Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Jakub Bocheński]

Found https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/INFRA-2319

On Friday, November 15, 2019 at 5:26:56 PM UTC+1, Jakub Bocheński wrote:
>
> Hi, I tried to register
> After recovering the email from my spam folder I clicked "I want to 
> participate" but I get an error
>
> > Your participation can't be confirmed, please contact a Jenkins 
> administrator
>
> Is this the right place to "contact a Jenkins administrator"?
>

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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Jakub Bocheński]

Hi, I tried to register
After recovering the email from my spam folder I clicked "I want to 
participate" but I get an error

> Your participation can't be confirmed, please contact a Jenkins 
administrator

Is this the right place to "contact a Jenkins administrator"?

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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Robert Sandell]

> Have you checked in your spam folder in your corporate email address?

Yes, twice and searched through the rest of my account in case it was
routed to some strange folder.
And then I searched again with a closer look and it turned out it had been
hidden in the middle of the cert team's conversation :)
Sorry for the false alarm.

/B

Den ons 13 nov. 2019 kl 13:06 skrev Olblak :

> I haven't received any email to register for voting, at least not a
> personal one. I've received two to various group mailing lists but not one
> connected to my Jenkins account.
>
>
> Have you checked in your spam folder in your corporate email address?
> I see that your account uses your corporate email address and also that
> you didn't confirm your participation
> Did you receive an email from 'electi...@jenkins.io'
>
> ---
> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
> ---
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Robert Sandell wrote:
>
> I haven't received any email to register for voting, at least not a
> personal one. I've received two to various group mailing lists but not one
> connected to my Jenkins account.
>
> /B
>
> Den mån 11 nov. 2019 kl 20:50 skrev Tracy Miranda  >:
>
> Marky - thanks for the kind words.
>
> Olivier - thanks for the detailed stats - 730 registered, 
> Somehow I also find the 0.01% spam reports strangely comforting - we spend
> a non-zero amount of time worrying how best not to be spammy - good to see
> it is worth worrying about but the numbers put it in the right perspective.
>
> Tracy
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olblak  wrote:
>
>
> Hey,
> Some updates with the actual campaign to identify contributors interested
> by participating to the election
>
> Currently they are 730 people who successfully registered for the next
> stage
>
> And here some stats from Sendgrid regarding all the emails sent since
> yesterday, obviously those numbers should still evolve.
> So it's too early to take conclusion
>
> 90,684: Requests
> 9,316: Bounces
> 80,971: Delivered
> 13,734: Unique Opens
> 974: Unique Clicks
> 611: Unsubscribes
> 6: Spam Reports
>
>
> ---
> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
> ---
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
>
> This is an admirable thing to do Tracy and speaks immensely to your
> dedication to this project and as a leader, *I HUGELY ADMIRE YOU*
>
> On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-8, Tracy Miranda wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Here's a post on jenkins.io with election update
> https://jenkins.io/blog/2019/11/08/board-elections/ and what to expect
> next.
> Thanks to Mark Waite for helping with this & Oleg for reviews.
>
> Also I have withdrawn my candidacy for a board seat as I am doing a bunch
> behind the scenes with voter registration, etc and would like to stay
> focussed on overseeing the election process fairly.
> I expect in my role as CDF board member to work closely with the new board
> and help out wherever I can to keep things moving forward in Jenkins.
>
> Tracy
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:37 PM Tracy Miranda 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We're now in a good position to start sending out voter registration
> emails. Please look out for an email from electi...@jenkins.io with the
> title ‘2019 Jenkins Election - Invitation to Participate’.
> The email will have details on how to register to vote for the elections.
> Please note we will likely be sending out emails in batches so over the
> course of the next few days.
> Once they are all sent I will confirm on the dev list so we can
> troubleshoot for anyone who has not received an email.
> Thanks again to Olivier for pulling together a lot of the pieces to make
> this happen!
>
> Thanks,
> Tracy
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Olblak  wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> As far as I know, there is no jira ticket and it's a good point that we
> should have that
> As I said several days ago, I wrote a simple application to collect email
> and we are testing that approach at the moment with a a small group of
> people. Basically they received an email inviting them to participate to
> the election
>
> To recall the process
>
> Step 1:
> We send an email to every jenkins account containing a link to '
> https://polls.jenkins.io/#/participate', mentioning your email account,
> your unique token, and and poll id
> Step2:
> After a period, every members who confirmed there participation, are
> invited in the Condorcet tool to participate to the election.
>
>
> ---
> -> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
> ---
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Daniel Beck wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On 28. Oct 2019, at 21:44, Tracy Miranda 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
> > >
> >
> > Given that it's Nov 1, where are we with this?
> >
> > Are there Jira (or GH) issues tracking progress of this entire process,
> > that someone interested, but not involved, could follow?
> >
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Olblak]

We know the vote id as it was share on that mailing list but we can't know who 
cast the vote on behalf of jenkins-cert. I don't know if we can invalidate a 
specific vote based on the vote id.


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On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, at 2:40 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
> Is there a way to know who cast that vote? This is concerning from a 
> transparency perspective.
> My hope is that a document is being kept regarding issues faced during this 
> entire process so it can become part of a hopeful retrospective, and that 
> this is all done in the open. Items like the ones faced can cause concern of 
> fair outcomes of voting for this project and having that shadow cast upon an 
> OSS project is not a good look.
> Just my $.2
> 
> On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 5:25:54 AM UTC-8, Olblak wrote:
>> Apparently, 'jenkins...@googlegroups.com' endup in the participation list, 
>> so the first person who clicked on the email was able to cast an additional 
>> vote on behalf of 'jenkinsci-cert mailing list'.
>> We still have some improvement to identify unique contributors
>> 
>> ---
>> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>> ---
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Olblak wrote:
 I haven't received any email to register for voting, at least not a 
 personal one. I've received two to various group mailing lists but not one 
 connected to my Jenkins account.
>>> 
>>> Have you checked in your spam folder in your corporate email address? 
>>> I see that your account uses your corporate email address and also that you 
>>> didn't confirm your participation
>>> Did you receive an email from 'elec...@jenkins.io'
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Robert Sandell wrote:
 I haven't received any email to register for voting, at least not a 
 personal one. I've received two to various group mailing lists but not one 
 connected to my Jenkins account.
 
 /B
 
 Den mån 11 nov. 2019 kl 20:50 skrev Tracy Miranda :
> Marky - thanks for the kind words.
> 
> Olivier - thanks for the detailed stats - 730 registered, 
> Somehow I also find the 0.01% spam reports strangely comforting - we 
> spend a non-zero amount of time worrying how best not to be spammy - good 
> to see it is worth worrying about but the numbers put it in the right 
> perspective. 
> 
> Tracy
> 
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olblak  wrote:
>> __
>> Hey,
>> Some updates with the actual campaign to identify contributors 
>> interested by participating to the election
>> 
>> Currently they are 730 people who successfully registered for the next 
>> stage
>> 
>> And here some stats from Sendgrid regarding all the emails sent since 
>> yesterday, obviously those numbers should still evolve.
>> So it's too early to take conclusion
>> 
>>> 90,684: Requests
>>> 9,316: Bounces
>>> 80,971: Delivered
>>> 13,734: Unique Opens
>>> 974: Unique Clicks
>>> 611: Unsubscribes
>>> 6: Spam Reports
>> 
>> ---
>> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>> ---
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
>>> This is an admirable thing to do Tracy and speaks immensely to your 
>>> dedication to this project and as a leader, *_I HUGELY ADMIRE YOU_*
>>> 
>>> On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-8, Tracy Miranda wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Here's a post on jenkins.io with election update 
 https://jenkins.io/blog/2019/11/08/board-elections/ and what to expect 
 next. 
 Thanks to Mark Waite for helping with this & Oleg for reviews. 
 
 Also I have withdrawn my candidacy for a board seat as I am doing a 
 bunch behind the scenes with voter registration, etc and would like to 
 stay focussed on overseeing the election process fairly. 
 I expect in my role as CDF board member to work closely with the new 
 board and help out wherever I can to keep things moving forward in 
 Jenkins.
 
