KR> N64KR - Black Bird

[Frank Ross]

Dan,
  Congratulations, you've really earned that flight and I'm glad everything 
went so well. I know you'll take your time and do it right and I also know all 
of us are hoping to get to see it in person real soon.
  Frank Ross
  now in University Place, WA, near McChord AFB, WA
  missing East Anglia and San Geronimo, TX

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KR> Scott Crossfield

[Frank Ross]

What Stephen reports is exactly what I read. There will be more, but he was 
doing what he loved best and he did it for as long as he could. 
  Frank

Stephen Teate  wrote:
The report I just read was off Yahoo news. The reporter said
thunderstorms were in the area, he was flying a Cessna 210A, and it
happened around 11:15 am. Don't know if any of that is true.

Stephen
Paradise, Texas

-Original Message-
From: krnet-boun...@mylist.net [mailto:krnet-boun...@mylist.net] 
  Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 3:11 PM
To: KRnet
Subject: Re: KR> Scott Crossfield

What happened? did you hear?

Jeff York




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KR> Glassing the fuse

[Frank Ross]

Steve,
  There was a very lengthy discussion on using Kevlar a few years ago. One of 
the guys had a large amount he came upon free or nearly so and the final 
decision was that it was not worth the effort unless you were pretty sure you'd 
be taking small-arms-fire.
  Save the Kevlar for pulling over yourself when you get flamed on KRnet...
  Glassing the fuselage is not necessary, but if you do, I am pretty sure you'd 
want to use the very lightest glass you can as it is not necessary for 
strength, only to add smoothness, but it will add unecessary weight. 
  Frank


Steve Bray <rsb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Netters

I'm at the point to either glass or paint the wood. Larry sez to do it for 
strength and slick which makes sense
to me. I've got some Kelvar that I don't know what to do with but not enough 
to do the job. Shoud I buy enough
to complete the job or use glass? I haven't come up with a way to cut the 
stuff as yet.
I've looked in the archives and only found one related message that didn't 
say much.
My plans are old and don't say anything that I can find. Is this standard 
procedure ?

Thanks,
Steve Bray
Jackson, Tennessee


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KR> Scott Crossfield

[Frank Ross]

Just saw the news that one of my heroes, 84 year-old Scott Crossfield, died in 
a small plane crash in Georgia yesterday. I had the honor of seeing him in 
person when I was a young Airman at Edwards AFB in 1959 and watched from the 
ground as he flew the X-15. One of many amazing pilots and aviation pioneers. 
Some guys never stop flying...
  Frank Ross


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KR> Sanding seminar

[Frank Ross]

Just how exactly are you holding that sandpaper?
  ;]
  Frank

wcraw...@cmhc-schl.gc.ca wrote:
  Ron, you are correct, in my haste to get the message out so quickly I 
spelled the product wrong, it is in fact "ARMORALL", no "U" and two LL's
Insofar as Golf balls are concerned, well I don't fly golf balls, but the 
Armorall cleans up the wing and the little bird fly's faster by the 
way I am not about to take sand paper to paint I paid $200 a gal for. Just 
don't have the balls to do it. 


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KR> Thrust

[Frank Ross]

Steve,
  Those things had (have) so much thrust they didn't even need wings. Like the 
F-104 proves. Of course, the wings do make it easier to land...
  Frank

Steve Bray  wrote:
  Hello Hennie
So if you are correct Mark J and Mark L's airplanes will slow down when 
painted ?
Guess that dependa on the quaility of the job.
T-38's were slick but F-4's , 104's , 105's, SR-71's or the U-2 wasn't.

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KR> Thrust

[Frank Ross]

Steve Bray <rsb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Frank
So thrust is a good thing,, right ?
Steve


  Steve,
  Thrust, lift, whatever keeps you up...
  Frank


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KR> ELT

[Frank Ross]

Jim,
  What're you worried about? By 2009 a thousand bucks will only be worth about 
ten dollars in todays money. Just put a ten-spot away someplace and you'll be 
all set!
  Frank Ross 
  in the UK where auto fuel costs about $6 a gallon. 
  But it's okay because they sell it by the liter...


