Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Oliver Gondža]

Hey, Thank you all for the inputs. I approve the suggested timeline, so 
the calendar is updated.


Please do not count on the exact RC date in late December.

On 12/11/2020 00.43, Victor Martinez wrote:

+1

Just a quick question regarding the winter break, even if the release 
dates are not known yet I wonder whether the calendar could be 
potentially changed to reflect a potentially release freeze for the last 
two weeks of the year and the new week of next year by default? This is 
something that have been happening for the last years as de facto standard,.


Cheers

On Wednesday, 11 November 2020 at 20:41:37 UTC Oleg Nenashev wrote:

I am pretty sure that our Release Automation infra would not mind to
cut a release on Dec 30, but there is still a lot of manual work
involved in cutting an LTS release.
I am +1 for postponing, especially if there are no major issues to
be addressed.

Postponing the release would also give more time for ramp-up to a
new release officer whose term starts on Dec 03.

Best regards,
Oleg


On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 7:32:53 PM UTC+1
vsilv...@gmail.com wrote:

+1


On Nov 11, 2020, at 1:54 AM, fque...@cloudbees.com
  wrote:

+1

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:42:01 AM UTC+1
bmu...@cloudbees.com  wrote:

+1

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:15:24 AM UTC+1 Raul
Arabaolaza wrote:

+1

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:08:45 AM UTC+1
Ildefonso Montero wrote:

+1

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:01:20 AM
UTC+1 Antonio Muñiz wrote:

+1

On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 09:48, Daniel Beck
 wrote:

Hi everyone,

We have an LTS release scheduled for
December 30, which probably isn't useful:
The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to
Dec 30. Plus who wants to release things
the day before NYE?

I propose we add a two-week break between
2.263.1 release and 2.263.2 RC, postponing
all future RCs and releases by two weeks
accordingly.

Before:
Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
etc.

After:
Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
etc.

This should give us a useful RC testing
period in early January. Since this is the
.2 release, a slightly longer backporting
period in December could help getting more
fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as well.

While the RC would be scheduled for Dec
30, it could always be prepared earlier if
nobody would be around in late December to
do it. If that doesn't work out and it is
published in early Jan, that wouldn't be
too much of a delay either.

WDYT?

Daniel

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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Victor Martinez]

+1

Just a quick question regarding the winter break, even if the release dates 
are not known yet I wonder whether the calendar could be potentially 
changed to reflect a potentially release freeze for the last two weeks of 
the year and the new week of next year by default? This is something that 
have been happening for the last years as de facto standard,.

Cheers 

On Wednesday, 11 November 2020 at 20:41:37 UTC Oleg Nenashev wrote:

> I am pretty sure that our Release Automation infra would not mind to cut a 
> release on Dec 30, but there is still a lot of manual work involved in 
> cutting an LTS release.
> I am +1 for postponing, especially if there are no major issues to be 
> addressed.
>
> Postponing the release would also give more time for ramp-up to a new 
> release officer whose term starts on Dec 03.
>
> Best regards,
> Oleg
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 7:32:53 PM UTC+1 vsilv...@gmail.com 
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 1:54 AM, fque...@cloudbees.com  
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:42:01 AM UTC+1 bmu...@cloudbees.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:15:24 AM UTC+1 Raul Arabaolaza 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 +1

 On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:08:45 AM UTC+1 Ildefonso Montero 
 wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:01:20 AM UTC+1 Antonio Muñiz 
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 09:48, Daniel Beck  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably 
>>> isn't useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who 
>>> wants to release things the day before NYE?
>>>
>>> I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and 
>>> 2.263.2 RC, postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks 
>>> accordingly.
>>>
>>> Before:
>>> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>>> Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
>>> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> After:
>>> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>>> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
>>> Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January. 
>>> Since this is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in 
>>> December could help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 
>>> as 
>>> well.
>>>
>>> While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be 
>>> prepared earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. 
>>> If 
>>> that doesn't work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't 
>>> be 
>>> too much of a delay either.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> Daniel
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Tim Jacomb]

Well RC builds aren’t automated yet...

