RE: JAWS not reading cell contents in Excel

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Sameer.

I've experienced this too.  Be sure that the window that you have opened excel 
in is maximized to begin with. 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan 
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 3:26 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: JAWS not reading cell contents in Excel

Sorry for the late response. 
My Zoom is at 100%
Cheers Kevin. 

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sameer via Jfw
Sent: November-13-15 10:39 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. 
Cc: Sameer 
Subject: Re: JAWS not reading cell contents in Excel


After pressing F2 to enter the cell, I pressed Home & then the right arrow key. 
JAWS still said "Blank, Blank".

What is the zoom level in Excel on your computer? A friend suggested that my 
100% zoom level could be the problem.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Hourigan via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 11:19 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kevin Hourigan
Subject: RE: JAWS not reading cell contents in Excel

Hello Sameer,
Works for me using the same equipment; you do realize that the cursor is at the 
far right of the edit field, and you need to left arrow to begin.
Cheers Kevin.
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Sameer via Jfw
Sent: November-13-15 9:39 AM
To: JAWS Windows List 
Cc: Sameer 
Subject: JAWS not reading cell contents in Excel


Dear List Friends,

I am using JAWS 16 with MS Office 2010 & Windows 7 as the OS.

Whenever I press F2 to enter a cell in Excel & try to read the cell contents 
with the arrow keys, JAWS says “Blank, Blank” instead of the cell contents. 
My sighted colleagues are able to read the cell contents.

I have confirmed that the Excel file is maximised. I have tried closing & 
reopening the Excel file but without any change in JAWS behaviour.

Request your kind assistance in resolving the above problem.

Thanking all in advance for any & all assistance.

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India
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RE: Chrome questions

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

David.

I find chrome challenging when filling out forms within the context of a web
page.  I have found that I can fill in the forms okay but navigating is not
consistent.  For example in entering my social security number there is a 3
part field.  I simply type my social and it automatically moves me to the
next field when appropriate Ie. xxx xx . (3 characters then 2 then 4 for
the social.  However if I want to go back and check that its entered
correctly the usual navigation doesn't work well and I have to use a
combination of techniques to get the information within each form box of
that group. 

Any suggestions for form fields within web pages and in a related question
as it relates to form fields in pdf documents.

Thanks.
Greg


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David Moore
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 8:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: David Moore
Subject: Re: Chrome questions

Hi there,
This is David Moore, the original poster concerning Chrome. I do not believe

there is a list to discuss Chrome, How ever, I have used it a lot and can 
answer your questions. Here is my info.
email:
jesusloves1...@gmail.com
Skype ID:
david.moore3507
Here is the answer to your help questions. If you down arrow through the 
Chrome menu, you will hear a help and about option just below settings. When

you press enter on that, the Help opens up in a web page that is very easy 
to navigate. You don't need an Internet connection to use this Web Page. It 
just open's up in your browser, but you are not sending info over the 
Internet. As you navigate this web page, there are links for many topics 
that you want to know about. For example, there is a link that says key 
commands. If you press enter on that link, you will get all of the key 
commands for Chrome. For JAWS settings, You do not need specific settings 
made to work in Chrome. The one vertical Chrome menu has all that you need. 
Just press right arrow on bookmarks, and you on your book marks. All the 
same navigation key commands work just as they do in Firefox. Please contact

me by email, or request me on Skype and we can talk all about it. Also, when

I finish with working with Chrome and have answered all questions, I will do

a tutorial on Chrome. Take care.


-Original Message- 
From: Bob Moore via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 10:33 AM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Bob Moore
Subject: Chrome questions

With all the talk about Chrome I thought I would give it a try.  I have just
downloaded it and right off the bat questions started jumping  up in mine
mind.  Everything from Jaws setting to how to use the help in Chrome, so
many questions I thought that a Chrome email list might be the best place
for answers, is there such a list and if so what is the address?  Thanks for
any help.


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RE: using chrome

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

When the screen pops up for save or open you need to press alt + N and then
if for some reason you want to just save it you can then open it from your
downloads by pressing cntl + J.


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Clark
via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 10:43 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dennis Clark
Subject: Re: using chrome

Hello Adrian,
You mentioned that you are using IE 11. One of our computers has IE 11, and 
when I attempted to download a file, I couldn't figure out how to do it. A 
screen popped up which asked if I wanted to open or save the file, but I 
couldn't find a place to activate either of these options. There was a link 
for more information and a close button. Are there some settings I need to 
change?
Thanks Adrian, or anyone else with IE 11 experience.

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt via Jfw" 
To: "The Jaws for Windows support list." 
Cc: "Adrian Spratt" 
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: using chrome


> Dennis,
>
> I downloaded google Chrome and tested
> www.amc.com
> which you mention. As you say, there's no link or edit field related to 
> "sign in," and the JAWS cursor verbalizes only a graphic.
>
> No question, Chrome works very fast and brings up a clean interface, but 
> it isn't fully accessible, as previously claimed. IE11 will remain my 
> default browser until someone demonstrates how to overcome these drawbacks

> or Google fixes them. I do recall that someone on this list explained why 
> the JAWS cursor doesn't work well with Firefox, and I also recall there's 
> a complicated fix, so the JAWS cursor problem may be a function of 
> changing technology with which FS needs to catch up.
>
> I had difficulty finding the right download link for my Windows 7, 64-bit 
> machine. For anyone interested, here's the right link:
> http://www.downloadx64.com/google-chrome-64-bit/
>
> Now that I've installed Chrome, every time I open it, it tells me it isn't

> my default, but it moves on too fast for me even to locate a checkbox or 
> other field in the event I one day do want it to be my default.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of dennis via 
> Jfw
> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:29 AM
> To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
> Cc: dennis
> Subject: Re: using chrome
>
> i should have said... this is only in chrome...
>
> On 11/5/2015 10:25 AM, Bissett, Tom via Jfw wrote:
>> It is not that the jaws cursor doesn't work but rather with the changes 
>> in operating systems and the way in which jaws works there is little for 
>> the jaws cursor to see.  Does your jaws cursor read whats on the desktop?

>> If so it is not broken.
>> Tom Bisset
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of dennis via 
>> Jfw
>> Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 11:00 AM
>> To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
>> Cc: dennis
>> Subject: using chrome
>>
>> another thing i have just noticed and its in jaws 16 and 17, the jaws 
>> curcer does not work. don't know if there is a fix for this or not.
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RE: Google Chrome is totally accessible

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

I'm using JAWS 14 and win 7.  Does Chrome work well with 14? -Original
Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of ratshtron via
Jfw
Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 7:47 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: ratshtron
Subject: Re: Google Chrome is totally accessible

its great under windows 7 32 bit. i kept having trouble with firefox 
from the last update with jaws so i switched. internet explorer got 
very sluggish with jaws so i started using firefox but now google 
crome is much better with jaws.


Legend has it that on Thursday 11/5/2015 09:31 AM, Marshall Scott via Jfw
said:

>How accessible is Chrome under Windows 7?
>Thanks,
>Marshall
>
> > On Nov 5, 2015, at 2:49 AM, David Moore via Jfw 
>  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all.
> > I have been experimenting with Google Chrome Browser, and I have 
> found that it is very accessible and easy to use. More than that, I 
> can open the same web site in half the time as with IE or Firefox. 
> It never crashes, and it is more stable than any other browser. It 
> is the best browser when it comes to streaming videos and other 
> media by far. The video never pauses for example. In IE, the same 
> video pauses a few times for a few seconds. Also, Google Chrome is 
> the easiest browser to use. Yes, I am not kidding. Simply press 
> enter on the browser, and the home page opens. I have mine set to 
> Google of course. Now, just press alt and the screen reader will 
> say chrome button. If you press down arrow, every setting and menu 
> you will ever need is in that one vertical column. The history, 
> delete history, book marks, are all in that one vertical menu just 
> by pressing the alt key on the home page. All navigation JAWS short 
> cut keys work in Google Chrome. I have not found anything yet that is n
>  ot
> > accessible. Also, every JAWS key command works in Chrome just 
> like in IE. You can just press alt + D for the address bar for 
> example. I will continue to play around with Google Chrome a little 
> more, and I will be ready to do an Audio tutorial for you guys. You 
> will not believe just how much better Google Chrome is over any 
> other browser. You will hear it with your own ears when I send you 
> the tutorial probably by Friday. I know some of you will use Chrome 
> as your default browser. God bless and have a great night. Talk to 
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Utube - Music vault.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Recently when listening to tracks on music vault I am no longer able to
access the tracking or volume component of the site.  Previously, I could
arrow down to the track line where it indicates the time played and time
remaining and I could enter on this and then arrow right or left to go
forward or back within the playback.  Similarly, I could go to the volume
component and enter on it to arrow up or down the volume of the site's
playback independent from the jaws volume or the computer's volume.  

 

Recently I cannot access this any more and I'm wondering if there is a jaws
issue or other that might gain me access to these very useful components of
the site.  

 

Any helpful suggestions would be greatfully received.

 

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RE: Direct link to download page for today's JAWS 16 update

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Try alt + n to get to the dialog box. 
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of j Bron via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 10:04 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: j Bron
Subject: RE: Direct link to download page for today's JAWS 16 update

I just tried downloading.  I selected the proper 32 bit download and pressed 
enter.  I was asked if I wanted to run or save download but there was no place 
to enter my decision.  What am I doing wrong?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ford via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2015 12:25 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Tim Ford
Subject: Direct link to download page for today's JAWS 16 update

This link is the main download page, so you need to pick the link for either 32 
or 64 bit versions.  The download is version 16.0.4463.
http://www.freedomscientific.com/Downloads/JAWS

And here is what the web page says about the new update:


Enhancements in JAWS 16.0.4463 (October 2015)

The following is a list of improvements made between the JAWS 16 July 2015 
release and the October 2015 update.


list of 16 items
• Resolved reported issues where JAWS would not read the Start menu after 
upgrading to Windows 10.
• Improved JAWS performance with the Windows 10 Search feature which gains 
focus when the WINDOWS Key is pressed to open the Start menu.
• Improved how JAWS works with the Microsoft Dynamics CRM addin for Outlook.
• Addressed a customer reported issue where input fields inside a data table 
were being announced twice when navigated to using TAB in Firefox.
• Resolved a reported issue where JAWS was not detecting changes in content on 
certain web pages in Chrome unless INSERT+ESC was pressed first.
• Resolved an issue with live regions not being automatically read in Chrome.
• Resolved issues with the Time Search and Reuters Top News Stories Research It 
lookup sources not displaying results as expected.
• When performing a Say All in Microsoft Word, addressed a customer reported 
issue where JAWS would continuously read the same line in certain documents.
• In Excel 2013, addressed an issue where JAWS would not read as expected and 
Excel would appear to become unresponsive after moving a row.
• Addressed issues related to sluggishness in Excel.
• The scripts for Microsoft Office 2016 are now properly named so they load as 
expected with JAWS 16.
• This release includes updated drivers from Eurobraille to enable JAWS to work 
with the Esytime display.
• Resolved a customer reported issue where JAWS remote authorization was not 
working as expected when using a timed license.
• Resolved multiple issues using reports received through the Error Reporting 
feature in JAWS.
• Addressed an issue with the Spanish version of JAWS where the wrong Braille 
table was being used after updating, or the Startup Wizard was not completed
after a full install.
• Addressed issues with JAWS not properly reading Hebrew, even when Windows is 
properly configured to display Hebrew text.
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RE: Accessible education university in US

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Pablo.

Each university has a specific department that coordinates all ADA related
issues between faculty, staff and student body.  You need to ask for the
contact information of this specific department and engage of them directly.
Certainly, as you have experienced, if you don't take the initiative no one
else will.  The lesson to be learned here is not to wait for anyone to call
you back rather, follow up with them based on a time line that you deem
acceptable.

Best of success... 






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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 3:41 PM
To: techt...@groups.io
Cc: Pablo Morales; blindt...@groups.io; jaws-users-l...@jaws-users.com; 'The
Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Accessible education university in US

Hi all,

I am looking for a university where I can do online classes for Human
Resources Business administration and management in the US . I have been in
contact by phone with several universities but when I ask them about the
accessibility on their web sites, or accessibility in the books that I need
to buy for each class, then their answers ends. I have been in contact with
17 different universities online, and all of them said that the
accessibility department will call me back, but I have been waiting more
than one year for those calls.

Guys, are you studying in Universities online?

Does anybody know a university, where their online classes are accessible?