JIM VANCE <va...@hbcomm.net> wrote:
  I just learned that my new emergency locator transmitter has become obsolete 
before I got it airborne the first time. The current 121.5/243.0 Megahertz 
analog ELT's will no longer be monitored after February 2009. They are being 
replaced by a new digital system that operates on 506.0 Megahertz that will be 
much more accurate.

Of course, the new units will cost about ten times what the older ones cost. 
That will be a $1000 to $1500 investment, compared to $195 for the current ones.

The details of this change are in a great article starting on page 113 of the 
April 2006 issue of EAA Sport Aviation magazine.

It looks like I will have a 10% increase in the cost of building my KR-2.

Jim Vance
Claflin, KS
va...@hbcomm.net


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KR> Armoural

[Frank Ross]

I know there aren't many things funnier than putting a good coat of  Armor All 
on the seat of a dirt-bike right before a steep hill-climb  and watching the 
rider try to stay on the seat...


Brian Kraut  wrote:  Did you scrape an inch of bugs off 
the leading edge before you put that
Armor All on?

I do know that fiberglass gliders fly considerably better when they are
clean and waxed, but they have a whole lot more wetted area than a KR and
competition gliders likely have much more critical airfoils than the KR
does.

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KR> N886MJ FOR SALE

[Frank Ross]

I see inflation has driven down the value of all those hours of sanding...
  I was away from my computer yesterday (Went to Sutton Hoo, look it up) and 
spent the day wondering what Langford would do to celebrate April Fool's day. 
This is even better. 
  Thanks Mark, 
  Frank

Mark Jones <flyk...@wi.rr.com> wrote:
With much regret and many sleepless nights lately trying to decide if I 
want to continue in the experimental aircraft endeavor 
   Simply put, the first 50K takes the plane. Have a nice day!

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
Wales, WI USA 
E-mail me at flyk...@wi.rr.com
Visit my NEW
KR-2S CorvAIRCRAFT web site at www.flykr2s.com


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KR> 1st official flight

[Frank Ross]

Congratulations Bill,
  That's great. I look forward to seeing your plane at the Gathering.
  Frank Ross

countryhomeprint <countryhomepr...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
Krnetters,
Today N880AB had its first official flight. It only took 14 years. 
  I plan to have 880AB at the gathering in September. I will keep you posted as 
to 880AB's progress during the 40 hour fly-off.

Bill Page
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KR> KR on eBay

[Frank Ross]

Dan,
  That picture looks a lot like Tom Crawford's plane. He built a beauty and had 
it up for sale a couple of years ago when he decided to build a RV. Has anyone 
heard of where his KR is or what has happened to it?
  Frank

da...@alltel.net wrote:
  Has anyone ever seen this one before? 

Dan.

From: "Mark Jones" 
List-Post: krnet@list.krnet.org
Date: 2006/03/27 Mon PM 12:56:24 CST
To: "KR Net \(E-mail\)" 
Subject: KR> KR on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Homebuilt-KR-2-aircraft-for-sale-Priced-to-sell_W0QQitemZ4626130740QQcategoryZ63679QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


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KR> KR on eBay- thanks

[Frank Ross]

Thanks Ken,
  Frank

Kenneth Wiltrout <kwiltrout1...@verizon.net> wrote:
  Definately not Crawfords

- Original Message - 
From: "Frank Ross" 
> Dan,
> That picture looks a lot like Tom Crawford's plane. He built a beauty and 
> had it up for sale a couple of years ago when he decided to build a RV. 
> Has anyone heard of where his KR is or what has happened to it?
> Frank


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KR> Spoilers?

[Frank Ross]

Has anyone used spoilers on the KR? 
  It surprises me that with all the "improvements" folks have tried over the 
years, I've never seen any mention of spoilers on the wings. It shouldn't be 
any harder than building a belly-board, but is going to take up some space in 
the wing and add some weight. Should do the job once the plane is on (or a few 
inches from) the ground.
  But hey, if you wanted to fly slow and land short, you wouldn't have built a 
KR, right?
  Frank

da...@alltel.net wrote:
I wonder how the stall speed compares between the stock wing and the Diehl 
wing skin wings. I think I need a belly board cause I think this thing is going 
to float forever.

Dan

From: larry severson 
More lift = more drag. Land slow, fly slow.




