Re: Need Moderator assistance please.

[Stephanie Switzer via Jfw]

You could also try ja...@the-jdh.com

On 9/2/15, Lisle, Ted  (CHFS DMS) via Jfw  wrote:
> Within the past 48 hours you have received your monthly membership reminder.
>  You can try the address listed therein, jfw-ow...@lists.the-jdh.com.  I
> believe another lister gave this address earlier in this thread.
>
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> Gethers via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:56 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: O.Addison Gethers
> Subject: Re: Need Moderator assistance please.
>
> I was having the same problem too !! I did wrote to the moderator and have
> not heard anything from the moderator at all!!
> Addison
>
> O. Addison Gethers
>
> oag1rott...@hotmail.com
>
> Facebook
> oag1rot...@hotmail.com
>
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>   To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>   Cc: Tim Ford
>   Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:44 PM
>   Subject: Need Moderator assistance please.
>
>
>   I apologize for writing the entire list.  I tried but could never find an
> email address for the list moderator.  I need assistance.  Would one of the
> moderators please contact me off list?  I apologize in advance for this, but
> I just cannot figure out the list issue I am having; I do not see my own
> emails posted to the list, although I believe they are going through.
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what to expect with jaws 17

[Kimsan via Jfw]

I got this off their facebook page, so if I'm behind the times, sue me.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/About/FSCast

 

 

Kimsan Song

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RE: JAWS and Punctuation

[Carolyn Arnold via Jfw]

Kimsan, you sound like Donald you know who. 

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

You're fired...


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Adrian Spratt 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I think I caused some confusion by misreading Caroline's post in this
thread.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I think I know what you're talking about now.  I'm a little slow on the
uptake, as I use echo off in everything but spreadsheets and command
prompts.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:45 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

Specifically, it applies to what is "echoed"/spoken when you enter text, not
to reading text in general.  And yes, it does not apply to punctuation.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 4:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

For clarity sake, the below is for how much is spoken as it pertains to text
and not punctuation, correct?


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Adrian Spratt 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

JAWS key+2 on the number row above the letters.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

It would be nice if there was a temporary setting for punctuation like for
character, word, character and word or none.

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good
example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For instance, I taught my
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse numbers,
but seemingly nowhere else.  I tried the same trick with single-quote
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is
most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting 

Need help making internet explorer my default browser.

[Carliss via Jfw]

Listers,

I am running jaws16 and windows10. I am having problems making internet
explorer my default browser. Please if you will, tell me what I need to do
to do this.

Also, I want google to be my home page? Is this possible in windows10?

Thanks to all.

 

 

Carliss

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Re: language question

[Dave Carlson via Jfw]

Sandra,

All I can suggest is to play around with unusual letter combinations, and 
even consider the grave accent mark or apostrophe to modify the way the 
sound comes out. Bear in mind that this would be done one way with 
Eloquence, but would be very different with some other synthesizer -- they 
vary quite a bit in their phoneme dictionaries.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and pioneer

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To: <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Sandra Streeter" <sandrastreeter...@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 06:54 PM
Subject: language question


Hi, all:

Is there a way to get JAWS to replicate the French soft J sound, as in “Jean 
Valjean”? I was trying to change its pronunciation of that name in the 
dictionary manager program, but couldn’t get it to pronounce it as I knew it 
should be pronounced. Any pointers, appreciated! Thanks!



Sandra
“To love another person is to se the face of God.”
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language question

[Sandra Streeter via Jfw]

Hi, all:

Is there a way to get JAWS to replicate the French soft J sound, as in “Jean 
Valjean”? I was trying to change its pronunciation of that name in the 
dictionary manager program, but couldn’t get it to pronounce it as I knew it 
should be pronounced. Any pointers, appreciated! Thanks!



Sandra
“To love another person is to se the face of God.”
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Re: Firefox 40 question

[Brad Martin via Jfw]

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Using SiriusXM.com with JAWS.

[Tim Ford via Jfw]

Hello listers,

I just signed up for the online version of SiriusXM.com, which is probably 
redundant!  I am flummoxed with what to do from here.  Are there JAWS 
friendly instructions that anyone knows of?  If not, is there someone who I 
could pay to teach me how to navigate the web site?  I just want to listen 
to football and baseball without all the fuss.  Any assistance or ideas is 
greatly appreciated.  Contacting me off-list is fine, the email address is 
below my name.


Sincerely,
Tim Ford
Email:  ttf...@gmail.com


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RE: office 365

[Kimsan via Jfw]

In outlook 2013, there is no need to "create" an unread folder.
When I'm in my jfw email list, I just tab, and there is an unread button, I
press spacebar, and poof all the unread emails are there.


