Re: auto-comment on bugzilla when making an MR?

2020-05-20 Thread Nicolás Alvarez
El mié., 20 de may. de 2020 a la(s) 18:30, Filipe Saraiva
(fil...@kde.org) escribió:
>
> Em 20/05/2020 12:37, Nate Graham escreveu:
> > On 5/20/20 6:50 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
> >> On woensdag 20 mei 2020 14:33:42 CEST Filipe Saraiva wrote:
> >>> I like the idea, but I hope in future we use Gitlab issues as our tool
> >>> for bug management. :)
> >>
> >> This has been discussed to death before... The plan is to use the issues 
> >> to replace phabricator's tasks, not bugzilla.
> >
> > I'm pretty sure that migrating from Bugzilla to GitLab Issues will
> > happen eventually. GitLab Issues has a radically better UI for bug
> > reporting and its improved integration with the rest of GitLab will be a
> > really nice thing to have. Centralizing everything in GitLab would bring
> > real benefits.
> >
> > Speaking as an extensive bug triager, if it does indeed represent a
> > downgrade in terms of organization and workflow, then we will engage
> > with the GitLab people to get the issues fixed. They are pretty
> > responsive, and it's better than using a dead, unmaintained version of a
> > stagnant product.
> >
>
> Sure, in addition this adoption will provide all of these automation we
> need to implement to work in different tools, will be less work to
> sysadmin team in order to maintain an old product, and more.
>
> In fact, thinking about "KDE is all about apps" objective, the adoption
> of Gitlab issues for bug management is a interesting step. It will allow
> the community of a specific project work in more productive way than use
> a different tool for that task.
>
> But well, maybe it is a discussion for the future.
>

It's a discussion for months or years in the future. Please, we didn't
even finish with this migration.

-- 
Nicolás


Re: auto-comment on bugzilla when making an MR?

2020-05-20 Thread Filipe Saraiva
Em 20/05/2020 12:37, Nate Graham escreveu:
> On 5/20/20 6:50 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
>> On woensdag 20 mei 2020 14:33:42 CEST Filipe Saraiva wrote:
>>> I like the idea, but I hope in future we use Gitlab issues as our tool
>>> for bug management. :)
>>
>> This has been discussed to death before... The plan is to use the issues to 
>> replace phabricator's tasks, not bugzilla.
> 
> I'm pretty sure that migrating from Bugzilla to GitLab Issues will 
> happen eventually. GitLab Issues has a radically better UI for bug 
> reporting and its improved integration with the rest of GitLab will be a 
> really nice thing to have. Centralizing everything in GitLab would bring 
> real benefits.
> 
> Speaking as an extensive bug triager, if it does indeed represent a 
> downgrade in terms of organization and workflow, then we will engage 
> with the GitLab people to get the issues fixed. They are pretty 
> responsive, and it's better than using a dead, unmaintained version of a 
> stagnant product.
> 

Sure, in addition this adoption will provide all of these automation we
need to implement to work in different tools, will be less work to
sysadmin team in order to maintain an old product, and more.

In fact, thinking about "KDE is all about apps" objective, the adoption
of Gitlab issues for bug management is a interesting step. It will allow
the community of a specific project work in more productive way than use
a different tool for that task.

But well, maybe it is a discussion for the future.

Best regards;

-- 
Filipe Saraiva
http://filipesaraiva.info/


Re: auto-comment on bugzilla when making an MR?

2020-05-20 Thread Nate Graham

On 5/20/20 9:44 AM, Luigi Toscano wrote:

Speaking as an extensive bug triager, if it does indeed represent a downgrade
in terms of organization and workflow, then we will engage with the GitLab
people to get the issues fixed. They are pretty responsive, and it's better
than using a dead, unmaintained version of a stagnant product.


This process will require time for sure, and some of the changes may not be
applied at all as not in line with the general way the system works (and also
the our internal changes to support it).

In the meantime, having the MR published in a bugzilla comment, and any other
integration mechanism, is surely welcome.


For sure!

