Re: Documentation! & PSML - No frames

[Jouni Rajala]

One more thing. Clear is also a decorator and not same as not decorator 
at all.
You can find it in 
$tomcat_home/webapps/jetspeed/WEB-INF/decorations/generic/hml/clear
(after deployment of of jetspeed naturally)

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Re: Documentation! & PSML - No frames

[Jouni Rajala]

We are targetting JetSpeed 2.0 for a prototype; I've been
frustrated as I have not found much "How To" documentation
to date.  I've seen the design docs in the source dist and
the comments in the code, which are good, but not the quickest
way of learning this beast.  Is there any "How To" type doc other
than the incomplete sections on the JetSpeed 2.0 home page?
I need to address questions like this:
1.  If I wanted my portlets to be transparent to the client,
e.g. no frames, no edit, help, minimize and maximize buttons,
how would I do that? Does PSML (or maybe the lack of it)
provide that functionality?
if you want same for all your portlets on that page you can put it in 
default decorator
as clear

example:
 
if you want one speficic portlet on page to have no decorator add additional
attribute decorator into fragment definition
example:
   
 
 
  


Yes this is not in documentation and it should be. I had to figure it 
out myself. I am also
not absolutely positive that this is going to be final implementation 
but it works with
version from HEAD

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RE: Documentation! & PSML - No frames

[Shah Amit]

1.  If I wanted my portlets to be transparent to the client,
e.g. no frames, no edit, help, minimize and maximize buttons,
how would I do that? Does PSML (or maybe the lack of it)
provide that functionality?
Answer. -  We can easily get rid of the edit and help button by controlling 
the permissions. But if you want to remove the minimize, maximize and the 
entire title bar, the only way I know of is to write your own portlet 
decorator. We can write it in velocity or JSP. Jetspeed distribution has 
samples of velocity portlet decorators.

2.  what is the mechanism by which the portal container does
initial rendering of its targetted portlets when your portal page
first starts up?  Does the container call the "render" methods
of the contained portlets after initialization?  I don't think the
JSR 168 spec addresses this.  I could hunt around for a while and
figure this out, but if someone could point me to the right place it would 
be a big time saver.

Answer. - As far as I know, the RenderRequest is called everytime a portlet 
is rendered. Meaning, if there are 5 portlets in a psml and the page is 
refreshed 3 times, each time, the render method of each of the 5 portlets 
will be called by the portlet container.

Hope that helps,
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Documentation! & PSML - No frames

[Mike R.]

We are targetting JetSpeed 2.0 for a prototype; I've been
frustrated as I have not found much "How To" documentation
to date.  I've seen the design docs in the source dist and
the comments in the code, which are good, but not the quickest
way of learning this beast.  Is there any "How To" type doc other
than the incomplete sections on the JetSpeed 2.0 home page?
I need to address questions like this:
1.  If I wanted my portlets to be transparent to the client,
e.g. no frames, no edit, help, minimize and maximize buttons,
how would I do that? Does PSML (or maybe the lack of it)
provide that functionality?
2.  what is the mechanism by which the portal container does
initial rendering of its targetted portlets when your portal page
first starts up?  Does the container call the "render" methods
of the contained portlets after initialization?  I don't think the
JSR 168 spec addresses this.  I could hunt around for a while and
figure this out, but if someone could point me to the right place it 
would be a big time saver.

Mike R.

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Re: Documentation

[Scott T. Weaver]

Hi Adrian,
The wiki might be a good place to start, 
http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2.

Adrian Nadeau wrote:
Hello,
We have just currently installed Jetspeed 2 on Tomcat 5.0.30.  We are
wondering if there are any documentation or resources out there to help us
get started on development of JSR 168 Compliant Portlets and deploying them
to Jetspeed 2?  We have added a few test Portlets fine but we would like to
better understand how Tomcat 5 actually deploys the war files and how we can
update Portlets within our testing environment without re-exporting them as
a new .war file every time we make a change.  Any information would be
great, thank you in advance.
Regards,
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Re: Documentation

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Adrian Nadeau wrote:
Hello,
We have just currently installed Jetspeed 2 on Tomcat 5.0.30.  We are
wondering if there are any documentation or resources out there to help us
get started on development of JSR 168 Compliant Portlets and deploying them
to Jetspeed 2?  We have added a few test Portlets fine but we would like to
better understand how Tomcat 5 actually deploys the war files and how we can
update Portlets within our testing environment without re-exporting them as
a new .war file every time we make a change.  Any information would be
great, thank you in advance.
Regards,
Adrian Nadeau
VP, Development
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Well I've been on a little vacation from the jetspeed user mailing list. 
I've come back to see what I find to be an overwhelming theme. People 
are saying (and I paraphrase) "Jetspeed-2 looks cool man, but where the 
hell are the docs dude!"

The answer is, not much there. But we're working on it.
I see Ate wrote a nice document on User Attributes:
http://portals.apache.org/jetspeed-2/user-attributes.html
We still have a long way to go with docs
To answer your questions:
I think you can look at the existing portlet applications under 
/applications for examples of how to write JSR 168 compliant portlets.
Also see the Gems project over at java.net. We hope to get Gems moved 
into Apache Portals in the near future.

For deployment, currently you have to redeploy the war file to pick up 
new changes to any Java code unless your application server supports 
'hot deploying'. The Tomcat 5 deployment is a little messy right now and 
we are experiencing some race conditions where both Jetspeed and Tomcat 
try to deploy the same portlet application. Randy is working on getting 
that fixed. Also, there is an open issue to pick up changes to the 
portlet.xml and redeploy:

http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JS2-190

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Documentation

[Adrian Nadeau]

Hello,

We have just currently installed Jetspeed 2 on Tomcat 5.0.30.  We are
wondering if there are any documentation or resources out there to help us
get started on development of JSR 168 Compliant Portlets and deploying them
to Jetspeed 2?  We have added a few test Portlets fine but we would like to
better understand how Tomcat 5 actually deploys the war files and how we can
update Portlets within our testing environment without re-exporting them as
a new .war file every time we make a change.  Any information would be
great, thank you in advance.

Regards,

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Jetspeed-2 site updated again: New documentation for defining and using User Attributes

[Ate Douma]

I've added a new document describing how User Attributes are to be defined,
how custom attribute mapping is possible in Jetspeed-2, and how to use them.
Checkout: http://portals.apache.org/jetspeed-2/user-attributes.html
NB: I also removed all the old sites on the server.
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Re: Wiki documentation issues

[Scott T. Weaver]

Anyone should be able to change the Wiki.  If you see an inconsistency 
or something that is blatantly out of date, please feel free to fix it.

Ron Wheeler wrote:
It appears that
http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2/DevelopingJetspeed2
needs to be updated to clarify the discussion that starts
"Tomcat 4 and 5 are both supported. Tomcat 5 requires a JAASRealm 
patch that will be automatically applied by Maven during the build. 
Refer to [WWW]http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JS2-55 for more 
information."
From reading up on this issue it appears that this is no longer an 
issue if you use the current version of Tomcat. There is no mention of 
the Tomcat 5.5 stream but I am hoping that this problem is resolved 
there as well.
I hope that the wiki authors will fix this up.

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[Ron Wheeler]

It appears that
http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2/DevelopingJetspeed2
needs to be updated to clarify the discussion that starts
"Tomcat 4 and 5 are both supported. Tomcat 5 requires a JAASRealm patch 
that will be automatically applied by Maven during the build. Refer to 
[WWW]http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/JS2-55 for more information."
From reading up on this issue it appears that this is no longer an 
issue if you use the current version of Tomcat. There is no mention of 
the Tomcat 5.5 stream but I am hoping that this problem is resolved 
there as well.
I hope that the wiki authors will fix this up.

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Re: J2 documentation material

[Jeff Linwood]

Hi,

We covered the Java portlet API, but nothing specifically about
Jetspeed 2. We tested and ran all of our portlets on Apache Pluto (the
reference implementation). They should run on any portlet-API
compatible portal.

Let me know if you have any specific questions.

Thanks,
Jeff

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> Any coverage of Jetspeed in this just about to be released book?
> 
> Building Portals with the Java Portlet API:
> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590592840/qid=1091480467/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-2829141-2465602?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
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> 
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> > > Any ideas when the Manning book might be published?
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> > Early next year some time, but another Manning book with minimal
> > Jetspeed coverage will come out sooner
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Not to my knowldge, at least not on J2 as it would be easily out dated ;)
Simonin, Bradley K. (Brad) wrote:
Any coverage of Jetspeed in this just about to be released book?
Building Portals with the Java Portlet API:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590592840/qid=1091480467/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-2829141-2465602?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
On Mon, 2004-08-02 at 17:31, David Sean Taylor wrote:
 

On Jul 30, 2004, at 6:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   

Any ideas when the Manning book might be published?
 

Early next year some time, but another Manning book with minimal 
Jetspeed coverage will come out sooner

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[Simonin, Bradley K. (Brad)]

Any coverage of Jetspeed in this just about to be released book?