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 10:31 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Adrian Spratt 
Subject: RE: office 365

You can create an "unread" folder for unread mail. This collects unread
email from all folders where you direct email. I haven't done it in a while,
but you'll find instructions via Google. 

Oh, I'm using Outlook 2010, but I'd be surprised if this very useful feature
were omitted from 2013.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: office 365

That was most interesting, and we may get it here before I hang it up.  I
was thinking you were having trouble with Office in general; I don't use
Outlook in my home installation.  In fact, until I quit procrastinating, I
don't have much of an e-mail setup right now.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:00 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: office 365

I think Outlook 2013 is a good system. I just have a lot to learn with the
ribbon concept and all, coming from Outlook  Express. I think Outlook is
superior to Outlook Express. I have had it for three weeks and realize that
I had OE for 11 years and did not learn it over night. 

You can hit Control Y and go to various boxes. Control 3 takes you directly
to Contacts; Control 1 or Control Shift I will take you back to Inbox. Also
you can hit Control Y then I to go back to it. One thing that I liked better
about OE is that it might say, 50 messages, 44 unread. With this, you just
get the unread, and you can't hit Control U to get to them. You have to
arrow to them. Joseph that helped me got it fixed where that the unread
message does not go away when I arrow through lists to get to personal
messages. It has Favorites. That is, that you Control Tab, and there you
have a list of your boxes, Calendar, Journal, Notes, etc. I have tried to
get a book on it, but the library has none. I understand there is one for
$80, which I would not be purchasing at this point, since I just bought
computer, JAWS upgrades then had to replace hearing aids. 

A good working set up with it is the contacts. When writing an e-mail, when
you are in the address fields, To, cc, or bcc, you press Alt Period, and the
contact list appears like it does for a sighted person. You must arrow
through names, and when you see the name you want, hit enter. Go through the
list until you have them, then press enter twice. 

As far as I know, with attachments, you get on the document you want to
attach and press Control C to copy it. You go back to Outlook, enter your
contact(s), go to Subject, and then paste the copy in the body. That is way
different than I have had, where I could pull up a directory, go to the item
I wanted to attach and press Enter. 

I don't know how to work in the extra features, but have listed some
appointments in Calendar. 

Joseph the Free Tech guy from another list has spent a lot of time getting
me to the point where I am. 

There is one section called notes. It could work for me, when I'm on the
phone taking information. Then I could work on it and either file it else
where or use it in an e-mail, if I want. That is a good place to store
shipping information, etc. 

I have set up a box though called All mine, where I park e-mails like that
with tracking number and that sort of information. 

I set up a box called Keepers, where I have stored tutorial information
regarding Outlook and Office 2013. 

I set up a box for one of my lists, but must have missed a step, because
nothing was coming to my Inbox and everything going there, so I had to move
everything out of that one and just delete the box. To do that, you Control
Tab to Favorites and arrow to the box and hit Delete. 

I hope this rambling gives you a tiny glimpse of Outlook. Me telling you
about is about like me describing how the new car models look this year. 

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:46 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: office 365

Carolyn, tell us more about 2013.  I can't say I've been a heavy user
lately, but I have it at home, and have no special problems with it. I'm
still 

RE: JAWS and Punctuation

[Kimsan via Jfw]

You're fired...


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 5:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Adrian Spratt 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I think I caused some confusion by misreading Caroline's post in this
thread.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I think I know what you're talking about now.  I'm a little slow on the
uptake, as I use echo off in everything but spreadsheets and command
prompts.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:45 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

Specifically, it applies to what is "echoed"/spoken when you enter text, not
to reading text in general.  And yes, it does not apply to punctuation.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 4:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

For clarity sake, the below is for how much is spoken as it pertains to text
and not punctuation, correct?


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Adrian Spratt 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

JAWS key+2 on the number row above the letters.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

It would be nice if there was a temporary setting for punctuation like for
character, word, character and word or none.

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good
example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For instance, I taught my
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse numbers,
but seemingly nowhere else.  I tried the same trick with single-quote
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in
Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings
center / configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is
most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the
" all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down
through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work
backwards than what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels 

Need Recommendation for an Accessible and Powerful Media Player

[Richard B. McDonald via Jfw]

Hi!

 

Windows Media Player seems just a bit clunky to me.  Does anyone have a
recommendation for a powerful, accessible media player?  Mostly, this would
be a player for audio files.  Organizing a media library, creating
playlists, burning and ripping CDs and things like that are paramount.