 Tracy
 
 On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:37 PM Tracy Miranda  
 wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> We're now in a good position to start sending out voter registration 
> emails. Please look out for an email from electi...@jenkins.io with 
> the title ‘2019 Jenkins Election - Invitation to Participate’.
> The email will have details on how to register to vote for the 
> elections. Please note we will likely be sending out emails in 
> batches so over the course of the next few days. 
> Once they are all sent I will confirm on the dev list so we can 
> troubleshoot for anyone who has not received an email.
> Thanks 

Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Marky Jackson]

Is there a way to know who cast that vote? This is concerning from a 
transparency perspective.
My hope is that a document is being kept regarding issues faced during this 
entire process so it can become part of a hopeful retrospective, and that 
this is all done in the open. Items like the ones faced can cause concern 
of fair outcomes of voting for this project and having that shadow cast 
upon an OSS project is not a good look.
Just my $.2

On Wednesday, November 13, 2019 at 5:25:54 AM UTC-8, Olblak wrote:
>
> Apparently, 'jenkins...@googlegroups.com ' endup in the 
> participation list, so the first person who clicked on the email was able 
> to cast an additional vote on behalf of 'jenkinsci-cert mailing list'.
> We still have some improvement to identify unique contributors
>
> ---
> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
> ---
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Olblak wrote:
>
> I haven't received any email to register for voting, at least not a 
> personal one. I've received two to various group mailing lists but not one 
> connected to my Jenkins account.
>
>
> Have you checked in your spam folder in your corporate email address? 
> I see that your account uses your corporate email address and also that 
> you didn't confirm your participation
> Did you receive an email from 'elec...@jenkins.io '
>
> ---
> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
> ---
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Robert Sandell wrote:
>
> I haven't received any email to register for voting, at least not a 
> personal one. I've received two to various group mailing lists but not one 
> connected to my Jenkins account.
>
> /B
>
> Den mån 11 nov. 2019 kl 20:50 skrev Tracy Miranda  >:
>
> Marky - thanks for the kind words.
>
> Olivier - thanks for the detailed stats - 730 registered, 
> Somehow I also find the 0.01% spam reports strangely comforting - we spend 
> a non-zero amount of time worrying how best not to be spammy - good to see 
> it is worth worrying about but the numbers put it in the right perspective. 
>
> Tracy
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olblak > 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hey,
> Some updates with the actual campaign to identify contributors interested 
> by participating to the election
>
> Currently they are 730 people who successfully registered for the next 
> stage
>
> And here some stats from Sendgrid regarding all the emails sent since 
> yesterday, obviously those numbers should still evolve.
> So it's too early to take conclusion
>
> 90,684: Requests
> 9,316: Bounces
> 80,971: Delivered
> 13,734: Unique Opens
> 974: Unique Clicks
> 611: Unsubscribes
> 6: Spam Reports
>
>
> ---
> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
> ---
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
>
> This is an admirable thing to do Tracy and speaks immensely to your 
> dedication to this project and as a leader, *I HUGELY ADMIRE YOU*
>
> On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-8, Tracy Miranda wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Here's a post on jenkins.io with election update 
> https://jenkins.io/blog/2019/11/08/board-elections/ and what to expect 
> next. 
> Thanks to Mark Waite for helping with this & Oleg for reviews. 
>
> Also I have withdrawn my candidacy for a board seat as I am doing a bunch 
> behind the scenes with voter registration, etc and would like to stay 
> focussed on overseeing the election process fairly. 
> I expect in my role as CDF board member to work closely with the new board 
> and help out wherever I can to keep things moving forward in Jenkins.
>
> Tracy
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:37 PM Tracy Miranda  
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We're now in a good position to start sending out voter registration 
> emails. Please look out for an email from electi...@jenkins.io with the 
> title ‘2019 Jenkins Election - Invitation to Participate’.
> The email will have details on how to register to vote for the elections. 
> Please note we will likely be sending out emails in batches so over the 
> course of the next few days. 
> Once they are all sent I will confirm on the dev list so we can 
> troubleshoot for anyone who has not received an email.
> Thanks again to Olivier for pulling together a lot of the pieces to make 
> this happen! 
>
> Thanks,
> Tracy
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Olblak  wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel, 
>
> As far as I know, there is no jira ticket and it's a good point that we 
> should have that
> As I said several days ago, I wrote a simple application to collect email 
> and we are testing that approach at the moment with a a small group of 
> people. Basically they received an email inviting them to participate to 
> the election
>
> To recall the process
>
> Step 1: 
> We send an email to every jenkins account containing a link to '
> https://polls.jenkins.io/#/participate', mentioning your email account, 
> your unique token, and and poll id
> Step2:
> After a period, every members who confirmed there participation, are 
> invited in the 

Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Olblak]

Apparently, 'jenkinsci-c...@googlegroups.com' endup in the participation list, 
so the first person who clicked on the email was able to cast an additional 
vote on behalf of 'jenkinsci-cert mailing list'.
We still have some improvement to identify unique contributors

---
gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
---


On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Olblak wrote:
>> I haven't received any email to register for voting, at least not a personal 
>> one. I've received two to various group mailing lists but not one connected 
>> to my Jenkins account.
> 
> Have you checked in your spam folder in your corporate email address? 
> I see that your account uses your corporate email address and also that you 
> didn't confirm your participation
> Did you receive an email from 'electi...@jenkins.io'
> 
> ---
> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
> ---
> 
> 
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Robert Sandell wrote:
>> I haven't received any email to register for voting, at least not a personal 
>> one. I've received two to various group mailing lists but not one connected 
>> to my Jenkins account.
>> 
>> /B
>> 
>> Den mån 11 nov. 2019 kl 20:50 skrev Tracy Miranda :
>>> Marky - thanks for the kind words.
>>> 
>>> Olivier - thanks for the detailed stats - 730 registered, 
>>> Somehow I also find the 0.01% spam reports strangely comforting - we spend 
>>> a non-zero amount of time worrying how best not to be spammy - good to see 
>>> it is worth worrying about but the numbers put it in the right perspective. 
>>> 
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olblak  wrote:
 __
 Hey,
 Some updates with the actual campaign to identify contributors interested 
 by participating to the election
 
 Currently they are 730 people who successfully registered for the next 
 stage
 
 And here some stats from Sendgrid regarding all the emails sent since 
 yesterday, obviously those numbers should still evolve.
 So it's too early to take conclusion
 
> 90,684: Requests
> 9,316: Bounces
> 80,971: Delivered
> 13,734: Unique Opens
> 974: Unique Clicks
> 611: Unsubscribes
> 6: Spam Reports
 
 ---
 gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
 ---
 
 
 On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
> This is an admirable thing to do Tracy and speaks immensely to your 
> dedication to this project and as a leader, *_I HUGELY ADMIRE YOU_*
> 
> On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-8, Tracy Miranda wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Here's a post on jenkins.io with election update 
>> https://jenkins.io/blog/2019/11/08/board-elections/ and what to expect 
>> next. 
>> Thanks to Mark Waite for helping with this & Oleg for reviews. 
>> 
>> Also I have withdrawn my candidacy for a board seat as I am doing a 
>> bunch behind the scenes with voter registration, etc and would like to 
>> stay focussed on overseeing the election process fairly. 
>> I expect in my role as CDF board member to work closely with the new 
>> board and help out wherever I can to keep things moving forward in 
>> Jenkins.
>> 
>> Tracy
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:37 PM Tracy Miranda  
>> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> We're now in a good position to start sending out voter registration 
>>> emails. Please look out for an email from electi...@jenkins.io with the 
>>> title ‘2019 Jenkins Election - Invitation to Participate’.
>>> The email will have details on how to register to vote for the 
>>> elections. Please note we will likely be sending out emails in batches 
>>> so over the course of the next few days. 
>>> Once they are all sent I will confirm on the dev list so we can 
>>> troubleshoot for anyone who has not received an email.
>>> Thanks again to Olivier for pulling together a lot of the pieces to 
>>> make this happen! 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Olblak  wrote:
 Hi Daniel, 
 
 As far as I know, there is no jira ticket and it's a good point that 
 we should have that
 As I said several days ago, I wrote a simple application to collect 
 email and we are testing that approach at the moment with a a small 
 group of people. Basically they received an email inviting them to 
 participate to the election
 
 To recall the process
 
 Step 1: 
 We send an email to every jenkins account containing a link to 
 'https://polls.jenkins.io/#/participate', mentioning your email 
 account, your unique token, and and poll id
 Step2:
 After a period, every members who confirmed there participation, are 
 invited in the Condorcet tool to participate to the election.
 
