Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

2016-04-23 Thread Harry Ward 
Philip:

Again, many thanks.

I think I  understand enough now to stop bothering you on this subject. K9 
is set to 'leave the message on the server'. My computer Email program, on 
my primary computer, leaves that option unchecked. So I can get the Email 
on K9 first, and then when I retrieve it on my primary computer, it is 
deleted from the server.


Harry




On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 4:19:05 PM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse wrote:
>
> Ah it's a POP account... 
>
> That number is the number of unread emails. 
>
> Sent emails may be being stored in your sent folder by your provider. 
> Similarly emails deleted via a web client may be moved to Trash. But we 
> can't do that when you delete an email because POP doesn't support moving 
> emails I think. 
>
> And POP doesn't sync read email status either. So when we download it we 
> assume it's unread. 
>
> There's a reason we recommend using IMAP where available - it's much 
> better for managing email. 
>
>
>
>

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

2016-04-23 Thread Philip Whitehouse 
Ah it's a POP account... 

That number is the number of unread emails. 

Sent emails may be being stored in your sent folder by your provider. Similarly 
emails deleted via a web client may be moved to Trash. But we can't do that 
when you delete an email because POP doesn't support moving emails I think. 

And POP doesn't sync read email status either. So when we download it we assume 
it's unread. 

There's a reason we recommend using IMAP where available - it's much better for 
managing email. 


On April 23, 2016 9:10:45 PM GMT+01:00, Harry Ward  wrote:
>Philip:
>
>WOW, what rapid responses!
>
>I may have found the problem. 
>
>The first attachment is from your Documentation. All of the folder
>types 
>with arrows pointing to them say  these are not available for POP
>accounts, 
>which is what I have. And if you look at the 2nd attachment, you will
>see 
>that none of those noted as 'not available for POP' show here.
>
>But what is confusing is that Spent, Spam & Trash folders are in fact 
>present, as shown in my 3rd attachment. And more confusing, Spent &
>Trash 
>contain entries. Trash shows me that there are 6 there. Although there
>are 
>4 in Sent, no blue circle or number appears.
>
>So why does the Sent folder not indicate any file contents?
>
>Harry
>
>
>
>On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 1:02:37 PM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse
>wrote:
>>
>> If you go Account settings, Folder, is the Spam folder set to a real 
>> folder. 
>>
>> Can also you confirm the version you have installed. 
>>
>> On April 23, 2016 5:36:58 PM GMT+01:00, Harry Ward
>> > wrote: 
>> >Philip: 
>> > 
>> >The first attachment is what I see when I do a long tap on a
>message. 
>> >Spam 
>> >is not on the list. Only Delete. 
>> > 
>> >The second attachment is what I have checked in Visible Message 
>> >Actions. 
>> > 
>> >I was not clear what should be on the screen when I click the three 
>> >dots, 
>> >but the 3rd attachment is what the three dots show when I have an
>Inbox 
>> > 
>> >message open. 
>> > 
>> >So I need a little more of your expert advice. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> >Harry 
>> > 
>>
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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

2016-04-23 Thread Harry Ward 
Philip:

I forgot to indicate that I have K9 Version 5.010


Harry


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>
> Philip:
>
> WOW, what rapid responses!
>
> I may have found the problem. 
>
>
>

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Re: [k-9-mail] Using exported settings

2016-04-23 Thread Philip Whitehouse 
Instead of using the add account button, select Import/Export settings then 
Import settings from the overflow menu. 

You will still have to put in your password - we don't export that for security 
reasons. 



On April 23, 2016 8:59:13 PM GMT+01:00, Peter Holsberg  wrote:
>How does one use exported settings?
>
>I thought that if I exported the settings of an account and removed
>that
>account, that I could somehow import those settings when I recreated
>the
>account.
>
>K-9 still makes me create all the login info and doesn't appear to let
>me short-circuit that process by simply importing the old settings.
>
>Have I missed something?
>
>Thanks.
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[k-9-mail] Using exported settings

2016-04-23 Thread Peter Holsberg 
How does one use exported settings?

I thought that if I exported the settings of an account and removed that
account, that I could somehow import those settings when I recreated the
account.

K-9 still makes me create all the login info and doesn't appear to let
me short-circuit that process by simply importing the old settings.

Have I missed something?

Thanks.

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

2016-04-23 Thread Philip Whitehouse 
If you go Account settings, Folder, is the Spam folder set to a real folder.

Can also you confirm the version you have installed. 