 

Thanks,

Richard

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Re: Firefox 40 question

[Gerald Levy via Jfw]

You can download Firefox 35 portable and other earlier versions of Firefox 
from the following web site.  Just download the version you want and save it 
someplace that is easy to find.  Because this is a portable version, it does 
not install permenantly on your PC like the full version, but runs as a .exe 
file.  You can pin the .exe file to the start menu so that you can easily 
launch it .  I find Firefox 35 to be much more stable and JAWS friendly than 
FF 40.  Mozilla keeps tinkering with Firefox to the detriment of screen 
reader users like us.



ttp://portable-firefox.soft32.com/old-version/


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

Hi Gerald,

I didn’t know that you could have multiple versions of Firefox installed. 
Where would I find the version 35? I think if I can find an earlier version, 
I’ll simply uninstall version 40.


Cheers,

Russell
On Sep 1, 2015, at 4:35 AM, Gerald Levy via Jfw  
wrote:



Yes, I have noticed the same behavior with Firefox 40, and it seems to 
crash or freeze more frequently than previous versions.  I'm so fed up 
with Firefox 40 that I installed the portable version of Firefox 35, which 
seems to be more stable andJAWS friendly.  Keep in mind that unlike IE, 
you can have multiple versions of Firefox on your PC simultaneously.


Gerald



-Original Message- From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another 
without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It also 
takes a very long time to load some web pages.


Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?

Thanks,

Russell
On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw 
 wrote:


Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and 
has

to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler 
via

Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for 
Windows

support list.' 
Cc: Tom Behler 
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.



Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then able 
to

open The web site from that point.



However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
Firefox 40.



Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?



I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change 
in

Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.



I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.



Thank you.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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RE: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

[Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw]

Asterisks are only necessary when you want to define a root word, and various 
derivatives.  For instance, pronouncing e-mail or e-mails or e-mailing without 
the hyphen looks like this:

E-mail*
Email

Ted
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir 
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Soronel Haetir
Subject: Re: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

Also note that if what you are searching on includes punctuation you can often 
get away with breaking the entry there.

For instance, in windows programming there are a great many 'words' of the form 
XX_COMBINEDWORDS, and often the same COMBINEDWORDS will appear to the right of 
many different XX_ tags. You can then make dictionary entries for just  the 
COMBINEDWORDS (leaving off the leading tag) and jaws will correctly use the 
replacement for the trailing portion regardless of the leading tag.

On 9/1/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw  wrote:
> Thanks.  That will come in handy.
>
> ...  and, you would have to include the "*" in the "replacement word" 
> box, as well as in the "actual word" box.  Correct?
>
> Jim H
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, 
> Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 3:52 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
> Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
> Subject: RE: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...
>
> Library entries? You can use them when creating dictionary entries for 
> a root word and various derivatives.  Unlike Dos search terms, they 
> have to come at the end, though.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Hamilton via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:59 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Jim Hamilton
> Subject: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...
>
> Can one use a "wildcard, usually a "*" when editing JAWS Library entries?
>
> This question was brought to mind by the below message on another topic.
>
> Jim H
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, 
> Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
> Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
> Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation
>
> I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a 
> good example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to 
> use the dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For 
> instance, I taught my Bible not to speak colons, which appeared 
> between chapter and verse numbers, but seemingly nowhere else.  I 
> tried the same trick with single-quote apostrophes, but then found 
> that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to think of it, that 
> might be a good test of custom punctuation.
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. 
> via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Mike B.
> Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation
>
> Howdy All,
>
> This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings 
> in Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default 
> settings center / configuration manager.  They work backwards from one 
> another.
>
> When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this 
> controls the amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The 
> default setting is most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would 
> select some or none.
>
> When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically 
> tells Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you 
> do not want Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you 
> want to choose the " all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons 
> to arrow up or down through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In 
> these selections they work backwards than what you would think.  For 
> example;  If you choose " none "
> for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in 
> whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
> radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.
>
> Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2 
> punctuation setting options.
>
> Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
> Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation
>
>
> I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? 
> What are the practical differences between all, some, most?  

RE: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

[Jim Hamilton via Jfw]

Thanks.  That's very clear.  I appreciate the "exact" example.

Jim H


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 2, 2015 8:03 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

Asterisks are only necessary when you want to define a root word, and
various derivatives.  For instance, pronouncing e-mail or e-mails or
e-mailing without the hyphen looks like this:

E-mail*
Email

Ted
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Soronel Haetir
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 5:03 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Soronel Haetir
Subject: Re: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...

Also note that if what you are searching on includes punctuation you can
often get away with breaking the entry there.

For instance, in windows programming there are a great many 'words' of the
form XX_COMBINEDWORDS, and often the same COMBINEDWORDS will appear to the
right of many different XX_ tags. You can then make dictionary entries for
just  the COMBINEDWORDS (leaving off the leading tag) and jaws will
correctly use the replacement for the trailing portion regardless of the
leading tag.