On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 20:41, Oleg Nenashev  wrote:

> I am pretty sure that our Release Automation infra would not mind to cut a
> release on Dec 30, but there is still a lot of manual work involved in
> cutting an LTS release.
> I am +1 for postponing, especially if there are no major issues to be
> addressed.
>
> Postponing the release would also give more time for ramp-up to a new
> release officer whose term starts on Dec 03.
>
> Best regards,
> Oleg
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 7:32:53 PM UTC+1 vsilv...@gmail.com
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2020, at 1:54 AM, fque...@cloudbees.com 
>> wrote:
>>
>> +1
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:42:01 AM UTC+1 bmu...@cloudbees.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:15:24 AM UTC+1 Raul Arabaolaza
>>> wrote:
>>>
 +1

 On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:08:45 AM UTC+1 Ildefonso Montero
 wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:01:20 AM UTC+1 Antonio Muñiz
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 09:48, Daniel Beck  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably
>>> isn't useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who
>>> wants to release things the day before NYE?
>>>
>>> I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and
>>> 2.263.2 RC, postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks 
>>> accordingly.
>>>
>>> Before:
>>> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>>> Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
>>> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> After:
>>> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>>> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
>>> Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January.
>>> Since this is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in
>>> December could help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as
>>> well.
>>>
>>> While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be
>>> prepared earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. If
>>> that doesn't work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't be
>>> too much of a delay either.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Oleg Nenashev]

I am pretty sure that our Release Automation infra would not mind to cut a 
release on Dec 30, but there is still a lot of manual work involved in 
cutting an LTS release.
I am +1 for postponing, especially if there are no major issues to be 
addressed.

Postponing the release would also give more time for ramp-up to a new 
release officer whose term starts on Dec 03.

Best regards,
Oleg


On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 7:32:53 PM UTC+1 vsilv...@gmail.com 
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Nov 11, 2020, at 1:54 AM, fque...@cloudbees.com  
> wrote:
>
> +1
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:42:01 AM UTC+1 bmu...@cloudbees.com 
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:15:24 AM UTC+1 Raul Arabaolaza 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:08:45 AM UTC+1 Ildefonso Montero 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 +1

 On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:01:20 AM UTC+1 Antonio Muñiz 
 wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 09:48, Daniel Beck  wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably 
>> isn't useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who 
>> wants to release things the day before NYE?
>>
>> I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and 2.263.2 
>> RC, postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks accordingly.
>>
>> Before:
>> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>> Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
>> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
>> etc.
>>
>> After:
>> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
>> Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
>> etc.
>>
>> This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January. 
>> Since this is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in 
>> December could help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as 
>> well.
>>
>> While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be 
>> prepared earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. If 
>> that doesn't work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't be 
>> too much of a delay either.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Daniel
>>
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Vlad Silverman]

+1

> On Nov 11, 2020, at 1:54 AM, fque...@cloudbees.com  
> wrote:
> 
> +1
> 
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:42:01 AM UTC+1 bmu...@cloudbees.com 
> wrote:
> +1
> 
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:15:24 AM UTC+1 Raul Arabaolaza wrote:
> +1
> 
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:08:45 AM UTC+1 Ildefonso Montero wrote:
> +1
> 
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:01:20 AM UTC+1 Antonio Muñiz wrote:
> +1
> 
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 09:48, Daniel Beck > wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably isn't 
> useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who wants to 
> release things the day before NYE?
> 
> I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and 2.263.2 RC, 
> postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks accordingly.
> 
> Before:
> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
> Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
> etc.
> 
> After:
> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
> Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
> etc.
> 
> This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January. Since this 
> is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in December could 
> help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as well.
> 
> While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be prepared 
> earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. If that doesn't 
> work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't be too much of a 
> delay either.
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> Daniel
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Daniel Beck]

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 3:01 PM Tim Jacomb  wrote:

> Is someone going to want to do an RC on 'Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC' though?
>

I address that in my proposal, that can always be created earlier if
necessary due to scheduling/vacation issues. If you implement it as you
propose, there will still be an RC on the 30th, just two weeks old. No
matter when the actual RC is created, it's probably a good idea to do
backporting and backporting review fairly early in any case.

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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Tim Jacomb]

Is someone going to want to do an RC on 'Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC' though?

could we leave the RC date as the 16th and then release it on the 13th?

