KR> KR2 Plans

[Craig Williams]

I just bought KR2S plans from them last Oct.  It is strange that they are not 
listed but I am sure they are still available.  The company was moving to a new 
location because of flooding I believe so that may have something to do with 
it.  Give them a call.

Craig

--- On Fri, 2/11/11, Kieran Shanley  wrote:

> From: Kieran Shanley 
> Subject: KR> KR2 Plans
> To: kr...@mylist.net
> Date: Friday, February 11, 2011, 4:12 AM
> Hi Guys,
> 
> This is probably the dumbest question out but where do you
> get the
> plans for a KR2 or KR2S ? I saw that http://www.nvaero.com is listed
> as the supplier of plans on http://www.krnet.org/.
> 
> On their web site they only list KR1 plans and builders
> manual:
> 
> http://www.nvaero.com/products/Rand-KR%252d1-Plans-and-Builders-Manual.html
> 
> Is a KR2 / KR2S built by buying the KR1 plans and applying
> all the
> mods people have made over time ? Is there no way to buy an
> actual set
> of KR2 plans ?
> 
> Told you it was a dumb question and apologies in advance.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Kieran
> 
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KR> KR2 Plans

[Seth and Karen Jersild]

Is a KR2 / KR2S built by buying the KR1 plans and applying all the
mods people have made over time ? Is there no way to buy an actual set 
of KR2 plans ?

---

Hello Kieran,
I was surprised to follow your link and not find the KR2/KR2S plans on 
that page, because that's where I ordered them from just two months 
ago.  I suspect it's a temporary thing on the website.  The KR2 and KR2S 
have their own plans (the "S" modifications come with the original KR2 
plans as a supplement).  You could try contacting NVAero directly or 
maybe someone here will be able to explain why they don't seem to be 
available at the moment...
-Seth Jersild

KR> KR2 Plans

[Kieran Shanley]

Hi Guys,

This is probably the dumbest question out but where do you get the
plans for a KR2 or KR2S ? I saw that http://www.nvaero.com is listed
as the supplier of plans on http://www.krnet.org/.

On their web site they only list KR1 plans and builders manual:

http://www.nvaero.com/products/Rand-KR%252d1-Plans-and-Builders-Manual.html

Is a KR2 / KR2S built by buying the KR1 plans and applying all the
mods people have made over time ? Is there no way to buy an actual set
of KR2 plans ?

Told you it was a dumb question and apologies in advance.

Cheers,

Kieran

KR> my corvair

[Glenn Martin]

Mark Langford wrote:
> it sure it easy to build a Corvair engine yourself, especially with
> William's conversion manual and the help you'd get at a Corvair College.
> That's something else you get from the CorvAircraft list, advice from some
> top notch machinists
I went to Barnes and Nobles and picked up a book  published by SA design 
called " THE STEP BY STEP GUIDE TO ENGINE BLUEPRINTING".  This would be 
a good book for anyone to add to your library to help you understand the 
finer points of engine machine work how to build to closer tolerences. I 
suspect it would be  some good preparatory reading prior to the Corvair 
College. 20 bucks well spent.

-- 
Glenn Martin
KR2 N1333A
Biloxi, MS, 39532
rep...@martekmississippi.com

KR> roll barr

[phillip matheson]

I am using 4130 steel for my roll bar but my plane is a radical departure 
from a standard KR so I don't know how carbon fiber would work.
---
I also have a 4130 roll bar, very similar to a RV4.

If you look at my web page below and look at
"Latest Update Photo page" -  from  the heading at the top-  and see bottom 
3 photos

Also the
Finished Building Photo's" - page - and look at the 2nd and 3rd row of 
photo's.

It is hard to see, but there are two cables from the top of the bar to the 
tail bulk head, to stop the bar being pulled onto the pilot while the plane 
is sliding down the runway upside down tail first.


Phil Matheson
SAAA Ch 37
http://www.philskr2.50megs.com/ 

KR> roll barr

[Dan Heath]

You do know that both escaped from that crash.  One with little to no injury
and the other with what could be considered minor, which he probably would
have gotten even with a roll bar.  

I am not disputing the benefits of a roll bar, but consider the weight and
where it is going to be in the CG.

See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you at the 2011 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN
There is a time for building and it never seems to end.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

-Original Message-

I would go as many layers as you can afford.

Here is an example
https://sites.google.com/a/wildblue.net/goodmans/Home/2010-kr2-mishap

KR> another corvair question

[phillabaum...@aol.com]

Interesting that 1964 was a special year for corvair because it was the only 
year VW made a type "F" series 1300cc engine.

As for KR's  what kind of shelf life are people REALLY getting with vinyl ester 
resin? and, What amount of work time are you getting for lay ups at 72 to 75 
degrees shop temp? (I think varies with amount of hardener one puts in like 
polyester resin but would like to hear).

Steve Phillabaum
KR2Swide
Shorter, Alabama
334-740-0066






-Original Message-
From: Mark Langford 
To: KRnet 
Sent: Thu, Feb 10, 2011 9:40 am
Subject: Re: KR> another corvair question


Make that link
ttp://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog.cgi?function=goto=MAIN=MAIN=23c
 

he previous one doesn't prove much...
Mark Langford
L at N56ML.com
ebsite www.n56ml.com

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KR> Stall strips / Tom in Orlando

[Andy Mckevitz]

Archives last mention stall strips in 1998, and Tom's Att email account is 
surprisingly... inactive.

