KR> Carbeuretors

2014-05-20 Thread Mike T via KRnet
Is the Zenith carb that Great Plains sells NOT suitable for VWs?

Mike Taglieri


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 12:46 PM, via KRnet  wrote:

> Thought I would change the subject to be the subject.
>
> I have no use for any of the "leaky" carbeuretors.  The best carbeuretor
> that I have ever found for the VW was the Ellison EFS-2, but they quit
> making them a long time ago.  The best that I have used on a Corvair is the
> EFS-3A and they have just now stopped making them.  Why, I really don't
> know.  I discussed this at length with Ben Ellison to no avail.
>
> So, I am thinking that we better be thinking of the Marvels or Strombergs
> or other aircraft carbeuretor that is suitable for the size engine we are
> using.
>
> Dan Heath
> =
> My biggest headache was with the 32mm posa.Too leaky for hand prop and too
> lean on the high end.In all fairness to posa,mine was probably too
> big[32mm] for an 1835.Had good luck with the GPAS zenith and Ellison
> EFS2.The Ellison gave me some problems until I discovered a hole in the
> diaphram.Replaced it with the tillotson diaphram.No problems since.Still
> needs primer for start.Tommy W.
>
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KR> Carbeuretors

2014-05-20 Thread Chris Gardner via KRnet
I have had good success using the speedometer cable style adjustment on my 
Zenith carb.

With 238 hours to date, I have not had any issues with this method.

Looks a little unconventional but works fine.

Details on request if interested.

Chris Gardiner
KR2S CGKRZ 
First flew 2001

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> On May 20, 2014, at 7:04 PM, Dan Heath via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> Big drawback, I think.  Kind of like having to use a speedometer cable for
> mixture control on a Zenith Carb.  I know it is being done, but I would not
> do it.
> 
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KR> Carbeuretors

2014-05-20 Thread Dan Heath via KRnet
Big drawback, I think.  Kind of like having to use a speedometer cable for
mixture control on a Zenith Carb.  I know it is being done, but I would not
do it.

My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web Site

Daniel R. Heath -?Lexington, SC

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Subject: Re: KR> Carbeuretors

At 11:46 AM 5/20/2014, you wrote:
>So, I am thinking that we better be thinking of the Marvels or 
>Strombergs or other aircraft carbeuretor that is suitable for the size 
>engine we are using.
>
>Dan Heath

+++Old farm tractors used Marvel Schebler carbs
of many different designs that would probably work.  The draw back would be
that few if any have an (in flight ) mixture control.





KR> Carbeuretors

2014-05-20 Thread Flesner via KRnet
At 11:46 AM 5/20/2014, you wrote:
>So, I am thinking that we better be thinking of the Marvels or 
>Strombergs or other aircraft carbeuretor that is suitable for the 
>size engine we are using.
>
>Dan Heath
+

Old farm tractors used Marvel Schebler carbs of many different 
designs that would probably work.  The draw back would be that few if 
any have an (in flight ) mixture control.

Larry Flesner 




KR> KRElevator weights advise

2014-05-20 Thread ppaul...@aol.com via KRnet
4.5 lbs is a lot of weight to add to foam horns. Even with CF on the ends. 
Joe, what did you do to beef up the horn areas?

Paul Visk 
Belleville Il
618 406 4705



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From: "smwood via KRnet" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Tue, May 20, 2014 12:27 pm
Subject: KR> KRElevator weights advise
To: 

I used 2.6 pounds on a 16 inch arm hinged on a bell crank 14 inches forward 
of the elevator hinge.  Connection between the elevator bell crank and the 
balance counter weight bell crank is by a push rod and rod ends.  All 
linkage and counter weight are in the fuselage.  This push rod is also part 
of the elevator linkage to the stick.  Elevator and aileron linkage is all 
pushrods.

Sid Wood
smwood at md.metrocast.net
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA

>
>
> --
> With the horns just foam will they be strong enough to support the weight? 
> or should I just add the weight off the push rod like Mark did. How much 
> weight are we talking about?? I'm using the new? tail.?
>
> I built the wider tail on N3151K and ?need ~ 4.5 pounds to statically 
> balance my elevator without primer and paint. 2.5 pounds on each horn 
> right now .Probably a little more when painted..
>
> Joe Cruz
> cruzj12 at frontiernet.net
> KR1.5 ? ? N3151K
> KR2S ? builder...fiber glassing main wing
> On Monday, May 5, 2014 9:15 AM, "ppaulvsk at aol.com via KRnet" 
>  wrote:
>
>
>
> I can't decide where to put my elevator counter weights. I'm adding three 
> inche foam horns to the elevator and covering? the hole thing? with carbon 
> fiber.? With the horns just foam will they be strong enough to support the 
> weight? or should I just add the weight off the push rod like Mark did. 
> How much weight are we talking about?? I'm using the new? tail.?
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618-406-4705
>
>> 