I'm just saying, we shouldn't expect or plan to never move to GitLab 
issues. The proposal in this thread is just one of many things that we'd 
get for free if we were using it. The pressure to migrate will only grow 
over time.


Nate


Re: auto-comment on bugzilla when making an MR?

2020-05-20 Thread Luigi Toscano
Nate Graham ha scritto:
> On 5/20/20 6:50 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
>> On woensdag 20 mei 2020 14:33:42 CEST Filipe Saraiva wrote:
>>> I like the idea, but I hope in future we use Gitlab issues as our tool
>>> for bug management. :)
>>
>> This has been discussed to death before... The plan is to use the issues to
>> replace phabricator's tasks, not bugzilla.
> 
> I'm pretty sure that migrating from Bugzilla to GitLab Issues will happen
> eventually. GitLab Issues has a radically better UI for bug reporting and its
> improved integration with the rest of GitLab will be a really nice thing to
> have. Centralizing everything in GitLab would bring real benefits
It's all about the right level of integration.

> 
> Speaking as an extensive bug triager, if it does indeed represent a downgrade
> in terms of organization and workflow, then we will engage with the GitLab
> people to get the issues fixed. They are pretty responsive, and it's better
> than using a dead, unmaintained version of a stagnant product.

This process will require time for sure, and some of the changes may not be
applied at all as not in line with the general way the system works (and also
the our internal changes to support it).

In the meantime, having the MR published in a bugzilla comment, and any other
integration mechanism, is surely welcome.

-- 
Luigi


Re: auto-comment on bugzilla when making an MR?

2020-05-20 Thread Luigi Toscano
Nate Graham ha scritto:
> On 5/20/20 6:50 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
>> On woensdag 20 mei 2020 14:33:42 CEST Filipe Saraiva wrote:
>>> I like the idea, but I hope in future we use Gitlab issues as our tool
>>> for bug management. :)
>>
>> This has been discussed to death before... The plan is to use the issues to
>> replace phabricator's tasks, not bugzilla.
> 
> I'm pretty sure that migrating from Bugzilla to GitLab Issues will happen
> eventually. GitLab Issues has a radically better UI for bug reporting and its
> improved integration with the rest of GitLab will be a really nice thing to
> have. Centralizing everything in GitLab would bring real benefits
It's all about the right level of integration.

> 
> Speaking as an extensive bug triager, if it does indeed represent a downgrade
> in terms of organization and workflow, then we will engage with the GitLab
> people to get the issues fixed. They are pretty responsive, and it's better
> than using a dead, unmaintained version of a stagnant product.

This process will require time for sure, and some of the changes may not be
applied at all as not in line with the general way the system works (and also
the our internal changes to support it).

In the meantime, having the MR published in a bugzilla comment, and any other
integration mechanism, is surely welcome.

-- 
Luigi


Re: auto-comment on bugzilla when making an MR?

2020-05-20 Thread Nate Graham

On 5/20/20 6:50 AM, Boudewijn Rempt wrote:

On woensdag 20 mei 2020 14:33:42 CEST Filipe Saraiva wrote:

I like the idea, but I hope in future we use Gitlab issues as our tool
for bug management. :)


This has been discussed to death before... The plan is to use the issues to 
replace phabricator's tasks, not bugzilla.


I'm pretty sure that migrating from Bugzilla to GitLab Issues will 
happen eventually. GitLab Issues has a radically better UI for bug 
reporting and its improved integration with the rest of GitLab will be a 
really nice thing to have. Centralizing everything in GitLab would bring 
real benefits.


Speaking as an extensive bug triager, if it does indeed represent a 
downgrade in terms of organization and workflow, then we will engage 
with the GitLab people to get the issues fixed. They are pretty 
responsive, and it's better than using a dead, unmaintained version of a 
stagnant product.


Nate


Re: auto-comment on bugzilla when making an MR?

2020-05-20 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
On woensdag 20 mei 2020 14:33:42 CEST Filipe Saraiva wrote:
> I like the idea, but I hope in future we use Gitlab issues as our tool
> for bug management. :)

This has been discussed to death before... The plan is to use the issues to 
replace phabricator's tasks, not bugzilla. 