Building Portals with the Java Portlet API:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1590592840/qid=1091480467/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl14/002-2829141-2465602?v=glance&s=books&n=507846


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> On Jul 30, 2004, at 6:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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> > Any ideas when the Manning book might be published?
> 
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> Jetspeed coverage will come out sooner
> 
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Any ideas when the Manning book might be published?
Early next year some time, but another Manning book with minimal 
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Any ideas when the Manning book might be published?

Eric Olson




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I have attached my presentation to the Jetspeed 2 wiki, 
http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2.  It's a .ppt however I gave 
the presentation using OO1.1 Impress on Linux and it looked just fine.

Joachim Müller wrote:

>> I did a presnetation at my local java users group on JSR-168 in 
>> general, if you would like, I can send that to you. 
>
>
> yes that would be great. since the presentation is not commercial I 
> can give it to the folks, only if it is good enough, of course ;-).
>
>> Also, we are now using Spring Framework to power J2, so you could 
>> also talk about that. David Taylor also has some preliminary stuff 
>> put together for the J2 book we are working on for Manning, but I 
>> don't now if we are allowed to give it out :(  Also check out the 
>> Jetspeed 2 wiki, http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2, for the 
>> most up to date info.
>
>
> The J2 book script would be perfect, but I understand it maybe too 
> much to ask.
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
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Re: J2 documentation material

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Joachim Müller wrote:
Great, many thanks. We Jetspeed-Evangelists need stuff like this to 
convince others.

The JSR168 section is empty, does this have a reason?
All of the slides befoe that discuss JSR-168.
Joachim
Scott T. Weaver schrieb:
I have attached my presentation to the Jetspeed 2 wiki, 
http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2.  It's a .ppt however I gave 
the presentation using OO1.1 Impress on Linux and it looked just fine.

Joachim Müller wrote:
I did a presnetation at my local java users group on JSR-168 in 
general, if you would like, I can send that to you.  


yes that would be great. since the presentation is not commercial I 
can give it to the folks, only if it is good enough, of course ;-).

Also, we are now using Spring Framework to power J2, so you could 
also talk about that. David Taylor also has some preliminary stuff 
put together for the J2 book we are working on for Manning, but I 
don't now if we are allowed to give it out :(  Also check out the 
Jetspeed 2 wiki, http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2, for the 
most up to date info.


The J2 book script would be perfect, but I understand it maybe too 
much to ask.

Thanks in advance,
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[Joachim Müller]

Great, many thanks. We Jetspeed-Evangelists need stuff like this to 
convince others.

The JSR168 section is empty, does this have a reason?
Joachim
Scott T. Weaver schrieb:
I have attached my presentation to the Jetspeed 2 wiki, 
http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2.  It's a .ppt however I gave 
the presentation using OO1.1 Impress on Linux and it looked just fine.

Joachim Müller wrote:
I did a presnetation at my local java users group on JSR-168 in 
general, if you would like, I can send that to you.  

yes that would be great. since the presentation is not commercial I 
can give it to the folks, only if it is good enough, of course ;-).

Also, we are now using Spring Framework to power J2, so you could 
also talk about that. David Taylor also has some preliminary stuff 
put together for the J2 book we are working on for Manning, but I 
don't now if we are allowed to give it out :(  Also check out the 
Jetspeed 2 wiki, http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2, for the 
most up to date info.

The J2 book script would be perfect, but I understand it maybe too 
much to ask.

Thanks in advance,
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[Scott T. Weaver]

I have attached my presentation to the Jetspeed 2 wiki, 
http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2.  It's a .ppt however I gave 
the presentation using OO1.1 Impress on Linux and it looked just fine.

Joachim Müller wrote:
I did a presnetation at my local java users group on JSR-168 in 
general, if you would like, I can send that to you.  

yes that would be great. since the presentation is not commercial I 
can give it to the folks, only if it is good enough, of course ;-).

Also, we are now using Spring Framework to power J2, so you could 
also talk about that. David Taylor also has some preliminary stuff 
put together for the J2 book we are working on for Manning, but I 
don't now if we are allowed to give it out :(  Also check out the 
Jetspeed 2 wiki, http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2, for the 
most up to date info.

The J2 book script would be perfect, but I understand it maybe too 
much to ask.

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[Joachim Müller]

I did a presnetation at my 
local java users group on JSR-168 in general, if you would like, I can 
send that to you.  
yes that would be great. since the presentation is not commercial I can 
give it to the folks, only if it is good enough, of course ;-).

Also, we are now using Spring Framework to power J2, 
so you could also talk about that. David Taylor also has some 
preliminary stuff put together for the J2 book we are working on for 
Manning, but I don't now if we are allowed to give it out :(  Also check 
out the Jetspeed 2 wiki, http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2, for 
the most up to date info.
The J2 book script would be perfect, but I understand it maybe too much 
to ask.

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[Scott T. Weaver]

Hi Joachim,
For documentation/proposals look in the /design-docs folder of Jetspeed 
2 project, some which might be out of date.  I did a presnetation at my 
local java users group on JSR-168 in general, if you would like, I can 
send that to you.  Also, we are now using Spring Framework to power J2, 
so you could also talk about that.  David Taylor also has some 
preliminary stuff put together for the J2 book we are working on for 
Manning, but I don't now if we are allowed to give it out :(  Also check 
out the Jetspeed 2 wiki, http://wiki.apache.org/portals/Jetspeed2, for 
the most up to date info.

Joachim Müller wrote:
I am going to do a presentation on Jetspeed2. Is there any material, 
graphics in the net (or on someones HD) about the architecture, basic 
principles, etc.? Did someone do a presentation about J2 already and 
can  share it with me?

Thanks,
Joachim

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[Joachim Müller]

I am going to do a presentation on Jetspeed2. Is there any material, 
graphics in the net (or on someones HD) about the architecture, basic 
principles, etc.? Did someone do a presentation about J2 already and can 
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Re: Documentation

[Ken Gunderson]

On Friday 30 April 2004 09:43 am, Mark Orciuch wrote:
> I'm not (yet) a big Wiki fan but there's already one setup for
> Jetspeed:
>
> http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JetspeedProjectPages
>
> Need to add this link on the J1 homepage.

And someone can do som ewiki maintainance and update the jakarta link to 
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RE: Documentation

[Mark Orciuch]

I'm not (yet) a big Wiki fan but there's already one setup for Jetspeed:

http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?JetspeedProjectPages

Need to add this link on the J1 homepage.

Best regards,

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> -Original Message-
> From: Ron Wheeler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:21 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: RE: Documentation
>
>
> Mark.
> What do you think of a Wiki? Do you think that it would reduce
> the amount of
> time the development team have to spend helping the rest of us
> get it right?
> What is involved in getting an Apache Wiki started?
>
> Ron
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Orciuch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:09 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: RE: Documentation
>
>
> I don't want to make it sound like J1 is dead. As a matter a fact, I think
> the J1 is here to stay for a while as the "lite" version of Jetspeed.
> However, it is true that most of the Jetspeed resources have been diverted
> to work on J2. There's probably 3 of us actively maintaining J1 (note the
> word "maintaining") and David is also working full-time on J2. This is the
> reason why there will be no big documentation activity in the near future.
> Not unless I clone myself or find some corporate sponsorship to do more J1
> work ;-)
>
> I will try to update the documentation in whatever spare time I get.
>
> BTW: I'm not sure if you realise but David took quite bit time
> off to create
> the tutorial. Jeremy and I also contributed some unpaid time into
> it. It was
> no small effort and if anyone can think of improving it, feel
> free to submit
> your additions and patches thru JIRA and we will try to apply them.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mark C. Orciuch
> Next Generation Solutions, Ltd.
> e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> web: http://www.ngsltd.com
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ken Gunderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:36 AM
> > To: Jetspeed Users List
> > Subject: Re: Documentation
> >
> >
> > On Friday 30 April 2004 07:35 am, Ron Wheeler wrote:
> > > I have some mindmaps that we generated in our first attempt to get
> > > something going in Jetspeed.
> > > It is a very complex environment with lots of pieces. It you have
> > > never worked with any of the underlying technologies, it is difficult
> > > to keep track of what each piece is and where the pieces touch. The
> > > names are particularly helpful;-).
> > >
> > > The tutorial was interesting but raised more questions than it
> > > solved. The construction of the old tutorial did not seem to follow
> > > very logically from the distribution jetspeed jar. As I recall, it
> > > appeared that files were in different directories and some files had
> > > been consolidated or restructured
> > > There seemed to be templates included in the demo which had been
> > > replaced by "prefered" methods in the documentation.
> > >
> > > I would have been better off if the time spent on creating the
> > > tutorial had been spent on writing documentation.
> > > I know that Apache is capable of writing good documentation. I use
> > > the HTTP server and Tomcat. They have pretty good documentation.
> > >
> > > A Wiki would be a good start and would allow the ignorant to at least
> > > document our misconceptions. The gurus could have a good laugh and a
> > > place of correct us.
> > [mondo top posting snippage..]
> >
> > My personal view is that wiki's kind of suck for this sort of thing
> > becuase you have very minimal quality control. Wiki's frequently become
> > disjointed collections, e.g. person #1 started a node "here", but
> > person #2 didn't see it and starts onother node on very similar topic
> > "there".  Additionally, with Wiki's you have no guarantee that the
> > author actually knows what they're talking about even if they might
> > have the ability to sound like they do.  As a sysadmin who uses and
> > evaluates numerous open source tools, I've had to comb through mor than
> > a few wiki based documentation projects.  Without some management and
> > oversight, they rapidly deteriorate into real pita's.
> >
> > That said, a little bird told me that Bluesunrise does have wiki
> > capabilities.  With Jetspeed 2 looming on t