On 9/1/15, Jim Hamilton via Jfw  wrote:
> Thanks.  That will come in handy.
>
> ...  and, you would have to include the "*" in the "replacement word"
> box, as well as in the "actual word" box.  Correct?
>
> Jim H
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle,
> Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 3:52 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
> Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
> Subject: RE: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...
>
> Library entries? You can use them when creating dictionary entries for
> a root word and various derivatives.  Unlike Dos search terms, they
> have to come at the end, though.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Hamilton via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 12:59 PM
> To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
> Cc: Jim Hamilton
> Subject: JAWS Library entries - with "wildcards" ...
>
> Can one use a "wildcard, usually a "*" when editing JAWS Library entries?
>
> This question was brought to mind by the below message on another topic.
>
> Jim H
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle,
> Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
> Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
> Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation
>
> I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a
> good example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to
> use the dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For
> instance, I taught my Bible not to speak colons, which appeared
> between chapter and verse numbers, but seemingly nowhere else.  I
> tried the same trick with single-quote apostrophes, but then found
> that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to think of it, that
> might be a good test of custom punctuation.
>
> Ted
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B.
> via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Mike B.
> Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation
>
> Howdy All,
>
> This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings
> in Jaws options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default
> settings center / configuration manager.  They work backwards from one
another.
>
> When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this
> controls the amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The
> default setting is most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would
> select some or none.
>
> When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically
> tells Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you
> do not want Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you
> want to choose the " all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons
> to arrow up or down through.  They are none, some, most, & all.  In
> these selections they work backwards than what you would think.  For
> example;  If you choose " none "
> for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in
> whatever you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
> radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.
>
> Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2
> punctuation setting options.
>
> Take care.
> Mike
> This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go 

Re: Firefox 40 question

[majno via Jfw]

Yes, for example, in firefox 40 flash is avoided is there is a better 
alternative. flash is unsafe right now. the privacy options also are 
improve in firefox 40, and they are even thinking in improve i more for 
next update. some firefox addons are not more supported for old firefox 
version, and others are not compatible.


firefox has some crash every time, but works fine in general. far better 
than internet explorer, who also has crash from time to time.


El 02/09/2015 a las 7:25, Adrian Spratt via Jfw escribió:

This is tempting. But I believe Mozilla enhances security support with each 
version, so by working with an older version, do we risk exposure to online 
nastiness?

The link was missing the initial h, so I'm copying it again:
http://portable-firefox.soft32.com/old-version/

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via 
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 6:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Gerald Levy
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question


You can download Firefox 35 portable and other earlier versions of Firefox
from the following web site.  Just download the version you want and save it
someplace that is easy to find.  Because this is a portable version, it does
not install permenantly on your PC like the full version, but runs as a .exe
file.  You can pin the .exe file to the start menu so that you can easily
launch it .  I find Firefox 35 to be much more stable and JAWS friendly than
FF 40.  Mozilla keeps tinkering with Firefox to the detriment of screen
reader users like us.


ttp://portable-firefox.soft32.com/old-version/


Gerald



-Original Message-
From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

Hi Gerald,

I didn’t know that you could have multiple versions of Firefox installed.
Where would I find the version 35? I think if I can find an earlier version,
I’ll simply uninstall version 40.

Cheers,

Russell

On Sep 1, 2015, at 4:35 AM, Gerald Levy via Jfw 
wrote:


Yes, I have noticed the same behavior with Firefox 40, and it seems to
crash or freeze more frequently than previous versions.  I'm so fed up
with Firefox 40 that I installed the portable version of Firefox 35, which
seems to be more stable andJAWS friendly.  Keep in mind that unlike IE,
you can have multiple versions of Firefox on your PC simultaneously.

Gerald



-Original Message- From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another
without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It also
takes a very long time to load some web pages.

Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?

Thanks,

Russell

On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw
 wrote:

Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and
has
to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for
Windows
support list.' 
Cc: Tom Behler 
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.



Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then able
to
open The web site from that point.



However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
Firefox 40.



Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?



I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change
in
Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.



I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.



Thank you.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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[Bill White via Jfw]

I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.



Thank you.



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Re: Firefox 40 question

[Dacia Cole via Jfw]

Okay,

In a previous message it sounded like someone was saying that it
didn't automatically update.  I'm glad it does as I hate having to
always update things.

