[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: RT: Ideas to take from JAMES and Mail Scripting

2004-04-18 Thread spiritualmechanic
Until you get -- and I thought you were planning to be one of us? Membership in the 
us is low, just send real good code :-)

I'm just trying to be humble and not make any assumptions about anything. I want to 
help where I can. Why do you think there aren't that many people in the U.S.? You'd 
think some of the hotter Java weenies would be available. I definitely don't count 
myself among them. Maybe in 5 years.

Steve

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: RT: Ideas to take from JAMES and Mail Scripting

2004-04-18 Thread spiritualmechanic
http://theserverside.com/blogs/showblog.tss?id=SpringVelocityEmail

Did you see this? I think something like that would be killer. E-mail templates should 
be very useful. We don't use Spring at work, or Velocity for that matter, but I hate 
our sections of code that are like

if (fail) {
  // Big nasty JavaMail mess
}

Even for mass mailouts on certain events, it'd be much cleaner that way.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: RT: Ideas to take from JAMES and Mail Scripting

2004-04-18 Thread acoliver
If you build it they will come.  You'll find that as the project becomes more 
functional recruiting will go up.  The velocity email templates look okay on the 
JavaMail side, but still looks a little ugly if you ask me.  Not sure what I prefer.  
I'll have to ponder it.  Velocity seems ideal for mail merge templates but maybe 
something even simpler like JavaScript setting of properties and a simple ${blabla} on 
a text or html page. I suppose once you start doing ifs and loops you're probably at 
velocity anyhow  I guess I just wish velocity had chosen to escape with something 
else other than the # which occurs more frequently in mails...But its definitely an 
idea.  The template part..  the Spring/XML part looks like some nasty plumbing to me.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: RT: Ideas to take from JAMES and Mail Scripting

2004-04-18 Thread spiritualmechanic
If you build it they will come. I agree.

I'll take a second look at it, to see what we might want to do. I don't use Spring or 
Velocity currently. A long time ago I used WebMacro, when servlets first came out, but 
I haven't used that in ages.

Maybe we need some sort of combined approach, or something. I don't really want to use 
a big nasty XSLT transformation engine type thing.

Steve

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: RT: Ideas to take from JAMES and Mail Scripting

2004-04-18 Thread acoliver
spiritualmechanic wrote : I don't really want to use a big nasty XSLT transformation 
engine type thing.

You said it!  Yuck-eee.  Any templating solution should be easy as pie.  This should 
plug in with mail scripting/matchers/mailets I think.  Of course first we really need 
mail list support.

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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: RT: Ideas to take from JAMES and Mail Scripting

2004-04-17 Thread spiritualmechanic
Have you heard of Groovy? Apparently it's a newer Java-based scripting language that 
doesn't have the funkiness of Jython syntax. Javascript would be adequate I think. 
Probably more admin friendly.

WWMCSED? What would MCSEs do? ;-)

Hit my blog here: Links for Andy's links all together in linkable form.

Steve

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2004-04-17 Thread spiritualmechanic
I like the idea of a mail solutions framework. Until you get the Exchange 
functionality going that will probably be the bread and butter.

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2004-04-17 Thread acoliver
Until you get -- and I thought you were planning to be one of us?  Membership in the 
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[JBoss-dev] [Mail Services] - Re: RT: Ideas to take from JAMES and Mail Scripting

2004-04-17 Thread acoliver
As you said, JavaScript is probably adequate for the task and more admin friendly.  It 
may be possible to support multiple scripting languages provided they support limiting 
their domain.  Meaning I only want you to script what I expose to you nothing more.  
JavaScript (aka ECMA) is probably a must if we intend for admins/power-admins to be 
able to write things like matchers.  

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