KR> 1992 Oshkosh KR1 photo 1 of 2

2015-01-27 Thread Ed Janssen
Another shot of Gene's KR-1.  I sat next to him at the KR dinner that year. 
We had a nice conversation.  What stuck with me is that he mentioned that he 
had a bad head cold at the time.

Ed Janssen


-Original Message- 
From: James Babcock via KRnet
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 9:20 PM
To: Chris Prata ; KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> 1992 Oshkosh KR1 photo 1 of 2

I am pretty sure that KR-1 belonged to a friend of mine, Eugene (Gene) Darst 
from Beaumont, TX. He died in it on the way back from Oshkosh in Aug 1993. 
NTSB No  CH193DEE04.
Cause was listed as elevator cable failure. Rumor had it that he had been 
awarded a trophy at Oshkosh which jammed the control cable because of the 
limited space for baggage. Personally, that made sense to me. He was a fine 
pilot and craftsman.


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KR> KRnet Search Engine support, and PLEASE READ and comply with the RULES!

2015-01-27 Thread Mark Langford
KRnetHeads,

First, let me thank the kind folks who have graciously helped the cause 
of getting the KRnet Search Engine back up and running.  I really 
appreciate it.  It's the same few people who always come through.  Tom 
assures me he's working it. Your contributions will help him decide if 
he should be working our issue or working real "paying jobs".  That 
search engine contains every email to the list from 1995, so it's value 
is incalculable, especially to new users who want to "know everything" 
right now.

Also, I'm way overdue to remind people to PLEASE READ THE LIST RULES! 
They are posted at http://www.krnet.org/info.html, and clearly a lot of 
folks on the list now have never read them!  Please read and comply, or 
look for another KR list.  To be specific, trim the footer stuff out of 
your replies, as well as the vast majority of previous posts!  And if 
you don't have something useful to say, go talk to your dog instead of 
the list.  A lot of useless chatter makes the list more annoying, and 
some of the most knowledgeable veterans start wondering why they waste 
their time reading the list (including me).  I'm not trying to stifle 
real KR information exchange (although these emails from me always have 
that effect), just don't get off topic and start making small talk. 
Many of us don't have time for small talk...let's keep to KR stuff, or 
at least aviation.

I give up trying to train people to post photos to the list.  The vast 
majority take them out of their cameras and phones and send 2M files 
direct to the list, andit doesn't work!  I've posted instructions 
several times on the simple process to reduce the size to something 
reasonable and then compress the files, but apparently it's over the 
heads of many.  So I've raised the limit to 250k (and about 30k of that 
is consumed by text, depending on your verbosity).  If that doesn't work 
for you, spend another few minutes and figure out how to make the image 
smaller, or send a link.

Again, please read the list rules under "KRNetiquette" at 
http://www.krnet.org/info.html, and follow them.  I've updated them a 
bit to clarify a few thingsplease check them out.

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KR> 1992 Oshkosh KR1 photo 1 of 2

2015-01-27 Thread James Babcock
I am pretty sure that KR-1 belonged to a friend of mine, Eugene (Gene) Darst 
from Beaumont, TX. He died in it on the way back from Oshkosh in Aug 1993. NTSB 
No  CH193DEE04. 
Cause was listed as elevator cable failure. Rumor had it that he had been 
awarded a trophy at Oshkosh which jammed the control cable because of the 
limited space for baggage. Personally, that made sense to me. He was a fine 
pilot and craftsman. 


> On Jan 27, 2015, at 6:57 PM, "Chris Prata via KRnet"  list.krnet.org> wrote:
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> Took this at 1992 Oshkosh. Wonder whose it is/was? Nice example of a KR1  
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KR> Can We Increase Photo Size Limit Please?

2015-01-27 Thread Chris Prata
I agree but it's one more complication, more steps, more logging in. If we had 
a slightly larger size limit that would be by far simplest to get reasonable 
visual clarity to the group to make a point or share an idea.



> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 19:00:24 -0600
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> Can We Increase Photo Size Limit Please?
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> 
> 
> An easy way to share high quality photos is to open a "dropbox" 
> account and then just give the address of a photo(s) you want to 
> share such as https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8717.JPG
> 
> in the body of the e-mail.
> 
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KR> antivirus software

2015-01-27 Thread Chris Prata
I'll toss kine in there too, I researched and decided to use COMODO antivirus 
and smart firewall, free version. It got the highest ratings in one roundup I 
read in 2014.
They're all good or better today. Malwarebytes is a great thing to run weekly 
as well
(20 year I.T. field tech)

> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 18:54:35 -0600
> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: KR> antivirus software
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> 
> At 06:40 PM 1/27/2015, you wrote:
> >Check AVG or Avast for free antivirus;
> 
> ++
> 
> I have been using the FREE ZoneAlarm antivirus + firewall for many 
> years now and have not had a single problem.  I've also downloaded 
> the "Malwarebytes" software and do a scan every week or two.  It does 
> a good job of finding little bugs hiding in your software.
> 
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KR> 1992 Oshkosh KR1 photo 2 of 2

2015-01-27 Thread Chris Prata









Took this at 1992 Oshkosh. Wonder whose it is/was? Nice example of a KR1

  
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KR> Can We Increase Photo Size Limit Please?

2015-01-27 Thread Flesner


An easy way to share high quality photos is to open a "dropbox" 
account and then just give the address of a photo(s) you want to 
share such as https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/32133949/IMG_8717.JPG

in the body of the e-mail.

Larry Flesner




KR> how to share photos to list?

2015-01-27 Thread Mark Wegmet
Check AVG or Avast for free antivirus; I currently have Avast, but have used
both - they each have free versions for personal use so there is no reason
to go unprotected.

Mark W
N952MW

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via KRnet
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:56 PM
To: krnet at list.krnet.org
Subject: Re: KR> how to share photos to list?

On 1/26/2015 9:22 PM, gluejam via KRnet wrote:
>  But some of us don't use Facebook...
> --
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> On 1/26/2015 9:00 PM, Phillip Hill via KRnet wrote:
>> Facebook page...https://www.facebook.com/groups/KR2S.aircraft/
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Chris Prata via KRnet 
>> >> wrote:
>>> ok after the posts about who lived with their project, I found an 
>>> old photo from 1994 of my 150sq ft efficiency apartment with a KR1 
>>> sitting in it.  But I tried to share it to the list from onedrive 
>>> and it wouldnt let me.
>>> Whats the best way since it seems we cannot share pics (which we 
>>> should be able to I would say).
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KR> FW: how to share photos to list?

2015-01-27 Thread Dj Merrill
On 1/27/2015 2:59 PM, Chris Prata wrote:
> actually no longer have the asteroids but there is online flash 
> versions to fix the urge!
>

If I have the itch, I think I have it covered...  :-)

http://deej.net/atari/

I don't have any stand-up systems, though.  Like you said, they take up 
a lot of space!

-Dj

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KR> FW: how to share photos to list?

2015-01-27 Thread Chris Prata



actually no longer have the asteroids but there is online flash versions to fix 
the urge!
no space. originally, I bought that as a Christmas gift for my little nephew. 
many years later my uncle said it had stopped working, so he gave it back. I 
found a used mainboard and got it working again. but due to space reasons, sold 
it. The middle-aged buyer came, handed me $400 at the time, and of course it 
was plugged in to demo. but he wouldnt stop playing it. I said "we really 
should get this loaded up in ur truck!"  LOL hope it didnt cause him a 
divorce... lol  yeah that thing was fun.
If you have the itch, you can play it in flash. very accurate. 
http://www.mspacman4u.com/asteroids/
and
http://my.ign.com/atari/asteroids

Also, I found a flash SWF Asteroids file to download a long time ago which I 
have, but my media player wont play it anymore!



> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 10:31:53 -0500
> To: chrisprata at live.com; krnet at list.krnet.org
> Subject: Re: KR> FW: how to share photos to list?
> From: deej at deej.net
> 
> On 1/26/2015 11:39 PM, Chris Prata via KRnet wrote:
> > My old 1-room efficiency apartment 1994.
> 
> I am jealous of the Asteroids arcade system!  :-)
> 
> Please tell me you still have it.  That would be awesome!
> 
> -Dj
> 
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KR> Tri-Gear Retracts?

2015-01-27 Thread Chris Kinnaman
There are a couple of retractable trigear setups shown in the newsletter 
archives.

Chris

On 1/25/2015 10:23 AM, Chris Prata via KRnet wrote:
> not to mention "the unlikely event of a water landing"  lol
> thanks all info appreciated while I try to explore which way to go.
>
>> To: ml at n56ml.com; krnet at list.krnet.org
>> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 18:06:02 +0100
>> Subject: Re: KR> Tri-Gear Retracts?
>> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
>>
>> Hi, check the website http://members.upc.nl/a.gremmen61/  At the pics 2005 
>> you can see the gear system of the cherry bx2. It is nice but also wat mark 
>> just noted, it will be add weight. The only positif I think is the dead 
>> engine outfield landing. It will save you from a tip over.
>> Stef
>>
>> --
>> Steph and his dad are building the KR-2S see   
>> http://www.masttotaalconcept.nl/kr2
>>   
>>   
>>
>>
>>> Origineel Bericht
>>> Van : krnet at list.krnet.org
>>> Datum : 25/01/2015 16:23
>>> Aan : krnet at list.krnet.org
>>> Onderwerp : Re: KR> Tri-Gear Retracts?
>>>
>>> Oh, and the most important reason to go with fixed gear (I can't believe
>>> I left this one out) is the GEAR-UP landing!  I built mine fixed because
>>> I knew if I had retracts, my first landing would be a gear-up landing,
>>> and my third, and my 10th...etc.  I later proved that theory, although I
>>> made it to 93 landings in my 68 year-old Swift before actually
>>> fulfilling that prophecy!
>>>
>>> There's another school of thought that if you have to land in a field
>>> because of an engine out, damage will be minimized.  In a smooth field
>>> big enough to pull that off, it's true.  But in the case of my hayfield
>>> landing, I needed all the friction I could get.  Without it I was going
>>> to hit a stand of trees that would have totaled the plane, if not me.
>>>
>>> I'm not trying to discourage you from building retracts or tri-gear
>>> retracts, but you've come to the table with lots of ideas on how to do
>>> things different, and they will all increase building time accordingly,
>>> perhaps exponentially.  That's fine, and I'm a poster child for the
>>> concept, but be prepared to spend a long time accomplishing all your
>>> goals. I'm certainly not saying to "build is by the plans", because the
>>> plans are lacking in many ways.  But choose your modifications
>>> carefully.  As William Wynne likes to say, every day spent building is
>>> another day you are closer to losing your medical.  Hopefully that issue
>>> will be relaxed soon, but you get the point.
>>>
>>> But as much as I enjoyed building and proving that I can improve the
>>> design and persevere to the end, I can tell you that flying is a lot
>>> more fun than building, at least for me!
>>>
>>> Mark Langford
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KR> how to share photos to list?

2015-01-27 Thread John Edwards
On 1/26/2015 9:22 PM, gluejam via KRnet wrote:
>  But some of us don't use Facebook...
> 
>
> On 1/26/2015 9:00 PM, Phillip Hill via KRnet wrote:
>> Facebook page...https://www.facebook.com/groups/KR2S.aircraft/
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:57 PM, Chris Prata via KRnet 
>> >> wrote:
>>> ok after the posts about who lived with their project, I found an old
>>> photo from 1994 of my 150sq ft efficiency apartment with a KR1 
>>> sitting in
>>> it.  But I tried to share it to the list from onedrive and it 
>>> wouldnt let
>>> me.
>>> Whats the best way since it seems we cannot share pics (which we 
>>> should be
>>> able to I would say).
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KR> FW: KRnet archive donation request

2015-01-27 Thread Raymond Fuenzalida
Just sent my $25.00 also.

