KR> CAD anyone?

[Barrett]

After looking at the suggestions, Google's SketchUp fits bill be just fine
and a great tutorial to go along with it.
Great suggestion, thanks guys! :-)
If anyone out there hasn't tried this program and is in the same boat I was,
try it, it works great!
Thanks again,
Barrett   SLC, UT

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Subject: RE: KR> CAD anyone?

"Barrett" wrote:

I've never used any type of CAD software at all and have no idea where to
start to use it. So, with that in mind, what suggestions does anyone have? 

http://sketchup.google.com/ is probably what you're looking for, and it's
free...

Mark Langford

KR> CAD anyone?

[Todd Price]

Try Double Cad XT .
 For free it's not to bad of a program.

Todd Price
Chandler, AZ

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Joseph Davis wrote:

> My favorite cheap one is called DeltaCAD.  Around $30 and pretty versatile.
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Barrett  wrote:
>
> > OK guys- I'm looking for some SUPER SIMPLE (and cheap) beginners CAD
> > software. While I am very computer literate, I've never used any type of
> > CAD
> > software at all and have no idea where to start to use it. So, with that
> in
> > mind, what suggestions does anyone have? I usually just use some graph
> > paper
> > and draw it out by hand, but in this case I'd rather have it done in CAD
> so
> > it can be saved for future reference. Thanks!
> > And MERRY CHRISTMAS to all,
> > -Barrett, SLC, UT
> >
> >
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KR> iFly 700

[Larry Flesner]

> > Did any of you ever buy the iFly 700? If you did, I was just wondering
> > what your thoughts were after flying with it.
> > Mark Jones (N886MJ)
++

I recently turned loose of my wallet and purchased a reconditioned 
unit ($499) and have made two flights with the unit.  I think it is 
GREAT for the money paid.  The single feature I thought I would not 
like after receiving it was the sectional overlay.  When flying any 
direction other then north, the map is rotated from 0 to 180 degrees 
(upside down when flying south) and the print is upside down.  It 
functions exactly as if you were holding a paper map.  However, a 
single press of the button "North up" will rotate the map for 
reading.  I called the Airventure Pilot company and they explained 
that it would be impossible to digitalize all the info contained on 
the sectional to have it work otherwise.  Turns out it really is not 
a problem.  I always flew with my maps upside down when flying other 
then North to give me a better reference to the geography anyway.

The basic package is really all you need.  They offer a GPS antenna 
and external battery pack but there is no need for the external 
antenna.  I can pick up 6 satellites in my house.  The unit does 
require external power but I hooked it up to aircraft power and with 
the flip of a switch I have backup power for my avionics from my 
small fuel pump backup battery.  With the amount of information you 
can get in flight and all the capabilities the unit has, I'm amazed 
it doesn't sell for twice the price.

I continue to use my seven year old Lowrance 500 as backup and the 
two agree within 1 mph, 1 degree on heading,  and 15 to 20 feet 
altitude.  I do occasionally experience the unit locking up and have 
to reboot if I do a lot of screen switching at a very fast rate.  If 
that happens, any flight plan I have programmed or other data comes 
back up on the reboot.  I do find the "Table of contents" in the 
manual a bit lacking and I'd like to see an "Index of terms" in the 
back but, all in all, I give it a 9.9 on a scale of 10.  Hey, even my 
KR is not a perfect 10. :-)

Larry Flesner

KR> iFly 700

[Lee Parker]

I have one and love it.  I also have the Garmin 396 but I always use the 700 
because it has the remote , touch screen and much simpler to use.  Plus it has 
a much bigger screen.




 From: Mark Jones 
To: KR Net  
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 1:00 PM
Subject: KR> iFly 700

Did any of you ever buy the iFly 700? If you did, I was just wondering what 
your thoughts were after flying with it.
Thanks,


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com
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KR> Thoughts and ideas on stretching the wingspan

[Mark Goldman]

On Dec 22, 2011 4:24 PM, "Virgil N. Salisbury" 
wrote:
>
>
>DO NOT DO IT. The design was for what it is. Stresses
>calculated for the existing span. How much of a test pilot
>and designer do you want to be ? Virg
I do plan on redoing the analysis on the wings, fuselage, and spars. I was
wondering if others had traveled down this path before and what their
numbers were.