 

Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Olblak]

> I haven't received any email to register for voting, at least not a personal 
> one. I've received two to various group mailing lists but not one connected 
> to my Jenkins account.

Have you checked in your spam folder in your corporate email address? 
I see that your account uses your corporate email address and also that you 
didn't confirm your participation
Did you receive an email from 'electi...@jenkins.io'

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gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
---


On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Robert Sandell wrote:
> I haven't received any email to register for voting, at least not a personal 
> one. I've received two to various group mailing lists but not one connected 
> to my Jenkins account.
> 
> /B
> 
> Den mån 11 nov. 2019 kl 20:50 skrev Tracy Miranda :
>> Marky - thanks for the kind words.
>> 
>> Olivier - thanks for the detailed stats - 730 registered, 
>> Somehow I also find the 0.01% spam reports strangely comforting - we spend a 
>> non-zero amount of time worrying how best not to be spammy - good to see it 
>> is worth worrying about but the numbers put it in the right perspective. 
>> 
>> Tracy
>> 
>> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olblak  wrote:
>>> __
>>> Hey,
>>> Some updates with the actual campaign to identify contributors interested 
>>> by participating to the election
>>> 
>>> Currently they are 730 people who successfully registered for the next stage
>>> 
>>> And here some stats from Sendgrid regarding all the emails sent since 
>>> yesterday, obviously those numbers should still evolve.
>>> So it's too early to take conclusion
>>> 
 90,684: Requests
 9,316: Bounces
 80,971: Delivered
 13,734: Unique Opens
 974: Unique Clicks
 611: Unsubscribes
 6: Spam Reports
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
 This is an admirable thing to do Tracy and speaks immensely to your 
 dedication to this project and as a leader, *_I HUGELY ADMIRE YOU_*
 
 On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-8, Tracy Miranda wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> Here's a post on jenkins.io with election update 
> https://jenkins.io/blog/2019/11/08/board-elections/ and what to expect 
> next. 
> Thanks to Mark Waite for helping with this & Oleg for reviews. 
> 
> Also I have withdrawn my candidacy for a board seat as I am doing a bunch 
> behind the scenes with voter registration, etc and would like to stay 
> focussed on overseeing the election process fairly. 
> I expect in my role as CDF board member to work closely with the new 
> board and help out wherever I can to keep things moving forward in 
> Jenkins.
> 
> Tracy
> 
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:37 PM Tracy Miranda  
> wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> We're now in a good position to start sending out voter registration 
>> emails. Please look out for an email from electi...@jenkins.io with the 
>> title ‘2019 Jenkins Election - Invitation to Participate’.
>> The email will have details on how to register to vote for the 
>> elections. Please note we will likely be sending out emails in batches 
>> so over the course of the next few days. 
>> Once they are all sent I will confirm on the dev list so we can 
>> troubleshoot for anyone who has not received an email.
>> Thanks again to Olivier for pulling together a lot of the pieces to make 
>> this happen! 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Tracy
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Olblak  wrote:
>>> Hi Daniel, 
>>> 
>>> As far as I know, there is no jira ticket and it's a good point that we 
>>> should have that
>>> As I said several days ago, I wrote a simple application to collect 
>>> email and we are testing that approach at the moment with a a small 
>>> group of people. Basically they received an email inviting them to 
>>> participate to the election
>>> 
>>> To recall the process
>>> 
>>> Step 1: 
>>> We send an email to every jenkins account containing a link to 
>>> 'https://polls.jenkins.io/#/participate', mentioning your email 
>>> account, your unique token, and and poll id
>>> Step2:
>>> After a period, every members who confirmed there participation, are 
>>> invited in the Condorcet tool to participate to the election.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> ---
>>> -> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>>> ---
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Daniel Beck wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > > On 28. Oct 2019, at 21:44, Tracy Miranda  
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > > 
>>> > > Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
>>> > > 
>>> > 
>>> > Given that it's Nov 1, where are we with this?
>>> > 
>>> > Are there Jira (or GH) issues tracking progress of this entire 
>>> > process, 
>>> > 

Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Robert Sandell]

I haven't received any email to register for voting, at least not a
personal one. I've received two to various group mailing lists but not one
connected to my Jenkins account.

/B

Den mån 11 nov. 2019 kl 20:50 skrev Tracy Miranda :

> Marky - thanks for the kind words.
>
> Olivier - thanks for the detailed stats - 730 registered, 
> Somehow I also find the 0.01% spam reports strangely comforting - we spend
> a non-zero amount of time worrying how best not to be spammy - good to see
> it is worth worrying about but the numbers put it in the right perspective.
>
> Tracy
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olblak  wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>> Some updates with the actual campaign to identify contributors interested
>> by participating to the election
>>
>> Currently they are 730 people who successfully registered for the next
>> stage
>>
>> And here some stats from Sendgrid regarding all the emails sent since
>> yesterday, obviously those numbers should still evolve.
>> So it's too early to take conclusion
>>
>> 90,684: Requests
>> 9,316: Bounces
>> 80,971: Delivered
>> 13,734: Unique Opens
>> 974: Unique Clicks
>> 611: Unsubscribes
>> 6: Spam Reports
>>
>>
>> ---
>> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>> ---
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
>>
>> This is an admirable thing to do Tracy and speaks immensely to your
>> dedication to this project and as a leader, *I HUGELY ADMIRE YOU*
>>
>> On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-8, Tracy Miranda wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Here's a post on jenkins.io with election update
>> https://jenkins.io/blog/2019/11/08/board-elections/ and what to expect
>> next.
>> Thanks to Mark Waite for helping with this & Oleg for reviews.
>>
>> Also I have withdrawn my candidacy for a board seat as I am doing a bunch
>> behind the scenes with voter registration, etc and would like to stay
>> focussed on overseeing the election process fairly.
>> I expect in my role as CDF board member to work closely with the new
>> board and help out wherever I can to keep things moving forward in Jenkins.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:37 PM Tracy Miranda 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We're now in a good position to start sending out voter registration
>> emails. Please look out for an email from electi...@jenkins.io with the
>> title ‘2019 Jenkins Election - Invitation to Participate’.
>> The email will have details on how to register to vote for the elections.
>> Please note we will likely be sending out emails in batches so over the
>> course of the next few days.
>> Once they are all sent I will confirm on the dev list so we can
>> troubleshoot for anyone who has not received an email.
>> Thanks again to Olivier for pulling together a lot of the pieces to make
>> this happen!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Olblak  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> As far as I know, there is no jira ticket and it's a good point that we
>> should have that
>> As I said several days ago, I wrote a simple application to collect email
>> and we are testing that approach at the moment with a a small group of
>> people. Basically they received an email inviting them to participate to
>> the election
>>
>> To recall the process
>>
>> Step 1:
>> We send an email to every jenkins account containing a link to '
>> https://polls.jenkins.io/#/participate', mentioning your email account,
>> your unique token, and and poll id
>> Step2:
>> After a period, every members who confirmed there participation, are
>> invited in the Condorcet tool to participate to the election.
>>
>>
>> ---
>> -> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>> ---
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Daniel Beck wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > > On 28. Oct 2019, at 21:44, Tracy Miranda 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
>> > >
>> >
>> > Given that it's Nov 1, where are we with this?
>> >
>> > Are there Jira (or GH) issues tracking progress of this entire process,
>> > that someone interested, but not involved, could follow?
>> >
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Kohsuke Kawaguchi]

I've updated the nominee personal statement

to reflect the withdrawal of Tracy.