(creating more RCs as needed if required)

On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 13:25, Mark Waite  wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 6:15 AM Baptiste Mathus  wrote:
>
>> +1, makes sense especially to preserve the lives of the people involved.
>>
>> Le mer. 11 nov. 2020 à 12:05, Marky Jackson 
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> > On Nov 11, 2020, at 12:48 AM, Daniel Beck  wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hi everyone,
>>> >
>>> > We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably isn't
>>> useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who wants to
>>> release things the day before NYE?
>>> >
>>> > I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and 2.263.2
>>> RC, postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks accordingly.
>>> >
>>> > Before:
>>> > Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>>> > Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
>>> > Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
>>> > etc.
>>> >
>>> > After:
>>> > Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>>> > Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
>>> > Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
>>> > etc.
>>> >
>>> > This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January. Since
>>> this is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in December
>>> could help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as well.
>>> >
>>> > While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be
>>> prepared earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. If
>>> that doesn't work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't be
>>> too much of a delay either.
>>> >
>>> > WDYT?
>>> >
>>> > Daniel
>>> >
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Mark Waite]

+1

On Wed, Nov 11, 2020 at 6:15 AM Baptiste Mathus  wrote:

> +1, makes sense especially to preserve the lives of the people involved.
>
> Le mer. 11 nov. 2020 à 12:05, Marky Jackson  a
> écrit :
>
>> +1
>>
>> > On Nov 11, 2020, at 12:48 AM, Daniel Beck  wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi everyone,
>> >
>> > We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably isn't
>> useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who wants to
>> release things the day before NYE?
>> >
>> > I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and 2.263.2
>> RC, postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks accordingly.
>> >
>> > Before:
>> > Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>> > Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
>> > Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > After:
>> > Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>> > Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
>> > Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
>> > etc.
>> >
>> > This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January. Since
>> this is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in December
>> could help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as well.
>> >
>> > While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be prepared
>> earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. If that
>> doesn't work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't be too
>> much of a delay either.
>> >
>> > WDYT?
>> >
>> > Daniel
>> >
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Baptiste Mathus]

+1, makes sense especially to preserve the lives of the people involved.

Le mer. 11 nov. 2020 à 12:05, Marky Jackson  a
écrit :

> +1
>
> > On Nov 11, 2020, at 12:48 AM, Daniel Beck  wrote:
> >
> > Hi everyone,
> >
> > We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably isn't
> useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who wants to
> release things the day before NYE?
> >
> > I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and 2.263.2
> RC, postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks accordingly.
> >
> > Before:
> > Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
> > Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
> > Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
> > etc.
> >
> > After:
> > Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
> > Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
> > Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
> > etc.
> >
> > This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January. Since
> this is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in December
> could help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as well.
> >
> > While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be prepared
> earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. If that
> doesn't work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't be too
> much of a delay either.
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Daniel
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Marky Jackson]

+1

> On Nov 11, 2020, at 12:48 AM, Daniel Beck  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably isn't 
> useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who wants to 
> release things the day before NYE?
> 
> I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and 2.263.2 RC, 
> postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks accordingly.
> 
> Before:
> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
> Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
> etc.
> 
> After:
> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
> Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
> etc.
> 
> This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January. Since this 
> is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in December could 
> help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as well.
> 
> While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be prepared 
> earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. If that doesn't 
> work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't be too much of a 
> delay either.
> 
> WDYT?
> 
> Daniel
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[fque...@cloudbees.com]

+1

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:42:01 AM UTC+1 bmu...@cloudbees.com 
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:15:24 AM UTC+1 Raul Arabaolaza wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:08:45 AM UTC+1 Ildefonso Montero 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:01:20 AM UTC+1 Antonio Muñiz wrote:
>>>
 +1

 On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 09:48, Daniel Beck  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably isn't 
> useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who wants to 
> release things the day before NYE?
>
> I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and 2.263.2 
> RC, postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks accordingly.
>
> Before:
> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
> Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
> etc.
>
> After:
> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
> Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
> etc.
>
> This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January. Since 
> this is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in December 
> could help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as well.
>
> While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be 
> prepared earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. If 
> that doesn't work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't be 
> too much of a delay either.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Daniel
>
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[bmu...@cloudbees.com]

+1

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:15:24 AM UTC+1 Raul Arabaolaza wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:08:45 AM UTC+1 Ildefonso Montero 
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:01:20 AM UTC+1 Antonio Muñiz wrote:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 09:48, Daniel Beck  wrote:
>>>
 Hi everyone,

 We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably isn't 
 useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who wants to 
 release things the day before NYE?