According to my plans, the gross weight is specified to be 900# but many of
the weight and balance sheets I see have gross weights 2-300# higher.  How
do they/we/I justify this? If we can safely increase the gross, we should
be able to trade gross for some wingspan. I don't plan on doing anything
unless the numbers tell me I can.

-mdg

KR> dividing the elevator

[Margaret Davis]

--- On Thu, 12/22/11, Jeff Scott  wrote:

hi jeff...could you tell me what your using for a tail wheel spring...brad d.
From: Jeff Scott 
Subject: Re: KR> dividing the elevator
To: "KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 10:00 AM


I wrote a reply to this that apparently didn't make it to the the net...

When I built the larger tail for my KR, I built a split elevator with each half 
removable. I used a pair of aluminum plates with 8 AN3 bolts to sandwich the 
two spar halves with the elevator belcrank attached to the two bolts in the 
center. I have somthing on the order of 370 hours on this incarnation of the 
elevator. Some info and photos of it are on my web site at 
. You'll have to go to the KR page, then drill down to 
the tail mods page.

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM

- Original Message -
From: Martin Pearce
Sent: 12/22/11 02:09 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> dividing the elevator

As I have some major rework to do on the fin and sternpost, I was wondering 
about dividing the elevator into two halves and using, say, two L shaped metal 
pieces bridging the now divided spar so they form a box around the spar and 
bolted with two bolts (3/8?) o9n each side. This would make it easy to remove 
for maintenance / painting .. Comments would be appreciated. Has this been 
done before? Can't find anything in the archives  Cheers Martin Pearce 
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KR> CAD anyone?

[Joseph Davis]

My favorite cheap one is called DeltaCAD.  Around $30 and pretty versatile.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Barrett  wrote:

> OK guys- I'm looking for some SUPER SIMPLE (and cheap) beginners CAD
> software. While I am very computer literate, I've never used any type of
> CAD
> software at all and have no idea where to start to use it. So, with that in
> mind, what suggestions does anyone have? I usually just use some graph
> paper
> and draw it out by hand, but in this case I'd rather have it done in CAD so
> it can be saved for future reference. Thanks!
> And MERRY CHRISTMAS to all,
> -Barrett, SLC, UT
>
>
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KR> CAD anyone?

[RED Robinson]

Personally I like Autosketch, by autodesk ... it's a simplified version of 
autocad.
I took a 1 semester nite class at the local college  worth every penny.
I have version 8 and it was $99 10 years ago. They are up to Version 10 at $200 
or go on Ebay and get V9 for $50 or less.

    RED   
@TuxLim.com


--- On Thu, 12/22/11, Barrett  wrote:

From: Barrett 
Subject: KR> CAD anyone?
To: "'KRnet'" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Thursday, December 22, 2011, 2:36 PM

KR> CAD anyone?

[Mark]

Try Google Sketchup - there is a free as well as pro version and it is 
workable.


On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 2:36 PM, Barrett wrote:

> OK guys- I'm looking for some SUPER SIMPLE (and cheap) beginners CAD
> software. While I am very computer literate, I've never used any type 
> of CAD
> software at all and have no idea where to start to use it. So, with 
> that in
> mind, what suggestions does anyone have? I usually just use some graph 
> paper
> and draw it out by hand, but in this case I'd rather have it done in 
> CAD so
> it can be saved for future reference. Thanks!
> And MERRY CHRISTMAS to all,
> -Barrett, SLC, UT
>
>
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KR> CAD anyone?

[Mark Langford]

"Barrett" wrote:

I've never used any type of CAD software at all and have no idea where to
start to use it. So, with that in mind, what suggestions does anyone have? 

http://sketchup.google.com/ is probably what you're looking for, and it's
free...

Mark Langford

KR> CAD anyone?