On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 11:50 AM Tracy Miranda 
wrote:

> Marky - thanks for the kind words.
>
> Olivier - thanks for the detailed stats - 730 registered, 
> Somehow I also find the 0.01% spam reports strangely comforting - we spend
> a non-zero amount of time worrying how best not to be spammy - good to see
> it is worth worrying about but the numbers put it in the right perspective.
>
> Tracy
>
> On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olblak  wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>> Some updates with the actual campaign to identify contributors interested
>> by participating to the election
>>
>> Currently they are 730 people who successfully registered for the next
>> stage
>>
>> And here some stats from Sendgrid regarding all the emails sent since
>> yesterday, obviously those numbers should still evolve.
>> So it's too early to take conclusion
>>
>> 90,684: Requests
>> 9,316: Bounces
>> 80,971: Delivered
>> 13,734: Unique Opens
>> 974: Unique Clicks
>> 611: Unsubscribes
>> 6: Spam Reports
>>
>>
>> ---
>> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>> ---
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
>>
>> This is an admirable thing to do Tracy and speaks immensely to your
>> dedication to this project and as a leader, *I HUGELY ADMIRE YOU*
>>
>> On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-8, Tracy Miranda wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Here's a post on jenkins.io with election update
>> https://jenkins.io/blog/2019/11/08/board-elections/ and what to expect
>> next.
>> Thanks to Mark Waite for helping with this & Oleg for reviews.
>>
>> Also I have withdrawn my candidacy for a board seat as I am doing a bunch
>> behind the scenes with voter registration, etc and would like to stay
>> focussed on overseeing the election process fairly.
>> I expect in my role as CDF board member to work closely with the new
>> board and help out wherever I can to keep things moving forward in Jenkins.
>>
>> Tracy
>>
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:37 PM Tracy Miranda 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We're now in a good position to start sending out voter registration
>> emails. Please look out for an email from electi...@jenkins.io with the
>> title ‘2019 Jenkins Election - Invitation to Participate’.
>> The email will have details on how to register to vote for the elections.
>> Please note we will likely be sending out emails in batches so over the
>> course of the next few days.
>> Once they are all sent I will confirm on the dev list so we can
>> troubleshoot for anyone who has not received an email.
>> Thanks again to Olivier for pulling together a lot of the pieces to make
>> this happen!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Olblak  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> As far as I know, there is no jira ticket and it's a good point that we
>> should have that
>> As I said several days ago, I wrote a simple application to collect email
>> and we are testing that approach at the moment with a a small group of
>> people. Basically they received an email inviting them to participate to
>> the election
>>
>> To recall the process
>>
>> Step 1:
>> We send an email to every jenkins account containing a link to '
>> https://polls.jenkins.io/#/participate', mentioning your email account,
>> your unique token, and and poll id
>> Step2:
>> After a period, every members who confirmed there participation, are
>> invited in the Condorcet tool to participate to the election.
>>
>>
>> ---
>> -> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>> ---
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Daniel Beck wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > > On 28. Oct 2019, at 21:44, Tracy Miranda 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
>> > >
>> >
>> > Given that it's Nov 1, where are we with this?
>> >
>> > Are there Jira (or GH) issues tracking progress of this entire process,
>> > that someone interested, but not involved, could follow?
>> >
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Tracy Miranda]

Marky - thanks for the kind words.

Olivier - thanks for the detailed stats - 730 registered, 
Somehow I also find the 0.01% spam reports strangely comforting - we spend
a non-zero amount of time worrying how best not to be spammy - good to see
it is worth worrying about but the numbers put it in the right perspective.

Tracy

On Sat, Nov 9, 2019 at 11:34 AM Olblak  wrote:

> Hey,
> Some updates with the actual campaign to identify contributors interested
> by participating to the election
>
> Currently they are 730 people who successfully registered for the next
> stage
>
> And here some stats from Sendgrid regarding all the emails sent since
> yesterday, obviously those numbers should still evolve.
> So it's too early to take conclusion
>
> 90,684: Requests
> 9,316: Bounces
> 80,971: Delivered
> 13,734: Unique Opens
> 974: Unique Clicks
> 611: Unsubscribes
> 6: Spam Reports
>
>
> ---
> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
> ---
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
>
> This is an admirable thing to do Tracy and speaks immensely to your
> dedication to this project and as a leader, *I HUGELY ADMIRE YOU*
>
> On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-8, Tracy Miranda wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Here's a post on jenkins.io with election update
> https://jenkins.io/blog/2019/11/08/board-elections/ and what to expect
> next.
> Thanks to Mark Waite for helping with this & Oleg for reviews.
>
> Also I have withdrawn my candidacy for a board seat as I am doing a bunch
> behind the scenes with voter registration, etc and would like to stay
> focussed on overseeing the election process fairly.
> I expect in my role as CDF board member to work closely with the new board
> and help out wherever I can to keep things moving forward in Jenkins.
>
> Tracy
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:37 PM Tracy Miranda 
> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We're now in a good position to start sending out voter registration
> emails. Please look out for an email from electi...@jenkins.io with the
> title ‘2019 Jenkins Election - Invitation to Participate’.
> The email will have details on how to register to vote for the elections.
> Please note we will likely be sending out emails in batches so over the
> course of the next few days.
> Once they are all sent I will confirm on the dev list so we can
> troubleshoot for anyone who has not received an email.
> Thanks again to Olivier for pulling together a lot of the pieces to make
> this happen!
>
> Thanks,
> Tracy
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Olblak  wrote:
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> As far as I know, there is no jira ticket and it's a good point that we
> should have that
> As I said several days ago, I wrote a simple application to collect email
> and we are testing that approach at the moment with a a small group of
> people. Basically they received an email inviting them to participate to
> the election
>
> To recall the process
>
> Step 1:
> We send an email to every jenkins account containing a link to '
> https://polls.jenkins.io/#/participate', mentioning your email account,
> your unique token, and and poll id
> Step2:
> After a period, every members who confirmed there participation, are
> invited in the Condorcet tool to participate to the election.
>
>
> ---
> -> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
> ---
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Daniel Beck wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On 28. Oct 2019, at 21:44, Tracy Miranda 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
> > >
> >
> > Given that it's Nov 1, where are we with this?
> >
> > Are there Jira (or GH) issues tracking progress of this entire process,
> > that someone interested, but not involved, could follow?
> >
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Olblak]

Hey,
Some updates with the actual campaign to identify contributors interested by 
participating to the election

Currently they are 730 people who successfully registered for the next stage

And here some stats from Sendgrid regarding all the emails sent since 
yesterday, obviously those numbers should still evolve.
So it's too early to take conclusion

> 90,684: Requests
> 9,316: Bounces
> 80,971: Delivered
> 13,734: Unique Opens
> 974: Unique Clicks
> 611: Unsubscribes
> 6: Spam Reports

---
gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
---


On Fri, Nov 8, 2019, at 7:54 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
> This is an admirable thing to do Tracy and speaks immensely to your 
> dedication to this project and as a leader, *_I HUGELY ADMIRE YOU_*
> 
> On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-8, Tracy Miranda wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Here's a post on jenkins.io with election update 
>> https://jenkins.io/blog/2019/11/08/board-elections/ and what to expect next. 
>> Thanks to Mark Waite for helping with this & Oleg for reviews. 
>> 
>> Also I have withdrawn my candidacy for a board seat as I am doing a bunch 
>> behind the scenes with voter registration, etc and would like to stay 
>> focussed on overseeing the election process fairly. 
>> I expect in my role as CDF board member to work closely with the new board 
>> and help out wherever I can to keep things moving forward in Jenkins.
>> 
>> Tracy
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:37 PM Tracy Miranda  wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> We're now in a good position to start sending out voter registration 
>>> emails. Please look out for an email from electi...@jenkins.io with the 
>>> title ‘2019 Jenkins Election - Invitation to Participate’.
>>> The email will have details on how to register to vote for the elections. 
>>> Please note we will likely be sending out emails in batches so over the 
>>> course of the next few days. 
>>> Once they are all sent I will confirm on the dev list so we can 
>>> troubleshoot for anyone who has not received an email.
>>> Thanks again to Olivier for pulling together a lot of the pieces to make 
>>> this happen! 
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Olblak  wrote:
 Hi Daniel, 
 
  As far as I know, there is no jira ticket and it's a good point that we 
 should have that
  As I said several days ago, I wrote a simple application to collect email 
 and we are testing that approach at the moment with a a small group of 
 people. Basically they received an email inviting them to participate to 
 the election
 
  To recall the process
 
  Step 1: 
  We send an email to every jenkins account containing a link to 
 'https://polls.jenkins.io/#/participate', mentioning your email account, 
 your unique token, and and poll id
  Step2:
  After a period, every members who confirmed there participation, are 
 invited in the Condorcet tool to participate to the election.
 