And also the books are accessible?

My wife is low vision, and she had a lot of accessibility problems in the
university where she was studying . I am totally blind, and I have no way to
study if I found a platform not accessible, or books not accessible either.

Does anybody here know system better, what I can do if I need to continue my
education after I lost my vision?

What are the accessible resources today?

Thanks for all,

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RE: 2 browsers & 2 different pages. Re: netFlix search box

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

I've worked with Chrome as Netflix told me that this is a more compatible
browser.  I used it and all the titles were there...no numbers.

Chrome needs a companion piece with it much like IE with silverlite.  Its
called Wideveign I think and you have to type something to do with
Chrome/components in the navigation bar.  Sorry I can't remember exactly...

an Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 2:23 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar
Subject: 2 browsers & 2 different pages. Re: netFlix search box

Hello again,

I posted the message that I had found the NetFlix search box using IE11.

Now that I used FireFox, the results are different.

With Ie11 I got the Canadian NetFlix page ...netflix.com.ca.
while FireFox brings up what must be the US site NetFlix.com.

With IE11 I always have to sign in and then go to the Browse page to 
find the search box.


With FireFox, I am signed in and the navigation letter "e" finds the 
search edit box.

Another problem, with the US site, is that all the titles are numbers. 
Someone mentioned this and now I know what they were talkingabout.

Things are not right with NetFlix. I communicated this to the the 
NetFlix tech support and they responded that I should call the help 
line. This I had done and they did not grasp the problem that we have 
using a screen reader.

Peter T.

 Original Message 
Subject:Re: netFlix search box
Date:   Fri, 09 Oct 2015 15:58:53 -0400
From:   Peter Tesar via Jfw <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
Reply-To:   The Jaws for Windows support list. <jfw@lists.the-jdh.com>
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
CC: Peter Tesar <pte...@ca.inter.net>



Hello List,

I found the NetFlix search box.
It is on the Browse page.

Using the JAWS virtual viewer, one line has the word:
"search"
This is not an object that you can tab to like a link.

The line below has:
unlabeled button

When I left click on the right side of the word "search", the edit box
is announced. Then turn on the form mode, type the title, actor etc.
Then tab to and select the unlabeled button.

Thanks for suggesting the browse page.

Peter T.

On 2015-10-09 11:26 AM, Gennie Eachus via Jfw wrote:
> I am using Netflix with IE11. It's working better than it used to. I can
> find the search box now. My biggest problem now is removing DVDS from my
> Cue. If you email off list, I will try to explain. Can't right now because
I
> will need to be on the site to go through the steps.
> geac...@charter.net
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
> via Jfw
> Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 7:11 AM
> To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
> Cc: Peter Tesar <pte...@ca.inter.net>
> Subject: Re: jaws IE11 and netflix.
>
> Hello,
>
> I think that it is a graphics issue. I have used both IE11 and Firefoxand
> the changes made last year, have been worse for screen reader users.
>
> I'm using the Canadian NetFlix site. Last year they updated the web site
and
> I lost access to the search field. It used to be an edit field that JAWS
> could find, and now it is an icon that JAWS cannot find.
>
> Do the American users of NetFlix have the same problem searching for a
> title? Is there a way around.
>
> Peter T.
>
> On 2015-10-08 10:48 PM, Greg Nickel via Jfw wrote:
>> Can anyone tell me the fix for the following?
>>
>>
>>
>> I recently uninstalled IE11 reverting back to 10 then when I
>> experienced problems with how jaws was interacting with 10 I
>> reinstalled 11.  It seems that on Netflix in particular the titles of
>> selections as links are now being read as numbers and not the written
> title.
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>>
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RE: jaws IE11 and netflix.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Okay...so I did a system restore after dealing with tech and installing the
silverlite and having no good effect.  The system restore took me back to
before I did the uninstall and reinstall of IE10/11.  Always a good thing to
keep in your back pocket for any inexplicable problems that pop up.


As far as the search box, I noted this change too and you have to click on a
link first to browse so look for a link that will take you to the search
box. -Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Peter Tesar
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 5:11 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Peter Tesar
Subject: Re: jaws IE11 and netflix.

Hello,

I think that it is a graphics issue. I have used both IE11 and 
Firefoxand the changes made last year, have been worse for screen reader 
users.

I'm using the Canadian NetFlix site. Last year they updated the web site 
and I lost access to the search field. It used to be an edit field that 
JAWS could find, and now it is an icon that JAWS cannot find.

Do the American users of NetFlix have the same problem searching for a 
title? Is there a way around.

Peter T.

On 2015-10-08 10:48 PM, Greg Nickel via Jfw wrote:
> Can anyone tell me the fix for the following?
>
>   
>
> I recently uninstalled IE11 reverting back to 10 then when I experienced
> problems with how jaws was interacting with 10 I reinstalled 11.  It seems
> that on Netflix in particular the titles of selections as links are now
> being read as numbers and not the written title.
>
>   
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>   
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RE: key stroke for desk top

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Windows D or windows M.


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Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 5:22 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Jane Withers
Subject: key stroke for desk top

I believe I have seen the keystroke for getting to desk top but cannot find
it now. When I minimize, I get start menu first and then desk top, and wish
to go straight to desk top. Does anybody know what this shortcut is?

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RE: balarc advisor:

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

It builds a profile of your installed software, drivers etc.  I used it to
find a missing driver a while ago.  I remember it being a simple to use
effective tool.



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Jfw
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 10:46 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Tom Behler
Subject: RE: balarc advisor:

What's Balarc Advisor?

Dr.  Tom Behler from Michigan


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Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 1:07 PM
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Cc: Michael Mote
Subject: Re: balarc advisor:

Yes it works very well with jaws

Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 8, 2015, at 11:40 AM, Kenny via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:
 
 Hi does balarc advisor work with windows 10? I was going to download it
and use it to write down the windows 10 product key.
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RE: reading objects

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Try this.

Control-shift-o creates a JAWS list of the objects.  Pressing enter on an
item in the list takes you to it.  

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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:47 AM
To: jfw
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: reading objects

I'm testing a scanning software, so my question is this.

After scanning the document, it brings it up in word, I see all the text on
the screen, but it says the document has 27 objects. I know how to list the
objects but how do I read the content?I'm down arrowing and nothing is
said besides blank.

I'm using the 30 day abby fine reader btw.

Thank you.

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RE: reading objects

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After you've selected the item shift F10 to context then select edit text
If there is any text there then you should be able to read it otherwise the
objects most likely are pictures of text or other objects within that
context.



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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:57 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: RE: reading objects

I did that. When I pressed enter on it, it just said it was selected and
nothing else.
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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:51 AM
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Subject: RE: reading objects

Try this.

Control-shift-o creates a JAWS list of the objects.  Pressing enter on an
item in the list takes you to it.  

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Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2015 11:47 AM
To: jfw
Cc: Kimsan
Subject: reading objects

I'm testing a scanning software, so my question is this.

After scanning the document, it brings it up in word, I see all the text on
the screen, but it says the document has 27 objects. I know how to list the
objects but how do I read the content?I'm down arrowing and nothing is
said besides blank.

I'm using the 30 day abby fine reader btw.

Thank you.

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go to cels in excel.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Hi all.

 

I'm not sure that this is a JAWS question or not but your help is
appreciated either way.

 

In excel 2010 I'd like to be able to identify cells that are Obscured
widen or cells that are not formulated correctly and show some kind of
error message.  More or less I'd like to be able to proof the sheet before
sending.  

 

Any thoughts on how to do this efficiently?

 

Thanks.

Greg

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RE: PDF documents

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

How does 16 do with the conversion of graphics or pictures in a pdf?  I have
been holding back from updating to 16 to let the bugs get worked out but
converting pdf's to word docs is a fairly useful tool especially if it does
it as accurately as you say.
because 

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:20 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: PDF documents

Yeah, using Win7 and J16 latest build.  The pDF copied and pasted into
Word2010 readily.  It is now a Word doc and reads as though it were written
in Word2010.  Truly I['m a little blown away for the quality.  Perhaps this
one conversion was a fluke.  For now I'm hopeful.

Andre
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(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:14 AM
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Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: PDF documents

No, I remember there were paragraph marks after every line.  Of course, that
was years ago, prior to AR 3.0.  As for the image problem, that can be a
bear, depending upon the quality you have to work with.  I have an old
Kenwood product manual that still looks strange, but is now useable, thanks
to 16.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:57 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: PDF documents

Ted, I'm not sure what you mean by it not being the most attractive document
around.  The PDF Copied and pasted into Word is surprisingly clean and reads
with no errors.  Or are you talking about an image being converted into
text.  That is often a mess as you say.
Andre

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(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: PDF documents

Andre's way is an oldie but a goody. I used it back before AR was
accessible; but Bill is right, it won't do a thing for an image file.  Even
when it works, it's not the most attractive document around.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: PDF documents

That's not going to work in this case, because all she is getting in the
document are graphics. She may need to convert the document with OCR
software such as OpenBook. she can also use the services of RoboBraille if
she can upload the document.

I'll include the link for her here.

http://robobraille.org/

Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: PDF documents


 Another possible way.  I did this yesterday.  Opened a 245 page PDF.  
 Then

 I
 selected all using control-A.  Then copied and pasted directly into a 
 blank Word doc.  Then saved the Word Doc under the book title name.  
 Now it opens in Word remarkably fast and reads very well.  It might be 
 searchable.
 Hope
 this helps.

 I use latest J16, Office and Word 2010 on my I5 Dell laptop.

 Best

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 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann 
 Byrne via Jfw
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:57 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Ann Byrne
 Subject: Re: PDF documents

 If you have JAWS 16, have it convert the document for you.  Press 
 insert-spacebar, then the letter o for optical character recognition, 
 then d for document, and let it run.  When JAWS has finished, the 
 document is not only readable, but it can be copied and saved into 
 another form, such as Word or text.

 good luck!
 At 08:30 PM 7/15/2015, you wrote:
My office has a program that is supposed to convert pdf documents to 
searchable text.  The issue is that my sighted  colleague said that 
she could do a search of this one large document and find different 
words in
 it.
However JAWS just read graphic Graphic and gave me some numbers of 
the graphics.  I'm wondering what is happening here, does anyone have 
any
 ideas?
Thanks!

Bar




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RE: PDF documents

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Very interesting...Thanks again.
Greg

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 5:25 PM
To: Greg Nickel via Jfw
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: PDF documents

You are welcome. I intended for that to go off list; hope this does.

I forgot to tell you that you lay your forefinger in the stimulator array 
and use your right hand to maneuver the camera. There are two adjusting 
knobs just above the stimulator array, the lower  to adjust the thickness or

thinness of the material and the upper one to adjust the intensity of the 
vibrations. In the back of it, there is a switch to reverse background and 
image.


Remember, life is what you make it,

Carolyn

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To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 6:29 PM
Subject: RE: PDF documents


 Thanks Carolyn.  I'll check it out.


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 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn 
 Arnold
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 3:17 PM
 To: Greg Nickel via Jfw
 Cc: Carolyn Arnold
 Subject: Re: PDF documents

 Greg, Optacon stands for optical to tacticle converter. I use the Optacon
 R1D. It is an electronic device which is about the size of a text book. In
 back of the machine is either a charger cord or just an electrical cord, 
 if
 you have one without batteries. The machine is encased in a leather case
 that snaps open and shut.

 In front of it, there is a cable on it that feels sort of like a heavy 
 duty
 headset cable. At the end of this approximately 18
 inch long cable is a camera that is about the size of a pocket knife. 
 There
 is a little knob at the top of the camera, so that the user can adjust it 
 to

 accommodate print size.

 Inside the main body of the Optacon toward the right side, as the device
 faces you, there is a sort of metallic area that is about maybe an inch
 across by two inches in length. This is called the stimulator array, and 
 it
 contains 144 pins in six rows of 24pens. These
 pins vibrate, as the shutter photographs the character where the camera is
 place. So the user has a vibrating image of a printed letter, line, as in 
 a
 9 x 12 room. In such a situation, different maneuvering of the camera is
 required rather than reading across a straight line of printed material.

 The device is a life saver for reading items like utility bills, getting
 slip in window envelope correctly, checking to see if a pen writes, then
 checking signature, checking to see the number on a check, and I could go 
 on
 and on.