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KR> Spoilers? pt 2

[Frank Ross]

Dan,
  I'm not suggesting you rip into YOUR wings at this point, just thinking out 
loud. 
  Getter flyin', that things too pretty to be sitting around gathering dust...
  Frank



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KR> Spoilers?

[Frank Ross]

Thanks Virg,
  I'll "look it up" as they say.
  BTW, sure will miss coming to SNF this year. Hope you all have a great time.
  Frank Ross,


VIRGIL N SALISBURY <virg...@juno.com> wrote:
  I think "DUMBO" used spoilers with the GAW airfoil. Check
newsletter 396 ?? of the newsletters. Get the CD of past newsletters,
Virg


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KR> cockpit noise

[Frank Ross]

Phil,
  There are a lot of issues with noise sources that can complicate your 
solution. Secondary vibration from the fuselage plywood and the plexiglass 
canopy and even the fiberglass turtle-deck can combine to make considerable 
noise. While you might not be able to address many of the causes, the use of 
soft, noise-cancelling foam covered with light-weight cloth might help a lot. 
Using the stiffer foams covered with thicker upholstery-type material might 
look prettier, but is less effective when it comes to deadening the sound that 
vibration causes in the cockpit. Also, you are faced with the problem of not 
adding too much weight or anything that might come loose and get tangled in the 
controls. 
  A lot of folk just think the noise is all part of the fun of flying.
  Good luck,
  Frank

phil brookman <p...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
  has anyone done anything to limit cockpit noise
my kr is realy quiet to peopole on the outside but in there i need it
quieter
at the moment i am thinking insultaion on the firewall
its only yhe lower notes that seem to get through -
my exhausts route under the plane
phil


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KR> Sun and Fun

[Frank Ross]

Brian,
  Have you tried Google maps? I looked at the map on SnFs web-site and it looks 
pretty busy, but Google doesn't look too bad. You can zoom in or move the 
cursor to move the map around to the area you want. When you zoom in, it will 
print only what is shown on the map. You might then be able to draw in what you 
want on your printed copy and scan it. 
  First, click on:
  http://maps.google.com/
  When the map comes up, cut and paste this address in the Google map search 
block:
  4175 Medulla Rd, Lakeland, FL 33811
  Zoom in to the area you want to use or move the map using your left-click 
button on the mouse.
  The SnF site has a good map at:
  http://www.sun-n-fun.org/content/interior.asp?section=yearround=Maps
  but it is pretty busy. Very thorough tho. 
  Beware of clicking on the map to make it bigger! You are about to download a 
2.86 mega-byte Adobe version. Nice map if you've got a fast computer and 
internet connection, but if you don't you'll have time to go to lunch before it 
is done!
  Hope you find something that works!
  Frank


Brian Kraut  wrote:
  I need to mark up a Sun and Fun map with my camping location for the "KR BS
and Barbecue" nights. I can't find a clear map on the SNF web site that has
any kind of detail near the vintage aircraft camping area. Can anyone point
me to a good map that I can use? As soon as I find a good map and mark the
location I will post it somewhere online and let everyone know where it is.

Brian Kraut
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KR> Clamps for gussets and gusset idea

[Frank Ross]

Just a reminder guys, Mark Jones (I think) told us some time ago about using 
pieces of PVC pipe cut into very short sections with one side slit to make a 
very nice, inexpensive clamp. Very handy and helpful tip.
  Frank

skp...@charter.net wrote:
  Chris, clamps for holding gussets really are not needed. Most will stay in 
place on their own. The ones that want to slide to the floor you can hold in 
place with a piece of coat hanger wire bent into a "C". As for attaching your 
gussets to the cross members first. As Ron stated it would work on the pieces 
that are 90 degrees to the cross members. But all the others will have to be 
curved to match the curve of the longerons. (That would be most of them). Since 
this curve is more parabolic in shape it would be hard to do. But then I did 
things while building my plane that others said would be to hard and I made 
them work. If you do this let us know how it goes.


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KR2S; 5048; corvair;
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KR> Revmaster in OZ

[Frank Ross]

Lee,
  He's in Australia, Mate,
  Frank

Lee Van Dyke  wrote:
  what size revmaster??

