KR> 1835 great planes engine for sale

[Coda Riley]

Anyone needing a 1835 vw great planes with diehl accessory case,,electric 
start,,charging system,,,turnkey ready to go,,see it fly,,$2750 
ObO,,,(918)658-4028,,,Poteau, Oklahoma,,,or will swap it for a 582 rotax or 
high HP 2 cycle.  Thank's,

  Coda Riley


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KR> don't miss this flyin,,tons of fun

[Coda Riley]

FLYIN @ POTEAU, OKLA • YOU'RE INVITED • Balloon popping, flower bomb drop, spot 
landing, and other activities.Top Fun Flyers Association 1st.annual flyin. RKR, 
Poteau, Oklahoma, camping area at airport avaliable, if you want to showcase 
your product, airplane, contact me, May12 and 13, ultra, exp, paragliders, GA, 
etc, lots of fun flying. • Contact Coda Riley - located Howe, OK USA • 
Telephone: 918 658-2371 •

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KR> what to keep,,how serious are you about flying?

[Coda Riley]

I met my wife on the way to a flyin,,,right off,,she knew what I was all about. 
 You guess who I'd keep if my plane became an issue.  My highschool sweetheart 
told me it was her or flying way back in 1991,,,I havn't seen her since.  
LOL,,,the truth!!

  Coda


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KR> landing a taildragger

[Coda Riley]

I grew up watching, in my opinion, the best pilot's in the world.  Crop duster 
pilot's.  I think they land,sometime's, on the roughest and crooked runway's.  
In watching them for year's,,,I could tell that there wasn't really a right or 
wrong way to land a taildragger.  It was a matter of preference.  Unless it was 
a short strip requiring a 3 point landing (dragging it in), usually it was a 
two point landing,,but still, there were pilot's who did 3 point landing's.  If 
you asked them (which I did) what or why, it was alway's a different answer, 
stemming from, a two point landing on a rough field was harder on the plane, to 
a two point landing being easier, or a two point landing being harder.  No two 
pilot's did it alike.  Funny thing is,,they were all incredible pilots.  IN all 
of the year's of watching these guy's land duster's from the loader truck,,I"ve 
never seen one groundlooped.  They all say they got that out of their system 
way back. LOLhappy flying,

  Coda


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KR> fly to RKR 122.8, Poteau, Oklahoma

[Coda Riley]

Hi Ya'll,

   Do consider flying to RKR, Poteau, Oklahoma.  We have a fly-in/lunch  
the second Saturday of every month, food served @ 12 noon.  Unfortunately, our 
airport is closed for improvement's this month.  Feel free to fly in 
anytime,,,get a full belly on the house, and enjoy some good fellowship (plane 
talk).

  Coda
  pswhat is compatable to a Dan Diehl supercase engine mount?  Corvair bolt 
up to it?


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KR> Geo engine installation

[Coda Riley]

Okay, i have a Geo metro with a raven gear drive reduction.  I think it put's 
out around 90 hp.  What is ya'lls thought's?  I'm thinking of putting it on my 
KR-2.  Think it'll do the trick?

  Coda


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KR> kr stuff

[Coda Riley]

I have a KR-2 tri that I'm going to put back into the air.  I'm wondering about 
a sliding canopy.  Anyone had any lead's or perhap's have one collecting dust 
that they'd like to sell or even donate?  I'm also looking for a turnkey engine 
possibly.

  Coda


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KR> kr' n junk

[Coda Riley]

I'm so glad I live in the country.  Gotta have a place to store that 
old corvair till the engine's out.  (finally out last week) My runway is now a 
horse pasture, my plane's have required more than 800ft. of runway, so now I 
have methane producer's mowing my field.  Hard to throw away "good stuff".

  Coda


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KR> engine cost's

[Coda Riley]

I have been following this group for a while, and admire what goes on in exp. 
aviation.  Hearing the stories, the work, and adventure that come's out of 
KR'N, make's me wanna get mine going that much quicker.  I have a corvair 
engine, out of a car.  It's going to need the full "whammy" to get it in 
aircraft order.  I see other's putting VW's in their plane's.  My question is, 
how much on average does one spend building a VW or a corvair.  From what I've 
seen and heard, isn't a good used 85 or 100 hp cont. a better value?  Just  
covering my options.