Re: Documentation

[Ken Gunderson]

On Friday 30 April 2004 09:18 am, Ron Wheeler wrote:
> Even "formal" documentation in open source projects is a bit iffy.
> You can find some questionable information in Jakarta documentation
> and some information where the author clearly did not have any idea
> about what the parameters or functions did. Even the largest software
> company in the world does not always get their documentation (or
> software) right so I would not set the bar too high. I would advize
> anyone reading any software documentation to keep the salt shaker
> handy.
>
> At least a Jetspeed Wiki will give the "gurus" a place to correct any
> misinterpretations or erroneous information which is better that the
> current state of nothing. If the gurus take even the smallest amount
> of interest in this, I am confident that the information can be
> pretty good pretty quickly. Jetspeed is still a tool for pretty
> sophisticated people so we should not get a lot of gibberish written
> even by the newbies.
>
>
> Ron
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Gunderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:36 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: Re: Documentation
>
> On Friday 30 April 2004 07:35 am, Ron Wheeler wrote:
> > I have some mindmaps that we generated in our first attempt to get
> > something going in Jetspeed.
> > It is a very complex environment with lots of pieces. It you have
> > never worked with any of the underlying technologies, it is
> > difficult to keep track of what each piece is and where the pieces
> > touch. The names are particularly helpful;-).
> >
> > The tutorial was interesting but raised more questions than it
> > solved. The construction of the old tutorial did not seem to follow
> > very logically from the distribution jetspeed jar. As I recall, it
> > appeared that files were in different directories and some files
> > had been consolidated or restructured
> > There seemed to be templates included in the demo which had been
> > replaced by "prefered" methods in the documentation.
> >
> > I would have been better off if the time spent on creating the
> > tutorial had been spent on writing documentation.
> > I know that Apache is capable of writing good documentation. I use
> > the HTTP server and Tomcat. They have pretty good documentation.
> >
> > A Wiki would be a good start and would allow the ignorant to at
> > least document our misconceptions. The gurus could have a good
> > laugh and a place of correct us.
>
> [mondo top posting snippage..]
>
> My personal view is that wiki's kind of suck for this sort of thing
> becuase you have very minimal quality control. Wiki's frequently
> become disjointed collections, e.g. person #1 started a node "here",
> but person #2 didn't see it and starts onother node on very similar
> topic "there".  Additionally, with Wiki's you have no guarantee that
> the author actually knows what they're talking about even if they
> might have the ability to sound like they do.  As a sysadmin who uses
> and evaluates numerous open source tools, I've had to comb through
> mor than a few wiki based documentation projects.  Without some
> management and oversight, they rapidly deteriorate into real pita's.
>
> That said, a little bird told me that Bluesunrise does have wiki
> capabilities.  With Jetspeed 2 looming on the horizon, however, I
> suspect investing a whole lot of time in Jetspeed 1 documentation
> isn't too high on the list of priorities.  I think the Jetspeed 2
> group has someone dedicated to working on docs, but maybe Scott,
> Jeremy, David,et.al can comment??
>
> My $0.02

Arrggghhh!!  Bloody top posters;-p

See important key closing sentence of paragraph 1;-)  Also note opening 
sentence of paragraph 2 >;-D 

I think there is some debate w/in ASF regarding the use of wikis.  I'm 
pretty sure there have been some issues in the past in regards to some 
critical remarks that were posted on one of the subproject wiki sites 
that left a bad taste in the mouths of some higher up types.  I could 
be full of malarky though.  That's the chance you take;-)

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RE: Documentation

[Ron Wheeler]

Mark.
What do you think of a Wiki? Do you think that it would reduce the amount of
time the development team have to spend helping the rest of us get it right?
What is involved in getting an Apache Wiki started?

Ron

-Original Message-
From: Mark Orciuch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 11:09 AM
To: Jetspeed Users List
Subject: RE: Documentation


I don't want to make it sound like J1 is dead. As a matter a fact, I think
the J1 is here to stay for a while as the "lite" version of Jetspeed.
However, it is true that most of the Jetspeed resources have been diverted
to work on J2. There's probably 3 of us actively maintaining J1 (note the
word "maintaining") and David is also working full-time on J2. This is the
reason why there will be no big documentation activity in the near future.
Not unless I clone myself or find some corporate sponsorship to do more J1
work ;-)

I will try to update the documentation in whatever spare time I get.

BTW: I'm not sure if you realise but David took quite bit time off to create
the tutorial. Jeremy and I also contributed some unpaid time into it. It was
no small effort and if anyone can think of improving it, feel free to submit
your additions and patches thru JIRA and we will try to apply them.

Best regards,

Mark C. Orciuch
Next Generation Solutions, Ltd.
e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: http://www.ngsltd.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Gunderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:36 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: Re: Documentation
>
>
> On Friday 30 April 2004 07:35 am, Ron Wheeler wrote:
> > I have some mindmaps that we generated in our first attempt to get
> > something going in Jetspeed.
> > It is a very complex environment with lots of pieces. It you have
> > never worked with any of the underlying technologies, it is difficult
> > to keep track of what each piece is and where the pieces touch. The
> > names are particularly helpful;-).
> >
> > The tutorial was interesting but raised more questions than it
> > solved. The construction of the old tutorial did not seem to follow
> > very logically from the distribution jetspeed jar. As I recall, it
> > appeared that files were in different directories and some files had
> > been consolidated or restructured
> > There seemed to be templates included in the demo which had been
> > replaced by "prefered" methods in the documentation.
> >
> > I would have been better off if the time spent on creating the
> > tutorial had been spent on writing documentation.
> > I know that Apache is capable of writing good documentation. I use
> > the HTTP server and Tomcat. They have pretty good documentation.
> >
> > A Wiki would be a good start and would allow the ignorant to at least
> > document our misconceptions. The gurus could have a good laugh and a
> > place of correct us.
> [mondo top posting snippage..]
>
> My personal view is that wiki's kind of suck for this sort of thing
> becuase you have very minimal quality control. Wiki's frequently become
> disjointed collections, e.g. person #1 started a node "here", but
> person #2 didn't see it and starts onother node on very similar topic
> "there".  Additionally, with Wiki's you have no guarantee that the
> author actually knows what they're talking about even if they might
> have the ability to sound like they do.  As a sysadmin who uses and
> evaluates numerous open source tools, I've had to comb through mor than
> a few wiki based documentation projects.  Without some management and
> oversight, they rapidly deteriorate into real pita's.
>
> That said, a little bird told me that Bluesunrise does have wiki
> capabilities.  With Jetspeed 2 looming on the horizon, however, I
> suspect investing a whole lot of time in Jetspeed 1 documentation isn't
> too high on the list of priorities.  I think the Jetspeed 2 group has
> someone dedicated to working on docs, but maybe Scott, Jeremy,
> David,et.al can comment??
>
> My $0.02
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ken Gunderson
> GPG Key-- 9F5179FD
>
> "Freedom begins between the ears."  -- Edward Abbey
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RE: Documentation

[Ron Wheeler]

Even "formal" documentation in open source projects is a bit iffy. You can
find some questionable information in Jakarta documentation and some
information where the author clearly did not have any idea about what the
parameters or functions did. Even the largest software company in the world
does not always get their documentation (or software) right so I would not
set the bar too high. I would advize anyone reading any software
documentation to keep the salt shaker handy.

At least a Jetspeed Wiki will give the "gurus" a place to correct any
misinterpretations or erroneous information which is better that the current
state of nothing. If the gurus take even the smallest amount of interest in
this, I am confident that the information can be pretty good pretty quickly.
Jetspeed is still a tool for pretty sophisticated people so we should not
get a lot of gibberish written even by the newbies.


Ron

-Original Message-
From: Ken Gunderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 10:36 AM
To: Jetspeed Users List
Subject: Re: Documentation


On Friday 30 April 2004 07:35 am, Ron Wheeler wrote:
> I have some mindmaps that we generated in our first attempt to get
> something going in Jetspeed.
> It is a very complex environment with lots of pieces. It you have
> never worked with any of the underlying technologies, it is difficult
> to keep track of what each piece is and where the pieces touch. The
> names are particularly helpful;-).
>
> The tutorial was interesting but raised more questions than it
> solved. The construction of the old tutorial did not seem to follow
> very logically from the distribution jetspeed jar. As I recall, it
> appeared that files were in different directories and some files had
> been consolidated or restructured
> There seemed to be templates included in the demo which had been
> replaced by "prefered" methods in the documentation.
>
> I would have been better off if the time spent on creating the
> tutorial had been spent on writing documentation.
> I know that Apache is capable of writing good documentation. I use
> the HTTP server and Tomcat. They have pretty good documentation.
>
> A Wiki would be a good start and would allow the ignorant to at least
> document our misconceptions. The gurus could have a good laugh and a
> place of correct us.
[mondo top posting snippage..]