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KR> KRElevator weights advise

2014-05-20 Thread smwood via KRnet
I used 2.6 pounds on a 16 inch arm hinged on a bell crank 14 inches forward 
of the elevator hinge.  Connection between the elevator bell crank and the 
balance counter weight bell crank is by a push rod and rod ends.  All 
linkage and counter weight are in the fuselage.  This push rod is also part 
of the elevator linkage to the stick.  Elevator and aileron linkage is all 
pushrods.

Sid Wood
smwood at md.metrocast.net
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA

>
>
> --
> With the horns just foam will they be strong enough to support the weight? 
> or should I just add the weight off the push rod like Mark did. How much 
> weight are we talking about?? I'm using the new? tail.?
>
> I built the wider tail on N3151K and ?need ~ 4.5 pounds to statically 
> balance my elevator without primer and paint. 2.5 pounds on each horn 
> right now .Probably a little more when painted..
>
> Joe Cruz
> cruzj12 at frontiernet.net
> KR1.5 ? ? N3151K
> KR2S ? builder...fiber glassing main wing
> On Monday, May 5, 2014 9:15 AM, "ppaulvsk at aol.com via KRnet" 
>  wrote:
>
>
>
> I can't decide where to put my elevator counter weights. I'm adding three 
> inche foam horns to the elevator and covering? the hole thing? with carbon 
> fiber.? With the horns just foam will they be strong enough to support the 
> weight? or should I just add the weight off the push rod like Mark did. 
> How much weight are we talking about?? I'm using the new? tail.?
>
> Paul Visk
> Belleville Il
> 618-406-4705
>
>> 





KR> Carbeuretors

2014-05-20 Thread via KRnet
Thought I would change the subject to be the subject.

I have no use for any of the "leaky" carbeuretors.  The best carbeuretor that I 
have ever found for the VW was the Ellison EFS-2, but they quit making them a 
long time ago.  The best that I have used on a Corvair is the EFS-3A and they 
have just now stopped making them.  Why, I really don't know.  I discussed this 
at length with Ben Ellison to no avail.

So, I am thinking that we better be thinking of the Marvels or Strombergs or 
other aircraft carbeuretor that is suitable for the size engine we are using.

Dan Heath
=
My biggest headache was with the 32mm posa.Too leaky for hand prop and too 
lean on the high end.In all fairness to posa,mine was probably too 
big[32mm] for an 1835.Had good luck with the GPAS zenith and Ellison 
EFS2.The Ellison gave me some problems until I discovered a hole in the 
diaphram.Replaced it with the tillotson diaphram.No problems since.Still 
needs primer for start.Tommy W. 







KR> New email program.

2014-05-20 Thread tommy waymack via KRnet
Try it and let us know how it works.Tommy W.


On Tue, May 20, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Bill Masquelier via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> I am a noob to this list but am just starting to look at building a KR.
> Question to the general group- Ken Rand used a common SU HS4 carb on his
> original KR1 with the 1200 VW engine (too big a carb for that engine). I am
> thinking of using an SU HS2 carb on my 1600. I don't see too many (none)
> folks using this set-up and am curious why not? it is about perfect (and I
> have a box of them)
> Thanks
> Bill
>
>
> >
> > My biggest headache was with the 32mm posa.Too leaky for hand prop and
> too
> > lean on the high end.In all fairness to posa,mine was probably too
> > big[32mm] for an 1835.Had good luck with the GPAS zenith and Ellison
> > EFS2.The Ellison gave me some problems until I discovered a hole in the
> > diaphram.Replaced it with the tillotson diaphram.No problems since.Still
> > needs primer for start.Tommy W.
> >
>
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KR> Sanding Blocks

2014-05-20 Thread tommy waymack via KRnet
I have a roll of Norton 40x Resinall Metalite Cloth 29 inches wide and 80
ft. long.If anyone would like to have some for sanding,contact me off the
net.Tommy Waymack Pine Bluff,Arkansas


