KR>firewall material

[Jose Fuentes]

Hmmm that is true, though I do have a real small tank too so there is alot
of weight savings there. Guess it all depends on several factors. I guess if
I was going the two place route I would worry more about it as tyring to lug
300-400lbs of humans then every single pound saved counts.

I won't ever have that extra 150-200 lbs in my plane. Guess I would have to
weigh the benifits of a thicker firewall vs the thinner one.

I had also planned to put in roll bars to go over my head in the back
(incase it lands on the top) and have those bars to all the way to the
firewall (to offer a little more structural support in case of crash without
it collapsing on me). Not sure if that is going to be over kill (at least
the bars going all the way to the firewall).

Joe

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:01 PM, Mark Langford  wrote:

> Joe Fuentes wrote:
>
> >>Was reading though the plans, and it seems it was supposed to have
> cooking
> foil thin firewall, .005, gezz that is thin!! No wonder it peeled off with
> my fingers. I'm going with stainless steel at .035 yea a little more
> weight,
> but...<<
>
> I thought exactly the same thing, so I ordered some .016" stainless.  I
> took
> it out of the box and said "gz, this is way too heavy!", and I still
> have it leaning up against the wall.  If the .005" and lightweight
> fiberfrax
> does the job, anything else is dead weight.  I think it was .004" that I
> found eventually, backed it with 1/8" fiberfrax, and I'm pretty happy with
> that.  A little quick math shows you're talking 8.5 pounds vs my .98
> pounds.
> Some KR and Corvair folks would donate an organ to save 7.5 pounds...
>
> Mark Langford
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> website at http://www.N56ML.com 
> 
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Jose Fuentes
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Group
Former Microsoft MVP
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KR>firewall material

[Mark Langford]

Joe Fuentes wrote:

>>Was reading though the plans, and it seems it was supposed to have cooking
foil thin firewall, .005, gezz that is thin!! No wonder it peeled off with
my fingers. I'm going with stainless steel at .035 yea a little more weight,
but...<<

I thought exactly the same thing, so I ordered some .016" stainless.  I took 
it out of the box and said "gz, this is way too heavy!", and I still 
have it leaning up against the wall.  If the .005" and lightweight fiberfrax 
does the job, anything else is dead weight.  I think it was .004" that I 
found eventually, backed it with 1/8" fiberfrax, and I'm pretty happy with 
that.  A little quick math shows you're talking 8.5 pounds vs my .98 pounds. 
Some KR and Corvair folks would donate an organ to save 7.5 pounds...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
website at http://www.N56ML.com
 

KR> Progress so far

[Jose Fuentes]

Slow but sure, note the repair job on that elevator, got the braces almost
done by the machine shop for the landing gear so soon this baby will be on
it's own wheels!!

Was reading though the plans, and it seems it was supposed to have cooking
foil thin firewall, .005, gezz that is thin!! No wonder it peeled off with
my fingers. I'm going with stainless steel at .035 yea a little more weight,
but this plane is being configured as a single seat plane and with a Type 4
2400cc engine. So more then enough to handle the extra weight of a decent
firewall LOL.

Here are some of my latest pictures:
 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2094554=1106895076=f07ac91656

I need to start the other side and get that sanded down and the top deck
fixed on that side.

Once the landing gear is on and I've done what I want on the top, I'm going
to put the engine mount on and put some moving wheels bolted to the engine
mount and put the whole plane on it's nose. that way I can sand and fix
the bottom. Easier to glass vertical then upside down LOL.

Joe


-- 
Jose Fuentes
Founding Father (one of and former Vice Prez) of Capital City.NET User's
Group
Former Microsoft MVP
http://blogs.aspadvice.com/jfuentes

KR> KR2 accident

[STEVE bennett]

  Damage: Destroyed

LOCATION
  City: LUDLOW   State: CA   Country: US

DESCRIPTION
  AIRCRAFT CRASHED UNDER UNKNOWN CIRCUMSTANCES, THE 1 PERSON ON BOARD WAS 
  FATALLY INJURED, AIRCRAFT WAS THE SUBJECT OF AN ALERT NOTICE, WRECKAGE 
  LOCATED 2 MILES FROM HECTOR NEAR LUDLOW, CA

INJURY DATA  Total Fatal:   1
 # Crew:   1 Fat:   1 Ser:   0 Min:   0 Unk:
 # Pass:   0 Fat:   0 Ser:   0 Min:   0 Unk:
 # Grnd: Fat:   0 Ser:   0 Min:   0 Unk:


OTHER DATA
  Activity: Pleasure  Phase: Unknown  Operation: OTHER


  FAA FSDO: RIVERSIDE, CA  (WP21) Entry date: 03/10/2011 

Preliminary data on KR2 crash.

Steve Bennett

ifly...@msn.com

KR> Aussie Crash

[phillipmathe...@bigpond.com]

http://www.morganaeroworks.com.au/

It seems to be one of the above aircraft, NOT a KR2.

Phil

KR> KR2 Crash in Australia

[phillipmathe...@bigpond.com]

Just heard a KR2 crashed in QLD Australia, and pilot got 90% burns


But after more calls an Google.

Found this

http://www.warwickdailynews.com.au/story/2011/03/12/surviving-pilot-aircraft-crash-explosion-warwick/

Sounds like the single-engine Sierra. ?? Morgan Aeroworks build a 
Sierra, but do not know for sure.

Phil Matheson

KR> > KR-2 Crash- Australia

[Darren Crompton]

Hopefully he is beyond feeling the pain right now and the ones closest to
him are by his side.

Very sad news Phil.

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AUSTRALIA

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KR> > KR-2 Crash- Australia

[phillipmathe...@bigpond.com]

Just had a phone call to say a KR2 crashed in Queensland and pilot received 
90% burns

I will try and find out more info and get back.

Phil Matheson

KR> Finally (because of a sick day off work) got time to upload some progress shots of my plane.

[Paul & Karen Smith]

4 new posts:
- The first is the measurement of propeller clearance with a flat tyre
- Second is fitting the VHF COM antenna
- Third recent engine run video
- Last is an update of my engine cowl work, finished the top deck.
Follow the link below, enjoy.

Paul Smith
Brisbane, AUSTRALIA
pk.sm...@bigpond.net.au
http://kr2spacemodulator.blogspot.com/