Lee
- Original Message - 
From: "Robin Wills" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:27 PM
Subject: KR> Retro-fitting Wing Tanks


> G'day Don.
> 
> While I haven't retro-fitted wing tanks (yet) I will be doing so in
> about 4 weeks time. This is due to me taking a wood saw to my wings
> after a minor mishap in which the retracts folded up on landing on a
> strip that looked smoother than it was. (And yes, I did lose the prop,
> although the engine was stopped, thankfully). 
> 
> Anyone want a Revmaster? Am going to a Jabiru now I have an excuse to do
> so.
> 
> My plan of attack is to install 3, 4 or 6" Aluminium or PVC tubing, as
> found on travelling irrigators and the like on farms. My measurements
> are that a 2m length, 4" in diameter, gives me 15.7 L total, or a
> smidgen under 1 hours flight time a 2m length, 6" in diameter gives me
> 35.3L or 2 hours flying time. Ergo, 2x6" and 1x4" 2m lengths gives me
> 172.6L of fuel, or around 10 hours flying time. With that kind of range,
> if you so desire, you could only go with the 2x6" tubes and about 8
> hours flight time.
> 
> I would be mounting this in 1 of 2 ways. 1. install a wear strap around
> the tubing at the ends, and cut suitable holes in the inboard and
> outboard wing templates, as well as through the foam ribs. This should
> give the tubing plenty of support. Use the manifold at either end to
> provide lateral restraint. Or 2. install 6" fore and aft of main spar
> and 4" for of rear spar, with suitable brackets. For those who know
> someone in a warehouse, that steel strapping they use on pallets and
> such would be nearly perfect, if you could find a way to ensure the
> little clip will not wear loose over time (tack weld?). 
> 
> Disadvantages of this setup are a few. No internal baffles, so fuel
> surge in uncoordinated flight will become an issue. The requirement for
> fuel boost pumps now that I no longer have a header tank. Devising a
> suitable filler neck for the round tubing, although this shouldn't be
> that hard.
> 
> Benefits of this setup, again, are a few. A dirt cheap, simple, easy to
> make fuel tank that gives the airplane the legs to outlast your bladder.
> If you install the tanks for and aft of the main spar, and you hit
> "something" then the 6" tubing will provide a measure of impact
> protection, and worst case scenario, may hold the wing shape long enough
> to get you on the ground, versus having a slab sided leading edge. (But
> how often has this been the cause of the crash? Once? Never?)
> 
> While I have not measured the weight of the tubing, yet, I believe it
> would be a small penalty over the existing header tank, and at the same
> time, give me longer legs for the KR. (Oshkosh here I come?).
> 
> Drawings and costings will be up on my webpage sometime soon. 
> 
> Cheers,
> Rob.
> 
> Robin Wills
> Second Person, Pacific National
> KR-2 VH-OMV, Ser# N111
> 
> krvia...@bigpond.com
> 
> 
> 
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KR> Scams Phishing, etc.

[Frank Ross]

About your computer and the crooks: the crooks know how to use YOUR computer to 
steal money from you, and if you do not know that, you are ripe for the 
picking. I happen to read a computer magazine ("E-zine") called "Cnet" which 
has helped me learn a lot about computer security. It's also a good place to 
find reviews about devices you may want to buy, like computers, video or DVD 
recorders, TVs,etc. It comes into your Inbox once a week or so and has links to 
very good articles about computer security as well as new advances in the 
electronics field. 
  Today their theme just happens to be "Phishing" and I highly recommend this 
article to all KRnet members. Click on link below - it's safe - or 
"cut-and-paste" it to your browser address window. 
  Too many of our members have no idea that their computer can be used to clean 
out their bank accounts, cause them months of misery and do the same for 
everyone they send e-mail to. You can also use this link to sign up for Cnet. 
Highly recommended.
  Learn to use your computer. It is a lot more than just a way to send and 
recieve mail and the crooks know it. So should you.
  http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3000_7-6459186.html?tag=nl.e497
  Frank

airgu...@comcast.net wrote:
  That scam has been going since the 70's and snail mail. Probably still works 
- why else would it still be around.
--
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KR> Scams Phishing, etc. also Apple & MAC

[Frank Ross]

Also, if you are a MAC or Apple user and think you do not need a security 
system on your computer, read the following article to learn what the hackers 
are doing to your systems: 
  http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-3513_7-6457383-1.html?tag=txt
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KR> FAA Inspection

[Frank Ross]

Jim,
  Congratulations! 
  Will there be a Jayhawk on the tail?
  Frank (formerly of Independence, Iola, Pittsburg, Chetopa) Ross

JIM VANCE  wrote:
  YEEE HAA!!