 The Optacon is 70's technology. There is an Optacon Users' group:

 optaco...@freelists.org

 It is a good idea to place maybe a telephone book across a page that maybe
 you printed from the computer, so that you would be familiar with the
 material to start to learn to read. If you don't know the print alphabet,
 you could type it on the computer, one line in caps and one not in caps, 
 as
 well as a line with numbers and then punctuations, followed by writing 
 what
 the punctuation mark represents. If you know print, of course, that will
 make
 it easier. It takes some practice, which can be taxing to build the skill
 needed to use the Optacon, but it is well worth the energy investment.

 I will also give you information to where you can look into buying one, 
 and
 the man will answer any questions. He is very well thought of by Optacon
 users. His name is Richard Oehm.

 oehme...@samobile.net

 Richard Oehm

 Oehm Electronics

 2194C Galveston Avenue

 San Jose, California 95122-3617

 Telephone:  (408) 971-6250

 Fax:  (408) 271-9188



 Feel free to contact me further in this regard, and I would encourage you 
 to

 join the Optacon Users' list, which, by the way, has been very quiet 
 lately.

 Perhaps you could scan some of the archives.



 Remember, life is what you make it,

 Carolyn

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 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 4:45 PM
 Subject: RE: PDF documents


 Hi Carolyn

 Can you tell me more about the Opticon and how it works for you?  Happy 
 to
 chat off forum at greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com




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 Arnold
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:14 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Carolyn Arnold
 Subject: Re: PDF documents

 With an Optacon, I can read floor plans.

 Remember, life is what you make it,

 Carolyn

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 Sent

RE: PDF documents

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Can you tell me if JAWS 16converts the pictures into text boxes on the Word
doc?  

On the idea of conveying a picture other than visually, I could see a
tactile display coming in handy is for technical drawings like architectural
or 
otherwise that are line based drawings.  

I do a lot of work with architectural and for now I have someone draw over
the lines with a vinyl tactile marking tube.  Any other ideas that might be
better? 
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(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:18 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: PDF documents

When you come down to it, how do you read a picture anyway?  Sure, you can
extract text, but how do you read, for example,  a photograph?  Place a
center fold on a scanner, and a male synth will emit a deep heart-felt sigh!
All kidding aside, how could a screen reader convey meaningful information.
I suppose a tactile display might be able to do it two-dimensionally.

Ted

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via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 2:19 PM
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Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: PDF documents

I'm told the resulting Word doc is an exact replica of the original PDF
including graphics and images, photos etc.  However only the text of the
document is visible to screenreaders.  Wish graphics and images were
readable by Jaws but they are not.
I've heard there is soon to be released a device called something like
BumpPad It's said to be a tactile I-Pad type device made for blind people.
I don't know who makes it or when it will be released.  It was described as
being able to read graphs and possibly images.  Don't know any more than
that.  I will for sure be looking for it when it hits the market.

Andre
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via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Greg Nickel
Subject: RE: PDF documents

How does 16 do with the conversion of graphics or pictures in a pdf?  I have
been holding back from updating to 16 to let the bugs get worked out but
converting pdf's to word docs is a fairly useful tool especially if it does
it as accurately as you say.
because 

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via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:20 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: PDF documents

Yeah, using Win7 and J16 latest build.  The pDF copied and pasted into
Word2010 readily.  It is now a Word doc and reads as though it were written
in Word2010.  Truly I['m a little blown away for the quality.  Perhaps this
one conversion was a fluke.  For now I'm hopeful.

Andre
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(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: PDF documents

No, I remember there were paragraph marks after every line.  Of course, that
was years ago, prior to AR 3.0.  As for the image problem, that can be a
bear, depending upon the quality you have to work with.  I have an old
Kenwood product manual that still looks strange, but is now useable, thanks
to 16.

Ted

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via Jfw
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:57 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: PDF documents

Ted, I'm not sure what you mean by it not being the most attractive document
around.  The PDF Copied and pasted into Word is surprisingly clean and reads
with no errors.  Or are you talking about an image being converted into
text.  That is often a mess as you say.
Andre

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(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: PDF documents

Andre's way is an oldie but a goody. I used it back before AR was
accessible; but Bill is right, it won't do a thing for an image file.  Even
when it works, it's not the most attractive document around.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: PDF documents

That's not going to work in this case, because all she is getting in the
document are graphics. She may need to convert the document with OCR
software such as OpenBook. she can also use the services of RoboBraille if
she can upload the document.

I'll include the link for her here.

http://robobraille.org/

Bill

RE: PDF documents

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Thanks guys.  Sounds like updating would be worthwhile.



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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:19 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: PDF documents

I'm told the resulting Word doc is an exact replica of the original PDF
including graphics and images, photos etc.  However only the text of the
document is visible to screenreaders.  Wish graphics and images were
readable by Jaws but they are not.
I've heard there is soon to be released a device called something like
BumpPad It's said to be a tactile I-Pad type device made for blind people.
I don't know who makes it or when it will be released.  It was described as
being able to read graphs and possibly images.  Don't know any more than
that.  I will for sure be looking for it when it hits the market.

Andre
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:31 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Greg Nickel
Subject: RE: PDF documents

How does 16 do with the conversion of graphics or pictures in a pdf?  I have
been holding back from updating to 16 to let the bugs get worked out but
converting pdf's to word docs is a fairly useful tool especially if it does
it as accurately as you say.
because 

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via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:20 AM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: PDF documents

Yeah, using Win7 and J16 latest build.  The pDF copied and pasted into
Word2010 readily.  It is now a Word doc and reads as though it were written
in Word2010.  Truly I['m a little blown away for the quality.  Perhaps this
one conversion was a fluke.  For now I'm hopeful.

Andre
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:14 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: PDF documents

No, I remember there were paragraph marks after every line.  Of course, that
was years ago, prior to AR 3.0.  As for the image problem, that can be a
bear, depending upon the quality you have to work with.  I have an old
Kenwood product manual that still looks strange, but is now useable, thanks
to 16.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre Jarreau
via Jfw
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:57 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Andre Jarreau
Subject: RE: PDF documents

Ted, I'm not sure what you mean by it not being the most attractive document
around.  The PDF Copied and pasted into Word is surprisingly clean and reads
with no errors.  Or are you talking about an image being converted into
text.  That is often a mess as you say.
Andre

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:30 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
Subject: RE: PDF documents

Andre's way is an oldie but a goody. I used it back before AR was
accessible; but Bill is right, it won't do a thing for an image file.  Even
when it works, it's not the most attractive document around.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Bill White via
Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 10:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Bill White
Subject: Re: PDF documents

That's not going to work in this case, because all she is getting in the
document are graphics. She may need to convert the document with OCR
software such as OpenBook. she can also use the services of RoboBraille if
she can upload the document.

I'll include the link for her here.

http://robobraille.org/

Bill White billwhite92...@dslextreme.com
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From: Andre Jarreau via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Andre Jarreau andre.jarr...@earthlink.net
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:25 PM
Subject: RE: PDF documents


 Another possible way.  I did this yesterday.  Opened a 245 page PDF.  
 Then

 I
 selected all using control-A.  Then copied and pasted directly into a 
 blank Word doc.  Then saved the Word Doc under the book title name.  
 Now it opens in Word remarkably fast and reads very well.  It might be 
 searchable.
 Hope
 this helps.

 I use latest J16, Office and Word 2010 on my I5 Dell laptop.

 Best

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann 
 Byrne via Jfw
 Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:57 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Ann Byrne
 Subject: Re: PDF documents

 If you have JAWS 16, have it convert the document for you.  Press 
 insert

RE: PDF documents

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Hi Carolyn 

Can you tell me more about the Opticon and how it works for you?  Happy to
chat off forum at greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com




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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:14 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: PDF documents

With an Optacon, I can read floor plans.

Remember, life is what you make it,

Carolyn

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From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 3:24 PM
Subject: RE: PDF documents


 Can you tell me if JAWS 16converts the pictures into text boxes on the 
 Word
 doc?

 On the idea of conveying a picture other than visually, I could see a
 tactile display coming in handy is for technical drawings like 
 architectural
 or
 otherwise that are line based drawings.

 I do a lot of work with architectural and for now I have someone draw over
 the lines with a vinyl tactile marking tube.  Any other ideas that might 
 be
 better?
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
 (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:18 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 Subject: RE: PDF documents

 When you come down to it, how do you read a picture anyway?  Sure, you can
 extract text, but how do you read, for example,  a photograph?  Place a
 center fold on a scanner, and a male synth will emit a deep heart-felt 
 sigh!
 All kidding aside, how could a screen reader convey meaningful 
 information.
 I suppose a tactile display might be able to do it two-dimensionally.

 Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre 
 Jarreau
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 2:19 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Andre Jarreau
 Subject: RE: PDF documents

 I'm told the resulting Word doc is an exact replica of the original PDF
 including graphics and images, photos etc.  However only the text of the
 document is visible to screenreaders.  Wish graphics and images were
 readable by Jaws but they are not.
 I've heard there is soon to be released a device called something like
 BumpPad It's said to be a tactile I-Pad type device made for blind people.
 I don't know who makes it or when it will be released.  It was described 
 as
 being able to read graphs and possibly images.  Don't know any more than
 that.  I will for sure be looking for it when it hits the market.

 Andre
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 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:31 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Greg Nickel
 Subject: RE: PDF documents

 How does 16 do with the conversion of graphics or pictures in a pdf?  I 
 have
 been holding back from updating to 16 to let the bugs get worked out but
 converting pdf's to word docs is a fairly useful tool especially if it 
 does
 it as accurately as you say.
 because

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 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre 
 Jarreau
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:20 AM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Andre Jarreau
 Subject: RE: PDF documents

 Yeah, using Win7 and J16 latest build.  The pDF copied and pasted into
 Word2010 readily.  It is now a Word doc and reads as though it were 
 written
 in Word2010.  Truly I['m a little blown away for the quality.  Perhaps 
 this
 one conversion was a fluke.  For now I'm hopeful.

 Andre
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
 (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 10:14 AM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 Subject: RE: PDF documents

 No, I remember there were paragraph marks after every line.  Of course, 
 that
 was years ago, prior to AR 3.0.  As for the image problem, that can be a
 bear, depending upon the quality you have to work with.  I have an old
 Kenwood product manual that still looks strange, but is now useable, 
 thanks
 to 16.

 Ted

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 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre 
 Jarreau
 via Jfw
 Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 4:57 PM
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Cc: Andre Jarreau
 Subject: RE: PDF documents

 Ted, I'm not sure what you mean by it not being the most attractive 
 document
 around.  The PDF Copied and pasted into Word is surprisingly clean and 
 reads
 with no errors.  Or are you talking about an image being converted into
 text.  That is often a mess as you say.
 Andre

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 (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
 Sent: Monday, July 20, 2015 12:30 PM
 To: The Jaws

RE: PDF documents

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Thanks Carolyn.  I'll check it out.


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 3:17 PM
To: Greg Nickel via Jfw
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: PDF documents

Greg, Optacon stands for optical to tacticle converter. I use the Optacon
R1D. It is an electronic device which is about the size of a text book. In 
back of the machine is either a charger cord or just an electrical cord, if 
you have one without batteries. The machine is encased in a leather case 
that snaps open and shut.

In front of it, there is a cable on it that feels sort of like a heavy duty 
headset cable. At the end of this approximately 18
inch long cable is a camera that is about the size of a pocket knife. There
is a little knob at the top of the camera, so that the user can adjust it to

accommodate print size.

Inside the main body of the Optacon toward the right side, as the device
faces you, there is a sort of metallic area that is about maybe an inch
across by two inches in length. This is called the stimulator array, and it 
contains 144 pins in six rows of 24pens. These
pins vibrate, as the shutter photographs the character where the camera is
place. So the user has a vibrating image of a printed letter, line, as in a
9 x 12 room. In such a situation, different maneuvering of the camera is 
required rather than reading across a straight line of printed material.

The device is a life saver for reading items like utility bills, getting
slip in window envelope correctly, checking to see if a pen writes, then
checking signature, checking to see the number on a check, and I could go on
and on.

The Optacon is 70's technology. There is an Optacon Users' group:

optaco...@freelists.org

It is a good idea to place maybe a telephone book across a page that maybe
you printed from the computer, so that you would be familiar with the
material to start to learn to read. If you don't know the print alphabet,
you could type it on the computer, one line in caps and one not in caps, as 
well as a line with numbers and then punctuations, followed by writing what 
the punctuation mark represents. If you know print, of course, that will 
make
it easier. It takes some practice, which can be taxing to build the skill
needed to use the Optacon, but it is well worth the energy investment.

