KR> battery charger

[George Bearden]

Since it is all made in China anyway, might as well get the 1 amp trickle
charger from harbor Freight for $6 on sale. Gets the job done just as well.

GeoB

KR> battery charger

[George Bearden]

I work in an IT dept, and sometimes the old batteries get passed around. I
think that many of them will have life left even if they don't perform. I
think many of them need de-sulfating. I have a couple desulfator devices and
have saved MANY times the price of them saving batteries. Friend brought
over a $279 Yellow Top, new, old-stock. Has been sitting fer a coupla years,
dead flat. It wouldn't take a charge at all no way. I put the desulfator on
there, powered by my 100 watts of solar on my 5th wheel. Doesn't cost me
nuthin. I left it on there a month, and returned it functioning like new. My
niece has a motorcycle shop. The mechanics never seem to have time to keep
alla the batteries charged, so they lose a lot. I went out to the recycle
bin, gathered up a coupla hunert pounds of them and restored them for her.
Dint cost me anything in electricity either.

-Original Message-
From: bobby burington [mailto:bobbycrea...@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 12:28 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> battery charger

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Oscar Zuniga  wrote:
> Question for you electronics types.  One of our office UPSs died and I 
> snagged it on its way out to the trash.



Hi Oscar,

Yes it will make a trickle charger for any size battery.

I have salvaged several of the UPS units you are talking about. Generally
its not the batteries that go bad and you can put thoes small batteries on a
regular 12 volt charger and recharge them. Normally for me its been the
circut board that goes bad from power surges or whatever. Sometimes you will
find a small fuse soldered somewhere on the power supply board or power
supply side of the main board. If you can solder in a new fuse you might be
in business. 

These are not only a trickle charger for batteries but the supply from the
batteries is a 12 volt to 110 converter for the duplex outlets. I took one
of the units apart, disconnected the wires from the batteries and then
connected it back up to the battery in my truck. Leaving the circut boards
and 110 outlets intact. Made a great 110 converter for my truck. I have been
thinking this arrangement would also give me a really cheap way to put a 110
outlet on the panel or somewhere in the KR that I could plug in a laptop or
other type equipment if I needed to and the weight is small ounces.

Bobby Burington
California KR2 Builder

KR> battery charger

[Jeff Scott]

One could certainly do that.  But why?  A quick look on line and I found wall 
wart type trickle chargers for as little as $16.  Then you have something that 
is sealed, electrically safe, and probably has a UL listing rather than using 
something in a way it wasn't intended to be used.

Take the UPS, replace the batteries in it, and use it to protect your new HD 
TV, home computer, or some other electronic toy??

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


-- Oscar Zuniga  wrote:

Question for you electronics types.  One of our office UPSs died and I snagged 
it on its way out to the trash.  Opening it up, I see that it's quite easy to 
replace the two sealed 7Ah, 12V batteries and put it back online again.  
However, it occurred to me that it might also be just fine to use as a trickle 
charger for any 12V battery of this type, if I replace the internal battery 
leads with some longer ones with alligator or battery-type clamps.  Wouldn't 
this work OK?

These small desktop PC style UPSs get tossed out all the time and if they 
didn't die due to taking a surge on one or more of the MOVs, it would seem that 
they would make dandy chargers.  Comments?Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
___
Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html


Cheap Diet Help Tips. Click here.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw3Eg7Ell3qg7kfXMxCooPCFV2QgT5VQAj4PI8rN4E7USd9OQ/

KR> Near Miss

[Phillip Matheson]

I got up early to get a flight in before the winds started up again, but 
visibility is down to a few 100 yards form smoke.

We guys  are still lucky here not to be in the road of the dam fires in 
Victoria, many were lit by fire bugs, now something like 173 + dead, but 
early yesterday they was a VERY VERY load clap of thunder, it felt like the 
windows were going to blow in, I found out latter it hit a tree 100 yards 
from my hanger, one a mile from my home, where my KR and Serge's Zenith are 
stored. The tree was set on fire, but the very strong wing was blowing away 
from the hanger, the Fire Brigade got it out with any problems.


Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch. 20  http://www.saaa20.org/
VH-PKR
Australia

EMAIL:   phillipmathe...@bigpond.com
KR Web Page: www.philskr2.50megs.com


---
Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html 

KR> battery charger

[bobby burington]

--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Oscar Zuniga  wrote:
> Question for you electronics types.  One of our office UPSs
> died and I snagged it on its way out to the trash. 



Hi Oscar,

Yes it will make a trickle charger for any size battery.

