KR> Fuselage to wing fairings? Stregga

2016-05-27 Thread Mark Wegmet
http://www.platinumfighters.com/#!strega/c2113

Strega is for sale - 2.65MM. Buy two, they're small. :) 

Mark W.
N952MW (res)

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Pete Klapp wrote:

>> I recently read that Mark Langford noted that Strega does 


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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

2016-05-27 Thread Adam
No worries mate. 
I make mistakes too

Adam Tippin
A KR2S builder

> On May 27, 2016, at 5:06 PM, John Martindale via KRnet  list.krnet.org> wrote:
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> Whoops red faces, misread Adam's message..sorry mate you're totally correct.
> John
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> Not sure geometry bears that one out, Adam :-)
> 2piR/4 is less than 2R
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> To add my .02 worth. Fillet or not Fillet?
> The common target for our KR is light and fast. 
> That being said, the less surface area, the less drag. An L shaped corner
> has more surface area than a concave "(" shape of same height/length. 
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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

2016-05-27 Thread Adam
12h + 12L = 24 surface area

12r x 3.14 = 37.68/4= 9.42 surface area. 
I win

Adam Tippin
A KR2S builder

> On May 27, 2016, at 4:58 PM, John Martindale via KRnet  list.krnet.org> wrote:
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> Not sure geometry bears that one out, Adam :-)
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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

2016-05-27 Thread Adam
To add my .02 worth. Fillet or not Fillet?
The common target for our KR is light and fast. 
That being said, the less surface area, the less drag. An L shaped corner has 
more surface area than a concave "(" shape of same height/length. 

Adam




KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

2016-05-27 Thread Pete Klapp
Thanks Mark. 

> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 12:58:50 -0500
> Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: ml at n56ml.com
> 
> Pete Klapp wrote:
> 
>  >>What are you leaning towards? If the fuselage sides are vertical as 
> mine are, is a small fillets okay?<<
> 
> I'd probably do it much like before, except (as I mentioned on the 
> website) I'd run the wing skins all the way to the fuselage and use a 
> small micro fillet on the front part, and where (if) the fuselage starts 
> diverging before the trailing edge I'd transition to a larger fillet 
> like the one I did.
> 
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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

2016-05-27 Thread Mark Langford
Pete Klapp wrote:

 >>What are you leaning towards? If the fuselage sides are vertical as 
mine are, is a small fillets okay?<<

I'd probably do it much like before, except (as I mentioned on the 
website) I'd run the wing skins all the way to the fuselage and use a 
small micro fillet on the front part, and where (if) the fuselage starts 
diverging before the trailing edge I'd transition to a larger fillet 
like the one I did.


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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

2016-05-27 Thread Pete Klapp
MarkSO!!! What are you leaning towards? If the fuselage sides are 
vertical as mine are, is a small fillets okay? My fuselage starts to taper into 
prior to trailing edge of the wing so maybe a larger, broader fillet there 
would be a good thing?!Any thoughts?Pete

> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 09:56:52 -0500
> Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?
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> CC: ml at n56ml.com
> 
> HA!  After reading my own stub wing website, I did say that about an 
> airplane...Nemesis, and then recommended exactly what Pete mentioned...a 
> simple micro fillet between the joints.  It's a good thing I did this 
> website...so I'd know how to build my next one the fast and "good enough 
> for KR work" way...
> 
> http://www.n56ml.com/fillets.html
> 
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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

2016-05-27 Thread Pete Klapp



MarkSorry I got you wrong as the author. Maybe your name was somewhere in the 
post and I thought you had said it. Strega is a highly modified P-51 pylon 
racer, Reno air race type.So based on what you and Larry have done, it looks 
like I'm doing wing root fillets.Thanks, Pete

> To: krnet at list.krnet.org
> Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 09:39:38 -0500
> Subject: Re: KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?
> From: krnet at list.krnet.org
> CC: ml at n56ml.com
> 
> Pete Klapp wrote:
> 
> >> I recently read that Mark Langford noted that Strega does not have
> >> large radius fillets. You'd think they would have them as they are
> >> trying tosqueeze every mph that they can from that airframe
> 
> I don't remember saying that about any airplane, and am not sure what a 
> Strega is (Google says "italian for witch" and an Italian liquor).
> 
> I put a fairly large fillet radius between wing and fuselage, using a 3" 
> diameter cardboard tube with some 36 grit floor sander adhesive belt 
> wrapped around it.  4" PVC pipe works fine too. It knocked that job out 
> rather quickly, although glassing any inside radius is a bit of a pain 
> in the butt.  See http://www.n56ml.com/fillets.html for excruciating 
> details on how I did my wing root fillets.  Despite fretting over it for 
> years, the actual job went pretty quickly once I set my mind to it...
> 
> Mark Langford
> ML at N56ML.com
> http://www.n56ml.com
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KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

2016-05-27 Thread Mark Langford
HA!  After reading my own stub wing website, I did say that about an 
airplane...Nemesis, and then recommended exactly what Pete mentioned...a 
simple micro fillet between the joints.  It's a good thing I did this 
website...so I'd know how to build my next one the fast and "good enough 
for KR work" way...

http://www.n56ml.com/fillets.html

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com




KR> Fuselage to wing fairings?

2016-05-27 Thread Mark Langford
Pete Klapp wrote:

>> I recently read that Mark Langford noted that Strega does not have
>> large radius fillets. You'd think they would have them as they are
>> trying tosqueeze every mph that they can from that airframe

I don't remember saying that about any airplane, and am not sure what a 
Strega is (Google says "italian for witch" and an Italian liquor).

I put a fairly large fillet radius between wing and fuselage, using a 3" 
diameter cardboard tube with some 36 grit floor sander adhesive belt 
wrapped around it.  4" PVC pipe works fine too. It knocked that job out 
rather quickly, although glassing any inside radius is a bit of a pain 
in the butt.  See http://www.n56ml.com/fillets.html for excruciating 
details on how I did my wing root fillets.  Despite fretting over it for 
years, the actual job went pretty quickly once I set my mind to it...

Mark Langford
ML at N56ML.com
http://www.n56ml.com




KR> Flight Test Progress

2016-05-27 Thread Tony King
"found the right leg interfering with left stick movement; removed my
wallet for a fix"

Your wallet must be fatter than mine :-)

Good detail in your reports.  Keep it up.

Cheers,

Tony