I will also give you information to where you can look into buying one, and
the man will answer any questions. He is very well thought of by Optacon
users. His name is Richard Oehm.

oehme...@samobile.net

Richard Oehm

Oehm Electronics

2194C Galveston Avenue

San Jose, California 95122-3617

Telephone:  (408) 971-6250

Fax:  (408) 271-9188



Feel free to contact me further in this regard, and I would encourage you to

join the Optacon Users' list, which, by the way, has been very quiet lately.

Perhaps you could scan some of the archives.



Remember, life is what you make it,

Carolyn

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From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 4:45 PM
Subject: RE: PDF documents


 Hi Carolyn

 Can you tell me more about the Opticon and how it works for you?  Happy to
 chat off forum at greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com




 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn
 Arnold
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:14 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Carolyn Arnold
 Subject: Re: PDF documents

 With an Optacon, I can read floor plans.

 Remember, life is what you make it,

 Carolyn

 - Original Message - 
 From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 3:24 PM
 Subject: RE: PDF documents


 Can you tell me if JAWS 16converts the pictures into text boxes on the
 Word
 doc?

 On the idea of conveying a picture other than visually, I could see a
 tactile display coming in handy is for technical drawings like
 architectural
 or
 otherwise that are line based drawings.

 I do a lot of work with architectural and for now I have someone draw
 over
 the lines with a vinyl tactile marking tube.  Any other ideas that might
 be
 better?
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
 (CHFS DMS) via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:18 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)
 Subject: RE: PDF documents

 When you come down to it, how do you read a picture anyway?  Sure, you
 can
 extract text, but how do you read, for example,  a photograph?  Place a
 center fold on a scanner, and a male synth will emit a deep heart-felt
 sigh!
 All kidding aside, how could a screen reader convey meaningful
 information.
 I suppose a tactile

RE: how do I get to the address field when using the internet?

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

F4 takes you there directly.

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Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 2:12 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: David Ingram
Subject: how do I get to the address field when using the internet?

Hi, list members, I’m sometimes unsure which key strokes that I should use when 
wanting to go to the address field while using any browser.  If I’m not 
mistaken I can use f6 twice then I would hear address and search field.  I hope 
that this is correct.  P.S.  I also notice that when I use web mail and I want 
to make sure that the addresses in my known spam folder go to the blocked 
senders list how can I make sure that this is done?  I have not been able to 
select these messages unless I select them one at a time if I’m correct.  Thank 
you for any information that you might have.

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RE: short cut key to identify cursor location in MSWord

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Gives a couple ways to look at the data...Thanks again.
Greg

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:45 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: short cut key to identify cursor location in MSWord

Interesting, Gregg. Bill is right too, and his keys might be more 
satisfactory. Insert Delete gives you line number and column number. I 
can't figure if column is for space. I just wrote a couple of lines with a 
skip, and I got line three, column 90. The Alt Delete gives you inches. The 
Insert Delete gives the information more like it used to do in Old 
WordPerfect 5.1. Probably a lot of yall are young enough never to have used 
it, but we thought it was hot stuff back in the 90's.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:20 PM
Subject: short cut key to identify cursor location in MSWord


 Anyone know if there is a shortcut key to vocalize your position in a line
 in word?  When you tab it identifies where you are with the tab, Ie., 
 1.50
 etc.  How about an SC key combination that will tell you where you are on
 the line?



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[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Anyone know if there is a shortcut key to vocalize your position in a line
in word?  When you tab it identifies where you are with the tab, Ie., 1.50
etc.  How about an SC key combination that will tell you where you are on
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RE: short cut key to identify cursor location in MSWord

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Thx.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Carolyn Arnold
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 4:38 PM
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Cc: Carolyn Arnold
Subject: Re: short cut key to identify cursor location in MSWord

Gregg, and I checked before answering, with Office 2010, it is, as it was 
with 2003, Alt Delete, and it will tell you where you are on the page and on

the line. In other words, something like one inch from top, 2.88 from left.

GIFT (God is forever true),

Carolyn

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To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 7:20 PM
Subject: short cut key to identify cursor location in MSWord


 Anyone know if there is a shortcut key to vocalize your position in a line
 in word?  When you tab it identifies where you are with the tab, Ie., 
 1.50
 etc.  How about an SC key combination that will tell you where you are on
 the line?



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RE: Screen rotation.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Looks like I have to shut JAWS off to use this shortcut key. With JAWS turned 
on the cntl+alt+arrows refer to title controls.  

 

 

Is there anyway to rotate with JAWS turned on?

I think I know at least where the problem starts…when I turn off JAWS to 
restart it I use the shortcut of the cntrl + alt + J to restart JAWS..I must be 
inadvertently hitting one of the arrow keys during the restart.  

From: Aleeha Dudley [mailto:blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:57 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Greg Nickel
Subject: Re: Screen rotation.

 

When my DELL laptop did this, it was control alt and the arrow keys. I don’t 
think there is a sound that can be played when this happens. I think, though, 
that there is a way to turn these shortcuts off. 

Aleeha Dudley and Seeing Eye Dog Dallas 

Vice President, Ohio Association of Guide Dog Users 

Vice President, Ohio Association of Blind Students 

Both proud divisions of the National Federation of the Blind of Ohio 

Email: blindcowgirl1...@gmail.com 

Phone: 937-733-0525

The National Federation of the Blind knows that blindness is not the 
characteristic that defines you or your future. Every day we raise the 
expectations of blind people, because low expectations create obstacles between 
blind people and our dreams. You can live the life you want; blindness is not 
what holds you back. 

“The wind of heaven is that which blows between a horse’s ears.” - Arabian 
proverb 

 

On Apr 25, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com wrote:

 

Hi all.



From time to time my screen orientation gets rotated 90 degrees.  I only
know this because my wife happens to see my screen.  When it is brought to
my attention, I then recollect that I have frequent cursor jumping and other
minor focus issues.  Since they were only annoyances that I chalked up to
the idiosyncrasies of JAWS I didn't know to fix the problem. 



So, here's a couple questions:



1.   What is the shortcut to re-orientate or rotate the screen?

2.   Is there any audio cue that can be assigned to indicate the screen
has rotated?

Not sure what the shortcut key is that rotates the screen but it must be
similar or adjacent to one that I use since this seems to happen to me
reasonably frequently.



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RE: Screen rotation.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Yes...Tom, that's got it.

Trick is that when you go to the desk top using shortcut key like windows M
ore windows D you have to tap away from focus then open the context menue
where I found Graphic options and could arrow to rotate to normal.

Certainly would be nice to know when/if it changes...Couldn't find the
option to turn off this shortcut. 

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 3:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Tom Lange
Subject: Re: Screen rotation.

Hi Greg,
This problem is not unique to Dell laptops; I've run into this issue with 
Dell desktop machines that have an Intel graphics adapter.  I think the 
shortcut that caused the screen rotation is ctrl+alt+right arrow, and to set

it back to normal may be ctrl+alt+up arrow.  If that doesn't work, put focus

on the desktop and make sure that nothing is selected.  Then bring up the 
context menu with the applications key or shift+f10, and look for something 
related to Intel Graphics.  Open that submenu and in there you should see an

option to reorient the screen. You may also see something that will disable 
screen rotation.

Hope that helps.

Tom


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To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Screen rotation.


 Hi all.



 From time to time my screen orientation gets rotated 90 degrees.  I only
 know this because my wife happens to see my screen.  When it is brought to
 my attention, I then recollect that I have frequent cursor jumping and 
 other
 minor focus issues.  Since they were only annoyances that I chalked up to
 the idiosyncrasies of JAWS I didn't know to fix the problem.



 So, here's a couple questions:



 1.   What is the shortcut to re-orientate or rotate the screen?

 2.   Is there any audio cue that can be assigned to indicate the 
 screen
 has rotated?

 Not sure what the shortcut key is that rotates the screen but it must be
 similar or adjacent to one that I use since this seems to happen to me
 reasonably frequently.



 Thanks.



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Screen rotation.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Hi all.

 

From time to time my screen orientation gets rotated 90 degrees.  I only
know this because my wife happens to see my screen.  When it is brought to
my attention, I then recollect that I have frequent cursor jumping and other
minor focus issues.  Since they were only annoyances that I chalked up to
the idiosyncrasies of JAWS I didn't know to fix the problem. 

 

So, here's a couple questions:

 

1.   What is the shortcut to re-orientate or rotate the screen?

2.   Is there any audio cue that can be assigned to indicate the screen
has rotated?

Not sure what the shortcut key is that rotates the screen but it must be
similar or adjacent to one that I use since this seems to happen to me
reasonably frequently.

 

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RE: Screen rotation.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Hey Nicole.

Tim's suggestion gets it done without shutting off JAWS.

Windows + M or D to desktop then take focus off any icons then open the
context menue shift + f10 then to graphic options and to rotate screen.

I can't see the orientation so for me this indicates that I've set it to
normal orientation
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via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 3:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Nicole Massey
Subject: RE: Screen rotation.

Yes, this happens on my non-Dell machine with an Intel graphics adapter as
well. I've not found a way to right this condition with Jaws on, but
shutting it off, fixing the problem, and then turning it right back on seems
to resolve the issue.

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 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange
 via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 5:32 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Tom Lange
 Subject: Re: Screen rotation.
 
 Hi Greg,
 This problem is not unique to Dell laptops; I've run into this issue
 with Dell desktop machines that have an Intel graphics adapter.  I
 think the shortcut that caused the screen rotation is ctrl+alt+right
 arrow, and to set it back to normal may be ctrl+alt+up arrow.  If that
 doesn't work, put focus on the desktop and make sure that nothing is
 selected.  Then bring up the context menu with the applications key or
 shift+f10, and look for something related to Intel Graphics.  Open that
 submenu and in there you should see an option to reorient the screen.
 You may also see something that will disable screen rotation.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Tom
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:52 PM
 Subject: Screen rotation.
 
 
  Hi all.
 
 
 
  From time to time my screen orientation gets rotated 90 degrees.  I
 only
  know this because my wife happens to see my screen.  When it is
 brought to
  my attention, I then recollect that I have frequent cursor jumping
 and
  other
  minor focus issues.  Since they were only annoyances that I chalked
 up to
  the idiosyncrasies of JAWS I didn't know to fix the problem.
 
 
 
  So, here's a couple questions:
 
 
 
  1.   What is the shortcut to re-orientate or rotate the screen?
 
  2.   Is there any audio cue that can be assigned to indicate the
  screen
  has rotated?
 
  Not sure what the shortcut key is that rotates the screen but it must
 be
  similar or adjacent to one that I use since this seems to happen to
 me
  reasonably frequently.
 
 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
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RE: Screen rotation.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Yes, exactly...so does anyone know a shortcut key to rotate the screen with
JAWS turned on?  And secondarily is there any way to know the orientation of
the screen, for those of us without vision? -Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Martin
Blackwell via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 3:12 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Martin Blackwell
Subject: RE: Screen rotation.

On the Dell laptops  I've seen, Control plus Alt plus Up Arrow did the
trick. However, it never worked for me while JAWS was running. Only when I
exited. That may not be true for everyone. Which keystroke works may depend
on your graphic card. I don't know of any way to assign an audio cue.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:53 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel
Subject: Screen rotation.

Hi all.

 

From time to time my screen orientation gets rotated 90 degrees.  I only
know this because my wife happens to see my screen.  When it is brought to
my attention, I then recollect that I have frequent cursor jumping and other
minor focus issues.  Since they were only annoyances that I chalked up to
the idiosyncrasies of JAWS I didn't know to fix the problem. 

 

So, here's a couple questions:

 

1.   What is the shortcut to re-orientate or rotate the screen?

2.   Is there any audio cue that can be assigned to indicate the screen
has rotated?

Not sure what the shortcut key is that rotates the screen but it must be
similar or adjacent to one that I use since this seems to happen to me
reasonably frequently.

 

Thanks.

 

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RE: Screen rotation.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Thanks Ann.  Nice reminder about the search optio...

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 6:31 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Ann Byrne
Subject: Re: Screen rotation.

Another easy way in windows 7 is to press the windows key so you get 
the search box, and type 'screen orientation' and press enter.  Or 
type 'rotate screen' and arrow to 'screen orientation'.  The search 
feature in windows 7 is awesome!


At 04:52 PM 4/25/2015, you wrote:
Hi all.