  Coda


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KR> corvair engine

[Coda Riley]

I have a KR-2 with tri gear,,no engine,,,was thinking about engine option's.  
Just happen's I have a corvair with engine still in the car in my pasture.  
Hasn't been started in 10 year's, but I tied a chain to it,,have my wife pull 
me behind the truck,,and I popped the clutch,,it started turning over,,and I 
watched as the oil pressure gauge kicked right up to 40 psi.  I have not tried 
to start it,,and am in fact pulling it as we speak.  I am wondering what kind 
of motor mount I'd need to mount the corvair engine on the KR,,and what I'm 
needing to do to get the weight and balance right.  It's not a stretch,,,it's 
the standard KR-2.  This has probably been covered in archives,,,so if someone 
is willing to lead me in the right direction, i'd be thankful of the help.  
Also,,anyone tell me how to recertify this bird,,,it' was flying in the 
90's,,but was sold and decertified by the owner.  Thank's for any info I can 
get.  

  Coda Riley
  Poteau, Okla.
  (918)658-4028


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KR> kr-2 parts

[Coda Riley]

I have a KR-2,,,no engine or prop (no firewall forward).  I already have a 
cowling on it,,,I think it fit's VW engine's.  Will it fit a corvair engine or 
do I have to get a longer cowling.  If that's the case,,,I'd swap this corvair 
engine for a VW engine of 1835 or larger.  I weigh 240lbs,,,so is this KR going 
to be a glorified single place, or will I be able to take smaller people?  I 
want to keep it light,,and simple.  Very basic VFR panel,,not the kitchen sink 
like some exp.'s I've seen in the past.  My need's are very basic,,,hand held 
GPS is plentiful for me.  I dont'  plan on trip's over 400 mile's,,and those 
would be only several time's a year,,mostly local 50 mile run's max.  I have a 
canopy on it ,,,but I'd like something with more "bubble,,and the tank is 
aluminum, and I think it feel's like it weigh's 50 lbs,,very heavy.  The panel 
covering the tank is aluminum,,and I'd like to change it to 
fiberglass,,,keeping it removable like this aluminum panel.  My need's
 are quite simple,,just needing engine, prop, and some "attaboy's" to keep me 
motivated and on my way.  Is there any KR's flying around the Fort Smith, 
Arkansas area?  I think that will also motivate me.  OH yea,,one more 
thing,,,is there a KR-2 out there that would get me up as a passenger?  If 
not,,how much do I need to lose?  LOLI've been flying ultra's and 
cessnas',,,and owned and flown the vp-1,,,and a fisher youngster.  How does the 
handling of a KR-2 compare to a 172, vp-1,,fisher youngster,,,  Mine is a 
tri gear,,so I know I have an advantage to the tricky handling.  Lemme know 
ya'll,,  

  Coda Riley
  Poteau, Oklahoma


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KR> engine outs

[Coda Riley]

I was reading the engine out advice and granted,,,practice help's ,,but we have 
to keep in mind,,the windmilling prop of an idling engine is going to decrease 
your glide ratio,,so for the stopped prop,,,you might overshoot your intended 
touchdown by quite a bit.  In flying ultralight's and exp. aircraft over the 
year's, I can attest to that first hand.  Just my two bit's.  Also,,in 
describing the handling of the KR-2,,,I know from different pilot's,,one's 
going to come away with different description's.  I have time in mooneys, 
grummans, and even a long easy.  Aside from being overly pitch sensitive,,,it 
was an awesome bird to fly.  I hear that might describe a KR-2.

  Coda


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KR> engine outs

[Coda Riley]

I know my VW stopped as well after quitting,,because of high compression and 
short prop,,,same as ultralight's,,two cycle engine's with reduction drive,,and 
low speed stop's the prop,,,I was implying practicing dead stick landing's with 
pulling throttle,,therefore, the prop is still spinning.  Just my two cent's, 
but not applying to the KR-2,,then windmilling props during deadstick practice 
would be accurate.

  Coda

Mark Langford  wrote:
  I did a flight test in my KR2S a few weeks ago to check the facts on 
windmilling props and glide ratio. Two tests from 10,000' (one with engine 
on, one with it off) proved to me that there is no appreciable difference in 
glide rate between engine idling and engine off. Engine off in a VW or 
Corvair engine mean the prop is stopped, rather than windmilling, so that 
may be the difference in KR "real world" and "conventional wisdom". Short 
props and high compression ratios keep the prop from windmilling when the 
engine is off. I did these tests because I wanted to know what my real 
glide rate was (13.5:1 in present configuration) and because I wanted to 
know if my glide rate would improve with the engine off.

Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
see KR2S project N56ML at http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net 


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