On April 23, 2016 5:36:58 PM GMT+01:00, Harry Ward  wrote:
>Philip:
>
>The first attachment is what I see when I do a long tap on a message.
>Spam 
>is not on the list. Only Delete.
>
>The second attachment is what I have checked in Visible Message
>Actions.
>
>I was not clear what should be on the screen when I click the three
>dots, 
>but the 3rd attachment is what the three dots show when I have an Inbox
>
>message open.
>
>So I need a little more of your expert advice.
>
>
>Harry
>
>
>
>On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 8:46:20 AM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse
>wrote:
>>
>> Visible Message Actions customises the options available when a
>message is 
>> actually visible (hence the name), not in the list view.
>>
>> From the list view you can either long tap on a message and select
>Spam or 
>> you can enable the checkboxes and then click the three dots and then
>spam 
>> (or just the folder icon then the Spam folder from the list.
>>
>> We do not currently have customisation of the Selected Emails bottom 
>> action bar.
>>
>> I'm not sure we will get to customisation of this before the wider
>design 
>> overhaul.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, 23 April 2016 05:59:39 UTC+1, Harry Ward wrote:
>>>
>>> On my K9 on an Android 5.0.1 phone, no matter whether I select all
>5, or 
>>> none of the items under Visible Message Actions, I see the same
>buttons at 
>>> the bottom: Magnify, Sync, 3 horz bars (multiple options), Send an
>Email, 
>>> and the 3 vertical dots. Have I missed something somewhere?
>>>
>>> Harry
>>>
>>>
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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

2016-04-23 Thread Harry Ward 
Philip:

The first attachment is what I see when I do a long tap on a message. Spam 
is not on the list. Only Delete.

The second attachment is what I have checked in Visible Message Actions.

I was not clear what should be on the screen when I click the three dots, 
but the 3rd attachment is what the three dots show when I have an Inbox 
message open.

So I need a little more of your expert advice.


Harry



On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 8:46:20 AM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse wrote:
>
> Visible Message Actions customises the options available when a message is 
> actually visible (hence the name), not in the list view.
>
> From the list view you can either long tap on a message and select Spam or 
> you can enable the checkboxes and then click the three dots and then spam 
> (or just the folder icon then the Spam folder from the list.
>
> We do not currently have customisation of the Selected Emails bottom 
> action bar.
>
> I'm not sure we will get to customisation of this before the wider design 
> overhaul.
>
>
> On Saturday, 23 April 2016 05:59:39 UTC+1, Harry Ward wrote:
>>
>> On my K9 on an Android 5.0.1 phone, no matter whether I select all 5, or 
>> none of the items under Visible Message Actions, I see the same buttons at 
>> the bottom: Magnify, Sync, 3 horz bars (multiple options), Send an Email, 
>> and the 3 vertical dots. Have I missed something somewhere?
>>
>> Harry
>>
>>

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[k-9-mail] Re: Where does K9 store Email files

2016-04-23 Thread Harry Ward 
Philip:
Attached is what Miscellaneous is set to. But the title says the setting is 
only for Attachments to Emails. In any case, that folder is empty.

I have all my photos, music and documents stored on my external SD drive,  
as well as several apps including my browser, so I guess it is mapped 
correctly. 

So assuming that the K9 files are stored on the phone, what folder would 
they be stored it? And are they stored in a readable format?


Harry


On Saturday, April 23, 2016 at 8:48:18 AM UTC-4, Philip Whitehouse wrote:
>
> Global Settings -> Miscellaneous 
>
> As to whether it's possible to use the SD card - it may not be but to a 
> large extent it depends on how the SD card was mapped to storage by your 
> manufacturer.
>
> On Saturday, 23 April 2016 05:38:45 UTC+1, Harry Ward wrote:
>>
>> I have an LG model L33l with Android 5.0.1. I also have an external SD 
>> card that I added.
>>
>> This may seem like a stupid question, but I cannot find where K9 stores 
>> the files that are in my Inbox, Sent, Trash, etc. If I open Sent or Trash 
>> folders in K9, I  can see the files. But using my Explorer program (I use 
>> X-plore) I cannot find them. Can you tell me where they are located, and if 
>> I can specify their location? I would like to store them on my external SD 
>> card, but reading some of the threads here, that does not seem to be 
>> currently possible.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>

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[k-9-mail] Re: Out dated alerts

2016-04-23 Thread Philip Whitehouse 
We've re-worked the notifications system on the dev/5.1x branch to support 
stuff for Google Wear.

I'm expecting this is fixed there because I've not seen this happen.

It should be in the next major release.