 From time to time my screen orientation gets rotated 90 degrees.  I only
know this because my wife happens to see my screen.  When it is brought to
my attention, I then recollect that I have frequent cursor jumping and
other
minor focus issues.  Since they were only annoyances that I chalked up to
the idiosyncrasies of JAWS I didn't know to fix the problem.



So, here's a couple questions:



1.   What is the shortcut to re-orientate or rotate the screen?

2.   Is there any audio cue that can be assigned to indicate the screen
has rotated?

Not sure what the shortcut key is that rotates the screen but it must be
similar or adjacent to one that I use since this seems to happen to me
reasonably frequently.



Thanks.



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RE: Screen rotation.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Thanks Mike.


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Michael B. via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 4:48 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Michael B.
Subject: Re: Screen rotation.

Hi Greg,

Open Graphics Options, arrow down to, Hotkeys, press enter, arrow up / down 
to, Disable,  press enter.  This will disable the Hotkeys so this won't 
happen again.  HTH
Take care.
Mike
This email was sent from my, iGoDodgersBarstool.

- Original Message - 
From: Greg Nickel via Jfw
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Greg Nickel
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 3:58 PM
Subject: RE: Screen rotation.


Hey Nicole.

Tim's suggestion gets it done without shutting off JAWS.

Windows + M or D to desktop then take focus off any icons then open the
context menue shift + f10 then to graphic options and to rotate screen.

I can't see the orientation so for me this indicates that I've set it to
normal orientation
 -Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 3:47 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Cc: Nicole Massey
Subject: RE: Screen rotation.

Yes, this happens on my non-Dell machine with an Intel graphics adapter as
well. I've not found a way to right this condition with Jaws on, but
shutting it off, fixing the problem, and then turning it right back on seems
to resolve the issue.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange
 via Jfw
 Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 5:32 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Cc: Tom Lange
 Subject: Re: Screen rotation.

 Hi Greg,
 This problem is not unique to Dell laptops; I've run into this issue
 with Dell desktop machines that have an Intel graphics adapter.  I
 think the shortcut that caused the screen rotation is ctrl+alt+right
 arrow, and to set it back to normal may be ctrl+alt+up arrow.  If that
 doesn't work, put focus on the desktop and make sure that nothing is
 selected.  Then bring up the context menu with the applications key or
 shift+f10, and look for something related to Intel Graphics.  Open that
 submenu and in there you should see an option to reorient the screen.
 You may also see something that will disable screen rotation.

 Hope that helps.

 Tom


 - Original Message -
 From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
 Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:52 PM
 Subject: Screen rotation.


  Hi all.
 
 
 
  From time to time my screen orientation gets rotated 90 degrees.  I
 only
  know this because my wife happens to see my screen.  When it is
 brought to
  my attention, I then recollect that I have frequent cursor jumping
 and
  other
  minor focus issues.  Since they were only annoyances that I chalked
 up to
  the idiosyncrasies of JAWS I didn't know to fix the problem.
 
 
 
  So, here's a couple questions:
 
 
 
  1.   What is the shortcut to re-orientate or rotate the screen?
 
  2.   Is there any audio cue that can be assigned to indicate the
  screen
  has rotated?
 
  Not sure what the shortcut key is that rotates the screen but it must
 be
  similar or adjacent to one that I use since this seems to happen to
 me
  reasonably frequently.
 
 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
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RE: Screen rotation.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Yup...got it.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave Carlson
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 7:36 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Dave Carlson
Subject: Re: Screen rotation.

Greg,

It's there, and you just need to look further in the dialog. Perhaps hidden 
in a menu tree.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, Musician, and pioneer

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From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 03:39 PM
Subject: RE: Screen rotation.


Yes...Tom, that's got it.

Trick is that when you go to the desk top using shortcut key like windows M
ore windows D you have to tap away from focus then open the context menue
where I found Graphic options and could arrow to rotate to normal.

Certainly would be nice to know when/if it changes...Couldn't find the
option to turn off this shortcut.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tom Lange via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 3:32 PM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Cc: Tom Lange
Subject: Re: Screen rotation.

Hi Greg,
This problem is not unique to Dell laptops; I've run into this issue with
Dell desktop machines that have an Intel graphics adapter.  I think the
shortcut that caused the screen rotation is ctrl+alt+right arrow, and to set

it back to normal may be ctrl+alt+up arrow.  If that doesn't work, put focus

on the desktop and make sure that nothing is selected.  Then bring up the
context menu with the applications key or shift+f10, and look for something
related to Intel Graphics.  Open that submenu and in there you should see an

option to reorient the screen. You may also see something that will disable
screen rotation.

Hope that helps.

Tom


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From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Cc: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 2:52 PM
Subject: Screen rotation.


 Hi all.



 From time to time my screen orientation gets rotated 90 degrees.  I only
 know this because my wife happens to see my screen.  When it is brought to
 my attention, I then recollect that I have frequent cursor jumping and
 other
 minor focus issues.  Since they were only annoyances that I chalked up to
 the idiosyncrasies of JAWS I didn't know to fix the problem.



 So, here's a couple questions:



 1.   What is the shortcut to re-orientate or rotate the screen?

 2.   Is there any audio cue that can be assigned to indicate the
 screen
 has rotated?

 Not sure what the shortcut key is that rotates the screen but it must be
 similar or adjacent to one that I use since this seems to happen to me
 reasonably frequently.



 Thanks.



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screen rotation

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Hi all.

 

I discovered when arrowing around the context menue a feature that will
notify you of any graphic changes you make.

 

So, if you open the context menue on the desktop by pressing shift F10 when
not focused on an icon you will arrow down to graphic options then arrow to
balloon notifications where you can select enable or disable a notification
that prompts you to accept the changes when you make them to a graphics
setting such as rotating the screen.  

 

Cheers to all for their input on this one.

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RE: excel question

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Alt + H + O + I automatically adjusts the collum width and alt + H + O + W
lets you adjust manually.


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Hassan via Jfw
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 3:38 AM
To: Nicole Massey; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: excel question

May I add my own question to this thread please?
With jaws how do you tell if data/text hasn't fully fitted in a box? and I
used to know this with previous versions, how do you make the boxes bigger
in order to fit the data/text in?

Many thanks 

Sent from my iPhone

 On 6 Mar 2015, at 1:00 am, Nicole Massey via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
wrote:
 
 Go to the row below where you want to insert the line. Press Control+ the
 plus key. Arrow down to Insert entire row and press enter. There are other
 ways to do this, but this is the one I find to be the fastest and easiest,
 and it works in every version of Excel I've encountered going back as far
as
 versions for Windows 3x.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Barbara
 Hansen via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 7:00 PM
 To: Jfw lists
 Subject: excel question
 
 Hello all,
 
 
 
 I know this question has been addressed before, but didn't need to know
 at that time.
 
 
 
 I am needing to add a row in an excel document that has already been
 created. I am using jaws version 16 and office 2010. Your assistance on
 keystroke for inserting a line in this document would be appreciated.
 
 
 
 Barbara H.
 
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RE: search engines

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Ixquick.com or type ixquick in your search bar.
 
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 6:02 AM
To: Andre Jarreau; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: search engines

where could i get it?
On 1/21/2015 7:57 AM, Andre Jarreau via Jfw wrote:
 Ok, for those less tech savvy.  Would IXQuick work with Firefox, IE or
other
 browsers as a default?  Or is a search engine a stand alone application.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
 via Jfw
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 1:40 AM
 To: 'Nicole Massey'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'; 'David
 Hardingham'
 Subject: RE: search engines

 Indeed, Ixquick is excellent.  No cluttered results just does what you ask
 of it.  Simple to install if any of you want to give it a go...

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole
Massey
 via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 5:08 PM
 To: 'David Hardingham'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Subject: RE: search engines

 I'm a huge fan of Ixquick. It's completely blind accessible using Jaws. I
 also like the quality of the searches and the clarity of what I get.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David
 Hardingham via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 5:26 PM
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Subject: search engines

 Hi all,

 Does anyone know of a search engine that works well with jaws fourteen.
 I have ask.com  and I cannot find anything I want when doing a search.
 I get link after link that have nothing to do with what I am looking
 for.

 I remember once that there was a search enginge for the blind but do
 not remember what it was or if it worked.

 I use i.e. latest and windoweyes latest as well as firefox latest.
 Still no matter what I use I just wind up frustrated.

 Thanks,


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Accessing embedded objects in excel.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Does anyone know how to access embedded objects in excel?  When tabbing to a
sheet within a workbook it reads the name of the sheet and then states the
number of embedded objects.  What is an embedded object and how do you
access it?

 

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RE: search engines

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Indeed, Ixquick is excellent.  No cluttered results just does what you ask
of it.  Simple to install if any of you want to give it a go...

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 5:08 PM
To: 'David Hardingham'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: search engines

I'm a huge fan of Ixquick. It's completely blind accessible using Jaws. I
also like the quality of the searches and the clarity of what I get.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of David
 Hardingham via Jfw
 Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 5:26 PM
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Subject: search engines
 
 Hi all,
 
 Does anyone know of a search engine that works well with jaws fourteen.
 I have ask.com  and I cannot find anything I want when doing a search.
 I get link after link that have nothing to do with what I am looking
 for.
 
 I remember once that there was a search enginge for the blind but do
 not remember what it was or if it worked.
 
 I use i.e. latest and windoweyes latest as well as firefox latest.
 Still no matter what I use I just wind up frustrated.
 
 Thanks,
 
 
 David
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RE: Pivot table excel question

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Once you have created the pivot table and added the category to row or
column titles then you'll need to set the field settings to what you need.

Take a look at mrexcel.com.  They have 5 minute tutorials that will help
you.  

Shorcut keys:
Select the data field then alt +n then enter twice.  Then create the pivot
table .  Then f6 opens the pivot table settings select the category you wish
to display then shift + f10 to set in the field then tab to the category
button you just created and enter on that to set the field settings.  


From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Marie
Medlar via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 11:32 AM
To: Diana Brent; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Pivot table excel question

I created my first pivot table in Excel 2003.
I have an age band from 19 to 29, 30-39, 40-49...
In column I.
How do I get totals for how many members are in each age band?  e

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RE: the blind geek zone is closing

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

I think its in geek...anyone translate that?

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 9:54 PM
To: 'Stan Bobbitt'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: the blind geek zone is closing

Is that English?

 Success is the result of perfection, hard work, learning from failure,
loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Stan Bobbitt
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 12:29 PM
To: Howard Traxler; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: the blind geek zone is closing

the seat of the faculty of reason

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From: Howard Traxler via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 12:44 PM
To: Marvin Hunkin ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: the blind geek zone is closing

what is a nous?

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From: Marvin Hunkin via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 2:47 AM
Subject: the blind geek zone is closing


 Hi.

 Nik.

 Can you post this on the group.

 Just heard that the blind-geek-zone will be closing for gooid in bebuary,
 lack of resources and lack of funding.

 Rick Harman, did put up all the archives over 20 gb of the blind cool tech
 podcasts.

 So.

 If any one has the means, or the cash, or the time.

 Maybe some one who has the nous, maybe to host the archives.

 Any thoughts?

 And looking forward to bills new web work shop tutorials.

 And will a new blind geeks site be up on the web any time soon?

 Marvin.

 Marvin Hunkin

 Blind Information Technology Student

 http://www.upskilled.edu.au







 Marvin Hunkin

 Blind Information Technology Student

 http://www.upskilled.edu.au



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RE: Open book and and large books

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

I find that open book tends to loose the formatting so I have opted to take
a different approach to getting pdf's into word format.  The program is 20
per year.

www.adobe.com/.../pdf-to-word-doc-converter.html
 


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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 8:13 AM
To: Tom Macha; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Open book and and large books

Hello Tom,
There may be an easier method, but I am unaware of it.
I copy and paste in a MS Word document, and then mark up the text with 
headings so I can navigate using quick keys.
Cheers Kevin.

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From: Tom Macha via Jfw
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 2:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Openbook and and large books

This may be a little off topic but, I am needing help. Hello, I am trying to
navigaite a school book that is large. I am trying to find the best way to
get to the spisific chapters needed as it is a PDF dropped into openbook.
Thanks,Tom Macha

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RE: Open book and and large books

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Actually, nitro has a completely free pdf to word converter that is totally
great and simple to use.  This is the link to the URL where I just used it.
The URL might not open directly as a link so you can search pdf to word
converter + nitro and you'll get there just the same.

https://www.pdftoword.com/

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 8:13 AM
To: Tom Macha; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Open book and and large books

Hello Tom,
There may be an easier method, but I am unaware of it.
I copy and paste in a MS Word document, and then mark up the text with 
headings so I can navigate using quick keys.
Cheers Kevin.