My personal view is that wiki's kind of suck for this sort of thing
becuase you have very minimal quality control. Wiki's frequently become
disjointed collections, e.g. person #1 started a node "here", but
person #2 didn't see it and starts onother node on very similar topic
"there".  Additionally, with Wiki's you have no guarantee that the
author actually knows what they're talking about even if they might
have the ability to sound like they do.  As a sysadmin who uses and
evaluates numerous open source tools, I've had to comb through mor than
a few wiki based documentation projects.  Without some management and
oversight, they rapidly deteriorate into real pita's.

That said, a little bird told me that Bluesunrise does have wiki
capabilities.  With Jetspeed 2 looming on the horizon, however, I
suspect investing a whole lot of time in Jetspeed 1 documentation isn't
too high on the list of priorities.  I think the Jetspeed 2 group has
someone dedicated to working on docs, but maybe Scott, Jeremy,
David,et.al can comment??

My $0.02

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RE: Documentation

[Mark Orciuch]

I don't want to make it sound like J1 is dead. As a matter a fact, I think
the J1 is here to stay for a while as the "lite" version of Jetspeed.
However, it is true that most of the Jetspeed resources have been diverted
to work on J2. There's probably 3 of us actively maintaining J1 (note the
word "maintaining") and David is also working full-time on J2. This is the
reason why there will be no big documentation activity in the near future.
Not unless I clone myself or find some corporate sponsorship to do more J1
work ;-)

I will try to update the documentation in whatever spare time I get.

BTW: I'm not sure if you realise but David took quite bit time off to create
the tutorial. Jeremy and I also contributed some unpaid time into it. It was
no small effort and if anyone can think of improving it, feel free to submit
your additions and patches thru JIRA and we will try to apply them.

Best regards,

Mark C. Orciuch
Next Generation Solutions, Ltd.
e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: http://www.ngsltd.com

> -Original Message-
> From: Ken Gunderson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 9:36 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: Re: Documentation
>
>
> On Friday 30 April 2004 07:35 am, Ron Wheeler wrote:
> > I have some mindmaps that we generated in our first attempt to get
> > something going in Jetspeed.
> > It is a very complex environment with lots of pieces. It you have
> > never worked with any of the underlying technologies, it is difficult
> > to keep track of what each piece is and where the pieces touch. The
> > names are particularly helpful;-).
> >
> > The tutorial was interesting but raised more questions than it
> > solved. The construction of the old tutorial did not seem to follow
> > very logically from the distribution jetspeed jar. As I recall, it
> > appeared that files were in different directories and some files had
> > been consolidated or restructured
> > There seemed to be templates included in the demo which had been
> > replaced by "prefered" methods in the documentation.
> >
> > I would have been better off if the time spent on creating the
> > tutorial had been spent on writing documentation.
> > I know that Apache is capable of writing good documentation. I use
> > the HTTP server and Tomcat. They have pretty good documentation.
> >
> > A Wiki would be a good start and would allow the ignorant to at least
> > document our misconceptions. The gurus could have a good laugh and a
> > place of correct us.
> [mondo top posting snippage..]
>
> My personal view is that wiki's kind of suck for this sort of thing
> becuase you have very minimal quality control. Wiki's frequently become
> disjointed collections, e.g. person #1 started a node "here", but
> person #2 didn't see it and starts onother node on very similar topic
> "there".  Additionally, with Wiki's you have no guarantee that the
> author actually knows what they're talking about even if they might
> have the ability to sound like they do.  As a sysadmin who uses and
> evaluates numerous open source tools, I've had to comb through mor than
> a few wiki based documentation projects.  Without some management and
> oversight, they rapidly deteriorate into real pita's.
>
> That said, a little bird told me that Bluesunrise does have wiki
> capabilities.  With Jetspeed 2 looming on the horizon, however, I
> suspect investing a whole lot of time in Jetspeed 1 documentation isn't
> too high on the list of priorities.  I think the Jetspeed 2 group has
> someone dedicated to working on docs, but maybe Scott, Jeremy,
> David,et.al can comment??
>
> My $0.02
>
> --
> Best regards,
>
> Ken Gunderson
> GPG Key-- 9F5179FD
>
> "Freedom begins between the ears."  -- Edward Abbey
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Re: Documentation

[Ken Gunderson]

On Friday 30 April 2004 07:35 am, Ron Wheeler wrote:
> I have some mindmaps that we generated in our first attempt to get
> something going in Jetspeed.
> It is a very complex environment with lots of pieces. It you have
> never worked with any of the underlying technologies, it is difficult
> to keep track of what each piece is and where the pieces touch. The
> names are particularly helpful;-).
>
> The tutorial was interesting but raised more questions than it
> solved. The construction of the old tutorial did not seem to follow
> very logically from the distribution jetspeed jar. As I recall, it
> appeared that files were in different directories and some files had
> been consolidated or restructured
> There seemed to be templates included in the demo which had been
> replaced by "prefered" methods in the documentation.
>
> I would have been better off if the time spent on creating the
> tutorial had been spent on writing documentation.
> I know that Apache is capable of writing good documentation. I use
> the HTTP server and Tomcat. They have pretty good documentation.
>
> A Wiki would be a good start and would allow the ignorant to at least
> document our misconceptions. The gurus could have a good laugh and a
> place of correct us.
[mondo top posting snippage..]

My personal view is that wiki's kind of suck for this sort of thing 
becuase you have very minimal quality control. Wiki's frequently become 
disjointed collections, e.g. person #1 started a node "here", but 
person #2 didn't see it and starts onother node on very similar topic 
"there".  Additionally, with Wiki's you have no guarantee that the 
author actually knows what they're talking about even if they might 
have the ability to sound like they do.  As a sysadmin who uses and 
evaluates numerous open source tools, I've had to comb through mor than 
a few wiki based documentation projects.  Without some management and 
oversight, they rapidly deteriorate into real pita's.

That said, a little bird told me that Bluesunrise does have wiki 
capabilities.  With Jetspeed 2 looming on the horizon, however, I 
suspect investing a whole lot of time in Jetspeed 1 documentation isn't 
too high on the list of priorities.  I think the Jetspeed 2 group has 
someone dedicated to working on docs, but maybe Scott, Jeremy, 
David,et.al can comment??  

My $0.02

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Best regards,

Ken Gunderson
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RE: Documentation

[Ron Wheeler]

I have some mindmaps that we generated in our first attempt to get something
going in Jetspeed.
It is a very complex environment with lots of pieces. It you have never
worked with any of the underlying technologies, it is difficult to keep
track of what each piece is and where the pieces touch. The names are
particularly helpful;-).

The tutorial was interesting but raised more questions than it solved.
The construction of the old tutorial did not seem to follow very logically
from the distribution jetspeed jar. As I recall, it appeared that files were
in different directories and some files had been consolidated or
restructured
There seemed to be templates included in the demo which had been replaced by
"prefered" methods in the documentation.

I would have been better off if the time spent on creating the tutorial had
been spent on writing documentation.
I know that Apache is capable of writing good documentation. I use the HTTP
server and Tomcat. They have pretty good documentation.

A Wiki would be a good start and would allow the ignorant to at least
document our misconceptions. The gurus could have a good laugh and a place
of correct us.

Ron


-Original Message-
From: Jason Shindler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 8:03 AM
To: Jetspeed Users List
Subject: RE: Documentation


I happen to agree with all of this talk re: documentation. What about
starting a Wiki? The Apache project has one set up. How do we get a
sub-wiki on there?

This way, those of us who are interested in this (passionately) can work
together.

Jason


-Original Message-
From: Stefan Rennick Egglestone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 5:21 AM
To: Jetspeed Users List
Subject: Re: Documentation

Coming from the perspective of someone who's just starting out with
Jetspeed, I'm quite happy to contribute ideas about what would make
learning Jetspeed easier for myself as I find my way through.

As a start, if it's useful to anyone, I can spend a few weeks learning
and then write something up and post it to the mailing list?