 I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and 2.263.2 
 RC, postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks accordingly.

 Before:
 Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
 Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
 Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
 etc.

 After:
 Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
 Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
 Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
 etc.

 This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January. Since 
 this is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in December 
 could help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as well.

 While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be prepared 
 earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. If that 
 doesn't work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't be too 
 much of a delay either.

 WDYT?

 Daniel

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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Raul Arabaolaza]

+1

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:08:45 AM UTC+1 Ildefonso Montero 
wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:01:20 AM UTC+1 Antonio Muñiz wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 09:48, Daniel Beck  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>> We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably isn't 
>>> useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who wants to 
>>> release things the day before NYE?
>>>
>>> I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and 2.263.2 
>>> RC, postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks accordingly.
>>>
>>> Before:
>>> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>>> Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
>>> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> After:
>>> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>>> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
>>> Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
>>> etc.
>>>
>>> This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January. Since 
>>> this is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in December 
>>> could help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as well.
>>>
>>> While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be prepared 
>>> earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. If that 
>>> doesn't work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't be too 
>>> much of a delay either.
>>>
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> Daniel
>>>
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Ildefonso Montero]

+1

On Wednesday, November 11, 2020 at 10:01:20 AM UTC+1 Antonio Muñiz wrote:

> +1
>
> On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 09:48, Daniel Beck  wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably isn't 
>> useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who wants to 
>> release things the day before NYE?
>>
>> I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and 2.263.2 RC, 
>> postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks accordingly.
>>
>> Before:
>> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>> Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
>> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
>> etc.
>>
>> After:
>> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
>> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
>> Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
>> etc.
>>
>> This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January. Since 
>> this is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in December 
>> could help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as well.
>>
>> While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be prepared 
>> earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. If that 
>> doesn't work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't be too 
>> much of a delay either.
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Daniel
>>
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Antonio Muñiz]

+1

On Wed, 11 Nov 2020 at 09:48, Daniel Beck  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> We have an LTS release scheduled for December 30, which probably isn't
> useful: The RC testing period is from Dec 16 to Dec 30. Plus who wants to
> release things the day before NYE?
>
> I propose we add a two-week break between 2.263.1 release and 2.263.2 RC,
> postponing all future RCs and releases by two weeks accordingly.
>
> Before:
> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
> Dec 16 - 2.263.2 RC
> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 Release
> etc.
>
> After:
> Dec 2 - 2.263.1 Release
> Dec 30 - 2.263.2 RC
> Jan 13 - 2.263.2 Release
> etc.
>
> This should give us a useful RC testing period in early January. Since
> this is the .2 release, a slightly longer backporting period in December
> could help getting more fixes in for issues discovered in .1 as well.
>
> While the RC would be scheduled for Dec 30, it could always be prepared
> earlier if nobody would be around in late December to do it. If that
> doesn't work out and it is published in early Jan, that wouldn't be too
> much of a delay either.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Daniel
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Oliver Gondža]

This is now reflected in the calendar. Thanks!

On 02/12/2019 11.55, Daniel Beck wrote:

Hi everyone,

2.204.1 is scheduled for Dec 18, .2 would be released on Jan 15, with the RC 
scheduled for on Jan 1.

I don't expect a lot of backport candidates, or feedback on .1 in general, to 
come in between Dec 18 and Jan 1.

Hence I propose we take a two week break as in past years, postponing the RC 
and release of .2 (and all subsequent releases) by two weeks, so that the new 
dates are:

- Dec 18: .1 release (unchanged)
- Jan 15: .2 RC
- Jan 29: .2 release
- Feb 12: .3 RC
etc.

Thoughts?