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From: Tom Macha via Jfw
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 2:42 PM
To: 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: Openbook and and large books

This may be a little off topic but, I am needing help. Hello, I am trying to
navigaite a school book that is large. I am trying to find the best way to
get to the spisific chapters needed as it is a PDF dropped into openbook.
Thanks,Tom Macha

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RE: selecting a size using jfw

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Hey Kim.

I just looked up this which you might find useful

To quickly locate a specific form control press INSERT+F5. This command
lists all form controls and their contents on the current page. Move through
the list and press ENTER to move to the selected control. Forms mode is
automatically enabled so you are ready to make changes to the control. And
if you have already entered information in a long form, use the Forms List
to quickly review the information.

This page has more details and other info that might help.  Let us all know
if you get it to work and how...it seems to be a problem we all run into...

http://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Surfs-Up/Forms.htm




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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Spratt
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 11:16 AM
To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: selecting a size using jfw

Kimsan, if you're on Amazon, I encountered this problem several months ago.
I think the solution involved a ridiculous amount of trial-and-error,
ultimately leaving me uncertain until I placed the order and quickly checked
my account before the 30-minute cancellation window expired.

You might consider giving up and doing the transaction via phone, if that's
an option for you. In the process, you can complain on behalf of all of us
who fear for the safety of our computer's monitors when frustration reaches
a certain level.

Amazon's phone is 866-216-1072.

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kimsan via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 1:39 PM
To: jfw
Subject: selecting a size using jfw

I'm on this shop site, it says select a size, s, m l. No combobox. 

 

I've done spacebar, enter, left mouse click, but it doesn't appear to
work.Suggestions?

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loyalty and persistence. Colin Powell

 

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Issue with jaws and spellcheck.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

All,

 

I reinstalled jaws 14 recently to find that during spellcheck in MS word
2010 jaws speaks the correction as call signs.Ie. foxtrot for F etc.

 

Anyone know how to change this?

 

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IE 11 and optimization with jaws.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Can anyone assist with optimizing jaws with IE 11?  When filling in edit
boxes there is a serious lag that I can't explain.  My computer running jaws
is slower than without jaws generally so I'm wondering if anyone can suggest
how to get the two programs to play on the same team? 

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RE: Reading column/row titles in Excel

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

I've been working on this one and the simplest answer to your question is
that you need to set excel rather than JAWS to be able to carry any of these
settings forward in excel or to enable another jaws user to be able to
access the same settings you have set to the document when exporting the
document to them.  

Anyway, here is what I know to anser your question:

1.  First, select the range of cells you want to set as your defined
region: Put the focus on the cell in the top left of the data region then
Cntrl+shift+8 selects the region automatically. Or, you can simply use the
go to feature or select the cells manually.
2.  Press ALT+M M D to move to define names from the Formulas tab 
3.  Do not use spaces when defining the name of your data region.
4.  Tab to Scope and enter the combo box to select the scope of your
region..Choose workbook or sheet.
Tap OK and there you have it


Also, incidentally, if you want to manage these settings type alt +M+M and
arrow to manage titles button.  

Furthermore the following is a more lengthy means to setting it up but looks
to be more exacting.  

I'm attempting to set up multiple regions and have jaws read them
independentlynot sure that is possible...FS is looking into it.

This is what I know about it:

You can define individual row and/or column titles for different regions in
the same workbook. To define a row and/or column title for region, you use
the same procedure described in Defining Row and Column Titles to assign a
specific name to a cell in the heading row and/or column. However, you must
use the following procedure when defining names for row and column titles
that are specific to one region:

 

1. Type TitleRegion, RowTitleRegion, or ColumnTitleRegion depending on
whether this cell is in the heading row, heading column, or both.

2. Type the region number. For example, you would type a 1 if the cells
were in the first region. There should be no space between the previous text
and this number.

3. Type a period followed by the coordinates of the top, left cell in the
0t08region (for example, A1).

4. Type a period followed by the coordinates of the bottom, right cell in
the region (for example, N9).

5. Type a period followed by the worksheet number. For example, you would
type a 1 if the cell was in worksheet 1.

 

For example, assume you have a spreadsheet with a region whose boundaries
are row 1 at column A and row 9 at column N. It also has a second region
with boundaries of row 10 at column C and row 14 at column D. Both regions
are on worksheet 1. To define row 1 as the row containing column headers for
the cells in the first region, you would assign the following name to cell
A1: ColumnTitleRegion1.A1.N9.1. To define row 9 as the row containing column
headers for the cells in the second region, you would assign the following
name to cell C10: ColumnTitleRegion2.C10.D14.1.

 

Hope this is useful...
Greg
 
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Ann Byrne via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 5:11 PM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Reading column/row titles in Excel

JAWS 16, windows 8.1, Excel 2013.  I believe I have followed the 
instructions for naming column titles with JAWS, *not using 
control-alt-insert-c.  I want to be able to save-as my document and 
have the column title announcement carry to the new document.  if 
someone has made this work, please send me step-by-step 
instructions.  I think I am step-by-stepping according to the 
JAWS  training materials, but my column titles are not being announced.

Thanks,

Ann


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RE: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Does it make sense to use open book to read the graphical text?  OB is the
program I use for reading anything that jaws cannot.  

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gary King via
Jfw
Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2014 6:46 PM
To: Sharon; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?

Yes, the Kindle app works very well on the iPhone and other iOS devices.

Actually, JAWS is used in the accessible version of Kindle for PC to speak 
the menus of the program and other controls.  The voices that come with the 
program speak the text of the book.  JAWS can't read or navigate the text of

the book on the screen directly because it's in graphical form.  As I 
mentioned in a previous post, the Convenient OCR feature can be used with 
this graphical text, but what you get may not make much sense if the print 
is in columns.

Gary King
w4...@bellsouth.net
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From: Sharon via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'Andre Jarreau' andre.jarr...@earthlink.net; 'The Jaws for Windows 
support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 8:59 PM
Subject: RE: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?


 OO that concerns me a bit. Kindle works well on the Iphone right? Because 
 if
 so, I'm not sure I want to mess with the PC version without being able to
 use Jaws.
 Sharon

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre 
 Jarreau
 via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, December 19, 2014 9:34 PM
 To: 'Adrian Spratt'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Subject: RE: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?

 Unfortunately JAWS voices are not an option.  The interface with Kindle 
 for
 PC turns JAWS off and only uses the Kindle for PC voices.  I am told 
 Amazon
 does this to prevent hacking through any window left open to JAWS.  It 
 takes
 a little getting used to but the Amazon Techs can talk you through how it
 works.


 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Adrian 
 Spratt
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 10:00 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Subject: RE: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?

 Thanks for posting this useful information, but it leaves a question. If
 this Kindle comes with its own two voices, why is JAWS needed? Or put
 another way, are you saying we can ignore Amazon's voices and work just 
 with
 JAWS? That's what I'd want.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Andre 
 Jarreau
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:11 PM
 To: 'Nicole Massey'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Subject: RE: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?

 Yes there is a Kindle version with built in JAWS accessibility.  It's 
 called
 Kindle_for_PC with JAWS screenreader plug-in already installed in it.
 JAWS works pretty well with it.  Call Amazon Cust Support and ask for the
 Kindle_for_PC with JAWS screenreader plug-in download.  They will assist
 with getting everything onto your computer and stay with you until you get
 it up and running.

 Be ware the Kindle speech synthesizer has only two voices,  Male and 
 female.
 Neither is very good and understanding what is written sometimes takes a
 little time.  But overall it does work fairly well with JAWS.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Nicole 
 Massey
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:49 PM
 To: 'Tim Ford'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
 Subject: RE: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?

 Well, the Kindle player for Windows should let you access it, though I 
 don't
 know how accessible that application is. Anyone got any experience with 
 it?

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Tim Ford
 via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 6:46 PM
 To: The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Subject: Accessible method of converting Kindle book?

 I want to read a book that so far as I can tell, is available only in
 print or Kindle.  It is a 2014 copyright date.  Is there any method,
 accessible with JAWS, by which I can purchase the Kindle version, and
 convert it to some file I can access?

 Tim Ford
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Modifying cells in excel short cut table defined

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

All.

 

In case anyone wishes to create custom layouts in excel with addresses or
other items that need custom sizing here below is a list of the shortcuts to
get there and some others that I found useful along the way.  

 

Hold Alt when tapping the latter key strokes. (for excel 2007 and later)

 

Modifying cells in Excel

Protect sheet Alt HOP 

Lock cell: Alt HOL 

Format cells: Alt HOE

Adjust width: Alt HOW

Adjust height: Alt HOH

Auto fit Width: Alt HOI

Auto fit Height: Alt HOA

Default size: Alt HOD

Rename sheet: Alt HOR

Move or copy sheet: Alt HOM

 

 

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Excel regions defined.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

All.

 

I wanted to pass along something I've been working on that is proving very
valuable.

 

This trick will let you define a region in excel that will allow you to
function within that region independently of all other regions you set
within the sheet or workbook.  It's a very nice feature when you want to set
a format for a particular group of cells such as an address block etc.  you
can even produce pivot tables from these regions independently for analysis.

 

You may also set the widths of these collums and heights of these rows
independently of the surrounding columns or rows and you may also then set
jaws to read the titles of said rows and columns independently of other
regions you have within the sheet and that is the beauty. 

 

So here goes..Typically a work sheet has a default of 1 data region.  In
order to customize the sheet so that what you do within the data set/region
you are working only effects that working area you must define each region
independently.  Here's how:

1.First, select the range of cells you want to set as your defined
region: Put the focus on the cell in the top left of the data region then
Cntrl+shift+8 selects the region automatically. Or, you can simply use the
go tofeature or select the cells manually.

2.Press ALT+M M D to move to define names from the Formulas tab 

3.Don't define the name of your data region using spaces.

4.Tab to Scope and enter the combo box to select the scope of your
region..Choose workbook or sheet.

Tap OK and there you have it.

 

 

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sizing cells in excel

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

In Excel:

 

Does anyone know the shortcut keys to defining the cell size to fit a
certain number of characters.  I'm assuming wherever this is located you'd
be able to also adjust columns and rows?

 

Thanks in advance.

  

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RE: sizing cells in excel

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Dave,

To create a hard return or carriage return within a cell the shortcut keys
are alt+enter.  Then when you get your series of lines input within the cell
you can resize as you suggest with alt then OCW.  The alt then OCA only
seems to resize to the first word.

Thanks again.
Greg


-Original Message-
From: Dave Carlson [mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:22 PM
To: Greg Nickel
Subject: Re: sizing cells in excel

Greg,

Not sure, I'm afraid. Seems as though there should be a special return to 
keep within the cell, but if that doesn't work, try other combinations with 
the Enter key.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer

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From: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
To: 'Dave Carlson' dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 08:10 PM
Subject: RE: sizing cells in excel


Somewhat related:

Once resized can you place a hard return within a cell such as if you were
typing an address header?  I thought that was shift enter but it doesn't
seem to work.
-Original Message-
From: Dave Carlson [mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 8:04 PM
To: Greg Nickel
Subject: Re: sizing cells in excel

Greg,

The keystroke combination I gave you should be continued non-stop in spite
of the feedback from JAWS. This will automatically size the
cell/column/row/sheet to the contents. If you want to manually type in a
value, then you need to type Alt, then o, then c, then w.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer

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From: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com
To: 'Dave Carlson' dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 08:01 PM
Subject: RE: sizing cells in excel


H...I'm on 2010.  The key strokes don't seem to open an adjustment
field. It interrupts me after alt then O to say continue typing the MS 2003
menue find key sequence or press esc. To continue.

Do I need to enable something?

-Original Message-
From: Dave Carlson [mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 7:46 PM
To: Greg Nickel; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: sizing cells in excel

Greg,

Alt, Then tap o, c, a. This will resize the selected cell. If you pre-select

a column, or a row, or an entire sheet, it will resize anything selected.
Note that Alt is tapped first, and then lifted before tapping o, c, a.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, woodworker, and pioneer

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From: Greg Nickel via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 05:06 PM
Subject: sizing cells in excel


In Excel:



Does anyone know the shortcut keys to defining the cell size to fit a
certain number of characters.  I'm assuming wherever this is located you'd
be able to also adjust columns and rows?



Thanks in advance.