 
  ---
  -> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
  ---
 
  On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Daniel Beck wrote:
  > 
  > 
  > > On 28. Oct 2019, at 21:44, Tracy Miranda  
 wrote:
  > > 
  > > Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
  > > 
  > 
  > Given that it's Nov 1, where are we with this?
  > 
  > Are there Jira (or GH) issues tracking progress of this entire process, 
  > that someone interested, but not involved, could follow?
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Marky Jackson]

This is an admirable thing to do Tracy and speaks immensely to your 
dedication to this project and as a leader, *I HUGELY ADMIRE YOU*

On Friday, November 8, 2019 at 6:28:29 AM UTC-8, Tracy Miranda wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Here's a post on jenkins.io with election update 
> https://jenkins.io/blog/2019/11/08/board-elections/ and what to expect 
> next. 
> Thanks to Mark Waite for helping with this & Oleg for reviews. 
>
> Also I have withdrawn my candidacy for a board seat as I am doing a bunch 
> behind the scenes with voter registration, etc and would like to stay 
> focussed on overseeing the election process fairly. 
> I expect in my role as CDF board member to work closely with the new board 
> and help out wherever I can to keep things moving forward in Jenkins.
>
> Tracy
>
> On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:37 PM Tracy Miranda  > wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We're now in a good position to start sending out voter registration 
>> emails. Please look out for an email from electi...@jenkins.io 
>>  with the title ‘2019 Jenkins Election - Invitation to 
>> Participate’. 
>> The email will have details on how to register to vote for the elections. 
>> Please note we will likely be sending out emails in batches so over the 
>> course of the next few days. 
>> Once they are all sent I will confirm on the dev list so we can 
>> troubleshoot for anyone who has not received an email.
>> Thanks again to Olivier for pulling together a lot of the pieces to make 
>> this happen! 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Olblak > 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Daniel, 
>>>
>>> As far as I know, there is no jira ticket and it's a good point that we 
>>> should have that
>>> As I said several days ago, I wrote a simple application to collect 
>>> email and we are testing that approach at the moment with a a small group 
>>> of people. Basically they received an email inviting them to participate to 
>>> the election
>>>
>>> To recall the process
>>>
>>> Step 1: 
>>> We send an email to every jenkins account containing a link to '
>>> https://polls.jenkins.io/#/participate', mentioning your email account, 
>>> your unique token, and and poll id
>>> Step2:
>>> After a period, every members who confirmed there participation, are 
>>> invited in the Condorcet tool to participate to the election.
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
>>> -> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>>> ---
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Daniel Beck wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > > On 28. Oct 2019, at 21:44, Tracy Miranda >> > wrote:
>>> > > 
>>> > > Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
>>> > > 
>>> > 
>>> > Given that it's Nov 1, where are we with this?
>>> > 
>>> > Are there Jira (or GH) issues tracking progress of this entire 
>>> process, 
>>> > that someone interested, but not involved, could follow?
>>> > 
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Tracy Miranda]

Hi all,

Here's a post on jenkins.io with election update
https://jenkins.io/blog/2019/11/08/board-elections/ and what to expect
next.
Thanks to Mark Waite for helping with this & Oleg for reviews.

Also I have withdrawn my candidacy for a board seat as I am doing a bunch
behind the scenes with voter registration, etc and would like to stay
focussed on overseeing the election process fairly.
I expect in my role as CDF board member to work closely with the new board
and help out wherever I can to keep things moving forward in Jenkins.

Tracy

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019 at 2:37 PM Tracy Miranda  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> We're now in a good position to start sending out voter registration
> emails. Please look out for an email from electi...@jenkins.io with the
> title ‘2019 Jenkins Election - Invitation to Participate’.
> The email will have details on how to register to vote for the elections.
> Please note we will likely be sending out emails in batches so over the
> course of the next few days.
> Once they are all sent I will confirm on the dev list so we can
> troubleshoot for anyone who has not received an email.
> Thanks again to Olivier for pulling together a lot of the pieces to make
> this happen!
>
> Thanks,
> Tracy
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Olblak  wrote:
>
>> Hi Daniel,
>>
>> As far as I know, there is no jira ticket and it's a good point that we
>> should have that
>> As I said several days ago, I wrote a simple application to collect email
>> and we are testing that approach at the moment with a a small group of
>> people. Basically they received an email inviting them to participate to
>> the election
>>
>> To recall the process
>>
>> Step 1:
>> We send an email to every jenkins account containing a link to '
>> https://polls.jenkins.io/#/participate', mentioning your email account,
>> your unique token, and and poll id
>> Step2:
>> After a period, every members who confirmed there participation, are
>> invited in the Condorcet tool to participate to the election.
>>
>>
>> ---
>> -> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>> ---
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Daniel Beck wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > > On 28. Oct 2019, at 21:44, Tracy Miranda 
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
>> > >
>> >
>> > Given that it's Nov 1, where are we with this?
>> >
>> > Are there Jira (or GH) issues tracking progress of this entire process,
>> > that someone interested, but not involved, could follow?
>> >
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Tracy Miranda]

Hi all,

We're now in a good position to start sending out voter registration
emails. Please look out for an email from electi...@jenkins.io with the
title ‘2019 Jenkins Election - Invitation to Participate’.
The email will have details on how to register to vote for the elections.
Please note we will likely be sending out emails in batches so over the
course of the next few days.
Once they are all sent I will confirm on the dev list so we can
troubleshoot for anyone who has not received an email.
Thanks again to Olivier for pulling together a lot of the pieces to make
this happen!

Thanks,
Tracy


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:47 AM Olblak  wrote:

> Hi Daniel,
>
> As far as I know, there is no jira ticket and it's a good point that we
> should have that
> As I said several days ago, I wrote a simple application to collect email
> and we are testing that approach at the moment with a a small group of
> people. Basically they received an email inviting them to participate to
> the election
>
> To recall the process
>
> Step 1:
> We send an email to every jenkins account containing a link to '
> https://polls.jenkins.io/#/participate', mentioning your email account,
> your unique token, and and poll id
> Step2:
> After a period, every members who confirmed there participation, are
> invited in the Condorcet tool to participate to the election.
>
>
> ---
> -> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
> ---
>
> On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Daniel Beck wrote:
> >
> >
> > > On 28. Oct 2019, at 21:44, Tracy Miranda 
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
> > >
> >
> > Given that it's Nov 1, where are we with this?
> >
> > Are there Jira (or GH) issues tracking progress of this entire process,
> > that someone interested, but not involved, could follow?
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Olblak]

Hi Daniel, 

As far as I know, there is no jira ticket and it's a good point that we should 
have that
As I said several days ago, I wrote a simple application to collect email and 
we are testing that approach at the moment with a a small group of people. 
Basically they received an email inviting them to participate to the election

To recall the process

Step 1: 
We send an email to every jenkins account containing a link to 
'https://polls.jenkins.io/#/participate', mentioning your email account, your 
unique token, and and poll id
Step2:
After a period, every members who confirmed there participation, are invited in 
the Condorcet tool to participate to the election.
 

---
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On Fri, Nov 1, 2019, at 2:30 PM, Daniel Beck wrote:
> 
> 
> > On 28. Oct 2019, at 21:44, Tracy Miranda  wrote:
> > 
> > Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
> > 
> 
> Given that it's Nov 1, where are we with this?
> 
> Are there Jira (or GH) issues tracking progress of this entire process, 
> that someone interested, but not involved, could follow?
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Daniel Beck]

> On 28. Oct 2019, at 21:44, Tracy Miranda  wrote:
> 
> Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
> 

Given that it's Nov 1, where are we with this?

Are there Jira (or GH) issues tracking progress of this entire process, that 
someone interested, but not involved, could follow?

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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Kohsuke Kawaguchi]

Just wanted to publicly thank Olivier and Tracy for driving this important
work forward!!

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 1:44 PM Tracy Miranda 
wrote:

> Following on from what Olivier shared, I'd like to propose some update
> dates with a bunch of caveats.
> Looks like, subject to testing and last 10% of things going well we should
> be in a position to start rolling out emails to invite folks to register to
> vote.
> We'll allow ~10 days to make sure we reach everybody before we go ahead
> and open up voting.
> Voting itself will be a 2 week period. Having not done this before might
> be a few obstacles in the way but for now this seems reasonable to me.
> Which means we are on target for new reps announced first week of Dec -
> which will be contributor summit/JenkinsWorld.
>
> Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
> Nov 11, 2019: Voting begins
> Nov 24th, 2019: Voting closes at 5pm Pacific Time
> Dec 3rd, 2019: New representatives announced
>
> Let me know thoughts and will keep folks posted as we keep pressing to
> make this happen.
>
> Tracy
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:00 AM Matt Sicker 
> wrote:
>
>> In case it's helpful, at Apache, we use a custom voting application:
>> https://steve.apache.org/
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 7:01 AM Rick  wrote:
>>
>>> I can be a volunteer to help to maintain the poll application.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 5:07 PM Olblak  wrote:
>>>
 Hi Everybody,

 I would like to bring additional information regarding the election
 specifically about infrastructure challenges.
 As you know since we can't invite 100.000 emails addresses, in the
 condorcet voting tool, we are looking for ways to reduce that number by
 identifying contributors interested to participate to the election while
 getting rid of bots, spammers,etc.