- Philip

On Thursday, 21 April 2016 13:34:39 UTC+1, Pete Sleeman wrote:
>
> I'm running ver 5.010
> For some time now several versions back I mean...I get notifications of 
> emails that are old...seemingly random ones are picked from my inbox.  Time 
> trigger seems correct but date trigger looks broken.  For example I had an 
> old email pop up that was @ 13:21 from 2 weeks back and that popped up like 
> a new mail today at 13:21.  Very confusing.  I even accidentally replied to 
> one the other day...the recipient must have thought I'd lost the plot!

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Re: [k-9-mail] Re: K9 IMAP bug or different IMAP version? (logs included)

2016-04-23 Thread Philip Whitehouse 
Ok right looked at this properly.

I misread the spec a bit:

The thing at fault is the server. For Thunderbird it happens to do the 
right thing:

UID SEARCH a:b

This says I want all the UIDs between sequence number a and sequence number 
b. 

SEARCH UID a:b

This says I want all the sequence numbers between UID a and UID b.

We are sending the first one. Your server is interpreting it as the second 
one.

Your server has a bug. It's not a bug in K-9 & Gmail. 

Thunderbird only gets the right response because it wants all the messages 
(from sequence number 1 onwards).

Either update or reach out to your email server provider. If this was 
broken, every IMAP user would have issues and that's just not the case.

- Philip


On Friday, 22 April 2016 08:35:25 UTC+1, Philip Whitehouse wrote:
>
> Thunderbird doesn't really do the same thing here. Whether it's because it 
> had never been synchronised before or because their IMAP implementation is 
> poorly optimized I'm not sure. It just fetches all the emails (1:*) 
>
> We have received mails already so we start from 63. Clearly we are 
> mistaking the email count for the next valid UID, which is terrible 
> behaviour. 
>
> What amazes me is Gmail does the same. 
>
> It's possible that to implement IMAP with other mail servers they imported 
> the IMAP code from the original AOSP app. But this should break everywhere, 
> the number of emails will almost never be the next valid UID except if you 
> never move or delete an email. 
>
> I will try and check the source code to see if this is what the code 
> actually says we are doing and whether we have fixed it in master. 
>
> The only thing that I can think of right now is that both Gmail and we are 
> expecting you to list some capability which you are not. But from the spec 
> I can't see this as being the case. 
>
> Any thoughts cketti? 
>
>
>
> On April 22, 2016 7:24:20 AM GMT+01:00, Joa H  
> wrote: 
> >A little too fast on the trigger there (the only time I think fast is 
> >when 
> >I jump to conclusion). Gmail does not display all messages in the 
> >inbox- 
> >When refreshing it does the same as the other apps for the same reason. 
> > 
> >When opening Settings->Accounts and manually synching, it first synchs 
> >messages up to UID = #existing mails (as usual) and then specifically 
> >fetches messages "SINCE 2019-04-21" (= yesterday). So I see the most 
> >recent 
> >mail, which is what deceived me. 
> > 
> >Sorry about the fragmented narrative. 
> > 
> >Questions: 
> >Since the problem didn't arise until Android 6, and then for all apps, 
> >could it be that the apps use a common IMAP protocol stack (provided by 
> > 
> >Android 6)? 
> >If so, is the problem with Android or my server? 
> > 
> >BR, 
> >Joa 
> > 
> > 
> >Den torsdag 21 april 2016 kl. 09:35:34 UTC+2 skrev Joa H: 
> >> 
> >> When K9 connects to my IMAP server the most recent messages are not 
> >> displayed. The reason can be seen in the below log (from the server). 
> >> 
> >> This is my interpretation, but I'm no IMAP expert. 
> >> Note the four bold lines: In the first of these the server says that 
> >there 
> >> are 112 messages. In the second it says that the next message is 
> >predicted 
> >> to have UID 272, so the most recent UID should be 271. In the third 
> >one K9 
> >> asks which messages between UID 63 and 112 are not deleted. In the 
> >third 
> >> line K9 asks for these messages. All messages in the UID range 113 to 
> >271 
> >> are omitted, which is obviously wrong. K9 treats the number of 
> >existing 
> >> messages as the greates UID. 
> >> 
> >> Thunderbird on my laptop handles this correctly (see second log 
> >below) by 
> >> asking for all messages to be fetched. Notable there is that the 
> >largest 
> >> UID is 271. 
> >> 
> >> Setting the "local folder size" (translation) of K9 to "all 
> >messages", as 
> >> opposed to the default 25, does not remedy the problem. 
> >> I have a Sony Xperia Z5 running Android 6.0 and K9 5.010. I didn't 
> >have 
> >> this problem before updating to Marshmallow. 
> >> 
> >> Who's at fault here, K9 or my server (or me)? 
> >> Greatful for any help. 
> >> Joa 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 2016-04-21 08:21:39,429 -  - [ 690] ** New Connection 
> > 
> >> from: x.x.x.x** 
> >> 2016-04-21 08:21:39,430 -  - [ 690] S <-- * OK Synametrics 
> >IMAP4rev1 
> >> server ready 4/21/16 8:21 AM 
> >> 2016-04-21 08:21:39,546 -  - [ 690] C --> 1 CAPABILITY 
> >> 2016-04-21 08:21:39,547 -  - [ 690] S <-- * CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 
> >IDLE 
> >> 2016-04-21 08:21:39,547 -  - [ 690] S <-- 1 OK CAPABILITY 
> >completed 
> >> 2016-04-21 08:21:39,550 -  - [ 690] C --> 2 LOGIN "x@x.x" xx 
> >> 2016-04-21 08:21:39,550 -  - [ 690] S <-- 2 OK LOGIN completed 
> >> 2016-04-21 08:21:39,554 -  - [ 690] C --> 3 SELECT "INBOX" 
> >> 2016-04-21 08:21:39,605 -  - [ 690] S <-- * FLAGS (\Answered 
> >\Flagged 
> >> \Deleted \Seen \Draft) 
> >>