Tom are you still around?

Can anyone enlighten me on how to place a stall strip on a wing?

I know what they are for, just not what size and position to place them on the 
leading edge.

andy

KR> my corvair

[Mark Langford]

Craig Williams wrote:

>>Actually I am now considering the AeroMax 100 IFB short-block, then add 
>>aftermarket 88mm VW cylinders and use my '64 heads after a rework by 
>>someone.  <<

This question brings up another great selling point regarding the Corvair 
engine.  The CorvAircraft list has several very reputable engine builder 
members who offer machine shop services, including head work, as well as 
complete engine builds.  But why not build it yourself?  The Corvair is an 
even simpler engine than a VW (if that's even imaginable) to rebuild.  And 
William Wynne holds several "Corvair Colleges" across the country each year, 
where William, Mark "Petz", Roy Szarafinski, and several others are on hand 
to help wherever they can.  People typically bring core engine parts cleaned 
up and ready to build, and one of the above folks will go over it with a 
fine tooth comb and dial indicators, etc to make sure the case and crank is 
suitable for aircraft use, and then assist when needed as you build your 
engine on the spot.  These colleges have been completely free over the 
years, although in recent years there's been a small charge to cover meals 
and supplies.  I think at the CC in November there were something like 11 
engines run on the test stand for breakin.

I've always had the attitude that if you want it done right, do it yourself, 
although notable exceptions are the three guys mentioned above.  Having said 
that, it sure it easy to build a Corvair engine yourself, especially with 
William's conversion manual and the help you'd get at a Corvair College. 
That's something else you get from the CorvAircraft list, advice from some 
top notch machinists, as well as information regarding the whereabouts of 
the next College, for example.  They are usually southeast, west coast, and 
midwest, spread throughout the year.

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website www.n56ml.com 

KR> another corvair question

[Mark Langford]

Make that link
http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog.cgi?function=goto=MAIN=MAIN=23c
 . 
The previous one doesn't prove much...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website www.n56ml.com

KR> another corvair question

[Mark Langford]

Craig Williams wrote:

>>"I found a set of 65-67 110hp heads.  Should I use my 64 heads or get 
>>theses?  I know there was some issue with the 64 head gasket sealing area. 
>>If I am going to have some special machining done on the 64 heads before I 
>>can use them it will be cheaper to buy the later model heads."<<

1964 heads are cut for smaller outside diameter cylinders.  The bore is the 
same as the later engines, but the '64 cylinder walls are thinner, so the 
counterbores are smaller in the '64 heads. So you'd have to have them opened 
up for later cylinders, which complicates things and limits your choices 
somewhat.  If you are boring the heads and case for larger cylinders anyway, 
1964 heads work fine because they'll be opened up anyway.  All of my engines 
have been based on '64 heads because nobody else wants them and they work 
fine for me.

See
 
http://www.corvair.com/user-cgi/catalog.cgi?function=goto=MAIN=MAIN=23for
 proof that 64's are unique.You may not know that there is a list named 
CorvAircraft that I also run.You can join by sending a message 
tocorvaircraft-j...@mylist.net .  There is also an extensive search engine 
athttp://www.maddyhome.com/corvairsrch/index.jsp where all kinds of Corvair 
engine answers can be found.  The Clark'sCorvair catalog is also an invaluable 
source of information, as well as anexcellent place to get Corvair parts...Mark 
LangfordML at N56ML.comwebsite www.n56ml.com

KR> roll barr

[Craig Williams]

Stef

I am using 4130 steel for my roll bar but my plane is a radical departure from 
a standard KR so I don't know how carbon fiber would work.  I think that 
strength is only 1/2 the equation here.  Abrasion resistance is just as 
important if your scraping down the runway upside down at 30-40 knots.  I would 
go as many layers as you can afford.

Here is an example
https://sites.google.com/a/wildblue.net/goodmans/Home/2010-kr2-mishap

Craig
www.kr2seafury.com


--- On Thu, 2/10/11, stef...@kpnmail.nl  wrote:

> From: stef...@kpnmail.nl 
> Subject: KR> roll barr

> We are starting to make our roll barr. We made it from the
> normal foam ( wings) and will wrap it around with cf 
> 210 gr sq meter.
> What are your fealings about how many layers I need for a
> save produkt.
> The bar is about 3 x 3 inch. I am  planning for 3
> layers or should I take 4 or 5 or 6???

KR> another corvair question

[Craig Williams]

Ok Corvair experts

I found a set of 65-67 110hp heads.  Should I use my 64 heads or get theses?  I 
know there was some issue with the 64 head gasket sealing area.  If I am going 
to have some special machining done on the 64 heads before I can use them it 
will be cheaper to buy the later model heads.

Craig

KR> roll barr

[stef...@kpnmail.nl]

KR friends,

We are starting to make our roll barr. We made it from the normal foam ( wings) 
and will wrap it around with cf 
210 gr sq meter.
What are your fealings about how many layers I need for a save produkt.
The bar is about 3 x 3 inch. I am  planning for 3 layers or should I take 4 or 
5 or 6???

Thanks 
Stef





Stef and Ted are building the KR-2S see   
http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2