[Phillip E. Harrison]

I agree TurboCad is a pretty functional inexpensive program. It's easy to
set up your environment, and use it. There is always a free 15 day free
download, but as usual you can not open saved files after the 15 days unless
you buy the program. I have used it for #D Designs since version 3 came out.


Here is their link- http://www.turbocad.com/ 


If an earlier version, would work for you I could send it to you free via
post I have gifted all but v-9,10,10.5

Phillip E. Harrison



 Penumbra


Design Studio
~Professional design services Est. 1988~

pharri...@penumbradesign.net

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] On Behalf
Of Barrett
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2011 3:36 PM
To: 'KRnet'
Subject: KR> CAD anyone?

OK guys- I'm looking for some SUPER SIMPLE (and cheap) beginners CAD
software. While I am very computer literate, I've never used any type of CAD
software at all and have no idea where to start to use it. So, with that in
mind, what suggestions does anyone have? I usually just use some graph paper
and draw it out by hand, but in this case I'd rather have it done in CAD so
it can be saved for future reference. Thanks!
And MERRY CHRISTMAS to all,
-Barrett, SLC, UT


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KR> CAD anyone?

[Fred Johnson]

I would try Turbocad. It's fairly inexpensive and offers nearly the same
aspect that AutoCAD does. I am currently using AutoCAD light, but had their
full mechanical suite a few years ago. not sure if anyone else has a better
idea.


Fred Johnson
Reno, NV

Barrett wrote:

OK guys- I'm looking for some SUPER SIMPLE (and cheap) beginners CAD
software. While I am very computer literate, I've never used any type of CAD
software at all and have no idea where to start to use it. So, with that in
mind, what suggestions does anyone have? I usually just use some graph paper
and draw it out by hand, but in this case I'd rather have it done in CAD so
it can be saved for future reference. Thanks!
And MERRY CHRISTMAS to all,

KR> CAD anyone?

[Barrett]

OK guys- I'm looking for some SUPER SIMPLE (and cheap) beginners CAD
software. While I am very computer literate, I've never used any type of CAD
software at all and have no idea where to start to use it. So, with that in
mind, what suggestions does anyone have? I usually just use some graph paper
and draw it out by hand, but in this case I'd rather have it done in CAD so
it can be saved for future reference. Thanks!
And MERRY CHRISTMAS to all,
-Barrett, SLC, UT

KR> Flying Stories

[Phillip Matherson]

Where are all the inspirational flying stories
-

What about the ones that almost stop us from flying again.

This is my Engine Failure on takeoff story. ( Third post luck, I cannot get
them to post to the net)

25th August approx 1730 Daylight saving time. Down under.

Take off RW 23,( sealed-crop duster strip lot of trees and houses) Full
power to about 400 feet about 1 mile from runway, no warning engine stopped
dead. Nowhere to go ahead 160dec turn to right to the only open field, tried
to start twice, tanks, fuel pump etc, nothing, by now low and fast. Trim,
slow down full flap, but running out of intended field. Had to decide to go
over or though the fence, went over, around a tree ( not good) then a
channel I had to STALL over the irrigation channel, I think the left wing
clipped the ground first ( now I was only along for the ride) then flipped
to L wing down, and nose wheel and Left main collapse and ground loop to the
left and stopped.

Someone was looking after me as it did not flip over. 

What did 007 say ? shaken and VERY stirred. 

Engine stoppage caused by the Electronic ign. wire inside the distributor
rubbed and shorted on the rotor.

Damage- nose wheel and one of three prop blades, Left main, 3 x broken bolts
and damage to underside of inner wing, the nose wheel folded back but sat
under the F/WALL and keep the nose up off the rough ground. What a very
strong little aircraft!!!

Lessons leant, forget restarting the engine twice and fly the plan, how many
times have we heard that Should have done a Mayday call, as if it had of
turned over, I could have been in trouble.


KR2 flying again.

But needs some underside and wingtip paint sometime.

Accident reports and inspections done.