The FAA inspector has just left. My KR-2, N 303 JV, is now officially an 
airplane.

It will be at least a week before I will be able to take the wings off and 
trailer it to the airport.

Jim Vance
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Claflin, Kansas

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KR> Photos-

[Frank Ross]

Bobby,
  Go to Yahoo!, open a free yahoo account and use their free photo albums.
  You do not need to ever use the yahoo account for email, just use the photo 
albums, like I do.
  Click on my link below in my signature.
  It may take a little experimenting, but if you can build an airplane and get 
a pilot's license, you can figure it out. 
  Frank 
  See signature at bottom of this post

bo...@hatconversions.com wrote:
  Guys,
I have some photos that would probably interest at least some of you.
I tried to attach a couple to some of the e-mails to the list, but it
didn't take them. Is there an easy way for a non computer literate
person to do this? Bobby

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KR> Degaussing or De-magnetizing

[Frank Ross]

Jim, others,
  I have a "de-magnetizer" I bought at Radio Shack (RS) maybe twenty years ago. 
Looks like a barber's hair clipper, but has a metal rod sticking out the end 
where the clippers would be. It vibrates when it is on because people would not 
buy them if it did not "do" something when it was working. Anyway, it was real 
cheap and RS may still have them. Be careful, they WILL de-magnetize everything 
in about a one-foot (31cm) range.
  Frank
  PS,
  Speaking of cool gadgets, found this the other day. Will be very handy for 
when I'm spending hours in rental cars or driving to the Gathering:
  
http://www.engadget.com/2005/06/23/vr3-fm-modulator-turns-flash-drives-into-car-audio-players/
  put tunes or old radio programs (if you're under 50 you might not remember 
"Our Miss Brooks", "The Jack Benny Show," "George Burns and Gracie Allen," 
"Fibber McGee & Molly,") but they're all on CD and can be put on a flashdrive 
real easy.

JIM VANCE <va...@hbcomm.net> wrote:
  Jeff York asked about deviation on his compass when it was in the instrument 
panel.
>
>
 The TV repairmen had a degaussing tool that consisted of a coil of wire about 
8 inches in diameter that >
Jim Vance



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KR> Demagnetizer

[Frank Ross]

The demagnetizer I was talking about can be seen at:
  http://www.zzounds.com/item--TASE3
  Frank


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KR> Engines, engines, engines, engines, engines, engines, engines, engines

[Frank Ross]

I do not understand why this topic has commanded so much time and space on 
KRnet. 
  Both the Corvair and the Jabiru are good choices for the KR. 
  The Jabiru costs about $10,000 more than the Corvair in the US. 
  This seems to be a critical point because I keep seeing builders in the US 
writing that the Jabiru is too expensive and builders OUTSIDE the US asking why 
they should build a heavier Corvair.
  Maybe $10,000 US is not much money in Europe and Australia.
  Builders outside the US probably find it just as expensive to find and build 
a Corvair as to buy a Jabiru.
  Put whatever you want in it. 
  Isn't that why they call it experimental?
  Frank Ross 


Tim Haynes <t...@dodo.com.au> wrote:
  Hi Guys

I have had a good look at Marks Corvair Engine information. Other than cost 
what is the advantage of using the Corvair 2700 100 hp (realizing they can be 
developed to put out more power) over the Rotax 100 and 115hp which are a both 
much lighter engine. 62.6kg and 70kg respectively.