Stef

Visvanath, Sridhar (Cognizant) wrote:

>Stefan, What you say makes sense.
>But, What I understand from Alberto is this :
>All he needs is a Architecture diagram as to how jetspeed interfaces
with other such engines like turbine, torque etc.,
>He is ready to put in his effort. All he requires is architecture
diagram from folks who are already knowledgable. Obviously  a newbie
cannot come up with this when so much effort has already happened.
>
>Alberto, I guess maybe you can ask the developer mailing list to give u
an architecture diagram on jetspeed. And then we can work through making
a document.
>
>Thanks & Regards
>Sridhar Visvanath
>***
>If you do not stand for something, you'll fall for everything
>***
>
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Stefan Rennick Egglestone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:33 PM
>To: Jetspeed Users List
>Subject: Re: Documentation
>
>
>I've got to say, you're pushing this a bit hard. There are plenty of
>example portlets in Jetspeed. Read the tutorial, work out what you need

>to know, look for example portlets that do it, look at their code to
see
>how they work. If you want to know about turbine, veloctiy etc read
>their project pages. There's probably as much information out there as
>in a manual, but it's a bit distributed. Use your brain and work
through it.
>
>And if you have success, start writing a manual, contribute it and
maybe
>other people will add bits too. I'm a newbi who's slowly learning my
way
>through Jetspeed, and I certainly would.
>
>Not meaning to be rude or anything, but you've got as much time as
>anyone else who's worked on the project.
>
>Stef :-)
>
>Alberto Rodriguez Galdo wrote:
>
>
>
>>Absolutely rigth.
>>
>>Some kind of documentation is a must in this kind of products, not
>>only how-to-program-portlets guides but an entire architecture and
>>philosophy description.
>>
>>Just for the mortal of us to understand wich is the role of Turbine,
>>Velocity, Castor, fulcrum, ecs and village (for instance) in Jetspeed.
>>
>>Please be kind and put some effort in writing such a manual, i would
>>help in any manner you like (first i need to understand jetspeed
myself).
>>
>>greets
>>
>>
>>
>>At 17.47 28/4/04 +0200, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Is there any book covering programming and deploying JetSpeed?
>>>
>>>I need it very much now.  It is urgent
>>>
>>>thank in adva

RE: Documentation

[Jason Shindler]

I happen to agree with all of this talk re: documentation. What about
starting a Wiki? The Apache project has one set up. How do we get a
sub-wiki on there? 

This way, those of us who are interested in this (passionately) can work
together.

Jason


-Original Message-
From: Stefan Rennick Egglestone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 5:21 AM
To: Jetspeed Users List
Subject: Re: Documentation

Coming from the perspective of someone who's just starting out with 
Jetspeed, I'm quite happy to contribute ideas about what would make 
learning Jetspeed easier for myself as I find my way through.

As a start, if it's useful to anyone, I can spend a few weeks learning 
and then write something up and post it to the mailing list?

Stef

Visvanath, Sridhar (Cognizant) wrote:

>Stefan, What you say makes sense. 
>But, What I understand from Alberto is this :
>All he needs is a Architecture diagram as to how jetspeed interfaces
with other such engines like turbine, torque etc.,
>He is ready to put in his effort. All he requires is architecture
diagram from folks who are already knowledgable. Obviously  a newbie
cannot come up with this when so much effort has already happened.
>
>Alberto, I guess maybe you can ask the developer mailing list to give u
an architecture diagram on jetspeed. And then we can work through making
a document. 
>
>Thanks & Regards
>Sridhar Visvanath
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> 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Stefan Rennick Egglestone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:33 PM
>To: Jetspeed Users List
>Subject: Re: Documentation
>
>
>I've got to say, you're pushing this a bit hard. There are plenty of 
>example portlets in Jetspeed. Read the tutorial, work out what you need

>to know, look for example portlets that do it, look at their code to
see 
>how they work. If you want to know about turbine, veloctiy etc read 
>their project pages. There's probably as much information out there as 
>in a manual, but it's a bit distributed. Use your brain and work
through it.
>
>And if you have success, start writing a manual, contribute it and
maybe 
>other people will add bits too. I'm a newbi who's slowly learning my
way 
>through Jetspeed, and I certainly would.
>
>Not meaning to be rude or anything, but you've got as much time as 
>anyone else who's worked on the project.
>
>Stef :-)
>
>Alberto Rodriguez Galdo wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Absolutely rigth.
>>
>>Some kind of documentation is a must in this kind of products, not 
>>only how-to-program-portlets guides but an entire architecture and 
>>philosophy description.
>>
>>Just for the mortal of us to understand wich is the role of Turbine, 
>>Velocity, Castor, fulcrum, ecs and village (for instance) in Jetspeed.
>>
>>Please be kind and put some effort in writing such a manual, i would 
>>help in any manner you like (first i need to understand jetspeed
myself).
>>
>>greets
>>
>>
>>
>>At 17.47 28/4/04 +0200, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>Is there any book covering programming and deploying JetSpeed?
>>>
>>>I need it very much now.  It is urgent
>>>
>>>thank in advance
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Re: Documentation

[Stefan Rennick Egglestone]

Coming from the perspective of someone who's just starting out with 
Jetspeed, I'm quite happy to contribute ideas about what would make 
learning Jetspeed easier for myself as I find my way through.

As a start, if it's useful to anyone, I can spend a few weeks learning 
and then write something up and post it to the mailing list?

Stef

Visvanath, Sridhar (Cognizant) wrote:

Stefan, What you say makes sense. 
But, What I understand from Alberto is this :
All he needs is a Architecture diagram as to how jetspeed interfaces with other such engines like turbine, torque etc.,
He is ready to put in his effort. All he requires is architecture diagram from folks who are already knowledgable. Obviously  a newbie cannot come up with this when so much effort has already happened.

Alberto, I guess maybe you can ask the developer mailing list to give u an architecture diagram on jetspeed. And then we can work through making a document. 

Thanks & Regards
Sridhar Visvanath
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-Original Message-
From: Stefan Rennick Egglestone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:33 PM
To: Jetspeed Users List
Subject: Re: Documentation
I've got to say, you're pushing this a bit hard. There are plenty of 
example portlets in Jetspeed. Read the tutorial, work out what you need 
to know, look for example portlets that do it, look at their code to see 
how they work. If you want to know about turbine, veloctiy etc read 
their project pages. There's probably as much information out there as 
in a manual, but it's a bit distributed. Use your brain and work through it.

And if you have success, start writing a manual, contribute it and maybe 
other people will add bits too. I'm a newbi who's slowly learning my way 
through Jetspeed, and I certainly would.

Not meaning to be rude or anything, but you've got as much time as 
anyone else who's worked on the project.

Stef :-)

Alberto Rodriguez Galdo wrote:

 

Absolutely rigth.

Some kind of documentation is a must in this kind of products, not 
only how-to-program-portlets guides but an entire architecture and 
philosophy description.

Just for the mortal of us to understand wich is the role of Turbine, 
Velocity, Castor, fulcrum, ecs and village (for instance) in Jetspeed.

Please be kind and put some effort in writing such a manual, i would 
help in any manner you like (first i need to understand jetspeed myself).

greets



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Re: Documentation

[Stefan Rennick Egglestone]

I've got to say, you're pushing this a bit hard. There are plenty of 
example portlets in Jetspeed. Read the tutorial, work out what you need 
to know, look for example portlets that do it, look at their code to see 
how they work. If you want to know about turbine, veloctiy etc read 
their project pages. There's probably as much information out there as 
in a manual, but it's a bit distributed. Use your brain and work through it.

And if you have success, start writing a manual, contribute it and maybe 
other people will add bits too. I'm a newbi who's slowly learning my way 
through Jetspeed, and I certainly would.

Not meaning to be rude or anything, but you've got as much time as 
anyone else who's worked on the project.

Stef :-)

Alberto Rodriguez Galdo wrote:

Absolutely rigth.

Some kind of documentation is a must in this kind of products, not 
only how-to-program-portlets guides but an entire architecture and 
philosophy description.

Just for the mortal of us to understand wich is the role of Turbine, 
Velocity, Castor, fulcrum, ecs and village (for instance) in Jetspeed.

Please be kind and put some effort in writing such a manual, i would 
help in any manner you like (first i need to understand jetspeed myself).

greets



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RE: Documentation

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Stefan, What you say makes sense. 
But, What I understand from Alberto is this :
All he needs is a Architecture diagram as to how jetspeed interfaces with other such 
engines like turbine, torque etc.,
He is ready to put in his effort. All he requires is architecture diagram from folks 
who are already knowledgable. Obviously  a newbie cannot come up with this when so 
much effort has already happened.

Alberto, I guess maybe you can ask the developer mailing list to give u an 
architecture diagram on jetspeed. And then we can work through making a document. 

Thanks & Regards
Sridhar Visvanath
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From: Stefan Rennick Egglestone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:33 PM
To: Jetspeed Users List
Subject: Re: Documentation


I've got to say, you're pushing this a bit hard. There are plenty of 
example portlets in Jetspeed. Read the tutorial, work out what you need 
to know, look for example portlets that do it, look at their code to see 
how they work. If you want to know about turbine, veloctiy etc read 
their project pages. There's probably as much information out there as 
in a manual, but it's a bit distributed. Use your brain and work through it.

And if you have success, start writing a manual, contribute it and maybe 
other people will add bits too. I'm a newbi who's slowly learning my way 
through Jetspeed, and I certainly would.

Not meaning to be rude or anything, but you've got as much time as 
anyone else who's worked on the project.

