Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On Friday 24 January 2014 20:33:14 Valentin Rusu wrote: On Saturday, January 25, 2014 01:49:51 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: On 01/24/2014 09:21 AM, Alex Merry wrote: On 23/01/14 21:50, Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:18:02 PM Michael Palimaka wrote: On 01/23/2014 08:21 AM, Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Sure, the framework itself is still tier 2...but the repo also includes kwalletd which definitely is not tier 2, and there does not appear to be any option to control building them independently. I'll add that option asap. Is that useful? Would anyone have any use for the library without the daemon? Once, David F. told on this mailing list that such an option would let an Qt application compile against KF5Walllet. The daemon is a runtime dependency. I can't remember if I said that, and if so what I had in mind. Compiling against a crippled framework and then missing the daemon for it to work at runtime sounds a bit strange. -- David Faure, fa...@kde.org, http://www.davidfaure.fr Working on KDE, in particular KDE Frameworks 5 ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:18:02 PM Michael Palimaka wrote: On 01/23/2014 08:21 AM, Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Sure, the framework itself is still tier 2...but the repo also includes kwalletd which definitely is not tier 2, and there does not appear to be any option to control building them independently. It's now possible to do a build without kwalletd and the associated tests by defining KF5_KWALLET_NO_DAEMON when invoking cmake. -- Valentin Rusu irc: valir signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On 01/25/2014 08:19 AM, Valentin Rusu wrote: On Friday, January 24, 2014 07:22:22 AM Kevin Ottens wrote: On Thursday 23 January 2014 22:47:45 Valentin Rusu wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:48:00 PM Kevin Ottens wrote: On Wednesday 22 January 2014 22:21:47 Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Hi, attica seems to have been absorbed as a framework, but does not appear to have been assigned a tier. Based on its dependencies, it looks like it would fit in tier 1? kwallet is in tier 2, but since b60582640d99e0ef603bf4e02df974793fb5ad27 it includes kwalletd which depends on higher tier frameworks - does it still belong in tier 2? kwallet-framework is still tier2, as there are no higher dependencies, AFAIK. If it depends on anything else which is not in Qt or tier 1, it automatically becomes tier 3. It can't depend on anything which is tier 2. OK, then it's tier3 :-) Please make sure http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/List is up to date then. Done. Also updated kde-build-metadata (minor change). kwallet-framework.yaml in the repo will need updating too. :-) ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On 01/24/2014 09:21 AM, Alex Merry wrote: On 23/01/14 21:50, Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:18:02 PM Michael Palimaka wrote: On 01/23/2014 08:21 AM, Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Sure, the framework itself is still tier 2...but the repo also includes kwalletd which definitely is not tier 2, and there does not appear to be any option to control building them independently. I'll add that option asap. Is that useful? Would anyone have any use for the library without the daemon? Alex Same question but in a different way - is the daemon intended to be part of the framework, or is just happening to share the repository? ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On Saturday, January 25, 2014 01:49:51 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: On 01/24/2014 09:21 AM, Alex Merry wrote: On 23/01/14 21:50, Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:18:02 PM Michael Palimaka wrote: On 01/23/2014 08:21 AM, Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Sure, the framework itself is still tier 2...but the repo also includes kwalletd which definitely is not tier 2, and there does not appear to be any option to control building them independently. I'll add that option asap. Is that useful? Would anyone have any use for the library without the daemon? Once, David F. told on this mailing list that such an option would let an Qt application compile against KF5Walllet. The daemon is a runtime dependency. Alex Same question but in a different way - is the daemon intended to be part of the framework, or is just happening to share the repository? Yes, the daemon is intented to be part of the framework. As the KWallet API won't work without that daemon. -- Valentin Rusu irc: valir signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On Friday, January 24, 2014 07:22:22 AM Kevin Ottens wrote: On Thursday 23 January 2014 22:47:45 Valentin Rusu wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:48:00 PM Kevin Ottens wrote: On Wednesday 22 January 2014 22:21:47 Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Hi, attica seems to have been absorbed as a framework, but does not appear to have been assigned a tier. Based on its dependencies, it looks like it would fit in tier 1? kwallet is in tier 2, but since b60582640d99e0ef603bf4e02df974793fb5ad27 it includes kwalletd which depends on higher tier frameworks - does it still belong in tier 2? kwallet-framework is still tier2, as there are no higher dependencies, AFAIK. If it depends on anything else which is not in Qt or tier 1, it automatically becomes tier 3. It can't depend on anything which is tier 2. OK, then it's tier3 :-) Please make sure http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/List is up to date then. Done. Also updated kde-build-metadata (minor change). Cheers. -- Valentin Rusu irc: valir signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On 01/23/2014 08:21 AM, Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Hi, attica seems to have been absorbed as a framework, but does not appear to have been assigned a tier. Based on its dependencies, it looks like it would fit in tier 1? kwallet is in tier 2, but since b60582640d99e0ef603bf4e02df974793fb5ad27 it includes kwalletd which depends on higher tier frameworks - does it still belong in tier 2? kwallet-framework is still tier2, as there are no higher dependencies, AFAIK. Sure, the framework itself is still tier 2...but the repo also includes kwalletd which definitely is not tier 2, and there does not appear to be any option to control building them independently. ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:48:00 PM Kevin Ottens wrote: On Wednesday 22 January 2014 22:21:47 Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Hi, attica seems to have been absorbed as a framework, but does not appear to have been assigned a tier. Based on its dependencies, it looks like it would fit in tier 1? kwallet is in tier 2, but since b60582640d99e0ef603bf4e02df974793fb5ad27 it includes kwalletd which depends on higher tier frameworks - does it still belong in tier 2? kwallet-framework is still tier2, as there are no higher dependencies, AFAIK. If it depends on anything else which is not in Qt or tier 1, it automatically becomes tier 3. It can't depend on anything which is tier 2. OK, then it's tier3 :-) Regards. -- Valentin Rusu irc: valir signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:18:02 PM Michael Palimaka wrote: On 01/23/2014 08:21 AM, Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Sure, the framework itself is still tier 2...but the repo also includes kwalletd which definitely is not tier 2, and there does not appear to be any option to control building them independently. I'll add that option asap. -- Valentin Rusu irc: valir signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On 23/01/14 21:50, Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 11:18:02 PM Michael Palimaka wrote: On 01/23/2014 08:21 AM, Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Sure, the framework itself is still tier 2...but the repo also includes kwalletd which definitely is not tier 2, and there does not appear to be any option to control building them independently. I'll add that option asap. Is that useful? Would anyone have any use for the library without the daemon? Alex ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On Thursday 23 January 2014 22:47:45 Valentin Rusu wrote: On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:48:00 PM Kevin Ottens wrote: On Wednesday 22 January 2014 22:21:47 Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Hi, attica seems to have been absorbed as a framework, but does not appear to have been assigned a tier. Based on its dependencies, it looks like it would fit in tier 1? kwallet is in tier 2, but since b60582640d99e0ef603bf4e02df974793fb5ad27 it includes kwalletd which depends on higher tier frameworks - does it still belong in tier 2? kwallet-framework is still tier2, as there are no higher dependencies, AFAIK. If it depends on anything else which is not in Qt or tier 1, it automatically becomes tier 3. It can't depend on anything which is tier 2. OK, then it's tier3 :-) Please make sure http://community.kde.org/Frameworks/List is up to date then. Cheers. -- Kévin Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net KDAB - proud supporter of KDE, http://www.kdab.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 04:24:37AM +1100, Michael Palimaka wrote: attica seems to have been absorbed as a framework, but does not appear to have been assigned a tier. Based on its dependencies, it looks like it would fit in tier 1? The library was renamed to KF5Attica in the expectation it could be a framework but I'd appreciate someone more knowledgeable giving it an eye over to work out if anything else needs to be done to make it a framework. kwallet is in tier 2, but since b60582640d99e0ef603bf4e02df974793fb5ad27 it includes kwalletd which depends on higher tier frameworks - does it still belong in tier 2? Another possibility would be to move kwalletd into a separate git repository but I guess nobody is likely to use the library without the daemon so tier 3 seems more sensible. What needs looked at there is to match up the renamed dbus interface in the daemon with the interface used by the library. I don't think the rename was necessary but it does need the dbus interface file renamed, I've submitted a patch for that to review on reviewboard. Jonathan ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On Wednesday, 2014-01-22, 17:35:50, Jonathan Riddell wrote: On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 04:24:37AM +1100, Michael Palimaka wrote: attica seems to have been absorbed as a framework, but does not appear to have been assigned a tier. Based on its dependencies, it looks like it would fit in tier 1? The library was renamed to KF5Attica in the expectation it could be a framework but I'd appreciate someone more knowledgeable giving it an eye over to work out if anything else needs to be done to make it a framework. kwallet is in tier 2, but since b60582640d99e0ef603bf4e02df974793fb5ad27 it includes kwalletd which depends on higher tier frameworks - does it still belong in tier 2? Another possibility would be to move kwalletd into a separate git repository but I guess nobody is likely to use the library without the daemon so tier 3 seems more sensible. I guess it mostly depends on whether KF wallet is tied to kwalletd or is a client library for any spec conformant secret service. In the first case there is no point in stripping it out, in the second case it might be viable. I have to admit I totally lost the overview over the state of transition to secret service, so that might be another unrelated framework. Cheers, Kevin -- Kevin Krammer, KDE developer, xdg-utils developer KDE user support, developer mentoring signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Hi, attica seems to have been absorbed as a framework, but does not appear to have been assigned a tier. Based on its dependencies, it looks like it would fit in tier 1? kwallet is in tier 2, but since b60582640d99e0ef603bf4e02df974793fb5ad27 it includes kwalletd which depends on higher tier frameworks - does it still belong in tier 2? kwallet-framework is still tier2, as there are no higher dependencies, AFAIK. -- Valentin Rusu irc: valir ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
Re: Tier status of attica kwallet
On Wednesday 22 January 2014 22:21:47 Valentin Rusu wrote: On Thursday, January 23, 2014 04:24:37 AM Michael Palimaka wrote: Hi, attica seems to have been absorbed as a framework, but does not appear to have been assigned a tier. Based on its dependencies, it looks like it would fit in tier 1? kwallet is in tier 2, but since b60582640d99e0ef603bf4e02df974793fb5ad27 it includes kwalletd which depends on higher tier frameworks - does it still belong in tier 2? kwallet-framework is still tier2, as there are no higher dependencies, AFAIK. If it depends on anything else which is not in Qt or tier 1, it automatically becomes tier 3. It can't depend on anything which is tier 2. Regards. -- Kévin Ottens, http://ervin.ipsquad.net KDAB - proud supporter of KDE, http://www.kdab.com signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Kde-frameworks-devel mailing list Kde-frameworks-devel@kde.org https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-frameworks-devel