On 9/2/15, Dacia Cole  wrote:
> That does sound like a nice alternative if you want.  However, my
> question is how do you set it to automatically update?
>
> thanks,
>
> Dacia
>
> On 9/2/15, Gerald Levy  via Jfw  wrote:
>>
>> There is a common misconception that every time a browser is updated, its
>> security features are also updated.  But this is not necessarily the
>> case.
>> I think Mozilla keeps updating Firefox to fix bugs that it created in the
>> first place.  I don't think FF 40 is necessarily more secure than FF 35,
>> but
>> if you are uncomfortable using FF 35, that's for you to decide.  My
>> understanding is that FF 40 added enhancements for improved compatibility
>> with Windows 10, which may explain why it is more sluggish and vulnerable
>> to
>> freezes and crashes than previous versions which are not Win 10
>> compatible.
>> The advantage of installing the portable version of FF 35 is that if you
>> decide not to use it, you can simply revert to using FF 40 as you see
>> fit.
>> No harm, no foul.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:25 AM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Cc: Adrian Spratt
>> Subject: RE: Firefox 40 question
>>
>> This is tempting. But I believe Mozilla enhances security support with
>> each
>> version, so by working with an older version, do we risk exposure to
>> online
>> nastiness?
>>
>> The link was missing the initial h, so I'm copying it again:
>> http://portable-firefox.soft32.com/old-version/
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
>> via Jfw
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 6:47 AM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Cc: Gerald Levy
>> Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question
>>
>>
>> You can download Firefox 35 portable and other earlier versions of
>> Firefox
>> from the following web site.  Just download the version you want and save
>> it
>> someplace that is easy to find.  Because this is a portable version, it
>> does
>> not install permenantly on your PC like the full version, but runs as a
>> .exe
>> file.  You can pin the .exe file to the start menu so that you can easily
>> launch it .  I find Firefox 35 to be much more stable and JAWS friendly
>> than
>> FF 40.  Mozilla keeps tinkering with Firefox to the detriment of screen
>> reader users like us.
>>
>>
>> ttp://portable-firefox.soft32.com/old-version/
>>
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:59 PM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
>> Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question
>>
>> Hi Gerald,
>>
>> I didn’t know that you could have multiple versions of Firefox installed.
>> Where would I find the version 35? I think if I can find an earlier
>> version,
>> I’ll simply uninstall version 40.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Russell
>>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 4:35 AM, Gerald Levy via Jfw 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I have noticed the same behavior with Firefox 40, and it seems to
>>> crash or freeze more frequently than previous versions.  I'm so fed up
>>> with Firefox 40 that I installed the portable version of Firefox 35,
>>> which
>>> seems to be more stable andJAWS friendly.  Keep in mind that unlike IE,
>>> you can have multiple versions of Firefox on your PC simultaneously.
>>>
>>> Gerald
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message- From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:12 PM
>>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>>> Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
>>> Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question
>>>
>>> I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to
>>> another
>>> without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It
>>> also
>>> takes a very long time to load some web pages.
>>>
>>> Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Russell
 On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw
  wrote:

 Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and
 has
 to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
 control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom
 Behler
 via
 Jfw
 Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
 To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for
 Windows
 support list.' 
 Cc: Tom Behler 
 Subject: Firefox 40 question

 Hello, everyone.



 Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L 

Re: Firefox 40 question

[Gerald Levy via Jfw]

There is a common misconception that every time a browser is updated, its 
security features are also updated.  But this is not necessarily the case. 
I think Mozilla keeps updating Firefox to fix bugs that it created in the 
first place.  I don't think FF 40 is necessarily more secure than FF 35, but 
if you are uncomfortable using FF 35, that's for you to decide.  My 
understanding is that FF 40 added enhancements for improved compatibility 
with Windows 10, which may explain why it is more sluggish and vulnerable to 
freezes and crashes than previous versions which are not Win 10 compatible. 
The advantage of installing the portable version of FF 35 is that if you 
decide not to use it, you can simply revert to using FF 40 as you see fit. 
No harm, no foul.


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw

Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:25 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Adrian Spratt
Subject: RE: Firefox 40 question

This is tempting. But I believe Mozilla enhances security support with each 
version, so by working with an older version, do we risk exposure to online 
nastiness?


The link was missing the initial h, so I'm copying it again:
http://portable-firefox.soft32.com/old-version/

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
via Jfw

Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 6:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Gerald Levy
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question


You can download Firefox 35 portable and other earlier versions of Firefox
from the following web site.  Just download the version you want and save it
someplace that is easy to find.  Because this is a portable version, it does
not install permenantly on your PC like the full version, but runs as a .exe
file.  You can pin the .exe file to the start menu so that you can easily
launch it .  I find Firefox 35 to be much more stable and JAWS friendly than
FF 40.  Mozilla keeps tinkering with Firefox to the detriment of screen
reader users like us.


ttp://portable-firefox.soft32.com/old-version/


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

Hi Gerald,

I didn’t know that you could have multiple versions of Firefox installed.
Where would I find the version 35? I think if I can find an earlier version,
I’ll simply uninstall version 40.

Cheers,

Russell

On Sep 1, 2015, at 4:35 AM, Gerald Levy via Jfw 
wrote:


Yes, I have noticed the same behavior with Firefox 40, and it seems to
crash or freeze more frequently than previous versions.  I'm so fed up
with Firefox 40 that I installed the portable version of Firefox 35, which
seems to be more stable andJAWS friendly.  Keep in mind that unlike IE,
you can have multiple versions of Firefox on your PC simultaneously.