Stef :-)

Alberto Rodriguez Galdo wrote:

> Absolutely rigth.
>
> Some kind of documentation is a must in this kind of products, not 
> only how-to-program-portlets guides but an entire architecture and 
> philosophy description.
>
> Just for the mortal of us to understand wich is the role of Turbine, 
> Velocity, Castor, fulcrum, ecs and village (for instance) in Jetspeed.
>
> Please be kind and put some effort in writing such a manual, i would 
> help in any manner you like (first i need to understand jetspeed myself).
>
> greets
>
>
>
> At 17.47 28/4/04 +0200, you wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Is there any book covering programming and deploying JetSpeed?
>>
>> I need it very much now.  It is urgent
>>
>> thank in advance
>>
>> David Cornide
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Absolutely rigth.

Some kind of documentation is a must in this kind of products, not only 
how-to-program-portlets guides but an entire architecture and philosophy 
description.

Just for the mortal of us to understand wich is the role of Turbine, 
Velocity, Castor, fulcrum, ecs and village (for instance) in Jetspeed.

Please be kind and put some effort in writing such a manual, i would help 
in any manner you like (first i need to understand jetspeed myself).

greets



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RE: Jetspeed documentation

[Alberto Rodriguez Galdo]

I'm still thinking there's a need of written documentation, i'm not part
of the jetspeed developer team, so if i want to know how jetspeed works
i need someone to assist me.

I would be very pleased of contributing doc but first i need to
understand how it works, and that's something i cannot do alone...


El lun, 26-04-2004 a las 18:39, Mark Orciuch escribió:
> Search the archives, post your questions to the list but don't expect anyone
> to write a book on Jetpeed in the near future. I'd love to do that but I
> must pay my bills first ;-)
> 
> You should get most of your questions answered via the list and, with some
> diligence, you'll find lots of information in the mailing list archives. If
> you're really serious about using Jetspeed-1, please get involved in
> improving the existing documentation. Such is the way of open source.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Mark C. Orciuch
> Next Generation Solutions, Ltd.
> e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Cornide Albo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:16 AM
> > To: Jetspeed Users List
> > Subject: RE: Jetspeed documentation
> >
> >
> > Alberto you are very right.
> >
> > It is necessary more documentation and some explanations about
> > architectural design and decissions.
> >
> > Best regards.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > At 18.12 26/4/04 +0200, you wrote:
> > >I've already read the tutorial and there's no such lot of documentation,
> > >only hello world-alike examples
> > >
> > >At 10.34 26/4/04 -0500, you wrote:
> > >>Try the tutorial - lots of documentation there.
> > >>
> > >>Best regards,
> > >>
> > >>Mark C. Orciuch
> > >>Next Generation Solutions, Ltd.
> > >>e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>web: http://www.ngsltd.com
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > -----Original Message-
> > >> > From: Alberto Rodriguez Galdo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 7:42 AM
> > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> > Subject: Jetspeed documentation
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > Hey guys, seems that you've made a first-class quality job
> > with jetspeed,
> > >> > but how can we use properly Jetspeed without documentation
> > >> >
> > >> > It is the time to stop and write some documentation, i'm sure
> > >> > there's lots
> > >> > of people willing to use jetspeed in their projects but they
> > can't only
> > >> > because the lack of documentation
> > >> >
> > >> > I've been almost one week trying to guess how Velocity, Torque
> > >> > and Turbine
> > >> > work altogether, now i'm tired of trying to guess how in
> > hell jetspeed
> > >> > manages to fill and use $jslink variables, now i'm thinking
> > in throwing
> > >> > jetspeed off and have some retirement in the woods...
> > >> >
> > >> > Please, let's make some documentation!!
> > >> >
> > >> > greetings
> > >> >
> > >> > p.s.- I know writing docs is not as exciting as writing
> > software, i'm a
> > >> > programmer too, but it's necesary as projects grow and grow
> > >> >
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RE: Jetspeed documentation

[Mark Orciuch]

Search the archives, post your questions to the list but don't expect anyone
to write a book on Jetpeed in the near future. I'd love to do that but I
must pay my bills first ;-)

You should get most of your questions answered via the list and, with some
diligence, you'll find lots of information in the mailing list archives. If
you're really serious about using Jetspeed-1, please get involved in
improving the existing documentation. Such is the way of open source.

Best regards,

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> -Original Message-
> From: David Cornide Albo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:16 AM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: RE: Jetspeed documentation
>
>
> Alberto you are very right.
>
> It is necessary more documentation and some explanations about
> architectural design and decissions.
>
> Best regards.
>
>
>
>
> At 18.12 26/4/04 +0200, you wrote:
> >I've already read the tutorial and there's no such lot of documentation,
> >only hello world-alike examples
> >
> >At 10.34 26/4/04 -0500, you wrote:
> >>Try the tutorial - lots of documentation there.
> >>
> >>Best regards,
> >>
> >>Mark C. Orciuch
> >>Next Generation Solutions, Ltd.
> >>e-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>web: http://www.ngsltd.com
> >>
> >>
> >> > -Original Message-
> >> > From: Alberto Rodriguez Galdo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 7:42 AM
> >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> > Subject: Jetspeed documentation
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hey guys, seems that you've made a first-class quality job
> with jetspeed,
> >> > but how can we use properly Jetspeed without documentation
> >> >
> >> > It is the time to stop and write some documentation, i'm sure
> >> > there's lots
> >> > of people willing to use jetspeed in their projects but they
> can't only
> >> > because the lack of documentation
> >> >
> >> > I've been almost one week trying to guess how Velocity, Torque
> >> > and Turbine
> >> > work altogether, now i'm tired of trying to guess how in
> hell jetspeed
> >> > manages to fill and use $jslink variables, now i'm thinking
> in throwing
> >> > jetspeed off and have some retirement in the woods...
> >> >
> >> > Please, let's make some documentation!!
> >> >
> >> > greetings
> >> >
> >> > p.s.- I know writing docs is not as exciting as writing
> software, i'm a
> >> > programmer too, but it's necesary as projects grow and grow
> >> >
> >> >
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Alberto you are very right.

It is necessary more documentation and some explanations about 
architectural design and decissions.

Best regards.



At 18.12 26/4/04 +0200, you wrote:
I've already read the tutorial and there's no such lot of documentation, 
only hello world-alike examples

At 10.34 26/4/04 -0500, you wrote:
Try the tutorial - lots of documentation there.

Best regards,

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> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 7:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Jetspeed documentation
>
>
> Hey guys, seems that you've made a first-class quality job with jetspeed,
> but how can we use properly Jetspeed without documentation
>
> It is the time to stop and write some documentation, i'm sure
> there's lots
> of people willing to use jetspeed in their projects but they can't only
> because the lack of documentation
>
> I've been almost one week trying to guess how Velocity, Torque
> and Turbine
> work altogether, now i'm tired of trying to guess how in hell jetspeed
> manages to fill and use $jslink variables, now i'm thinking in throwing
> jetspeed off and have some retirement in the woods...
>
> Please, let's make some documentation!!
>
> greetings
>
> p.s.- I know writing docs is not as exciting as writing software, i'm a
> programmer too, but it's necesary as projects grow and grow
>
>
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RE: Jetspeed documentation

[Alberto Rodriguez Galdo]

I've already read the tutorial and there's no such lot of documentation, 
only hello world-alike examples

At 10.34 26/4/04 -0500, you wrote:
Try the tutorial - lots of documentation there.

Best regards,

Mark C. Orciuch
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> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 7:42 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Jetspeed documentation
>
>
> Hey guys, seems that you've made a first-class quality job with jetspeed,
> but how can we use properly Jetspeed without documentation
>
> It is the time to stop and write some documentation, i'm sure
> there's lots
> of people willing to use jetspeed in their projects but they can't only
> because the lack of documentation
>
> I've been almost one week trying to guess how Velocity, Torque
> and Turbine
> work altogether, now i'm tired of trying to guess how in hell jetspeed
> manages to fill and use $jslink variables, now i'm thinking in throwing
> jetspeed off and have some retirement in the woods...
>
> Please, let's make some documentation!!
>
> greetings
>
> p.s.- I know writing docs is not as exciting as writing software, i'm a
> programmer too, but it's necesary as projects grow and grow
>
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RE: Jetspeed documentation

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Try the tutorial - lots of documentation there.

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> Hey guys, seems that you've made a first-class quality job with jetspeed,
> but how can we use properly Jetspeed without documentation
>
> It is the time to stop and write some documentation, i'm sure
> there's lots
> of people willing to use jetspeed in their projects but they can't only
> because the lack of documentation
>
> I've been almost one week trying to guess how Velocity, Torque
> and Turbine
> work altogether, now i'm tired of trying to guess how in hell jetspeed
> manages to fill and use $jslink variables, now i'm thinking in throwing
> jetspeed off and have some retirement in the woods...
>
> Please, let's make some documentation!!
>
> greetings
>
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Jetspeed documentation

[Alberto Rodriguez Galdo]

Hey guys, seems that you've made a first-class quality job with jetspeed, 
but how can we use properly Jetspeed without documentation

It is the time to stop and write some documentation, i'm sure there's lots 
of people willing to use jetspeed in their projects but they can't only 
because the lack of documentation

I've been almost one week trying to guess how Velocity, Torque and Turbine 
work altogether, now i'm tired of trying to guess how in hell jetspeed 
manages to fill and use $jslink variables, now i'm thinking in throwing 
jetspeed off and have some retirement in the woods...