I have salvaged several of the UPS units you are talking about. Generally its 
not the batteries that go bad and you can put thoes small batteries on a 
regular 12 volt charger and recharge them. Normally for me its been the circut 
board that goes bad from power surges or whatever. Sometimes you will find a 
small fuse soldered somewhere on the power supply board or power supply side of 
the main board. If you can solder in a new fuse you might be in business. 

These are not only a trickle charger for batteries but the supply from the 
batteries is a 12 volt to 110 converter for the duplex outlets. I took one of 
the units apart, disconnected the wires from the batteries and then connected 
it back up to the battery in my truck. Leaving the circut boards and 110 
outlets intact. Made a great 110 converter for my truck. I have been thinking 
this arrangement would also give me a really cheap way to put a 110 outlet on 
the panel or somewhere in the KR that I could plug in a laptop or other type 
equipment if I needed to and the weight is small ounces.

Bobby Burington
California KR2 Builder

KR> battery charger

[Glenn Martin]

Oscar Zuniga wrote:
> Question for you electronics types.  One of our office UPSs died and I 
> snagged it on its way out to the trash.  Opening it up, I see that it's quite 
> easy to replace the two sealed 7Ah, 12V batteries and put it back online 
> again.  However, it occurred to me that it might also be just fine to use as 
> a trickle charger for any 12V battery of this type, if I replace the internal 
> battery leads with some longer ones with alligator or battery-type clamps.  
> Wouldn't this work OK?
>  
> These small desktop PC style UPSs get tossed out all the time and if they 
> didn't die due to taking a surge on one or more of the MOVs, it would seem 
> that they would make dandy chargers.  Comments?Oscar Zuniga
> Air Camper NX41CC
> San Antonio, TX
> mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
> website at http://www.flysquirrel.net
> ___
> Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
>
>   
Generally, those will work for similar batteries. Smaller batteries 
would likely require the charge current be decreased, and larger ones, 
increased.  In the absence of any actual numbers, I  suspect those 
charge current ranges will overlap when the batteries are close in their 
ratings.

-- 
Glenn Martin
Owner
Martek Mississippi Electronic Repair
13238 Hudson-Krohn Rd
Biloxi, MS, 39532
rep...@martekmississippi.com

KR> battery charger

[Oscar Zuniga]

Question for you electronics types.  One of our office UPSs died and I snagged 
it on its way out to the trash.  Opening it up, I see that it's quite easy to 
replace the two sealed 7Ah, 12V batteries and put it back online again.  
However, it occurred to me that it might also be just fine to use as a trickle 
charger for any 12V battery of this type, if I replace the internal battery 
leads with some longer ones with alligator or battery-type clamps.  Wouldn't 
this work OK?

These small desktop PC style UPSs get tossed out all the time and if they 
didn't die due to taking a surge on one or more of the MOVs, it would seem that 
they would make dandy chargers.  Comments?Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper NX41CC
San Antonio, TX
mailto: taildr...@hotmail.com
website at http://www.flysquirrel.net

KR> was- last few flights...Now Crosswinds

[Jeff Scott]

I got into some early spring winds with the KR the previous weekend.  After 
meeting some friends for the $100 breakfast burrito, I got back to Los Alamos 
to find the winds 360@17G21 for landing runway 27.  Correcting the anemometer 
for our 7150' altitude, that's 19G23 gusting up out of the canyon and across 
the runway (read strong up and down drafts).  Before I rebuilt the tail on this 
KR I limited myself to 10 kt crosswinds in Los Alamos.  With the additional 
rudder and better elevator control, this landing wasn't pretty, but the plane 
could have handled more as I didn't run out of controls.

I never thought of the KR as much of a crosswind airplane before, but as Joe 
demonstrated in his trigear, and me in my taildragger, they can handle quite a 
bit of crosswind.  I love flying this airplane.

Jeff Scott
N1213W

-- "joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com"  wrote:
I also found my upper liimit to x wind. Sure  am glad the runway was at least 
60 ft wide. Wind at landing was 60 deg from left, 15 kts gusting to 25 kts. I 
had 3 little side ways skips with a lot of alieron and a lot of rudder input. I 
don't think I had all of it in, but I was more concerned about staying on the 
runway. That is more of an adrinalin rush than an engine out because I knew it 
was coming and was going to try it anyway.
I did some other flying on Saturday- but that flight is better reported around 
the camp fire than in public forum.
God, I love this plane.
Joe Horton



FTD.com
Shop now and save $15 on Flowers and Gifts from FTD!
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/u4MuScM2CQX96QwN3cpu5sjiKkyeaH05y5Q1cUH6XrxjzmlnU4Fo8/

KR> last few flights...