-- 
https://www.krita.org




Re: auto-comment on bugzilla when making an MR?

2020-05-20 Thread Filipe Saraiva
I like the idea, but I hope in future we use Gitlab issues as our tool
for bug management. :)

Em 20/05/2020 07:13, Harald Sitter escreveu:
> Salut!
> 
> Does anyone think it'd be a worthwhile investment to have some piece
> of tech automatically comment on bug reports when someone posts an MR
> on invent?
> 
> I pretty much never bother posting comments with the MR but at the
> same time I know that at least the Plasma team decided to actively use
> the Assigned state for bugs.
> So I was thinking that it'd perhaps make sense to have automatism in
> place that makes sure MRs get referenced in their related bug report
> and that the bug is switched into assigned state since it is clearly
> being worked on.
> Should the MR fall by the wayside for whatever reason a future dev who
> happens upon the bug report can at least look up the MR and move it
> forward. And using the Assigned state in general seems smart to
> prevent multiple people from working on the same thing.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> HS
> 

-- 
Filipe Saraiva
http://filipesaraiva.info/


Re: auto-comment on bugzilla when making an MR?

2020-05-20 Thread Aleix Pol
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 12:13 PM Harald Sitter  wrote:
>
> Salut!
>
> Does anyone think it'd be a worthwhile investment to have some piece
> of tech automatically comment on bug reports when someone posts an MR
> on invent?
>
> I pretty much never bother posting comments with the MR but at the
> same time I know that at least the Plasma team decided to actively use
> the Assigned state for bugs.
> So I was thinking that it'd perhaps make sense to have automatism in
> place that makes sure MRs get referenced in their related bug report
> and that the bug is switched into assigned state since it is clearly
> being worked on.
> Should the MR fall by the wayside for whatever reason a future dev who
> happens upon the bug report can at least look up the MR and move it
> forward. And using the Assigned state in general seems smart to
> prevent multiple people from working on the same thing.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> HS

+1 sounds like a good idea!

Like Kai I also try to inform bugs, but I sometimes forget.

Aleix


Re: auto-comment on bugzilla when making an MR?

2020-05-20 Thread Boudewijn Rempt
I think bug reporters would like this a lot, as they are then informed that 
their issue is being worked on. And it would be convenient for the people 
managing the bugs for a certain product as well.

On woensdag 20 mei 2020 12:13:18 CEST Harald Sitter wrote:
> Salut!
> 
> Does anyone think it'd be a worthwhile investment to have some piece
> of tech automatically comment on bug reports when someone posts an MR
> on invent?
> 
> I pretty much never bother posting comments with the MR but at the
> same time I know that at least the Plasma team decided to actively use
> the Assigned state for bugs.
> So I was thinking that it'd perhaps make sense to have automatism in
> place that makes sure MRs get referenced in their related bug report
> and that the bug is switched into assigned state since it is clearly
> being worked on.
> Should the MR fall by the wayside for whatever reason a future dev who
> happens upon the bug report can at least look up the MR and move it
> forward. And using the Assigned state in general seems smart to
> prevent multiple people from working on the same thing.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> HS
> 


-- 
https://www.krita.org




auto-comment on bugzilla when making an MR?

2020-05-20 Thread Harald Sitter
Salut!

Does anyone think it'd be a worthwhile investment to have some piece
of tech automatically comment on bug reports when someone posts an MR
on invent?

I pretty much never bother posting comments with the MR but at the
same time I know that at least the Plasma team decided to actively use
the Assigned state for bugs.
So I was thinking that it'd perhaps make sense to have automatism in
place that makes sure MRs get referenced in their related bug report
and that the bug is switched into assigned state since it is clearly
being worked on.
Should the MR fall by the wayside for whatever reason a future dev who
happens upon the bug report can at least look up the MR and move it
forward. And using the Assigned state in general seems smart to
prevent multiple people from working on the same thing.

Thoughts?

HS