Please, let's make some documentation!!

greetings

p.s.- I know writing docs is not as exciting as writing software, i'm a 
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Re: Book/extensive documentation on Jetspeed wanted:K@N@!:

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I want this book with a autographs of the authors (the fathers of
Jetspeed1-2)
:-)

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> There was a pending book from Wrox Press, but since they went out of
> business I'm not sure if another publisher picked up the manuscript.
>
>
> Jason
>
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RE: Book/extensive documentation on Jetspeed wanted:K@N@!:

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Anyone know who the author was? If so we could just
contact him. He should be able to assist. Moreover
get some lother publisher to do it .. or publish
it himself. :) We have some small pringting
companies that enables individual publishing. Pretty
cool!

/jØRGEn!..

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RE: Book/extensive documentation on Jetspeed wanted:K@N@!:

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I have been approached by Manning to do one and there are a couple of other developers 
that will be co-authoring it with me.  We are waiting to get a fully-functional 
version of J2 out the door before we start writing it though.

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> There was a pending book from Wrox Press, but since they went out of
> business I'm not sure if another publisher picked up the manuscript.
> 
> 
> Jason
> 
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> Hi, friends:
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> have just read the tutorial from its home page, and, though a good
> starting point, I need more...
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> 
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[Jason Weiss]

There was a pending book from Wrox Press, but since they went out of
business I'm not sure if another publisher picked up the manuscript.


Jason

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Hi, friends:

Does anybody know about a good book on creating portals with Jetspeed? I 
have just read the tutorial from its home page, and, though a good 
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That could be a collector's item some day.  You might even see it on e-bay :p


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> 
> I want this book with a autographs of the authors (the fathers of
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> :-)
> 
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> 
> I have been approached by Manning to do one and there are a couple of
> other
> developers that will be co-authoring it with me.  We are waiting to get a
> fully-functional version of J2 out the door before we start writing it
> though.
> 
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> > business I'm not sure if another publisher picked up the manuscript.
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
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> > have just read the tutorial from its home page, and, though a good
> > starting point, I need more...
> >
> > Thnx.
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> 
> I want this book with a autographs of the authors (the fathers of
> Jetspeed1-2)
> :-)
> 
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> 
> I have been approached by Manning to do one and there are a couple of
> other
> developers that will be co-authoring it with me.  We are waiting to get a
> fully-functional version of J2 out the door before we start writing it
> though.
> 
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> > business I'm not sure if another publisher picked up the manuscript.
> >
> >
> > Jason
> >
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> >
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> >
> > Does anybody know about a good book on creating portals with Jetspeed? I
> > have just read the tutorial from its home page, and, though a good
> > starting point, I need more...
> >
> > Thnx.
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I want this book with a autographs of the authors (the fathers of
Jetspeed1-2)
:-)

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I have been approached by Manning to do one and there are a couple of other
developers that will be co-authoring it with me.  We are waiting to get a
fully-functional version of J2 out the door before we start writing it
though.

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>
> There was a pending book from Wrox Press, but since they went out of
> business I'm not sure if another publisher picked up the manuscript.
>
>
> Jason
>
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> Hi, friends:
>
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Anyone know who the author was? If so we could just
contact him. He should be able to assist. Moreover
get some lother publisher to do it .. or publish
it himself. :) We have some small pringting
companies that enables individual publishing. Pretty
cool!

/jØRGEn!..

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>
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> Jason
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I have been approached by Manning to do one and there are a couple of other developers 
that will be co-authoring it with me.  We are waiting to get a fully-functional 
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> 
> There was a pending book from Wrox Press, but since they went out of
> business I'm not sure if another publisher picked up the manuscript.
> 
> 
> Jason
> 
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> 
> Hi, friends:
> 
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> have just read the tutorial from its home page, and, though a good
> starting point, I need more...
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RE: Book/extensive documentation on Jetspeed wanted

[Jason Weiss]

There was a pending book from Wrox Press, but since they went out of
business I'm not sure if another publisher picked up the manuscript.


Jason

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Book/extensive documentation on Jetspeed wanted

[Jesús María Román Ruiz del Moral]

Hi, friends:

Does anybody know about a good book on creating portals with Jetspeed? I 
have just read the tutorial from its home page, and, though a good 
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Jetspeed documentation.

[Qualilearning Technical]

Hi,

I'm a newbie in Jetspeed. I have read the documentation and the tutorial
about Jetspeed. Is there other sources of information about Jetspeed
like web sites, pdf, samples...

I have to use Jetspeed to develop a Portal and a CMS solution so I have
to find the maximum info to start in the right way.

Thanks.

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Printing Jetspeed documentation from jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed / printer friendly format ?

[Tuttenuj, Thomas]

Hi,

This is a more general topic:

when trying to print some of the Jetspeed documents
one can hardly read it, because the text is not wrapped on the right border,
not even, when i try to print to print it landscape.

for example this doc:
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/site/security.html

can I do something to change this ?
could the apache team rethink the formatting ???

kind regards,
and nice holidays !

thomas
germany


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RE: printable documentation

[Luta, Raphael (VUN)]

AFAIK, currently no. We're using the default page creation
system of Jakarta (Anakia) that does not generate the HTMl out the
XML documentation files.

However, using another tool like Forrest, it should be pretty easy to 
generate a printable, portable PDF file out of the documentation xdocs.

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> 
> hi everyone
> 
> Is it possible to get a printable documentation of jetspeed somewhere?
> 
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[Eric Tchepannou]

hi everyone

Is it possible to get a printable documentation of jetspeed somewhere?

Merci..


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Jetspeed documentation

[Don Clark]

Please keep width to a size that will print.  Most of the doc pages are
wider than will print even in landscape, plus they are harder to read.

Can any body help me in getting the complete documentation.

[Sateesh Kumar]

Hi,
As u ppl know, jetspeed is installed as an application in tomcat. How
can I change the home page of it. Can I deploy my servlets in that. I want a
tutorial or examples on how to use jetspeed in other applications...

thanks,
sateesh

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Re: tutorial or documentation on Jetspeed

[Paul Spencer]

Frans,
Contributions are always welcome.

Paul Spencer

Frans Thamura wrote:

> Not enough i think...
> 
> can have a comment, Paul???
> 
> Frans
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>>Patrick,
>>Start here http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/site/config_guide.html
>>
>>Paul Spencer
>>
>>Patrick Munis wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Are there any good tutorials or documentation on Jetspeed that can help
>>>one get up and running.
>>>
>>>thanks
>>>Patrick
>>>
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Not enough i think...

can have a comment, Paul???

Frans

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> Start here http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/site/config_guide.html
>
> Paul Spencer
>
> Patrick Munis wrote:
>
> > Are there any good tutorials or documentation on Jetspeed that can help
> > one get up and running.
> >
> > thanks
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Re: tutorial or documentation on Jetspeed

[Frans Thamura]

I try to run the portlet of that example, but i forgot which one the script
were changed by me...

the concept is still same..and the portlet run well but WML version..


I like the ECS demo of that article.. good work man..

Frans


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From: "Santosh Panda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'Jetspeed Users List'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 2:02 PM
Subject: RE: tutorial or documentation on Jetspeed


>
> Hi Jeff,
> Thank you for your wonderful article in javaworld.
> As the 1,3a2 has completely changed as far as configuration is concerned
so
> i feel basic information is needed for configuration,there is all old docs
> available in http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed
>
> -Santosh
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Linwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:40 PM
> To: Jetspeed Users List
> Subject: Re: tutorial or documentation on Jetspeed
>
>
> I wrote an article on Jetspeed for Javaworld at
> http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2001/jw-0727-jetspeed.html
>
> Unfortunately, it's really for Jetspeed 1.3a1, and now that Jetspeed 1.3a2
> is released, it's not as relevant.
>
> Have you read through all the documentation on
> http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed? That's really the main source of
> information.
>
> Jeff
> - Original Message -
> From: "Patrick Munis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:43 AM
> Subject: tutorial or documentation on Jetspeed
>
>
> Are there any good tutorials or documentation on Jetspeed that can help
> one get up and running.
>
> thanks
> Patrick
>
>
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Re: documentation

[Mickael Remond]

Markus Strauß ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> hi guys
> after releasing the 1.3a2 i think it would be VERY nice if you could
> update the documentation - it is not always helpful reading docs which
> refer to 1.3a1 version.
> it would be best if the portlet-howto site and the other relevant stuff
> at www.bluesunrise.com could be updated as well
> 
> okay, i know that is a task no one likes ;)

Maybe I could help on this topic.
I am very new to Jetspeed and still trying to figure out how Jetspeed
works but I will anyway write what I discover for myself, so this could
be a good idea to start contributing...

> anyway... millions of jetspeed users would appreciate it

Yes, indeed...