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RE: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone? Jeannette Ramey

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Does anyone know of a Bluetooth 4.0 keyboard that has an integrated number
pad?  

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Jeff via Jfw
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 5:25 AM
To: 'Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS)'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone? Jeannette
Ramey

I love my blue Tooth keyborad.
I also have a soft sided case and mine fits nicely.  It really is Slim in
its profile.
Taking quick notes, training sessions and other things are so much nicer
than the old way. If they have blue tooth enabled devices, it makes it
extremely quick and easy for me to ride along.


Jeff.c();
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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 5:55 AM
To: Gerardo Corripio; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone? Jeannette
Ramey

How does that affect portability. I understand those keyboards are pretty
small, but I travel with a soft-side briefcase that must hold about
everything I need during my 12 or so hours at the office or on the road.
Overall though, I would think that a talking interface and a real keyboard
would be a good setup.

Ted

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gerardo
Corripio via Jfw
Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:28 PM
To: Johna Lynn Nordin; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone? Jeannette
Ramey

  Very subjective one indeed! According to one's experience with Android or
Iphone, you may have mixed responses. Speaking from my expeirence, though,
Iphone is the best! Good luck in your new phone adventure!

El 11/12/2014 06:52 p.m., Johna Lynn Nordin via Jfw escribis:
 Hello,
 I am using an IPhone 6 with a blue tooth keyboard and I like it very much.

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 jeannette ramey via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 3:09 PM
 To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
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 Hello, as of 2014 what is the best cell phone for totally blind 
 people, the iPhone from Apple or Androids?  Jeannette Ramey

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RE: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone? JeannetteRamey

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Admittedly, this topic may not directly relate to jaws however I agree with
Ted that this is a very important topic for the blind.  We struggle every
day to be more efficient with our devices and our phones are key in that.  I
am too learning an awful lot by the thread.  I don't know if jaws offers a
UI for phones but if it doesn't then I'd like to hear more about this topic
jaws related or not. 

It's a very important topic for the blind community.-Original
Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 9:04 AM
To: Gerald Levy; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone?
JeannetteRamey

Told?  How many administrators do we have here now?  I'd rather discuss it
on the appropriate list, but that list is just shy of terminal!  Frankly, I
was enjoying and learning from it, and I'll bet the farm I'm as busy as
anyone on this list.

Ted

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:28 AM
To: Londa Peterson; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone?
JeannetteRamey


You were told to end this off-topic discussion.  This is a list for the
discussion of JAWS-related issues.  Unless you can explain how JAWS can be
used with Android or IPhones, kindly take this discussion elsewhere to a
more appropriate venue.

Gerald


- Original Message -
From: Londa Peterson via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'Cliff Self' cl...@cablespeed.com; 'The Jaws for Windows support
list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone? 
JeannetteRamey


 This is totally incorrect. Android has a screen reader called 
 Talkback, and it has had this for some time. Mobile Accessibility did 
 make things easier, but it isn't necessary anymore. In fact, I don't 
 even know if it's still available.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff 
 Self via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:34 PM
 To: Gerardo Corripio; The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Subject: Re: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone?
 JeannetteRamey

 One thing to consider here is that the IPhone comes with a 
 screenreader and the Android does not.  When I was looking into it the 
 screenreader for the Android was about 100 bucks, though that may 
 vary, and may have changed since then.  I went with the IPhone and am 
 glad I did.

 cliff


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RE: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone? JeannetteRamey

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

If possible to keep it alive I agree. 


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff Self via
Jfw
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 10:29 AM
To: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS); The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone?
JeannetteRamey

I've learned more from this thread than from any other on this list in many 
months.  What I've learned is screenreader related if not Jaws:

1. Android phones now have built-in screenreaders.
2. Windows 10 will also have a native screenreader.
3. Most respondants find IPhones slightly more blind friendly than Androids.

Please don't shut down this thread yet.  I don't want to have to subscribe 
to another list to get this valuable info.  To any who find it offensive, 
group the thread and tap the delete key.

Thanks,

cliff

- Original Message - 
From: Lisle, Ted (CHFS DMS) via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Gerald Levy bwaylimi...@verizon.net; The Jaws for Windows support 
list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone? 
JeannetteRamey


 Told?  How many administrators do we have here now?  I'd rather discuss it

 on the appropriate list, but that list is just shy of terminal!  Frankly, 
 I was enjoying and learning from it, and I'll bet the farm I'm as busy as 
 anyone on this list.

 Ted

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Gerald Levy 
 via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:28 AM
 To: Londa Peterson; The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Subject: Re: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone? 
 JeannetteRamey


 You were told to end this off-topic discussion.  This is a list for the 
 discussion of JAWS-related issues.  Unless you can explain how JAWS can be

 used with Android or IPhones, kindly take this discussion elsewhere to a 
 more appropriate venue.

 Gerald


 - Original Message -
 From: Londa Peterson via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 To: 'Cliff Self' cl...@cablespeed.com; 'The Jaws for Windows support 
 list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 10:42 AM
 Subject: RE: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone?
 JeannetteRamey


 This is totally incorrect. Android has a screen reader called
 Talkback, and it has had this for some time. Mobile Accessibility did
 make things easier, but it isn't necessary anymore. In fact, I don't
 even know if it's still available.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cliff
 Self via Jfw
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:34 PM
 To: Gerardo Corripio; The Jaws for Windows support list.
 Subject: Re: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone?
 JeannetteRamey

 One thing to consider here is that the IPhone comes with a
 screenreader and the Android does not.  When I was looking into it the
 screenreader for the Android was about 100 bucks, though that may
 vary, and may have changed since then.  I went with the IPhone and am
 glad I did.

 cliff


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RE: Best cellular phone for totally blind is it iPhone? JeannetteRamey

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

; Rules Wizard What do you want to
do with the message? Step 1: Select action's checked stop processing more
rules checked play a sound
 
checked move it to the email clients with screen readers folder not checked
move a copy to the email clients with screen readers folder not checked
assign it to the category category not checked delete it not checked
permanently delete it forward it to people or public group not checked not
checked forward it to people or public group as an attachment not checked
reply using a specific template not checked flag message for follow up at
this time not checked clear the Message Flag not checked clear message's
categories not checked mark it as importance not checked print it not
checked start application not checked mark it as read not checked run a
script Step 2: Edit the rule description (click an underlined value) Apply
this rule after the message arrives from email clients with screen
read...@yahoogroups.com mailto:email clients with screen
readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen
read...@yahoogroups.com mailto:email clients with screen
readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav
and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop
processing more rules Cancel  Back Next Finish Again this screen is okay,
just tab next and press enter.
6. the next screen you wil see is; Rules Wizard Are there any exceptions?
Step 1: Select exception's (if necessary) not checked except if from people
or public group not checked except if the subject contains specific words
not checked except through the specified account not checked except if sent
only to me not checked except where my name is in the To box not checked
except if it is marked as importance not checked except if it is marked as
sensitivity except if it is flagged for action not checked not checked
except where my name is in the Cc box not checked except if my name is in
the To or Cc box not checked except where my name is not in the To box not
checked except if sent to people or public group not checked except if the
body contains specific words not checked except if the subject or body
contains specific words not checked except if the message header contains
specific words not checked except with specific words in the recipient's
address not checked except with specific words in the sender's address not
checked except if assigned to category category Step 2: Edit the rule
description (click an underlined value) Apply this rule after the message
arrives from email clients with screen read...@yahoogroups.com mailto:email
clients with screen readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with
screen read...@yahoogroups.com mailto:email clients with screen
readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav
and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop
processing more rules Cancel  Back Next Finish Again, you can go to the
next button and press enter.
7. now you're presented with the final screen; Rules Wizard Finish rule
setup. Step 1: Specify a name for this rule email clients with screen
read...@yahoogroups.com mailto:email clients with screen
readers%40yahoogroups.com Step 2: Setup rule options Run this rule now on
messages already in email clients with screen readers... You need to check
this box Turn on this rule this box should be checked, Create this rule on
all accounts Step 3: Review rule description (click an underlined value to
edit) Apply this rule after the message arrives from email clients with
screen read...@yahoogroups.com mailto:email clients with screen
readers%40yahoogroups.com and sent to email clients with screen
read...@yahoogroups.com mailto:email clients with screen
readers%40yahoogroups.com and on this computer only play Windows Notify.wav
and move it to the email clients with screen readers folder and stop
processing more rules Cancel  Back Next Finish Now, tab to finish and press
enter.
The rule and conditions will be applied. The messages will be moved from the
inbox to they're respective folder, where the message/rule/folder/filter has
been created.

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 3:58 PM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
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RE: Jfw Digest, Vol 43, Issue 4

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

That is a superb idea.  It would be excellent to have a searchable database.
There is often times when I've asked questions that have already been
addressed as a new member.  What a great resource it would be to have a
database of topics that could be referenced as an ongoing resource for
members.


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lewicki,
Maureen via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 3:34 AM
To: jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Re: Jfw Digest, Vol 43, Issue 4

Just a thought,but all the information shared here is great. Is it ever
catalogued and carefully organized? Not just archived...that is cumbersome
to look through. I mean organized into a manual, Or a FAQ format?

Maureen Murphy Lewicki
Teacher of the Visually Impaired
Bethlehem Central Schools
700 Delaware Avenue
Delmar, NY 12054
http://bcsd.k12.ny.us/


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Pivot tables.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Does anyone have experience with pivot tables in excel?  I haven't been able
to find any resources for implementation with navigation with jaws.

 

Any guidance would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

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Pivot tables in excel

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Hi all.

 

I'm giving pivot tables a go to assist with summarization of categorized
data.  Could anyone provide some quick steps to getting this going or a link
thereto?

 

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opening menu for Nested functions in excel

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

I'm trying to create nested functions within excel in order to execute
if/then outcomes.  Does anyone know how to activate the function wizard as
suggested by MS without using the mouse.also suggested as below?


 


 


Create a formula by using nested functions


Nested functions use a function as one of the arguments of another function.
You can nest up to 64 levels of functions. The following formula sums a set
of numbers (G2:G5) only if the average of another set of numbers (F2:F5) is
greater than 50. Otherwise, it returns 0.

Nested functions

1. The AVERAGE and SUM functions are nested within the IF function. 

1.Click the cell in which you want to enter the formula.

2.To start the formula with the function, click Function Wizard Button
imageon the formula bar Button image.

3.Select the function that you want to use. 

You can enter a question that describes what you want to do in the Search
for a function box (for example, add numbers returns the SUM function), or
browse from the categories in the Or Select a category box.

Tip   For a list of available functions, see List of worksheet functions
(alphabetical) http://www.office.com/redir/HA010277524  or List of
worksheet functions (by category)
https://support.office.com/en-us/article/List-of-worksheet-functions-by-cat
egory-7fd9655a-4e87-400a-ae5c-c48f16afde0c .

4.To enter the arguments, do one or more of the following: 

oTo enter cell references as an argument, click Collapse Dialog Button
imagenext to the argument you want (which temporarily hides the dialog box),
select the cells on the worksheet, and then press Expand Dialog Button
image.

oTo enter another function as an argument, enter the function in the
argument box that you want. For example, you can add SUM(G2:G5) in the
Value_if_true edit box of the IF function.

o 

 

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Catagory grouping in excel

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Hello all.

 

Can anyone tell me how to group line items in excel by their row title?

 

I have catagories of construction costs that have been expensed on different
dates for different amounts.  I'd like to categorize them by row title so
that all the expenses for each category are grouped together. 

 

Thanks, as always.

 

 

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RE: Formulas in excel.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

The formula that worked was:

=+'sheet 1'!e6+'sheet 1'!e9

The cell in sheet 2 where you type the formula displays the results.


-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Hourigan
via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 8:27 AM
To: Sameer; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Formulas in excel.

Hello Excellers,
I tried this for entertainment, and received the comments Ref has formula 
or Name has formula; What would I enter to receive the actual number of 
the sum, please?
Cheers Kevin.

-Original Message- 
From: Sameer via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2014 12:00 PM
To: Greg Nickel ; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Formulas in excel.


If you are adding two cells of one sheet  showing the total in another
sheet, the sheet name should precede both the cell references.

The formula should be =+'Sheet 1'!E6+'Sheet 1'!E9

Regards
Mr. Sameer Latey,
Mumbai, India
-Original Message- 
From: Greg Nickel via Jfw
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2014 12:42 AM
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: Formulas in excel.

Your excel knowledge is needed!