On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Wayne Tokarz via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> I also build R/C planes and the hobby shops sell sandpaper on the roll for
> about 5 -7$ It has a sticky back and you can stick it to almost anything,
> angle iron/aluminum, edge of 2 X 4, etc. worked great for me.
>
> Wayne
>
> -Original Message-
> From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of
> ppaulvsk at aol.com via KRnet
> Sent: May-16-14 8:07 AM
> To: via KRnet
> Subject: Re: KR> Sanding Blocks
>
> That's a good idea and its cheaper than the floor sander paper.
>
> Paul Visk
> Bellev
>
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> - Reply message -
> From: "via KRnet" 
> Date: Fri, May 16, 2014 7:21 am
> Subject: KR> Sanding Blocks
> To: "Adam Tippin" , "KRnet" 
>
> Another suggestion that I used is the stuff they sell to keep you from
> slipping - comes rough and has a sticky back.
> Paul N7970K
> - Original Message -
>
> From: "Adam Tippin via KRnet" 
> To: "KRnet" 
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2014 10:38:47 PM
> Subject: Re: KR> Sanding Blocks
>
> Little late but just found your email in spam folder.
> Rap the sand paper around three sides and staple the two sides that you
> don't intend to use.
> On Apr 26, 2014 7:01 PM,  wrote:
>
> >
> > Any suggestions on sanding blocks. I made a 4ft board for my
> > horizontal stabilizer out of a straight 2x4. I'm having problems
> > keeping the sandpaper on
> >  the board. I used contact cement and that's not seem to hold and when
> > the edges  peal up it digs into the foam. I'm at the start of a lot of
> > sanding and I figure  there's a LOT of experience out there with
> > sanding.  I could definitely use  some suggestions.
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > Paul  Visk
> > Belleville Il.
> > 618-406-4705
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2014-05-20 Thread tommy waymack via KRnet
My biggest headache was with the 32mm posa.Too leaky for hand prop and too
lean on the high end.In all fairness to posa,mine was probably too
big[32mm] for an 1835.Had good luck with the GPAS zenith and Ellison
EFS2.The Ellison gave me some problems until I discovered a hole in the
diaphram.Replaced it with the tillotson diaphram.No problems since.Still
needs primer for start.Tommy W.


On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Jeff Scott via KRnet
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2014-05-20 Thread Bill Masquelier via KRnet
I am a noob to this list but am just starting to look at building a KR.
Question to the general group- Ken Rand used a common SU HS4 carb on his 
original KR1 with the 1200 VW engine (too big a carb for that engine). I am 
thinking of using an SU HS2 carb on my 1600. I don't see too many (none) folks 
using this set-up and am curious why not? it is about perfect (and I have a box 
of them)
Thanks
Bill


> 
> My biggest headache was with the 32mm posa.Too leaky for hand prop and too
> lean on the high end.In all fairness to posa,mine was probably too
> big[32mm] for an 1835.Had good luck with the GPAS zenith and Ellison
> EFS2.The Ellison gave me some problems until I discovered a hole in the
> diaphram.Replaced it with the tillotson diaphram.No problems since.Still
> needs primer for start.Tommy W.
> 




KR> Elevator weights advise

2014-05-20 Thread cruz...@frontiernet.net via KRnet
With the horns just foam will they be strong enough to support the weight? or 
should I just add the weight off the push rod like Mark did. How much weight 
are we talking about?? I'm using the new? tail.?

I built the wider tail on N3151K and ?need ~ 4.5 pounds to statically balance 
my elevator without primer and paint. 2.5 pounds on each horn right now 
.Probably a little more when painted..

Joe Cruz
cruzj12 at frontiernet.net
KR1.5 ? ? N3151K
KR2S ? builder...fiber glassing main wing
On Monday, May 5, 2014 9:15 AM, "ppaulvsk at aol.com via KRnet"  wrote:



I can't decide where to put my elevator counter weights. I'm adding three inche 
foam horns to the elevator and covering? the hole thing? with carbon fiber.? 
With the horns just foam will they be strong enough to support the weight? or 
should I just add the weight off the push rod like Mark did. How much weight 
are we talking about?? I'm using the new? tail.? 

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618-406-4705

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KR> Stromberg Carbs

2014-05-20 Thread Jeff Scott via KRnet

Most pilots that hate Stromberg carbs don't understand the internal workings of 
a Stromberg or how the mixture control is designed to work.  Very simple carb 
and very reliable.  But they will bite you if you don't take the time to learn 
how they operate, especially if you try to use the mixture control or have 
expectations for it to work like a Marvel Schebler.  Remember, they are a 1930s 
design.  Driving a 1930s car would be challenging as well. :o)

-Jeff Scott
Los Alamos, NM


I have had HORRIBLE experiences with Stromberg Carbs.

Thanks,

Barron

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KR> New email program.

2014-05-20 Thread Jeff Scott via KRnet