[k-9-mail] Re: Building Problems

2016-04-23 Thread Philip Whitehouse 
This is more suited to the developer 
list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/k-9-dev

But I recommend the following:

1. When developing checkout the master branch, not a release.
2. Ensure you have downloaded the latest versions of the support libraries 
and SDKs. You need the later SDKs to compile the code even if your phone 
itself doesn't support them.

Philip

On Saturday, 23 April 2016 04:35:56 UTC+1, Ramanndika Pranamulia wrote:
>
> Hey guys I am trying to build K9 mails and always found this kind of 
> errors "Binary XML file line #16: cc". I have tried every version of K9 
> released but always having that problem. I am using android studio 2.0, jdk 
> 8, and my phone's android os is API 19. Any response will be apreciated
>
> Thanks Guys
>

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[k-9-mail] Re: Where does K9 store Email files

2016-04-23 Thread Philip Whitehouse 
Global Settings -> Miscellaneous 

As to whether it's possible to use the SD card - it may not be but to a 
large extent it depends on how the SD card was mapped to storage by your 
manufacturer.

On Saturday, 23 April 2016 05:38:45 UTC+1, Harry Ward wrote:
>
> I have an LG model L33l with Android 5.0.1. I also have an external SD 
> card that I added.
>
> This may seem like a stupid question, but I cannot find where K9 stores 
> the files that are in my Inbox, Sent, Trash, etc. If I open Sent or Trash 
> folders in K9, I  can see the files. But using my Explorer program (I use 
> X-plore) I cannot find them. Can you tell me where they are located, and if 
> I can specify their location? I would like to store them on my external SD 
> card, but reading some of the threads here, that does not seem to be 
> currently possible.
>
> Harry
>

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Re: [k-9-mail] Feature request spam button

2016-04-23 Thread Philip Whitehouse 
Visible Message Actions customises the options available when a message is 
actually visible (hence the name), not in the list view.

>From the list view you can either long tap on a message and select Spam or 
you can enable the checkboxes and then click the three dots and then spam 
(or just the folder icon then the Spam folder from the list.

We do not currently have customisation of the Selected Emails bottom action 
bar.

I'm not sure we will get to customisation of this before the wider design 
overhaul.


On Saturday, 23 April 2016 05:59:39 UTC+1, Harry Ward wrote:
>
> On my K9 on an Android 5.0.1 phone, no matter whether I select all 5, or 
> none of the items under Visible Message Actions, I see the same buttons at 
> the bottom: Magnify, Sync, 3 horz bars (multiple options), Send an Email, 
> and the 3 vertical dots. Have I missed something somewhere?
>
> Harry
>
>
> On Friday, March 11, 2016 at 11:39:13 AM UTC-5, Ola Thoresen wrote:
>>
>> I agree that the Show Delete Button does not fit there. 
>> But I also think what you are looking for is under Global settings - 
>> Display - Visible Message Actions (sorry, I don't know the german 
>> translation, but it is almost at the bottom of the "Display" menu).
>>
>> There you can select which buttons should be visible below each message. 
>>
>> Rgds 
>>
>> Ola (T) 
>>
>>
>>

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