Phil Matheson

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KR> iFly 700

[George Kolasinski]

Mark, -- I bought one of these units.  I was surprise by the simplicity and
ease of working this unit.   This unit has been pretty accurate.  The
display formats are something we all have learned to work with in our
aviation education. I had the chance to fly recently with a friend that was
using a different brand and I had my unit and ran it to compare it.   The
700 accurately placed us on the VFR chart format as to the flight path we
were following (no matter what visual level I was on).   The other unit had
us two mile right of route the whole trip (going and return).   Would I
recommend? Yes.

George

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Mark Jones  wrote:

> Did any of you ever buy the iFly 700? If you did, I was just wondering
> what your thoughts were after flying with it.
> Thanks,
>
>
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)
> Stevens Point, WI
> E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
> Web: www.flykr2s.com
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770 712-0638

KR> iFly 700

[Mark Jones]

Did any of you ever buy the iFly 700? If you did, I was just wondering what 
your thoughts were after flying with it.
Thanks,


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flyk...@charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

KR> dividing the elevator

[Jeff Scott]

I wrote a reply to this that apparently didn't make it to the the net...

 When I built the larger tail for my KR, I built a split elevator with each 
half removable. I used a pair of aluminum plates with 8 AN3 bolts to sandwich 
the two spar halves with the elevator belcrank attached to the two bolts in the 
center. I have somthing on the order of 370 hours on this incarnation of the 
elevator. Some info and photos of it are on my web site at 
. You'll have to go to the KR page, then drill down to 
the tail mods page.

 -Jeff Scott
 Los Alamos, NM

- Original Message -
From: Martin Pearce
Sent: 12/22/11 02:09 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> dividing the elevator

 As I have some major rework to do on the fin and sternpost, I was wondering 
about dividing the elevator into two halves and using, say, two L shaped metal 
pieces bridging the now divided spar so they form a box around the spar and 
bolted with two bolts (3/8?) o9n each side. This would make it easy to remove 
for maintenance / painting .. Comments would be appreciated. Has this been 
done before? Can't find anything in the archives  Cheers Martin Pearce 
rocketdri...@optusnet.com.au

KR> Thoughts and ideas on stretching the wingspan

[Mark Goldman]

I'm about to start construction of a KR-2S but I'm likely to be limited to
light sport.  Bearing this in mind, I would like to reduce my stall speed.
I was wondering, does anyone out there have experience with stretching the
wingspan?

Thoughts? Ideas?

-mdg

KR> parts for sale

[Daniel Root]

>From earlier posts, you'll find a listing of parts I'm selling.  Add to that 
>list a set of new fiberglass wingtips in their original box.  you can have 
>these for the cost of shipping and handling, say $25.00
 
BTW, the Remaster 2100D comes with assembly manual as well.  Included in the 
manual are instructions to mount and adjust revmaster/posa carbs, and single as 
well as dual magnetos.

KR> dividing the elevator

[Jeff Scott]

Yes, I split mine when I built the larger tail so either half of the elevator 
can be removed. Some pictures of it are on my web site at 
 You'll have to drill down into the KR site, then the 
tail mods. I used two aluminum plates to box in and capture the spars. I don't 
recall how many bolts through each spar half now. but from looking at the 
photos, it looks like a total of 8 AN3 bolts through the spar plates capturing 
the two spar halves. The elevator bellcrank is also mounted to the two bolts 
that go through the center between the two spar halves. I have roughly 370 
hours flight time with this configuration.

 Jeff Scott
 Los Alamos, NM

- Original Message -
From: Martin Pearce
Sent: 12/22/11 02:09 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> dividing the elevator

 As I have some major rework to do on the fin and sternpost, I was wondering 
about dividing the elevator into two halves and using, say, two L shaped metal 
pieces bridging the now divided spar so they form a box around the spar and 
bolted with two bolts (3/8?) o9n each side. This would make it easy to remove 
for maintenance / painting .. Comments would be appreciated. Has this been 
done before? Can't find anything in the archives  Cheers Martin Pearce 
rocketdri...@optusnet.com.au

KR> Re: KR-2 Fuse at the EAA Woodworking Workshop

[smwood]

Rich,
I trailered my KR-2 fuselage to the EAA Woodworking Workshop in 1994 to 
demonstrate installation of the Diehl wingskin kit.  We did not finish the 
wings that week, but did get a pretty good start.  My snail's pace 
construction was greatly speeded up that week.
I was also convinced that week to convert to the fixed tri-gear.

