KR> KR2S supplement

2014-10-12 Thread Gary 
Done. ?I'm out.


Gary Wold

 Original message

KR> KR2S supplement

2014-10-12 Thread Alex Pearson 
It would seem to me though unnecessary to on a group forum to bring all
this up so publically. I have been part of the KR2 community a few months
now, a very short time compared to many of you, and have found everyone to
pleasant, patient, friendly, and helpful. I doubt that any of us can say we
executed 100% of the time on everything we commit to.

I am a business owner myself. I would imagine the KR business, due to the
relatively small size of the community, is not a run to the bank with
wheelbarrows of money business for Steve. There has to be a lot of doing
this for the love of the plane and the community.

I am sorry that you didn't get the plans you want in the time frame you
wanted however from the thread it appears there was some miscommunication
going on. People deserve to be paid for their intellectual property and the
things they sell to run their business. Scanning of information that
represents someones livelihood is not right. You wouldn't want someone
taking your car out of your driveway.

Its time to take this out of the group list. Sorry for the long winded
response however I am involved here for the joy not the politics.

Alex Pearson
San Antonio, TX
210.365.3374
On Oct 12, 2014 8:15 AM, "Gary via KRnet"  wrote:

> I wasnt going to bring this up on the list but now feel I need to provide
> clarification.  I ordered my plans August 6. After a couple notes with
> Steve and Mark Langford I learned of the challenges Steve must deal with to
> get the plans. Also learned about Steve's schedule challenge with settings
> up the Gathering.  As a result I backed off.
>
> About the time of the gathering Steve told me he had my plans and would
> get then in the mail the next week. I've been patiently waiting since
> then.  Finally came to the conclusion I was not going to get them so
> requested Steve cancel my order.
>
> I guess if this makes me an ass then so be it.
>
>
> Gary Wold
>
>  Original message 
> From Robert Miller via KRnet 
> Date: 10/12/2014  12:24 PM  (GMT-06:00)
> To "Steve G." ,KRnet 
> Subject Re: KR> KR2S supplement
>
> Steve,
>
> I don't know all the problems you have had with operation of nvaero
> and i fully understand your frustration with penurious customers
> wanting fast food service: their net messages are indicative of their
> expectations and lack of understanding how nvaero was evolving.  All
> too often customers are a pain in the ass - some cannot be grateful
> and pleased no matter how hard you try. Please don't let a few AHs
> destroy your dream.  As you know, there are a lot of good KR people
> out here who are appreciative of your efforts.
>
> You and Mark are the base of KR support and it will not take much for
> the kr community to collapse because of lack of direction.  Avoiding
> the problems of selling components may be a good thing - if it can
> make you a comfortable KR guru.
>
> Thank you for your service. Your efforts are appreciated. I hope all
> this works out well for you and all of us
> KR net heads - we need your inputs.
>
> bob miller
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Steve G. via KRnet wrote:
>
> > I told him the refund was no problem. Interestingly, he said he had
> > kr2 plans so I recently told him he probably just needed the
> > supplement. Now he asks if someone would be so kind as to scan and
> > provide the 2S drawings for "review" he will be all set.
> >
> > It is in fact my goal to sell nothing so I can freely support all KR
> > builders and provide them with all our technical info.  Then you all
> > can build all our components.  I'm done with it. I quit.  Current
> > orders will be filled then doors are closed. Good luck!
> >
> > Steve Glover
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone 6
> >
> >> On Oct 11, 2014, at 19:48, Mark Langford via KRnet <
> krnet at list.krnet.org
> >> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Gary Wold wrote:
> >>
> >> After more than 2 months of waiting for the plans and a couple
> >> notes from Nvaero saying my order was going to sent I came to the
> >> conclusion that Nvaero is for whatever reason not interested in
> >> doing business with me. I requested they cancel my order and refund
> >> the price paid. Guess I'll find something else to build.Please go
> >> back to the archive (URL is listed at the bottom of every KRnet
> >> email) and search for nvAero, and you'll find this same thread from
> >> about two months ago.  KR plans delivery is not something Steve has
> >> control over.   I assure you if he could get them to you, he would
> >> have done it long ago...
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Mark Langford
> >> ML at N56ML.com
> >> http://www.n56ml.com
> >>
> >>
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KR> KR2S supplement

2014-10-12 Thread Gary 
I wasnt going to bring this up on the list but now feel I need to provide 
clarification. ?I ordered my plans August 6. After a couple notes with Steve 
and Mark Langford I learned of the challenges Steve must deal with to get the 
plans. Also learned about Steve's schedule challenge with settings up the 
Gathering. ?As a result I backed off.

About the time of the gathering Steve told me he had my plans and would get 
then in the mail the next week. I've been patiently waiting since then. 
?Finally came to the conclusion I was not going to get them so requested Steve 
cancel my order.

I guess if this makes me an ass then so be it.