Gerald



-Original Message- From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another
without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It also
takes a very long time to load some web pages.

Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?

Thanks,

Russell

On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw
 wrote:

Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and
has
to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
via
Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for
Windows
support list.' 
Cc: Tom Behler 
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.



Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then able
to
open The web site from that point.



However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
Firefox 40.



Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?



I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change
in
Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.



I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.



Thank you.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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Re: Firefox 40 question

[Dacia Cole via Jfw]

That does sound like a nice alternative if you want.  However, my
question is how do you set it to automatically update?

thanks,

Dacia

On 9/2/15, Gerald Levy  via Jfw  wrote:
>
> There is a common misconception that every time a browser is updated, its
> security features are also updated.  But this is not necessarily the case.
> I think Mozilla keeps updating Firefox to fix bugs that it created in the
> first place.  I don't think FF 40 is necessarily more secure than FF 35, but
> if you are uncomfortable using FF 35, that's for you to decide.  My
> understanding is that FF 40 added enhancements for improved compatibility
> with Windows 10, which may explain why it is more sluggish and vulnerable to
> freezes and crashes than previous versions which are not Win 10 compatible.
> The advantage of installing the portable version of FF 35 is that if you
> decide not to use it, you can simply revert to using FF 40 as you see fit.
> No harm, no foul.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:25 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Adrian Spratt
> Subject: RE: Firefox 40 question
>
> This is tempting. But I believe Mozilla enhances security support with each
> version, so by working with an older version, do we risk exposure to online
> nastiness?
>
> The link was missing the initial h, so I'm copying it again:
> http://portable-firefox.soft32.com/old-version/
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
> via Jfw
> Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 6:47 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Gerald Levy
> Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question
>
>
> You can download Firefox 35 portable and other earlier versions of Firefox
> from the following web site.  Just download the version you want and save it
> someplace that is easy to find.  Because this is a portable version, it does
> not install permenantly on your PC like the full version, but runs as a .exe
> file.  You can pin the .exe file to the start menu so that you can easily
> launch it .  I find Firefox 35 to be much more stable and JAWS friendly than
> FF 40.  Mozilla keeps tinkering with Firefox to the detriment of screen
> reader users like us.
>
>
> ttp://portable-firefox.soft32.com/old-version/
>
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
> Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:59 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
> Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question
>
> Hi Gerald,
>
> I didn’t know that you could have multiple versions of Firefox installed.
> Where would I find the version 35? I think if I can find an earlier version,
> I’ll simply uninstall version 40.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Russell
>> On Sep 1, 2015, at 4:35 AM, Gerald Levy via Jfw 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes, I have noticed the same behavior with Firefox 40, and it seems to
>> crash or freeze more frequently than previous versions.  I'm so fed up
>> with Firefox 40 that I installed the portable version of Firefox 35, which
>> seems to be more stable andJAWS friendly.  Keep in mind that unlike IE,
>> you can have multiple versions of Firefox on your PC simultaneously.
>>
>> Gerald
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message- From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:12 PM
>> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
>> Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
>> Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question
>>
>> I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another
>> without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It also
>> takes a very long time to load some web pages.
>>
>> Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Russell
>>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and
>>> has
>>> to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
>>> control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler
>>> via
>>> Jfw
>>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
>>> To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for
>>> Windows
>>> support list.' 
>>> Cc: Tom Behler 
>>> Subject: Firefox 40 question
>>>
>>> Hello, everyone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
>>> paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then able
>>> to
>>> open The web site from that point.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
>>> Firefox 40.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to 

RE: JAWS and Punctuation

[Adrian Spratt via Jfw]

I think I caused some confusion by misreading Caroline's post in this thread.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS 
DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 8:08 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I think I know what you're talking about now.  I'm a little slow on the uptake, 
as I use echo off in everything but spreadsheets and command prompts.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton via 
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:45 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

Specifically, it applies to what is "echoed"/spoken when you enter text, not to 
reading text in general.  And yes, it does not apply to punctuation.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 4:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

For clarity sake, the below is for how much is spoken as it pertains to text 
and not punctuation, correct?


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via 
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Adrian Spratt 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

JAWS key+2 on the number row above the letters.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold 
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

It would be nice if there was a temporary setting for punctuation like for 
character, word, character and word or none.