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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Marky Jackson]

No objection from me 

> On Dec 3, 2019, at 10:08 PM, Oleg Nenashev  wrote:
> 
> 
> No objections from me.
> 
>> On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 9:23:42 AM UTC, ogondza wrote:
>> Alright, provided there are no objection by the meeting time tomorrow, I 
>> will go and adjust the schedule. 
>> 
>> On 02/12/2019 22.28, Mark Waite wrote: 
>> > I like the postponement idea.  +1 from me 
>> > 
>> > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 10:55 AM Daniel Beck > > > wrote: 
>> > 
>> > Hi everyone, 
>> > 
>> > 2.204.1 is scheduled for Dec 18, .2 would be released on Jan 15, 
>> > with the RC scheduled for on Jan 1. 
>> > 
>> > I don't expect a lot of backport candidates, or feedback on .1 in 
>> > general, to come in between Dec 18 and Jan 1. 
>> > 
>> > Hence I propose we take a two week break as in past years, 
>> > postponing the RC and release of .2 (and all subsequent releases) by 
>> > two weeks, so that the new dates are: 
>> > 
>> > - Dec 18: .1 release (unchanged) 
>> > - Jan 15: .2 RC 
>> > - Jan 29: .2 release 
>> > - Feb 12: .3 RC 
>> > etc. 
>> > 
>> > Thoughts? 
>> > 
>> > Daniel 
>> > 
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>> > 
>> > 
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Oleg Nenashev]

No objections from me.

On Tuesday, December 3, 2019 at 9:23:42 AM UTC, ogondza wrote:
>
> Alright, provided there are no objection by the meeting time tomorrow, I 
> will go and adjust the schedule. 
>
> On 02/12/2019 22.28, Mark Waite wrote: 
> > I like the postponement idea.  +1 from me 
> > 
> > On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 10:55 AM Daniel Beck   
> > > wrote: 
> > 
> > Hi everyone, 
> > 
> > 2.204.1 is scheduled for Dec 18, .2 would be released on Jan 15, 
> > with the RC scheduled for on Jan 1. 
> > 
> > I don't expect a lot of backport candidates, or feedback on .1 in 
> > general, to come in between Dec 18 and Jan 1. 
> > 
> > Hence I propose we take a two week break as in past years, 
> > postponing the RC and release of .2 (and all subsequent releases) by 
> > two weeks, so that the new dates are: 
> > 
> > - Dec 18: .1 release (unchanged) 
> > - Jan 15: .2 RC 
> > - Jan 29: .2 release 
> > - Feb 12: .3 RC 
> > etc. 
> > 
> > Thoughts? 
> > 
> > Daniel 
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> > 
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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Oliver Gondža]

Alright, provided there are no objection by the meeting time tomorrow, I 
will go and adjust the schedule.


On 02/12/2019 22.28, Mark Waite wrote:

I like the postponement idea.  +1 from me

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 10:55 AM Daniel Beck > wrote:


Hi everyone,

2.204.1 is scheduled for Dec 18, .2 would be released on Jan 15,
with the RC scheduled for on Jan 1.

I don't expect a lot of backport candidates, or feedback on .1 in
general, to come in between Dec 18 and Jan 1.

Hence I propose we take a two week break as in past years,
postponing the RC and release of .2 (and all subsequent releases) by
two weeks, so that the new dates are:

- Dec 18: .1 release (unchanged)
- Jan 15: .2 RC
- Jan 29: .2 release
- Feb 12: .3 RC
etc.

Thoughts?

Daniel

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Re: LTS schedule winter break

[Mark Waite]

I like the postponement idea.  +1 from me

On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 10:55 AM Daniel Beck  wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> 2.204.1 is scheduled for Dec 18, .2 would be released on Jan 15, with the
> RC scheduled for on Jan 1.
>
> I don't expect a lot of backport candidates, or feedback on .1 in general,
> to come in between Dec 18 and Jan 1.
>
> Hence I propose we take a two week break as in past years, postponing the
> RC and release of .2 (and all subsequent releases) by two weeks, so that
> the new dates are:
>
> - Dec 18: .1 release (unchanged)
> - Jan 15: .2 RC
> - Jan 29: .2 release
> - Feb 12: .3 RC
> etc.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Daniel
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