Gary Wold

 Original message

KR> KR2S supplement

2014-10-12 Thread Michael Lineback 
Steve,

I am so very sorry to hear that you have had another customer that has
pushed you over the edge.  I sent you a private email asking you to
hang in there a few weeks back. Honestly it is pretty self serving on
my part to ask you to do so. My Wife's Cancer and treatments are taking
up all spare time and honestly cash, so even the relatively small amount
for plans is not in my budget right now. Priorities are what they are
and next year in the summer may be a go, not now.

There will always be jerks, impatient children who have never been told no,
and honestly those looking for a free handout.So for those of us
who appreciate your very hard work, contributions, and sacrifice to make
this little plane a realityThank You.

So please hang in there and this summer I plan on sending you a check for
the full amount of plans, supplement, shipping etc. for some KR2S plans.

Secondly if you have appreciated Steve and his work in the KR community
give him a shout out!

Thanks again,

Michael

On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Steve G. via KRnet 
wrote:

> I told him the refund was no problem. Interestingly, he said he had kr2
> plans so I recently told him he probably just needed the supplement. Now he
> asks if someone would be so kind as to scan and provide the 2S drawings for
> "review" he will be all set.
>
> It is in fact my goal to sell nothing so I can freely support all KR
> builders and provide them with all our technical info.  Then you all can
> build all our components.  I'm done with it. I quit.  Current orders will
> be filled then doors are closed. Good luck!
>
> Steve Glover
>
> Sent from my iPhone 6
>
> > On Oct 11, 2014, at 19:48, Mark Langford via KRnet 
> wrote:
> >
> > Gary Wold wrote:
> >
> > After more than 2 months of waiting for the plans and a couple notes
> from Nvaero saying my order was going to sent I came to the conclusion that
> Nvaero is for whatever reason not interested in doing business with me. I
> requested they cancel my order and refund the price paid. Guess I'll find
> something else to build.Please go back to the archive (URL is listed at the
> bottom of every KRnet email) and search for nvAero, and you'll find this
> same thread from about two months ago.  KR plans delivery is not something
> Steve has control over.   I assure you if he could get them to you, he
> would have done it long ago...
> >
> > --
> >
> > Mark Langford
> > ML at N56ML.com
> > http://www.n56ml.com
> >
> >
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KR> Proseal-fuel tank rivets

2014-10-12 Thread Dan Heath 
So you can get a perspective on this, the Panther calls for 2 pints of 3m AC 
Tech sealant at $48 each, so $96 for a quart.  The Vans sealant is Flamemaster 
at $39 for a quart kit, and this is what I used for the KR fuel tanks.  Proseal 
on the AC website is $316 for a quart.



Thanks for the like, saved me some searching.



My Panther Building Documentation at PantherBuilder Web Site 
 



Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

KR> Part's for sale

2014-10-12 Thread ppaulvsk 
PatS,
I don't know if my private email got to you. ?I'm coming through your area 
tomorrow. ?I'd like to see what you have for sale. ?Give me a call if you would 
like to get together.?

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618 406 4705


Sent on the new Sprint Network from my Samsung Galaxy S?4.

KR> Proseal-fuel tank rivets

2014-10-12 Thread Mike T 
Why not ask Aircraft Spruce?

Mike Taglieri
On Oct 11, 2014 8:31 PM, "cruzj12--- via KRnet" 
wrote:

> How much proseal do i need for sealing the rivets? My fuel tanks are 10"
> wide x 48# long  and tapered
> . I see Aircraft spruce sells 6 oz tubes . Maybe two tubes per wing tank?
>
> Joe Cruz
> cruzj12 at frontiernet.net
> KR1.5 N3151K
> KR2S builder
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KR> KR2S supplement

2014-10-12 Thread Mark Wegmet 
Buy someone's project; if you pay attention, you will save build time, get 
something well built, and get a full set of plans for less than you would spend 
for the materials. I have a KR2S and KR2 project (not for sale) and each came 
with a full set of plans, builders logs, etc. We all start with the idea that a 
KR is a hot rod, but basically it is an aviation equivalent to a motorcycle; 
small, fast, and you will need to pay attention. I haven't finished building 
the KR, but mine will weigh a little less than my HD Dyna Super Glide Custom 
and the KR will probably be a little faster. My cost will probably be about the 
same to build the plane as the bike cost.

Mark W.
N952MW(res.)

-Original Message-
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary via KRnet
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2014 9:04 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: KR> KR2S supplement

Would anyone be willing to send me a scan of the KR2S supplement?  

After more than 2 months of waiting for the plans and a couple notes from 
Nvaero saying my order was going to sent I came to the conclusion that Nvaero 
is for whatever reason not interested in doing business with me. I requested 
they cancel my order and refund the price paid. Guess I'll find something else 
to build.

I would just like to have a glimpse at what could have been.

Thanks


Gary Wold
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