I work with Mark Forss at AirVenture in the Composites Workshop every year. 
Highly recommend the volunteer experience at Oshkosh.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA
smw...@md.metrocast.net

-
Hi folks,

I had a chat yesterday with EAA's Mark Forss. He is the gentleman who 
coordinates the traveling road show that is EAA's SportAir Workshops. They 
came to near-by Columbus, Ohio in late October. The timing and proximity 
could hardly be better so I took in the composites workshop taught by Mark 
Forss himself.

Recently, while looking through KRNet's archives I discovered an article 
from the Oct. 1975 Sport Aviation about the woodworking workshop at 
Airventure turning out a KR-2 fuse and most of a horizontal stab by weeks 
end. I had been wanting to fire off a note of thanks to Mark for such a well 
done effort on the October workshop when the thought occurred to me that it 
sure would be nice if a KR-2S fuse build were the focus of a workshop coming 
back to a future Oshkosh Airventure workshop.

Now many of you are probably well past needing something like this, but I'm 
sure some of us would be greatly benefited and that would be a great way to 
draw attention to the KR in an audience of likely builders.

Mark tells me that there are several woodworking projects being considered 
for upcoming Osh workshops and though the KR-2S wasn't one of them, he'd see 
that it was "thrown in the hat".

Mark's email addy is mfo...@eaa.org and I bet it would "ramp up the 
momentum" if others among us fired off a note to him supporting the idea. 
Just a thought.

Thanks,

Rich

KR> KR-2 Fuse at the EAA Woodworking Workshop

[Jose Fuentes]

beyond just emailing in support I am sure the project that is picked is
because someone(s) experienced in that model volunteers.

Just a thought

Joe

Sent from my Windows Phone
From: Rich Angel
Sent: 12/21/2011 9:05 AM
To: kr...@mylist.net
Subject: KR> KR-2 Fuse at the EAA Woodworking Workshop
Hi folks,

     I had a chat yesterday with EAA's Mark Forss.  He is the
gentleman who coordinates the traveling road show that is EAA's
SportAir Workshops.  They came to near-by Columbus, Ohio in late
October.  The timing and proximity could hardly be better so I took in
the composites workshop taught by Mark Forss himself.

     Recently, while looking through KRNet's archives I discovered an
article from the Oct. 1975 Sport Aviation about the woodworking
workshop at Airventure turning out a KR-2 fuse and most of a
horizontal stab by weeks end.  I had been wanting to fire off a note
of thanks to Mark for such a well done effort on the October workshop
when the thought occurred to me that it sure would be nice if a KR-2S
fuse build were the focus of a workshop coming back to a future
Oshkosh Airventure workshop.

     Now many of you are probably well past needing something like
this, but I'm sure some of us would be greatly benefited and that
would be a great way to draw attention to the KR in an audience of
likely builders.

     Mark tells me that there are several woodworking projects being
considered for upcoming Osh workshops and though the KR-2S wasn't one
of them, he'd see that it was "thrown in the hat".

     Mark's email addy is mfo...@eaa.org and I bet it would "ramp up
the momentum" if others among us fired off a note to him supporting
the idea.  Just a thought.

     Thanks,

Rich
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KR> dividing the elevator

[Martin Pearce]

As I have some major rework to do on the fin and sternpost, I was wondering
about dividing the elevator into two halves and using, say, two L shaped
metal pieces bridging  the now divided spar so they form a box around the
spar and bolted with two bolts (3/8?) o9n each side. This would make it easy
to remove for maintenance / painting ..

Comments would be appreciated. Has this been done before? Can't find
anything in the archives 

Cheers



Martin Pearce

rocketdri...@optusnet.com.au