Ray_pilot
New Orleans

Ray_pilot
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On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Pete Klapp via KRnet  wrote:

>
>
> From: pkengr at hotmail.com
> To: ml at n56ml.com
> Subject: RE: KR> KRnet archive donation request
> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 13:32:36 -0500
>
>
>
>
> Sent @25.00. Well worth it for the info this site has provided for me.
> Pete Klapp
>
> > Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:31:50 -0600
> > To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> > Subject: KR> KRnet archive donation request
> > From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> >
> > KRnetHeads,
> >
> > Tom Tugan, the guy who saved the KRnet Search Engine from extinction
> > when Rick Maddy was no longer able to support it without a major rework,
> > is working to restore it back to service.  He's run out of space on
> > whatever service he's using, and and is cleaning house trying to make
> > enough room to get it back up again.  I asked if it was time for a round
> > of donations, and his reply was something like "that would help
> > determine how and if I can manage enough disk space to continue".  I
> > sent him $100 through PayPal (he's at tugantek at yahoo.com), and encourage
> > others to send something as well.  The built-in MailMan archive is
> > almost useless by comparison.  The Search Engine allows you to filter
> > several ways, including the sender, date, subject, keywords...all that
> > kind of stuff.
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KR> FW: how to share photos to list?

2015-01-27 Thread Dj Merrill
On 1/26/2015 11:39 PM, Chris Prata via KRnet wrote:
> My old 1-room efficiency apartment 1994.

I am jealous of the Asteroids arcade system!  :-)

Please tell me you still have it.  That would be awesome!

-Dj

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KR> foam and glass observations

2015-01-27 Thread n357cj

Good Morning Guys,
I have been starting to glass a few things on the current project and have 
a coupe observations from last time til now. I used a verity of different foams 
on 357Cj. The tail group was all dow foam from 1, 2, and 3 inch stock. The 
wings were from 4 inch roofing insulation that was a cured foam with a skin on 
each side. This foam was very similar in nature to what we commonly are 
referring to as the KR foam as ordered from the kit spec's.
   The Dow foam is more difficult or time consuming to shape and sand but to me 
not a deal breaker. The other observation concerning this and other similar 
foams (pink or some other color of this type of density) is that I feel that 
the bond from glass to foam is far better. The sanding chance of damage is far 
reduced by the harder density also. (scratches and dings or over sanding)
  The foam that I used for 357CJ wings had resonably good bond and I just had 
to use more care when sanding. The big difference here is this is the only 
place that I expereinced bubbles in the glass well after the plane was 
completed. A couple started showing up with inn the first 6 month's of being in 
a hanger. They were pretty stable and not much change over the past 9 years 
until the trip to the gathering this year. The bubbles got bigger by enough to 
notice during that trip. 
   I installed and glassed over the first piece that I have ever used the real 
KR spec'd foam. I am not real thrilled with the bond. I vacumed the foam before 
I glassed and did the skim coating of micro. The foam just does not have the 
ability to hold as well in my opinion for the same reason that it is easy to 
sand. From looking at other KR's that I know used this foam the bubbles 
(blisters may be a better term) are common.
   I have also used and won't again spray foam to make fillets and bond foams 
together. The fillets all blistered to some degree and when used as a bond 
between 2 pieces of foam the spray foam is a denser foam and makes it difficult 
to sand level. A hard ridge is form by this type of foam.
  I'm saying what should be done or even that I know how I am going to continue 
but just raw information to digest.
Joe Horton
Coopersburg, Pa




KR> how to share photos to list?

2015-01-27 Thread Phillip Hill
Links to pictures in dropboxes and other locations work too.


On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:14 AM, Adam Tippin via KRnet <
krnet at list.krnet.org> wrote:

> we can share photos. They just need to be reduced in size to less than
> 100kb.
> its to allow people with slower internet connections to still enjoy the
> list.
> > On Jan 27, 2015, at 12:22 AM, gluejam via KRnet 
> wrote:
> >
> > But some of us don't use Facebook...
> > 
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KR> FW: how to share photos to list?