 Until now we identify two ways of doing that,

 *1 - Google Form*

 We send a google form to every jenkins account with a simple question,
 "Would you like to participate (Yes,No)", wait for one week and then use
 those email in the condorcet tool

 While this solution seems to be the simplest one, it also has
 limitation:

1. We need a google account to participate, last time I checked,
one third of Jenkins account were using gmail.com
2. Google forms as limitation about how many email we can send per
day, but we could use another service like sendgrid to send an email 
 with
the form link


 https://support.google.com/docs/thread/11430242?hl=en


 *2 - Custom Application*

 Another solution would be to write a simple application that listen on
 a specific endpoint.
 With the jenkins infra sendgrid account, we send an email to every
 jenkins account, containing a link to validate if the receiver want to
 participate or not.

 I wrote such application prototype here

- https://github.com/olblak/polls -> Application code
- https://github.com/jenkins-infra/charts/pull/54 -> Helm chart to
deploy it


 As a regular contributor, you receive  an email on  addr...@example.com
 containing a link to
 "https://polls.jenkins.io/participate?email=
 =XXX="
 once you click on it, your profile is validated in the database

 As an admin, you can access two endpoints
 GET - /participants?poll=poll_id, to export a csv with every
 participants for a specific poll id

 POST - /participants?poll=poll_id=, this endpoint
 retrieve every jenkins account from ldap  for a specific ldap group,
 generate a unique token for each of them, and then insert the data in a
 postgresql database.

 While I think the custom application will perfectly fit our need, by
 having a form directly from an email,  I am concerned to not have enough
 time to dedicate to that.
 Because it's one thing to write a prototype, it's another to polish it
 and use it at scale.
 If we go down this way, I'll need some volunteer(s) to test and/or
 write some code.

 So I am looking for suggestions on following topics

 1. Is there a better way to collect email's participants for the
 election?
 2. What would be the best approach between custom application versus
 google form?
 3. Is there anybody out there interested to help on this?


 Cheers,

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 ---



 On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:

 After deep consideration I would like to rescind my nomination as
 officer of infra..
 Thank you kindly for the opportunity to even have a shot.



 On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:02 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:


 
 The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as 

Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Kohsuke Kawaguchi]

My apologies for taking a while, but I've updated the doc to reflect this.

On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 3:20 AM Marky Jackson 
wrote:

> After deep consideration I would like to rescind my nomination as officer
> of infra..
> Thank you kindly for the opportunity to even have a shot.
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:02 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
>
>
> 
> The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the
> start of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with
> this many people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.
>
> So the start of voting will be delayed. I currently do not have an ETA,
> but hopefully it shouldn't take too long.
>
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Tracy Miranda]

Following on from what Olivier shared, I'd like to propose some update
dates with a bunch of caveats.
Looks like, subject to testing and last 10% of things going well we should
be in a position to start rolling out emails to invite folks to register to
vote.
We'll allow ~10 days to make sure we reach everybody before we go ahead and
open up voting.
Voting itself will be a 2 week period. Having not done this before might be
a few obstacles in the way but for now this seems reasonable to me.
Which means we are on target for new reps announced first week of Dec -
which will be contributor summit/JenkinsWorld.

Oct 31, 2019: Voter registration begins
Nov 11, 2019: Voting begins
Nov 24th, 2019: Voting closes at 5pm Pacific Time
Dec 3rd, 2019: New representatives announced

Let me know thoughts and will keep folks posted as we keep pressing to make
this happen.

Tracy

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 10:00 AM Matt Sicker  wrote:

> In case it's helpful, at Apache, we use a custom voting application:
> https://steve.apache.org/
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 7:01 AM Rick  wrote:
>
>> I can be a volunteer to help to maintain the poll application.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 5:07 PM Olblak  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Everybody,
>>>
>>> I would like to bring additional information regarding the election
>>> specifically about infrastructure challenges.
>>> As you know since we can't invite 100.000 emails addresses, in the
>>> condorcet voting tool, we are looking for ways to reduce that number by
>>> identifying contributors interested to participate to the election while
>>> getting rid of bots, spammers,etc.
>>>
>>> Until now we identify two ways of doing that,
>>>
>>> *1 - Google Form*
>>>
>>> We send a google form to every jenkins account with a simple question,
>>> "Would you like to participate (Yes,No)", wait for one week and then use
>>> those email in the condorcet tool
>>>
>>> While this solution seems to be the simplest one, it also has limitation:
>>>
>>>1. We need a google account to participate, last time I checked, one
>>>third of Jenkins account were using gmail.com
>>>2. Google forms as limitation about how many email we can send per
>>>day, but we could use another service like sendgrid to send an email with
>>>the form link
>>>
>>>
>>> https://support.google.com/docs/thread/11430242?hl=en
>>>
>>>
>>> *2 - Custom Application*
>>>
>>> Another solution would be to write a simple application that listen on a
>>> specific endpoint.
>>> With the jenkins infra sendgrid account, we send an email to every
>>> jenkins account, containing a link to validate if the receiver want to
>>> participate or not.
>>>
>>> I wrote such application prototype here
>>>
>>>- https://github.com/olblak/polls -> Application code
>>>- https://github.com/jenkins-infra/charts/pull/54 -> Helm chart to
>>>deploy it
>>>
>>>
>>> As a regular contributor, you receive  an email on  addr...@example.com
>>> containing a link to
>>> "https://polls.jenkins.io/participate?email=
>>> >> >=XXX="
>>> once you click on it, your profile is validated in the database
>>>
>>> As an admin, you can access two endpoints
>>> GET - /participants?poll=poll_id, to export a csv with every
>>> participants for a specific poll id
>>>
>>> POST - /participants?poll=poll_id=, this endpoint
>>> retrieve every jenkins account from ldap  for a specific ldap group,
>>> generate a unique token for each of them, and then insert the data in a
>>> postgresql database.
>>>
>>> While I think the custom application will perfectly fit our need, by
>>> having a form directly from an email,  I am concerned to not have enough
>>> time to dedicate to that.
>>> Because it's one thing to write a prototype, it's another to polish it
>>> and use it at scale.
>>> If we go down this way, I'll need some volunteer(s) to test and/or write
>>> some code.
>>>
>>> So I am looking for suggestions on following topics
>>>
>>> 1. Is there a better way to collect email's participants for the
>>> election?
>>> 2. What would be the best approach between custom application versus
>>> google form?
>>> 3. Is there anybody out there interested to help on this?
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> ---
>>> -> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>>> ---
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
>>>
>>> After deep consideration I would like to rescind my nomination as
>>> officer of infra..
>>> Thank you kindly for the opportunity to even have a shot.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:02 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the
>>> start of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with
>>> this many people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.
>>>
>>> So the start of voting will be delayed. I currently do not have an ETA,
>>> but hopefully it shouldn't take too long.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi
>>>

Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Matt Sicker]

In case it's helpful, at Apache, we use a custom voting application:
https://steve.apache.org/

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 7:01 AM Rick  wrote:

> I can be a volunteer to help to maintain the poll application.
>
> On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 5:07 PM Olblak  wrote:
>
>> Hi Everybody,
>>
>> I would like to bring additional information regarding the election
>> specifically about infrastructure challenges.
>> As you know since we can't invite 100.000 emails addresses, in the
>> condorcet voting tool, we are looking for ways to reduce that number by
>> identifying contributors interested to participate to the election while
>> getting rid of bots, spammers,etc.
>>
>> Until now we identify two ways of doing that,
>>
>> *1 - Google Form*
>>
>> We send a google form to every jenkins account with a simple question,
>> "Would you like to participate (Yes,No)", wait for one week and then use
>> those email in the condorcet tool
>>
>> While this solution seems to be the simplest one, it also has limitation:
>>
>>1. We need a google account to participate, last time I checked, one
>>third of Jenkins account were using gmail.com
>>2. Google forms as limitation about how many email we can send per
>>day, but we could use another service like sendgrid to send an email with
>>the form link
>>
>>
>> https://support.google.com/docs/thread/11430242?hl=en
>>
>>
>> *2 - Custom Application*
>>
>> Another solution would be to write a simple application that listen on a
>> specific endpoint.
>> With the jenkins infra sendgrid account, we send an email to every
>> jenkins account, containing a link to validate if the receiver want to
>> participate or not.
>>
>> I wrote such application prototype here
>>
>>- https://github.com/olblak/polls -> Application code
>>- https://github.com/jenkins-infra/charts/pull/54 -> Helm chart to
>>deploy it
>>
>>
>> As a regular contributor, you receive  an email on  addr...@example.com
>> containing a link to
>> "https://polls.jenkins.io/participate?email=
>> > >=XXX="
>> once you click on it, your profile is validated in the database
>>
>> As an admin, you can access two endpoints
>> GET - /participants?poll=poll_id, to export a csv with every participants
>> for a specific poll id
>>
>> POST - /participants?poll=poll_id=, this endpoint
>> retrieve every jenkins account from ldap  for a specific ldap group,
>> generate a unique token for each of them, and then insert the data in a
>> postgresql database.
>>
>> While I think the custom application will perfectly fit our need, by
>> having a form directly from an email,  I am concerned to not have enough
>> time to dedicate to that.
>> Because it's one thing to write a prototype, it's another to polish it
>> and use it at scale.
>> If we go down this way, I'll need some volunteer(s) to test and/or write
>> some code.
>>
>> So I am looking for suggestions on following topics
>>
>> 1. Is there a better way to collect email's participants for the election?
>> 2. What would be the best approach between custom application versus
>> google form?
>> 3. Is there anybody out there interested to help on this?
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> ---
>> -> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
>> ---
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
>>
>> After deep consideration I would like to rescind my nomination as officer
>> of infra..
>> Thank you kindly for the opportunity to even have a shot.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:02 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>> The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the
>> start of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with
>> this many people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.
>>
>> So the start of voting will be delayed. I currently do not have an ETA,
>> but hopefully it shouldn't take too long.
>>
>> --
>> Kohsuke Kawaguchi
>>
>>
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Rick]

I can be a volunteer to help to maintain the poll application.

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 5:07 PM Olblak  wrote:

> Hi Everybody,
>
> I would like to bring additional information regarding the election
> specifically about infrastructure challenges.
> As you know since we can't invite 100.000 emails addresses, in the
> condorcet voting tool, we are looking for ways to reduce that number by
> identifying contributors interested to participate to the election while
> getting rid of bots, spammers,etc.
>
> Until now we identify two ways of doing that,
>
> *1 - Google Form*
>
> We send a google form to every jenkins account with a simple question,
> "Would you like to participate (Yes,No)", wait for one week and then use
> those email in the condorcet tool
>
> While this solution seems to be the simplest one, it also has limitation:
>
>1. We need a google account to participate, last time I checked, one
>third of Jenkins account were using gmail.com
>2. Google forms as limitation about how many email we can send per
>day, but we could use another service like sendgrid to send an email with
>the form link
>
>
> https://support.google.com/docs/thread/11430242?hl=en
>
>
> *2 - Custom Application*
>
> Another solution would be to write a simple application that listen on a
> specific endpoint.
> With the jenkins infra sendgrid account, we send an email to every jenkins
> account, containing a link to validate if the receiver want to participate
> or not.
>
> I wrote such application prototype here
>
>- https://github.com/olblak/polls -> Application code
>- https://github.com/jenkins-infra/charts/pull/54 -> Helm chart to
>deploy it
>
>
> As a regular contributor, you receive  an email on  addr...@example.com
> containing a link to
> "https://polls.jenkins.io/participate?email=
>  >=XXX="
> once you click on it, your profile is validated in the database
>
> As an admin, you can access two endpoints
> GET - /participants?poll=poll_id, to export a csv with every participants
> for a specific poll id
>
> POST - /participants?poll=poll_id=, this endpoint
> retrieve every jenkins account from ldap  for a specific ldap group,
> generate a unique token for each of them, and then insert the data in a
> postgresql database.
>
> While I think the custom application will perfectly fit our need, by
> having a form directly from an email,  I am concerned to not have enough
> time to dedicate to that.
> Because it's one thing to write a prototype, it's another to polish it and
> use it at scale.
> If we go down this way, I'll need some volunteer(s) to test and/or write
> some code.
>
> So I am looking for suggestions on following topics
>
> 1. Is there a better way to collect email's participants for the election?
> 2. What would be the best approach between custom application versus
> google form?
> 3. Is there anybody out there interested to help on this?
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> ---
> -> gpg --keyserver keys.gnupg.net --recv-key 52210D3D
> ---
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, at 12:20 PM, Marky Jackson wrote:
>
> After deep consideration I would like to rescind my nomination as officer
> of infra..
> Thank you kindly for the opportunity to even have a shot.
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:02 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
>
>
> 
> The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the
> start of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with
> this many people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.
>
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Rick]

Thanks for the reminder from Daniel.
As far as I know, not every contributor from China can access google.com
dut to the policy.

On Mon, Oct 28, 2019 at 7:31 PM Daniel Beck  wrote:

>
>
> > On 28. Oct 2019, at 10:06, Olblak  wrote:
> >
> > 1 - Google Form
> >
>
> Have you asked our Chinese contributors regarding the feasibility of this
> approach for them?
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

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> On 28. Oct 2019, at 10:06, Olblak  wrote:
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> 1 - Google Form
> 

Have you asked our Chinese contributors regarding the feasibility of this 
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

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Hi Everybody, 

I would like to bring additional information regarding the election 
specifically about infrastructure challenges.
As you know since we can't invite 100.000 emails addresses, in the condorcet 
voting tool, we are looking for ways to reduce that number by identifying 
contributors interested to participate to the election while getting rid of 
bots, spammers,etc.

Until now we identify two ways of doing that, 

*_1 - Google Form_*

We send a google form to every jenkins account with a simple question, "Would 
you like to participate (Yes,No)", wait for one week and then use those email 
in the condorcet tool

While this solution seems to be the simplest one, it also has limitation:
 1. We need a google account to participate, last time I checked, one third of 
Jenkins account were using gmail.com
 2. Google forms as limitation about how many email we can send per day, but we 
could use another service like sendgrid to send an email with the form link

https://support.google.com/docs/thread/11430242?hl=en


*_2 - Custom Application_*

Another solution would be to write a simple application that listen on a 
specific endpoint.
With the jenkins infra sendgrid account, we send an email to every jenkins 
account, containing a link to validate if the receiver want to participate or 
not. 

I wrote such application prototype here 
 * https://github.com/olblak/polls -> Application code
 * https://github.com/jenkins-infra/charts/pull/54 -> Helm chart to deploy it

As a regular contributor, you receive an email on addr...@example.com 
containing a link to 
"https://polls.jenkins.io/participate?email==XXX="
once you click on it, your profile is validated in the database

As an admin, you can access two endpoints
GET - /participants?poll=poll_id, to export a csv with every participants for a 
specific poll id

POST - /participants?poll=poll_id=, this endpoint 
retrieve every jenkins account from ldap for a specific ldap group, generate a 
unique token for each of them, and then insert the data in a postgresql 
database.

While I think the custom application will perfectly fit our need, by having a 
form directly from an email, I am concerned to not have enough time to dedicate 
to that.
Because it's one thing to write a prototype, it's another to polish it and use 
it at scale.
If we go down this way, I'll need some volunteer(s) to test and/or write some 
code.

So I am looking for suggestions on following topics

1. Is there a better way to collect email's participants for the election?
2. What would be the best approach between custom application versus google 
form?
3. Is there anybody out there interested to help on this?


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> After deep consideration I would like to rescind my nomination as officer of 
> infra..
> Thank you kindly for the opportunity to even have a shot.
> 
> 
> 
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:02 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the start 
>> of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with this 
>> many people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.
>> 
>> So the start of voting will be delayed. I currently do not have an ETA, but 
>> hopefully it shouldn't take too long.
>> 
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Marky Jackson]

After deep consideration I would like to rescind my nomination as officer of 
infra..
Thank you kindly for the opportunity to even have a shot.