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS 
DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good 
example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the 
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For instance, I taught my 
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse numbers, 
but seemingly nowhere else.  I tried the same trick with single-quote 
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to 
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in Jaws 
options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings center / 
configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the 
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is 
most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells 
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want 
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the " 
all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down through.  
They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work backwards than 
what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever 
you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2 
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are the 
practical differences between all, some, most?  Even none lets one or two 
things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support 

RE: Firefox 40 question

[Adrian Spratt via Jfw]

This is tempting. But I believe Mozilla enhances security support with each 
version, so by working with an older version, do we risk exposure to online 
nastiness? 

The link was missing the initial h, so I'm copying it again:
http://portable-firefox.soft32.com/old-version/

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy via 
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 6:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Gerald Levy
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question


You can download Firefox 35 portable and other earlier versions of Firefox 
from the following web site.  Just download the version you want and save it 
someplace that is easy to find.  Because this is a portable version, it does 
not install permenantly on your PC like the full version, but runs as a .exe 
file.  You can pin the .exe file to the start menu so that you can easily 
launch it .  I find Firefox 35 to be much more stable and JAWS friendly than 
FF 40.  Mozilla keeps tinkering with Firefox to the detriment of screen 
reader users like us.


ttp://portable-firefox.soft32.com/old-version/


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

Hi Gerald,

I didn’t know that you could have multiple versions of Firefox installed. 
Where would I find the version 35? I think if I can find an earlier version, 
I’ll simply uninstall version 40.

Cheers,

Russell
> On Sep 1, 2015, at 4:35 AM, Gerald Levy via Jfw  
> wrote:
>
>
> Yes, I have noticed the same behavior with Firefox 40, and it seems to 
> crash or freeze more frequently than previous versions.  I'm so fed up 
> with Firefox 40 that I installed the portable version of Firefox 35, which 
> seems to be more stable andJAWS friendly.  Keep in mind that unlike IE, 
> you can have multiple versions of Firefox on your PC simultaneously.
>
> Gerald
>
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:12 PM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
> Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question
>
> I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another 
> without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It also 
> takes a very long time to load some web pages.
>
> Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Russell
>> On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and 
>> has
>> to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
>> control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler 
>> via
>> Jfw
>> Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
>> To: Jaws users list ; 'The Jaws for 
>> Windows
>> support list.' 
>> Cc: Tom Behler 
>> Subject: Firefox 40 question
>>
>> Hello, everyone.
>>
>>
>>
>> Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
>> paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then able 
>> to
>> open The web site from that point.
>>
>>
>>
>> However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
>> Firefox 40.
>>
>>
>>
>> Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?
>>
>>
>>
>> I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
>> Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change 
>> in
>> Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan
>>
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RE: JAWS and Punctuation

[Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw]

I think I know what you're talking about now.  I'm a little slow on the uptake, 
as I use echo off in everything but spreadsheets and command prompts.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jim Hamilton via 
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 6:45 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Jim Hamilton
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

Specifically, it applies to what is "echoed"/spoken when you enter text, not to 
reading text in general.  And yes, it does not apply to punctuation.

Jim H

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 4:27 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' 
Cc: Kimsan 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

For clarity sake, the below is for how much is spoken as it pertains to text 
and not punctuation, correct?


Kimsan Song
kimsans...@gmail.com

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt via 
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 9:28 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Adrian Spratt 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

JAWS key+2 on the number row above the letters.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold 
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 11:28 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

It would be nice if there was a temporary setting for punctuation like for 
character, word, character and word or none.

Best from,

Carolyn

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted (CHFS 
DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 1, 2015 8:20 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) 
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation

I can't imagine why we would want some $s and not others, but it's a good 
example.  Another trick, and this one goes back a while, is to use the 
dictionary, particularly on an app-by-app basis.  For instance, I taught my 
Bible not to speak colons, which appeared between chapter and verse numbers, 
but seemingly nowhere else.  I tried the same trick with single-quote 
apostrophes, but then found that contractions didn't read properly.  Come to 
think of it, that might be a good test of custom punctuation.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 3:02 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Howdy All,

This is a note on the difference between changing punctuation settings in Jaws 
options, Insert + V, & customize punctuation in the default settings center / 
configuration manager.  They work backwards from one another.

When setting punctuation in Jaws options / quick settings, this controls the 
amount of punctuation JAWS will speak / recognize.  The default setting is 
most.  To hear less punctuation spoken you would select some or none.

When making changes in the customize punctuation list, this basically tells 
Jaws how much of a selected punctuation mark to ignore.  If you do not want 
Jaws to speak/recognize a particular punctuation mark you want to choose the " 
all " selection.  You will have 4 radio buttons to arrow up or down through.  
They are none, some, most, & all.  In these selections they work backwards than 
what you would think.  For example;  If you choose " none "
for the dollar sign, Jaws will speak / recognize every dollar sign in whatever 
you are reading.  On the other hand, if you choose the " all "
radio button, Jaws will not speak / recognize any dollar signs.