2015-01-27 Thread Adam Tippin
Clearly came through


> On Jan 26, 2015, at 11:39 PM, Chris Prata via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> See if this one comes through. shrunk it to 57k
> My old 1-room efficiency apartment 1994. 
> 



KR> how to share photos to list?

2015-01-27 Thread Adam Tippin
we can share photos. They just need to be reduced in size to less than 100kb.
its to allow people with slower internet connections to still enjoy the list.
> On Jan 27, 2015, at 12:22 AM, gluejam via KRnet  
> wrote:
> 
> But some of us don't use Facebook...
> 




KR> Photo test

2015-01-27 Thread Chris Prata
Came Through!  

List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 22:35:23 -0700
To: krnet at list.krnet.org
Subject: KR> Photo test
From: krnet at list.krnet.org

Lets see if this works:  (photo copyright by k-46.com, but it's OK for 
me to use)




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KR> Hours to build?

2015-01-27 Thread Eric James Pitts
Don't let him kid you Rob has one hell of a nice air plane.?Eric Pitts
Terre Haute, Ind.

"Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving 
safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in 
sideways, chocolate in one hand, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and 
screaming "WOO HOO what a ride!"
? 

 On Monday, January 26, 2015 7:32 PM, Robert7721 via KRnet  wrote:


 Chris

I think the main reason my hours are low compared to the others is I kept it 
simple. I did not deviate from the plans hardly at all. No flaps, only a header 
gas tank. My VW engine was purchased used, but all in on piece so I really just 
bolted one on versus building one. No fancy interior, painted it myself. I did 
scratch build my wings, but bought a cowl. No other prefab parts. My weight 
came in fine 600 pounds. I am an engineer and a pretty good mechanic, but it 
was my 1st aircraft build. I've never won any awards for my airplane for its 
appearance, but I also now over 620 hours flying her. Made it to California in 
it to the KR gathering from Kansas City. I've flown over 100 Young Eagles, too 
many breakfast flights to count. She's a keeper. 

More details on my web site at

Www.robert7721.com

Rob Schmitt


Sent from my iPad

> On Jan 26, 2015, at 5:56 PM, Chris Prata  wrote:
> 
> This is great to get these totals. 
> 
> I do plan to buy the wing skins. Probably fab everything else per the 
> original way.
> 
> A full time job is 2000 hours per year.
> 
> Robert, 1500 hours is on the low side of these times. Did you use any prefab 
> parts like wing skins? what was ur experience prior to starting to build the 
> KR? and why would you say you were faster than others? skill, work 
> environment, tools?
> 
> My current house doesnt have a garage. I do have a 20x30 fabric hangar at the 
> airport but it's three season due to the bottom has to be open for wind 
> compliance (which makes it complaint to over 100MPH winds).? Of course there 
> is nothing stopping me from (I JUST realized!!!) building a 16x20 work shed 
> INSIDE my hangar, and heat it with a herosene heater or something to get 4 
> seasons out of it!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > CC: chrisprata at live.com
> > From: robert7721 at aol.com
> > Subject: Re: KR> Hours to build?
> > Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 11:11:06 -0600
> > To: gary769rv at verizon.net; krnet at list.krnet.org
> > 
> > 1500 hours, less than $15k with basic instruments and used Revmaster VW. 
> > 
> > 
> > > On Jan 26, 2015, at 8:37 AM, Gary via KRnet  
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > hour & $$$
> > > 
> > > Chris Prata via KRnet  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Min 1500 hours, $29k and counting but with new o200 & glass panel.
> > > 
> > > Gary
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Here's another noob question. How many hours does a KR1 take to build? I 
> > > know it can really vary, but I'm hoping a few answers will come through 
> > > and give me a ball park.
> > > Magazines used to say you could build one for $400, in about 40 hours, 
> > > and it would go supersonic. But now we have almost 50 years on the design 
> > > (can you BELIEVE that!) so realistic numbers are avail.
> > > OH, what kind of $$$ have builders spent in recent build?
> > > KR2 info ok too, they are prob similar ballpark $ and time. 
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