[Patrick Driscoll]

Mark won't be the first, so we know it can be done
   There was a fellow from Sweden at OSH. in about 1979 or 80 that was going 
to fly his plane to Sweden by the Greenland, Iceland route. He had a reserve 
tank built that would be on the seat beside him. His was the first KR I had 
seen with flaps.
   I guess I can't really say that Mark wouldn't be the first because I 
never found out if the guy made it. 



--- Get FREE High Speed Internet from USFamily.Net! -- 
http://www.usfamily.net/mkt-freepromo.html ---

KR> last few flights...

[joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com]

OK, knock it off guys before Langford does figure out a way to get his plane 
over there. I kind of thought I might get to catch up a few hours on him.
I did some forced economy vs. speed testing yesterday by following a 172 out to 
breakfast. At about 2700 rpm, @ 125 mph indicated and burned just about 3 
gal/hr. Came back home at 3050 rpm and that gives me just over 150 mph and just 
under 4.5 gal/hr. There was 6 or 7 planes that flew out together and ya should 
have heard them when I said I was only burning 3 gal/ hr.
I also found my upper liimit to x wind. Sure  am glad the runway was at least 
60 ft wide. Wind at landing was 60 deg from left, 15 kts gusting to 25 kts. I 
had 3 little side ways skips with a lot of alieron and a lot of rudder input. I 
don't think I had all of it in, but I was more concerned about staying on the 
runway. That is more of an adrinalin rush than an engine out because I knew it 
was coming and was going to try it anyway.
I did some other flying on Saturday- but that flight is better reported around 
the camp fire than in public forum.
God, I love this plane.
Joe Horton

Click to consolidate debt and lower month expenses.
http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/PnY6rw2PBHgpOEEJJ9M9RFX2BORqqXRWGzX7eeiXObat8ktKLz2Yg/

KR> last few flights...

[Roger Bulla]

r
- Original Message - 
From: "bobby burington" 
To: "KRnet" 
Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 7:25 AM
Subject: Re: KR> last few flights...


He won't need the long range tanks, he's going north to Greenland then a 
short hop over to Iceland then the long flight over the Channel to Scotland
thats about a 750 mile hop. So he should be fine with his wing tanks full.

Bobby Burington
California KR2 Builder


--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Ron Smith  wrote:

> From: Ron Smith 
> Subject: Re: KR> last few flights...
> To: "KRnet" 
> Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 9:30 PM
> --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Mark Langford 
> wrote:
> I'm headed to Andover England Tuesday morning, and will
> be looking
> for British builders/flyers to entertain me while I'm
> there.
>
> When did you install long range tanks on your plane?
>
> Ron Smith
> KR2SSXL
> Buckeye Arizona
> mercedesm...@yahoo.com
> http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php
>
> ___
> Search the KRnet Archives at
> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to
> krnet-le...@mylist.net
> please see other KRnet info at
> http://www.krnet.org/info.html




___
Search the KRnet Archives at http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to krnet-le...@mylist.net
please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html






No virus found in this incoming message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 02/07/09 
13:39:00

KR> last few flights...

[bobby burington]

He won't need the long range tanks, he's going north to Greenland then a short 
hop over to Iceland then the long flight over the Channel to Scotland
thats about a 750 mile hop. So he should be fine with his wing tanks full.

Bobby Burington
California KR2 Builder


--- On Sun, 2/8/09, Ron Smith  wrote:

> From: Ron Smith 
> Subject: Re: KR> last few flights...
> To: "KRnet" 
> Date: Sunday, February 8, 2009, 9:30 PM
> --- On Sun, 2/8/09, Mark Langford 
> wrote:
> I'm headed to Andover England Tuesday morning, and will
> be looking
> for British builders/flyers to entertain me while I'm
> there.
> 
> When did you install long range tanks on your plane?
> 
> Ron Smith
> KR2SSXL
> Buckeye Arizona
> mercedesm...@yahoo.com
> http://ronsmith.myphotoalbum.com/albums.php
>  
> ___
> Search the KRnet Archives at
> http://www.maddyhome.com/krsrch/index.jsp
> to UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to
> krnet-le...@mylist.net
> please see other KRnet info at
> http://www.krnet.org/info.html

KR> Blue foam

[Larry Flesner]

At 04:36 PM 2/8/2009, you wrote:
>I guess Ken Rand didn't know what he was talking about then, even though
>his plans are still for sale...  And Burt stopped selling his plans
>decades ago, so I'm thinking he knew what he was doing.
++

Unfortunately, neither Burt's decision to stop selling plans or Jeanette's
decision to continue selling plans, has / had anything to do with which
foam was the best to use.

One decision was based on liability and the other on "how am I going
to eat".

Larry Flesner