE. Thanks, Andy PS. If you're bored you can read about it here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/general?permalink=JBoss+Mail%3A+SMTP.h tml here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=JBoss+Mail.html here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=JBoss+Mail%2C+the +more+I+think+about+it.html and here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=So+quit+whining+a nd+just+do+it.html Note that my time estimates were a bit under in part because I have a different audience than just want to use as my mail server, do as little work as possible, in part because they just were ;-) -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] Thread management
Thanks Adrian, Any idea on module/dir/tag? -Andy On 6/4/03 11:27 AM, Adrian Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andrew, David has been working on some thread management stuff for the Work contract in jca 1.5 I think it is still very simple at the moment. Regards, Adrian Adrian Brock Director of Support Back Office JBoss Group, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver Sent: 04 June 2003 16:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBoss-dev] Thread management I'm getting very close to needing to work on multi-threading the JMX SMTP service for Jboss. My approach is to steal what I can from Apache JAMES, though I've re-written a good part of it, ripped out all of the Avalon stuff (even the Avalon folks whine that JAMES uses Avalon incorrectly, but then again they whine about that for every existing use of Avalon). Its a 70-80% rewrite, 10-20% refactor and 10-20% copy (though its mostly dumb stuff like stream subclasses). In doing this I've ripped out the Watchdog stuff and hence the thread-management. I have my own crazy ideas for how threads should be handled, but first I want to check to see if Jboss has some tried-and-true generic thread management code lying around that I can use? Nothing jumped out at me in perusing the sources. Any pointers would be much appreciated. If enough caffeine finds me, I should have an alpha by JavaONE. Thanks, Andy PS. If you're bored you can read about it here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/general?permalink=JBoss+ Mail%3A+SMTP.h tml here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=JBoss+Mail.ht ml here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=JBoss+Mail%2C +the +more+I+think+about+it.html and here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=So+quit+whini ng+a nd+just+do+it.html Note that my time estimates were a bit under in part because I have a different audience than just want to use as my mail server, do as little work as possible, in part because they just were ;-) -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] Thread management
Thanks man. On 6/4/03 12:16 PM, Adrian Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jboss-head in the connector module org.jboss.resource.work Adrian Brock Director of Support Back Office JBoss Group, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver Sent: 04 June 2003 17:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Thread management Thanks Adrian, Any idea on module/dir/tag? -Andy On 6/4/03 11:27 AM, Adrian Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andrew, David has been working on some thread management stuff for the Work contract in jca 1.5 I think it is still very simple at the moment. Regards, Adrian Adrian Brock Director of Support Back Office JBoss Group, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver Sent: 04 June 2003 16:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBoss-dev] Thread management I'm getting very close to needing to work on multi-threading the JMX SMTP service for Jboss. My approach is to steal what I can from Apache JAMES, though I've re-written a good part of it, ripped out all of the Avalon stuff (even the Avalon folks whine that JAMES uses Avalon incorrectly, but then again they whine about that for every existing use of Avalon). Its a 70-80% rewrite, 10-20% refactor and 10-20% copy (though its mostly dumb stuff like stream subclasses). In doing this I've ripped out the Watchdog stuff and hence the thread-management. I have my own crazy ideas for how threads should be handled, but first I want to check to see if Jboss has some tried-and-true generic thread management code lying around that I can use? Nothing jumped out at me in perusing the sources. Any pointers would be much appreciated. If enough caffeine finds me, I should have an alpha by JavaONE. Thanks, Andy PS. If you're bored you can read about it here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/general?permalink=JBoss+ Mail%3A+SMTP.h tml here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=JBo ss+Mail.ht ml here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=JBoss+Mail%2C +the +more+I+think+about+it.html and here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=So+quit+whini ng+a nd+just+do+it.html Note that my time estimates were a bit under in part because I have a different audience than just want to use as my mail server, do as little work as possible, in part because they just were ;-) -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] Thread management
Isn't quite what I need, no biggy. I'll roll my own. On 6/4/03 5:04 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks man. On 6/4/03 12:16 PM, Adrian Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: jboss-head in the connector module org.jboss.resource.work Adrian Brock Director of Support Back Office JBoss Group, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver Sent: 04 June 2003 17:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [JBoss-dev] Thread management Thanks Adrian, Any idea on module/dir/tag? -Andy On 6/4/03 11:27 AM, Adrian Brock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Andrew, David has been working on some thread management stuff for the Work contract in jca 1.5 I think it is still very simple at the moment. Regards, Adrian Adrian Brock Director of Support Back Office JBoss Group, LLC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew C. Oliver Sent: 04 June 2003 16:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [JBoss-dev] Thread management I'm getting very close to needing to work on multi-threading the JMX SMTP service for Jboss. My approach is to steal what I can from Apache JAMES, though I've re-written a good part of it, ripped out all of the Avalon stuff (even the Avalon folks whine that JAMES uses Avalon incorrectly, but then again they whine about that for every existing use of Avalon). Its a 70-80% rewrite, 10-20% refactor and 10-20% copy (though its mostly dumb stuff like stream subclasses). In doing this I've ripped out the Watchdog stuff and hence the thread-management. I have my own crazy ideas for how threads should be handled, but first I want to check to see if Jboss has some tried-and-true generic thread management code lying around that I can use? Nothing jumped out at me in perusing the sources. Any pointers would be much appreciated. If enough caffeine finds me, I should have an alpha by JavaONE. Thanks, Andy PS. If you're bored you can read about it here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/general?permalink=JBoss+ Mail%3A+SMTP.h tml here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=JBo ss+Mail.ht ml here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=JBoss+Mail%2C +the +more+I+think+about+it.html and here: http://linuxintegrators.com/hl30/blog/technology?permalink=So+quit+whini ng+a nd+just+do+it.html Note that my time estimates were a bit under in part because I have a different audience than just want to use as my mail server, do as little work as possible, in part because they just were ;-) -- Andrew C. Oliver http://www.superlinksoftware.com/poi.jsp Custom enhancements and Commercial Implementation for Jakarta POI http://jakarta.apache.org/poi For Java and Excel, Got POI? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Designed with thread debugging features you've never dreamed of, try TotalView 6 free at www.etnus.com. ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] AOP versioned ACID objects 1st iteration
Pope Paul V ordered Bellarmine to have the Sacred Congregation of the Index decide on the Copernican theory. The cardinals of the Inquisition met on 24 February 1616 and took evidence from theological experts. They condemned the teachings of Copernicus, and Bellarmine conveyed their decision to Galileo who had not been personally involved in the trial. Galileo was forbidden to hold Copernican views. Dude, that is so funny! I was about to write that exact thing (though less elegantly) and then make some references to the Spanish Inquisition, but then I thought...what's the point... -Andy Dave, I've participated in the evolution of distributed systems of the past 10 years, DCE, CORBA, and now J2EE implementations. System level aspects are just the next iteration of the same theme. The difference being that the AOP paradigm finally let's you separate your business logic code from your distributed infrastructure. You will see. Everybody will jump on the AOP bandwagon eventually. I'm just glad JBoss is a leader this time rather than being just a J2EE chump follower. Bill --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: The Definitive IT and Networking Event. Be There! NetWorld+Interop Las Vegas 2003 -- Register today! http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?keyn0001en ___ Jboss-development mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/jboss-development
Re: [JBoss-dev] PHP
Hi, Is there some sort of benchmarking on the site as it is currently? It'd be cool to see a before and after picture. I'm not making any point or anything, its purely intellectual curiosity. -Andy marc fleury wrote: holger, we totally agree and we are talking about the same thing. I already proposed it to Julien back when we wanted to go PN. The idea is indeed to RUN PHP APPS AS IS in JBoss but with the merit of same VM cache access. That is what it is all about and what is killing the current www.jboss.org machine under apache/php, the fact that PHP is a lot of servlet/jdbc equivalent code done poorly. Let's do a port for now, with EJB representing the tables so that at least we remove the JDBC code (or ODBC or whatever it is PHP uses) and leverage some cache. It will speed www.jboss.org speed by ten. marcf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Holger Baxmann Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] PHP mmmmmm, i am not talking about porting xor integration. i am talking about php beeing a _frontend_ in the depest meaning. unfortunately was this not sufficient for the php people to fullfill the the marketing flyers of their products. so they called the backend, and there is definitely only one possible, directly via libraries. what stands against a jboss-faking-the-backend-library? we will provide the smooth migration not only to jboss, but to the bunches of running businesses in php too. if we have html, soap, corba, rmi, etc. etc. 'frontends' then php seems not a problem for me. let's do both bax Von: julien viet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 01:14:23 +0100 An: Holger Baxmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re[4]: [JBoss-dev] PHP we already tried to investigate that way a couple of month ago. but servlet and PHP are not in the same space. Therefore no tight interraction is possible with jboss, serialization issues are a consequence. julien HB just found it: HB XLVIII. Java HB There are two possible ways to bridge PHP and Java: you can either integrate HB PHP into a Java Servlet environment, which is the more stable and efficient HB solution, or integrate Java support into PHP. The former is HB provided by a SAPI module that interfaces with the Servlet server, HB the latter by the Java HB extension. HB at: http://php.benscom.com/manual/kr/ref.java.php HB bax Von: Holger Baxmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 00:57:31 +0100 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: Re[2]: [JBoss-dev] PHP I thought about it, but that wouldn't solve the case. Direct DB would still be used and slowness would still be there, PHP db functions would be mapped to JDBC. The problem is not PHP, it's the way PHP guys code. i know, deeply: i know. my last paid job was for a company with around 80.000 php source code lines in a collaboration app. one option to go not blasted away was porting this to j2. the company has had no further life because of not taking the option :) imho, there are not too many functions that the guys are calling, around some hundred. if we are able to fake - licensingwise the functionality of - the zend engine via a filter, it bites me to use 'interceptor' - before the engine is called, we should have a smooth migration to jboss through parsing the php code to - ok, ok - xml/xsd, don't we? the particular sql dialect is not really more complicated than the uglyiest php script. the db access should not be the real problem - most of them use mysql anyway. a) this is no database b) jboss should be able to behave like a non-transactional thing like this bax Anyway that would be a great project and could attract many developpers onto J2EE platform. There do not exists a PHP specification. Such a project would consist in retro engineering there compiler. In fact I don't know anything about zend and their licence, though project is hosted by apache. Here is the header they use in sourecode : /* +- -+ | Zend Engine | +- -+ | Copyright (c) 1998-2002 Zend Technologies Ltd. (http://www.zend.com) | +- -+ | This source file is subject to version 2.00 of the Zend license, | | that is bundled with this package in the file LICENSE, and is| | available at through the world-wide-web at | | http://www.zend.com/license/2_00.txt. | | If you did not receive a copy of the Zend license and are unable to | | obtain it through the world-wide-web,