I'm trying to link cells from one worksheet to another and at the same time
add the values of cells on that first work sheet reflected as a sum on sheet
2.



So.what I have so far is:



=+'sheet 1'!e6+e9



It shows the value of e6 on sheet 2 but doesn't add e9 to it.  How do I get
the formula to add the contents of e6 and e9 from sheet 1?



As always, many thanks to all of you.





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activating mouse overs.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Does anyone know if there is a shortcut key to activate a link that has a
mouse over function?  

 

I'm in Netflix.  The titles of the links of movies have mouse over
functions that give a brief synopsis.  I'd like to activate this with a
shortcut key. 

 

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Formulas in excel.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Your excel knowledge is needed! 

 

I'm trying to link cells from one worksheet to another and at the same time
add the values of cells on that first work sheet reflected as a sum on sheet
2. 

 

So.what I have so far is:

 

=+'sheet 1'!e6+e9

 

It shows the value of e6 on sheet 2 but doesn't add e9 to it.  How do I get
the formula to add the contents of e6 and e9 from sheet 1?

 

As always, many thanks to all of you.

 

 

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RE: Alt+n not working?

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Cntl.+J is the ticket.  It allows you to also arrow to the open, save or
cancel buttons

Thanks.
Greg

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Brown
via Jfw
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 3:42 PM
To: Adrian Spratt; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Alt+n not working?

What about Control+J to move to the download dialog, then whack enter on the

file you want to start downloaded.

Thanks,
Dennis Brown

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From: Adrian Spratt via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: The Jaws for Windows support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:37 PM
Subject: RE: Alt+n not working?


 Try the left-mouse button, just to the right of the numlock key. If that 
 doesn't work, I sometimes find that alt-n doesn't appear to work when, in 
 reality, the problem is that JAWS isn't navigating as I'd expect. So then,

 after pressing alt-n, I try left and right arrow keys in lieu of tabs, and

 vice-versa. Sometimes the item you want appears in the system tray, but I 
 doubt that would be the case here.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel 
 via Jfw
 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 6:06 PM
 To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Subject: Alt+n not working?

 Does anyone have any alternatives when Alt+n doesn't change the focus to 
 the
 pop up window?  I struggle with this when downloading spreadsheets from my
 bank account.  After pressing the download button I am prompted to press
 Alt+n to Open, Save or Cancel and Alt + n doesn't change the focus to 
 the
 pop up window to select one of these options.



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RE: Reading column and row titles in Excel.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Thanks Dave.  That is simpler.



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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave 'Farfar'
Carlson via Jfw
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 7:58 AM
To: Anna Byrne; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Reading column and row titles in Excel.

Deleting is not as complicated as that. When in Excel, press JAWS+V to open 
the quick change dialog. Then type the word title and you will find one item

indicating the row/column identifiers. below that is a clear title 
definitions  that you can use to clear it out.

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, pioneer, landlord, Farfar, musician, and woodworker

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From: Anna Byrne via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: Greg Nickel greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com; The Jaws for Windows 
support list. jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2014 04:37 AM
Subject: RE: Reading column and row titles in Excel.


If you put in titles and decide you don't want them at all, you
either have to delete the .jsi file, or reset the title rows/columns
so they are out of your way.  Resetting is easier than deleting.  You
could set column xx as the row title.  JAWS doesn't read to the left
of the row title, so xx would be out of the reading range.  You could
set row 300 as the column title, and use the rows above it.

To delete the .jsi file
1. Open programs.
2. Find your version of JAWS, which will be closed.
3. Open it with right arrow.
4. arrow down to 'explore JAWS', which will be closed
5. Open it with right arrow.
6. Arrow down to 'explore my settings and press enter.
7. The first item is 'personalized settings'; it isn't selected.
8. Select/open it.
9. Delete the .jsi file that matches your Excel file name.

good luck!


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Inserting in Excel.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Hi all.

 

I'm working in Excel 2010 and wonder if any of you can advise on how to
insert columns and rows more efficiently.

 

I want to insert multiple rowes at once rather than one at a time as I'm
doing it now.  In a worksheet I shiftF10 then arrow down to insert then to
entire row or entire column.  This inserts an entire row or column but only
one at a time.  

 

Any advice on how to select the number of rows or columns you want to insert
and do it with one action?

 

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RE: Inserting in Excel.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

For my purpose, I'm inserting entire columns and pushing the existing data
over.  I put the focus in the block where I want the new column to go and
then control + to insert then arrow down to the entire column selection.
-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Lisle, Ted
(CHFS DMS) via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 11:43 AM
To: Dave 'Farfar' Carlson; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: RE: Inserting in Excel.

At the risk of asking a dumb question, could you specify a range; are the
desired cells contiguous?

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Dave 'Farfar'
Carlson via Jfw
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 2:03 PM
To: Nicole Massey; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Inserting in Excel.

Also, don't I recall that Ctrl+Y will repeat the last action?

Dave Carlson
Oregonian, pioneer, landlord, Farfar, musician, and woodworker

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From: Nicole Massey via Jfw jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
To: 'Greg Nickel' greg.nickel.wo...@gmail.com; 'The Jaws for Windows 
support list.' jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 10:59 AM
Subject: RE: Inserting in Excel.


Select the cell you want, then go ahead and select cells moving downward or
across before activating the insert function. Note also that you can use
Control+Plus and Control+Minus to hit the insert and delete functions too.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg
 Nickel via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 12:52 PM
 To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Subject: Inserting in Excel.

 Hi all.



 I'm working in Excel 2010 and wonder if any of you can advise on how to
 insert columns and rows more efficiently.



 I want to insert multiple rowes at once rather than one at a time as
 I'm doing it now.  In a worksheet I shiftF10 then arrow down to insert
 then to entire row or entire column.  This inserts an entire row or
 column but only one at a time.



 Any advice on how to select the number of rows or columns you want to
 insert and do it with one action?



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RE: Inserting in Excel.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Even better thanks Anna.


-Original Message-
From: Anna Byrne [mailto:ann...@sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 12:35 PM
To: Greg Nickel; The Jaws for Windows support list.
Subject: Re: Inserting in Excel.

to insert 4 columns between a and b

1. goto (f5 or ctrl-g) b1:e1 and press enter.
   this will select those columns.
2. Go to insert column and press enter.  There are now four blank 
columns between a and e.

Hi all.



I'm working in Excel 2010 and wonder if any of you can advise on how to
insert columns and rows more efficiently.



I want to insert multiple rowes at once rather than one at a time as I'm
doing it now.  In a worksheet I shiftF10 then arrow down to insert then to
entire row or entire column.  This inserts an entire row or column but only
one at a time.



Any advice on how to select the number of rows or columns you want to
insert
and do it with one action?



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Reading column and row titles in Excel.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

All,

 

Could anyone comment on how to direct excel to read a column or row title in
excel?

 

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RE: Reading column and row titles in Excel.

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Nicole and Anna,

Thanks for the tips., it works perfectly...one more thing.  How do you undo
it if you incorrectly set it. -Original Message-
From: Nicole Massey [mailto:ny...@gypsyheir.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 5:38 PM
To: 'Greg Nickel'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: Reading column and row titles in Excel.

Insert+Alt+Control+C for columns, or Insert+Alt+ Control +r for rows. Set
the cursor on the column or row and hit that key combination. You can do
only one  of these at a time. Excel will also sometimes forget this, so you
may have to do it more than once. I suggest saving the sheet as soon as
you've done it as that seems to help it to remember a lot of the time.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg
 Nickel via Jfw
 Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 6:53 PM
 To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
 Subject: Reading column and row titles in Excel.
 
 All,
 
 
 
 Could anyone comment on how to direct excel to read a column or row
 title in excel?
 
 
 
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reading attachment titles in outlook

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Hello all.

Can anyone tell me why/how JAWS does not read more than the first
attachment

in outlook when more than one attachment is present?  

How do you get JAWS to read the titles of all attachments in an email

received in outlook?

I'm using JAWS 14 and Outlook 2010.

 

Thanks.

Greg

 

 

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RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

This is the protocol I use:  Shift+tab from body of email to attachment list
then arrow right.  It only reads 1 of the attachments and then it looses
focus.  

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:14 AM
To: 'George B'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

This is absolutely true with W7 64 bit, JAWS 14 and Office 2007. 
Works like a charm.
Cy t

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From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of George B via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:47 AM
To: 'Greg Nickel'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

From the body of the email,
Shift tab once and you are on the line with the attachements, Now just arrow
right and each attachement if titled will be red to you

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:32
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: reading attachment titles in outlook

Hello all.

Can anyone tell me why/how JAWS does not read more than the first
attachment

in outlook when more than one attachment is present?  

How do you get JAWS to read the titles of all attachments in an email

received in outlook?

I'm using JAWS 14 and Outlook 2010.

 

Thanks.

Greg

 

 

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RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

I've tried this before thinking the same without success.  I tried it here
once again both by maximizing outlook first and the open message 2nd.  Still
loosing focus when arrowing right after the first attachment is read.
 -Original Message-
From: david [mailto:davidwhitehead1...@cogeco.ca] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:28 AM
To: 'Greg Nickel'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

hello;

make sure the window is maximized when your looking for the attachment
names,

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 4, 2014 2:23 PM
To: 'Cy Selfridge'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'; 'George B'
Subject: RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

This is the protocol I use:  Shift+tab from body of email to attachment list
then arrow right.  It only reads 1 of the attachments and then it looses
focus.  

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:14 AM
To: 'George B'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

This is absolutely true with W7 64 bit, JAWS 14 and Office 2007. 
Works like a charm.
Cy t

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of George B via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:47 AM
To: 'Greg Nickel'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

From the body of the email,
Shift tab once and you are on the line with the attachements, Now just arrow
right and each attachement if titled will be red to you

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:32
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: reading attachment titles in outlook

Hello all.

Can anyone tell me why/how JAWS does not read more than the first
attachment

in outlook when more than one attachment is present?  

How do you get JAWS to read the titles of all attachments in an email

received in outlook?

I'm using JAWS 14 and Outlook 2010.

 

Thanks.

Greg

 

 

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RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Thanks guys.  

The problem with using the forward mechanism is that it doesn't allow you to
open individual attachments from the list, it only allows you to hear what
is there.  However, it seems that if in the maximized view you can open the
email then shift tab into the attachments block and then it appears to be
accessible. 


So, thanks guys...seems like we've got it.

Greg
-Original Message-
From: Andre Jarreau [mailto:andre.jarr...@earthlink.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 3:21 PM
To: 'Greg Nickel'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

Yes, try Control-F and then shift tab into the attachments.  On my computer
it opens up the attachmentslist.

Andre

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 1:23 PM
To: 'Cy Selfridge'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'; 'George B'
Subject: RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

This is the protocol I use:  Shift+tab from body of email to attachment list
then arrow right.  It only reads 1 of the attachments and then it looses
focus.  

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Cy Selfridge
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:14 AM
To: 'George B'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

This is absolutely true with W7 64 bit, JAWS 14 and Office 2007. 
Works like a charm.
Cy t

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of George B via
Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 11:47 AM
To: 'Greg Nickel'; 'The Jaws for Windows support list.'
Subject: RE: reading attachment titles in outlook

From the body of the email,
Shift tab once and you are on the line with the attachements, Now just arrow
right and each attachement if titled will be red to you

-Original Message-
From: Jfw [mailto:jfw-boun...@lists.the-jdh.com] On Behalf Of Greg Nickel
via Jfw
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2014 10:32
To: Jfw@lists.the-jdh.com
Subject: reading attachment titles in outlook

Hello all.

Can anyone tell me why/how JAWS does not read more than the first
attachment

in outlook when more than one attachment is present?  

How do you get JAWS to read the titles of all attachments in an email

received in outlook?

I'm using JAWS 14 and Outlook 2010.

 

Thanks.

Greg

 

 

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Best system of back up

[Greg Nickel via Jfw]

Hello.

 

I am interested in creating aback up for my computer.  I am inclined to do
this using a cloud based back up because if I were to loose the external
drive I back up to or it were to be stolen or otherwise lost I would have no
means to replacing the data.  I am also interested in keeping my computer as
clean as possible since JAWS is not working very well for me at the moment.
I'm assuming its because I need to reinstall it or windows or both. 

 

I'm interested to know if any users have experience with any cloud storage
that functions well with JAWS.  Also, if there is an automatic back up
component that also works well with JAWS as part of the storage service. If
I were to reinstall windows is there a way to save JAWS settings for its
reinstall subsequently?

 

 

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