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> The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the start 
> of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with this many 
> people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Kohsuke Kawaguchi]

Yes, we talked about the exact same thing.

I'm sure we'll do a retrospective after the whole thing is over, and this
will be one of the obvious improvements.

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 6:01 PM Richard Bywater  wrote:

> Given that there's been a few people who have requested to be removed from
> the list, would it make sense for the election nomination process to be
> updated whereby a nominee has to accept their nomination?
>
> The worst case scenario is that someone doesn't spot that they've been
> nominated and ends up elected even though they have no wish. Obviously not
> likely to end up in that position but appears it would be a possibility
> with the current process.
>
> Richard.
>
> On Sat, 19 Oct 2019, 1:14 PM Kohsuke Kawaguchi,  wrote:
>
>> Updated
>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15rJYkBjWLGZTL87xeJ4P2Y1LNn7C0EBb0wkDVUSfLmQ/edit#
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:36 AM Marky Jackson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sitting here with Oleg and just found out that I am included in the
>>> board member elections, I withdraw my nomination for the board position.
>>> I would like to continue forth on the infra officer nomination.
>>>
>>>
>>> {
>>> "regards" : {
>>>  "name" : “marky”,
>>>  "phone" : "+1 (408) 464 2965 <+1%20(408)%20464%202965>”,
>>>  "email" : “marky.r.jack...@gmail.com",
>>>  "team" : “jackson5“,
>>>  “role” : “software engineer"
>>>  }
>>>  }
>>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the
>>> start of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with
>>> this many people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.
>>>
>>> So the start of voting will be delayed. I currently do not have an ETA,
>>> but hopefully it shouldn't take too long.
>>>
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Kohsuke Kawaguchi]

Thank you. Fixed.

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 2:11 AM Daniel Beck  wrote:

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>
> > On 19. Oct 2019, at 02:13, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
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> > Updated
> >
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15rJYkBjWLGZTL87xeJ4P2Y1LNn7C0EBb0wkDVUSfLmQ/edit#
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> You did not update the changelog that you added when I had to decline.
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Daniel Beck]

> On 19. Oct 2019, at 02:13, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
> 
> Updated
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15rJYkBjWLGZTL87xeJ4P2Y1LNn7C0EBb0wkDVUSfLmQ/edit#

You did not update the changelog that you added when I had to decline.

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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Richard Bywater]

Given that there's been a few people who have requested to be removed from
the list, would it make sense for the election nomination process to be
updated whereby a nominee has to accept their nomination?

The worst case scenario is that someone doesn't spot that they've been
nominated and ends up elected even though they have no wish. Obviously not
likely to end up in that position but appears it would be a possibility
with the current process.

Richard.

On Sat, 19 Oct 2019, 1:14 PM Kohsuke Kawaguchi,  wrote:

> Updated
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/15rJYkBjWLGZTL87xeJ4P2Y1LNn7C0EBb0wkDVUSfLmQ/edit#
>
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:36 AM Marky Jackson 
> wrote:
>
>> Sitting here with Oleg and just found out that I am included in the board
>> member elections, I withdraw my nomination for the board position.
>> I would like to continue forth on the infra officer nomination.
>>
>>
>> {
>> "regards" : {
>>  "name" : “marky”,
>>  "phone" : "+1 (408) 464 2965 <+1%20(408)%20464%202965>”,
>>  "email" : “marky.r.jack...@gmail.com",
>>  "team" : “jackson5“,
>>  “role” : “software engineer"
>>  }
>>  }
>>
>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the
>> start of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with
>> this many people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.
>>
>> So the start of voting will be delayed. I currently do not have an ETA,
>> but hopefully it shouldn't take too long.
>>
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Kohsuke Kawaguchi]

Updated
https://docs.google.com/document/d/15rJYkBjWLGZTL87xeJ4P2Y1LNn7C0EBb0wkDVUSfLmQ/edit#

On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:36 AM Marky Jackson 
wrote:

> Sitting here with Oleg and just found out that I am included in the board
> member elections, I withdraw my nomination for the board position.
> I would like to continue forth on the infra officer nomination.
>
>
> {
> "regards" : {
>  "name" : “marky”,
>  "phone" : "+1 (408) 464 2965 <+1%20(408)%20464%202965>”,
>  "email" : “marky.r.jack...@gmail.com",
>  "team" : “jackson5“,
>  “role” : “software engineer"
>  }
>  }
>
> On Oct 15, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
>
> 
> The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the
> start of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with
> this many people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.
>
> So the start of voting will be delayed. I currently do not have an ETA,
> but hopefully it shouldn't take too long.
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Marky Jackson]

Sitting here with Oleg and just found out that I am included in the board 
member elections, I withdraw my nomination for the board position.
I would like to continue forth on the infra officer nomination.


{ 
"regards" : {
 "name" : “marky”,
 "phone" : "+1 (408) 464 2965”,
 "email" : “marky.r.jack...@gmail.com",
 "team" : “jackson5“,
 “role” : “software engineer"
 }
 }

> On Oct 15, 2019, at 3:02 PM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
> 
> 
> The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the start 
> of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with this many 
> people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.
> 
> So the start of voting will be delayed. I currently do not have an ETA, but 
> hopefully it shouldn't take too long.
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Tracy Miranda]

I can shed some light on the challenges here.

This year's election will run with the Condorcet Internet Voting System
, a system pretty much used widely with other
OSS projects/foundations.
As with any software, Condorcet has its limitations which it shares in the FAQ
 - basically it is not stress tested
for 6 figures voting and suggests it would be better to have sanitized
email lists for voting.

For Jenkins elections the eligible voter criteria is very inclusive
i.e. Eligible
voters are those who have an account on jenkins-ci.org prior to Sep 1
(See Board
Election Process
 and 2019
update

).
Being the massively successful project that it is there are ~100,000
accounts that meet this criteria. In practice some of these accounts are
dormant,bots, etc.
The reality of those who will engage in the election is likely far, far
smaller (3 figures or more would be awesome!).

So what is likely now that we reach out to the potential voter base and
request folks to opt-in to the election in order to receive a ballot. Users
who do not respond are by default opt-out. The expectation is that this
process cuts down the voter numbers but also leaves us with a set of highly
engaged voters. Additionally it would be good to identify this group
for CDF-related
elections  too.

There are a couple of ways we can do this in practice, each with pros &
cons, and likely we should allow a suitable amount of time for folks to
register.
The original election dates were set out with an expectation these issues
could be resolved beforehand but given folks involved are juggling multiple
responsibilities,things did not work out in a timely way.

I'm sure we'll figure out something practical yet effective and make this
election happen - just not as soon as originally hoped (story of my life
:).

Tracy


On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 9:08 AM Marky Jackson 
wrote:

> KK,
> Understood.
> I think it would be a good exercise post-election to have an open
> retrospective. Among the many reasons, I also feel it will give the
> community an opportunity to see how a project of this magnitude handled
> things like this and others in the open.
> Thanks kindly for all you and other do for Jenkins, I for one am truly
> thankful.
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> On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:02 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
>
> 
> The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the
> start of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with
> this many people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.
>
> So the start of voting will be delayed. I currently do not have an ETA,
> but hopefully it shouldn't take too long.
>
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Re: 2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Marky Jackson]

KK,
Understood.
I think it would be a good exercise post-election to have an open 
retrospective. Among the many reasons, I also feel it will give the community 
an opportunity to see how a project of this magnitude handled things like this 
and others in the open.
Thanks kindly for all you and other do for Jenkins, I for one am truly thankful.

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> On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:02 AM, Kohsuke Kawaguchi  wrote:
> 
> 
> The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the start 
> of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with this many 
> people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.
> 
> So the start of voting will be delayed. I currently do not have an ETA, but 
> hopefully it shouldn't take too long.
> 
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2019 Elections: voting is delayed

[Kohsuke Kawaguchi]

The proposed time table that we published earlier had Oct 14th as the start
of voting, but due to a logistical challenge of running a vote with this
many people, we need a bit more time to sort this out.

So the start of voting will be delayed. I currently do not have an ETA, but
hopefully it shouldn't take too long.

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