KR> KR-2 spin /crash in Idaho

[Mac McConnell-Wood]

I seem to recall someone telling me they had to lean over the panel to get
some forward c of g in order to get out of a spin.

C of g is very important in a short coupled KR.
Over here the CAA stipulated C of G no further back than the rear face of
the main spar.   That was for the original short KR2 - and a long time ago.
Probably all changed now.
Cheers,
Mac   G-BVZJ

On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 8:43 PM, Parley T Byington via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> Date:  Sunday, Dec.7, 2014
>
> Contrary to some pilots out there, I would like to see the video in
> question.  Many things can be learned from the actions of others,
> especially when the actions involve life or death in aircraft.  I send my
> condolences to the family and friends of the pilot and feel that since he
> had a camera taking pictures of the flight, many of us could learn about
> the spin characteristics of the KR-2.  I feel that this particular pilot
> wanted to learn and possibly pass on his flight experiences to others and
> that is why he went to the trouble of installing the camera.  What a shame
> if we pilots don?t take advantage of his experience.
>
> I own N54PB which is a conventional, built to plans KR-2 with a 1830cc VW
> with turbo charger and retractable landing gear.  I have never spun my bird
> but had done rolls and stalls in it.  I have some training in spins in a
> Citabria over Apple Valley California back in the early 70s.  I also have
> about 4000 hours of jet simulator training in F-4s, DC-8, Dc-10, L-1011,
> B-727, and B757.
>
> Your thoughts may very.
>
> Thanks
> Parley Byington
> Byington1954 at embarqmail.com
> Henderson Nevada
> ___
> Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search.
> To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org
> please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html
> see http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change
> options
>

KR> Axel alignment

[Sid Wood]

I went with 20 inches per Joe Horton and several other recommendations 
derived from KR-2S operations.  My aircraft is a stock KR-2 with Diehl 
tri-gear and Diehl wing skins.
I measured the cg on my airplane using digital scales while climbing in and 
out, and also using sand bags to find the moment and tipping point.  I could 
easily make the aircraft tip with less than my full 200 pound weight trying 
to climb on or off with the wheels at 17 inches.  After playing with those 
data points on my Excel weight and balance spread sheet, I verified that 20 
inches would be the optimum number.  My KR-2 is still on the jack stands 
waiting for other changes.  These wheel location numbers have not been 
tested in operation on my KR-2 yet.  Your results may vary.

Sid Wood
Tri-gear KR-2 N6242
Mechanicsville, MD, USA



I'm about ready to drill my landing gear legs. Are we still at 20 inches aft 
of the leading edge for a tri gear? I just want to confirm. This is not a 
mistake that I want to make.?

Paul Visk
Belleville Il
618 406 4705

KR> EAA Sport Aviation Magazine

[Mark Wegmet]

If you read the article it also says that the FAA/NTSB is withholding the
video. It apparently shows the view over the pilot's right shoulder as he
spun in to his death... I don't think anyone really wants to see that.

-Original Message-
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Dan Heath via
KRnet
Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2014 7:09 AM
To: 'Mark Jones'; 'KRnet'
Subject: Re: KR> EAA Sport Aviation Magazine

Where is the link to the VIDEO?  I just looked at the article on line and
don't see one.  I believe they are referring to spinning a KR2 with a
Continental engine?  Is that so?



See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics 



2105 KR Gathering - McMinnville, OR.  September 3 - 6 -- See U There.



Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 



Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN





Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC





-Original Message-
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Jones
via KRnet
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 6:54 PM
To: KR Mail
Subject: KR> EAA Sport Aviation Magazine



I just received my December issue of EAA's Sport Aviation Magazine and the
story of the KR-2 "A Tragic Spin Test Video" is featured on pages 82 - 84.
That is two magazines it has made. Wonder how many more it will make.





Mark Jones (N886MJ)

Stevens Point, WI

E-mail:   flykr2s at charter.net

Web:   www.flykr2s.com

___

Search the KRnet Archives at  
http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search.

To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to
 KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see
other KRnet info at  
http://www.krnet.org/info.html see

http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change
options

___
Search the KRnet Archives at http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search.
To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org
please see other KRnet info at http://www.krnet.org/info.html see
http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change
options


---
This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
http://www.avast.com

KR> KR-2 spin /crash in Idaho

[Parley T Byington]

List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date:  Sunday, Dec.7, 2014

Contrary to some pilots out there, I would like to see the video in question.  
Many things can be learned from the actions of others, especially when the 
actions involve life or death in aircraft.  I send my condolences to the family 
and friends of the pilot and feel that since he had a camera taking pictures of 
the flight, many of us could learn about the spin characteristics of the KR-2.  
I feel that this particular pilot wanted to learn and possibly pass on his 
flight experiences to others and that is why he went to the trouble of 
installing the camera.  What a shame if we pilots don?t take advantage of his 
experience.

I own N54PB which is a conventional, built to plans KR-2 with a 1830cc VW with 
turbo charger and retractable landing gear.  I have never spun my bird but had 
done rolls and stalls in it.  I have some training in spins in a Citabria over 
Apple Valley California back in the early 70s.  I also have about 4000 hours of 
jet simulator training in F-4s, DC-8, Dc-10, L-1011, B-727, and B757.

Your thoughts may very.

Thanks
Parley Byington
Byington1954 at embarqmail.com
Henderson Nevada

KR> EAA Sport Aviation Magazine

[Mark Jones]

I do not think the actual video was released to the public. Here is the link to 
the article as it was in Flying magazine:
http://www.flyingmag.com/technique/accidents/aftermath-his-last-selfie


Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Stevens Point, WI
E-mail: flykr2s at charter.net
Web: www.flykr2s.com

  - Original Message - 
  From: Dan Heath 



  Where is the link to the VIDEO?  I just looked at the article on line and 
don't see one.  I believe they are referring to spinning a KR2 with a 
Continental engine?  Is that so?

KR> EAA Sport Aviation Magazine

[Patrick Driscoll]

Looking ahead a bit, are we Dan?
Patrick Driscoll
Saint Paul, MN
patrick36 at usfamily.net
www.pensbypat.com
If you can read this, Thank a teacher
If you are reading this in English, thank a veteran

KR> EAA Sport Aviation Magazine

[Dan Heath]

Where is the link to the VIDEO?  I just looked at the article on line and
don't see one.  I believe they are referring to spinning a KR2 with a
Continental engine?  Is that so?



See N64KR at   http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
the pics 



2105 KR Gathering - McMinnville, OR.  September 3 - 6 -- See U There.



Peoples Choice at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best KR at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Interior at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Paint at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 

Best Firwwall Forward at 2013 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN 



Best Interior and Panel at 2008 - KR Gathering in Mt. Vernon, Il - MVN





Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC





-Original Message-
From: KRnet [mailto:krnet-bounces at list.krnet.org] On Behalf Of Mark Jones
via KRnet
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 6:54 PM
To: KR Mail
Subject: KR> EAA Sport Aviation Magazine



I just received my December issue of EAA's Sport Aviation Magazine and the
story of the KR-2 "A Tragic Spin Test Video" is featured on pages 82 - 84.
That is two magazines it has made. Wonder how many more it will make.





Mark Jones (N886MJ)

Stevens Point, WI

E-mail:   flykr2s at charter.net

Web:   www.flykr2s.com

___

Search the KRnet Archives at  
http://tugantek.com/archmailv2-kr/search.

To UNsubscribe from KRnet, send a message to
 KRnet-leave at list.krnet.org please see
other KRnet info at  
http://www.krnet.org/info.html see

http://list.krnet.org/mailman/listinfo/krnet_list.krnet.org to change
options