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RE: tutorial or documentation on Jetspeed

[Santosh Panda]

Hi Jeff,
Thank you for your wonderful article in javaworld.
As the 1,3a2 has completely changed as far as configuration is concerned so
i feel basic information is needed for configuration,there is all old docs
available in http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed

-Santosh


-Original Message-
From: Jeff Linwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:40 PM
To: Jetspeed Users List
Subject: Re: tutorial or documentation on Jetspeed


I wrote an article on Jetspeed for Javaworld at
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2001/jw-0727-jetspeed.html

Unfortunately, it's really for Jetspeed 1.3a1, and now that Jetspeed 1.3a2
is released, it's not as relevant.

Have you read through all the documentation on
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed? That's really the main source of
information.

Jeff
- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Munis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:43 AM
Subject: tutorial or documentation on Jetspeed


Are there any good tutorials or documentation on Jetspeed that can help
one get up and running.

thanks
Patrick



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Re: tutorial or documentation on Jetspeed

[Jeff Linwood]

I wrote an article on Jetspeed for Javaworld at
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-07-2001/jw-0727-jetspeed.html

Unfortunately, it's really for Jetspeed 1.3a1, and now that Jetspeed 1.3a2
is released, it's not as relevant.

Have you read through all the documentation on
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed? That's really the main source of
information.

Jeff
- Original Message -
From: "Patrick Munis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2001 10:43 AM
Subject: tutorial or documentation on Jetspeed


Are there any good tutorials or documentation on Jetspeed that can help
one get up and running.

thanks
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Re: tutorial or documentation on Jetspeed

[Paul Spencer]

Patrick,
Start here http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/site/config_guide.html

Paul Spencer

Patrick Munis wrote:

> Are there any good tutorials or documentation on Jetspeed that can help
> one get up and running.
> 
> thanks
> Patrick
> 
> 



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tutorial or documentation on Jetspeed

[Patrick Munis]

Are there any good tutorials or documentation on Jetspeed that can help
one get up and running.

thanks
Patrick

documentation

[Markus Strauß]

hi guys
after releasing the 1.3a2 i think it would be VERY nice if you could
update the documentation - it is not always helpful reading docs which
refer to 1.3a1 version.
it would be best if the portlet-howto site and the other relevant stuff
at www.bluesunrise.com could be updated as well

okay, i know that is a task no one likes ;)

anyway... millions of jetspeed users would appreciate it


Mit freundlichen Grüßen / With best regards

Markus Strauß
Softwareentwickler
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: documentation for role, group, permission.

[Paul Spencer]

Frans Thamura wrote:

> Hi Paul and All.,
> 
> There si no tutorial or documentation explain about group, role and
> permission...


See http://www.mail-archive.com/jetspeed-user%40jakarta.apache.org/msg01868.html


> 
> and why jetspeed will use turbine/turbine user psml as a default, not a
> anonymous psml.


Add  "default psml for new user" is on my list, I had not thought of using the default 
user.



> 
> Question
> 1. Do you know how to change so user will copy the anomynouys' psml to the
> new user and new group.
> 


See above


> 2. How to access a psml using role, group
> 
> the case study:
> I login as admin/jetspeed and create a group "draco".
> 
> The jetspeed will create a /psml/group/draco, right!!!
> 
> inside the draco will be a html directory and a default.psml
> 
> I assign it to a turbine/turbine..
> 
> I login as turbine/turbine
> 
> 
> I write http://localhost:8080/jetspeed/group/apache.


Try http://localhost:8080/jetspeed/portal/group/apache for default.psml and 
http://localhost:8080/jetspeed/portal/group/apache/news for news.pmsl


> 
> but the page cannot be found..
> 
> so, how to access that psml???
> 
> 
> 
> Frans
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Frans



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documentation for role, group, permission.

[Frans Thamura]

Hi Paul and All.,

There si no tutorial or documentation explain about group, role and
permission...

and why jetspeed will use turbine/turbine user psml as a default, not a
anonymous psml.

Question
1. Do you know how to change so user will copy the anomynouys' psml to the
new user and new group.

2. How to access a psml using role, group

the case study:
I login as admin/jetspeed and create a group "draco".

The jetspeed will create a /psml/group/draco, right!!!

inside the draco will be a html directory and a default.psml

I assign it to a turbine/turbine..

I login as turbine/turbine


I write http://localhost:8080/jetspeed/group/apache.

but the page cannot be found..

so, how to access that psml???



Frans




Frans
- Original Message -
From: "Paul Spencer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Jetspeed Users List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: Personalizing multiple PSML files


> Matthew,
> I was working on some think like this.  In that case I was using a
> group, i.e. /group/searchresults.  The groups are not use specific.
>
> To set up a group:
>1) Create a group directory in
> /WEB-INF/psml/group/
>2) Add the desired psml files.  The directory structure is similar
>   to the directory structure for user, i.e.
> ///.psml
>
> Paul Spencer
>
> Matthew Wizeman wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am trying to do a search results page that the users will be sent to
from
> > a searching portlet.  To implement this, I was thinking that I would
make a
> > searchresults.psml file in their directory that had only the search
results
> > portlet on it.  Then, I could post to /page/searchresults and they would
be
> > sent to the proper place.
> >
> > It seems to work great for anon users but when someone logs in, the
> > customize, maximize... icons don't work properly.  If clicked, they send
the
> > user back to the default.psml page.  Is there something special I need
to do
> > to get these links to work right?  I would like the users to be able to
use
> > the customize button so that they can control the look of their search
> > results.
> >
> > Any advice you can provide would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Matt
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[Tutorial] Another Documentation

[Frans Thamura]

Dear All,

I am creating new documentation, but still in draft..
I think I want to share my knowledge of Jetspeed,
hence there is less documentation in Jetspeed.

This the other

http://blueoxygen.linuxindonesia.com/project/kahiji/api/Jetspeed/PortletTutorial1.htm

Sorry for the english, I will fixed it later. 

May be in couple month, I can generate the most
complete Jetspeed documentation..

I need your feedback of this.. To much image or to
much etc...

This is the url I put all my draft documentation

http://blueoxygen.linuxindonesia.com/project/kahiji/api/Jetspeed

Have a nice try.


Frans Thamura

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RE: Having trouble building documentation, build cannot file ./site.vsl

[David Sean Taylor]

Fixed. Update:

/build/build.xml
/xdocs/todo.xml
 
> I am compiling notes on configuring Jetspeed, from an user's
> perspective.  

Awesome!

> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Spencer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 9:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Having trouble building documentation, build cannot file
> ./site.vsl
> 
> 
> I am compiling notes on configuring Jetspeed, from an user's
> perspective.  I would prefer to use the XDOC format, so I can 
> submit the
> results to Jetspeed, and build the HTML using the "build doc" command.
> 
> I get the following errors:
> 
> F:\cvs_root\jakarta-jetspeed\build>build docs
> Buildfile: build.xml
> 
> check_for_jdom:
> 
> docs_prepare_error:
> 
> docs:
>[anakia] Transforming into: F:\cvs_root\jakarta-jetspeed\docs\site
>[anakia] Error:
> org.apache.velocity.exception.ResourceNotFoundException: 
> Unable to find
> resource './site.vsl'
> 
> BUILD FAILED
> 
> F:\cvs_root\jakarta-jetspeed\build\build.xml:325:
> org.apache.velocity.exception.
> ResourceNotFoundException: Unable to find resource './site.vsl'
> --- Nested Exception ---
> org.apache.velocity.exception.ResourceNotFoundException: 
> Unable to find
> resource './site.vsl'
>     at
> org.apache.velocity.runtime.resource.ResourceManager.getResour
> ce(ResourceManager.java:367)
> 
> 
> I have checkout the jakarta-site2 project per the documentation. 
> 
> What else do I need to do?
> 
> Thank you,
> Paul Spencer
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Having trouble building documentation, build cannot file ./site.vsl

[Paul Spencer]

I am compiling notes on configuring Jetspeed, from an user's
perspective.  I would prefer to use the XDOC format, so I can submit the
results to Jetspeed, and build the HTML using the "build doc" command.

I get the following errors:

F:\cvs_root\jakarta-jetspeed\build>build docs
Buildfile: build.xml

check_for_jdom:

docs_prepare_error:

docs:
   [anakia] Transforming into: F:\cvs_root\jakarta-jetspeed\docs\site
   [anakia] Error:
org.apache.velocity.exception.ResourceNotFoundException: Unable to find
resource './site.vsl'

BUILD FAILED

F:\cvs_root\jakarta-jetspeed\build\build.xml:325:
org.apache.velocity.exception.
ResourceNotFoundException: Unable to find resource './site.vsl'
--- Nested Exception ---
org.apache.velocity.exception.ResourceNotFoundException: Unable to find
resource './site.vsl'
at
org.apache.velocity.runtime.resource.ResourceManager.getResource(ResourceManager.java:367)


I have checkout the jakarta-site2 project per the documentation. 

What else do I need to do?

Thank you,
Paul Spencer

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