Hope this helps some of you understand the differences between the 2 
punctuation setting options.

Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message -
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 9:00 AM
Subject: RE: JAWS and Punctuation


I think the question is what changes do the different levels make? What are the 
practical differences between all, some, most?  Even none lets one or two 
things slip through--the apostrophe, for example.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Mike B. via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 12:55 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Mike B.
Subject: Re: JAWS and Punctuation

Yo Bro,

Different levels, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.  Different levels 
of what?  I know you don't mean the levels of how fast your check will bounce!  
LOL,  hahaha hahaha hahaha,  LOL Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

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Re: Firefox 40 question

[Bill White via Jfw]

Hi, Gerald. When I went to the site you gave in this link, Firefox blocked 
the file, and told me that

FirefoxPortable_35.0_English.paf.exe
may contain a virus or other malicious software. Did you get this 
announcement?


Thank you.
Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
- Original Message - 
From: "Gerald Levy via Jfw" <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>

To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: "Gerald Levy" <bwaylimi...@verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2015 3:46 AM
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question




You can download Firefox 35 portable and other earlier versions of Firefox 
from the following web site.  Just download the version you want and save 
it someplace that is easy to find.  Because this is a portable version, it 
does not install permenantly on your PC like the full version, but runs as 
a .exe file.  You can pin the .exe file to the start menu so that you can 
easily launch it .  I find Firefox 35 to be much more stable and JAWS 
friendly than FF 40.  Mozilla keeps tinkering with Firefox to the 
detriment of screen reader users like us.



ttp://portable-firefox.soft32.com/old-version/


Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw

Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 10:59 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

Hi Gerald,

I didn’t know that you could have multiple versions of Firefox installed. 
Where would I find the version 35? I think if I can find an earlier 
version, I’ll simply uninstall version 40.


Cheers,

Russell
On Sep 1, 2015, at 4:35 AM, Gerald Levy via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> 
wrote:



Yes, I have noticed the same behavior with Firefox 40, and it seems to 
crash or freeze more frequently than previous versions.  I'm so fed up 
with Firefox 40 that I installed the portable version of Firefox 35, 
which seems to be more stable andJAWS friendly.  Keep in mind that unlike 
IE, you can have multiple versions of Firefox on your PC simultaneously.


Gerald



-Original Message- From: Russell Solowoniuk via Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 10:12 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Russell Solowoniuk
Subject: Re: Firefox 40 question

I am finding that Firefox 40 keeps switching from one open tab to another 
without me doing anything but reading a page. It’s quite annoying. It 
also takes a very long time to load some web pages.


Is anyone else finding Firefox switching tabs on its own?

Thanks,

Russell
On Aug 31, 2015, at 6:06 PM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw 
<jfw@lists.the-jdh.com> wrote:


Yes, Have had this problem for several days. Firefox keeps crashing and 
has

to restart. Control-l let me type one web address, but when I tried
control-l for another address, it wouldn't work.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Behler 
via

Jfw
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2015 6:48 PM
To: Jaws users list <jaws-users-l...@jaws-users.com>; 'The Jaws for 
Windows

support list.' <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Cc: Tom Behler <tombeh...@gmail.com>
Subject: Firefox 40 question

Hello, everyone.



Typically, with Firefox, I use the control L command, after which I can
paste a web site address into the edit box, and hit enter.  I'm then 
able to

open The web site from that point.



However, I'm finding that the control L command  no longer works with
Firefox 40.



Has anyone noticed this change, and are there good work-arounds?



I have gotten to the point where I actually prefer Firefox to Internet
Explorer for accessing and navigating web sites, so this apparent change 
in

Firefox behavior is somewhat disconcerting.



I'm using Jaws 16 and Windows 7 here.



Thank you.



Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan



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RE: Need Moderator assistance please.

[Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw]

Within the past 48 hours you have received your monthly membership reminder.  
You can try the address listed therein, jfw-ow...@lists.the-jdh.com.  I believe 
another lister gave this address earlier in this thread.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of O.Addison Gethers 
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 8:56 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: O.Addison Gethers
Subject: Re: Need Moderator assistance please.

I was having the same problem too !! I did wrote to the moderator and have not 
heard anything from the moderator at all!!
Addison 

O. Addison Gethers

oag1rott...@hotmail.com

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  - Original Message - 
  From: Tim Ford via Jfw 
  To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
  Cc: Tim Ford 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 4:44 PM
  Subject: Need Moderator assistance please.


  I apologize for writing the entire list.  I tried but could never find an 
email address for the list moderator.  I need assistance.  Would one of the 
moderators please contact me off list?  I apologize in advance for this, but I 
just cannot figure out the list issue I am having; I do not see my own emails 
posted to the list, although I believe they are going through.
  
  Tim Ford
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