Regards,

Tim 
t...@dodo.com.au

Frank Ross, 
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KR> Carbon Fibre and Dynel

[Frank Ross]

Tim,
  Click on the following to go to Don Reid's links to early articles on the KR:
  http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/sportaviation/kr_SA.htm
  The article at:
  http://aerofoilengineering.com/KR/sportaviation/Kr73-1.HTM
  explains the use of Dynel and should answer your question about what is used 
"under" the dynel/fiberglass.
  Be careful talking on KRnet about Dynel. You could start a thread that could 
last for months and have people in a very excited state. 
  Don't ask how I know...
  To address your question - what I learned is that Dynel is no longer used 
because it holds more epoxy and the end product ends up being heavier than the 
same part made from fiberglass. Strength of the Dynel is not a factor in the KR 
as some early KRs were made with Dynel and came out fine. Kayak builders gave 
up on Dynel for pretty much the same reasons.
  I don't think you'll have those problems with Carbon Fiber. 
  Frank Ross


Tim Haynes <t...@dodo.com.au> wrote:
Hi Doug
>
>
A question re KR2 original 
plans. Is it correct the original plans of the KR2 show dynal sheathing as 
the nominated wing skin. Dynal offers no structual bennefits only acting as 
a skin to paint.It also weighs almost nothing. Out of interest if dynal was / 
is used it would not be premoulded. What technique was used, was there a layer 
of thin foam underneath the Dynal. ???
Regards,
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KR> Horseship - Off Topic

[Frank Ross]

Shetland, Clydesdale, Jabiru or Corvair?

Larry Flesner  wrote:  
>Tim,
> Way back when, we used to buy alot of race horses from you Aussies and
>ship them to the U.S.A. Some of the cheaper horses were shipped by
>boat at a very, very reasonable price.
> Would it be feasible to try to find your engine package here and ship
>it? Bobby
+++

So what do you think it would cost to ship 100 horses to Australia?? :-) :-)

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KR> Once Again.... Busted!

[Frank Ross]

I don't know who that whacko was pretending to be me. 
  Still, Fridays are becoming one of my favorite days on KRnet.
  That is one beautiful KR Mark and I can't wait to see the next set of photos 
of it.
  Frank (really!)

Mark Jones  wrote:  He is going to feel real bad when he 
finds out his ex girlfriends child, who
would now be 30 or so, is his and the kid is worth millions, but now that
daddy does not want anything to do with him, the kid turns his nose up and
never helps ole dad out when he is old and in the poor house. I love
Friday'sall kinds of stuff comes out..

Mark Jones (N886MJ)
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KR> water in the gas.

[Frank Ross]

At least with a "Remove Before Flight" strip attached...
  Frank

Harold Woods <haroldwo...@rogers.com> wrote:
  Hi Netters,
I was suddenly reminded that in Canada, the "snomobilers" have a problem 
with water in the gas and having it freeze and plug things up. They can 
purchase a cloth container which holds a water absorbing substance. It is in 
a cloth bag which is attached by a string. It is stuck into the gas tank and 
the end of the string is attached to the bottom of the gas tank cap. The 
cloth bag sits on the bottom and any water that passes by is absorbed.A 
colour change of the bag, which can be removed for inspection tells you when 
to change it. Sounds like it might have some merit
Regards
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KR> ml to Oz (Not Australia)

[Frank Ross]

For those of you who are "Metric Challenged"
  one ounce (abbreviated as Oz) equals 30 ml (milliliters or cubic centimeters)
  Frank 

"Kenneth B. Jones" <kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
  Yes, but some people just use a graduated cylinder, ~10 ml. (Smaller is 
better because you waste less fuel.) Put 1 ml of water in the cylinder, add 
9 ml of fuel, then shake. If the "water level" stays the same, there is no 
alcohol. If there is alcohol, the "water level" will increase.

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KR> water in the fuel? Dan Heath's Question.

[Frank Ross]

There's a predicate line? 
  :]
  Frank

Ron Freiberger <ronandmar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
  It's because that's where the thread started, and many of our
correspondents don't know a subject from a predicate.

Ron Freiberger
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KR> Using Carbon Fiber

[Frank Ross]

Dan,
  I think it was Mark Langford who pointed out loong ago that dust from sanding 
and cutting carbon
fiber can also get into your electronic stuff (like motors in sanders, etc.) 
and wreak havoc.
  Frank

Dan Heath <da...@alltel.net> wrote:
  Carbon fiber is more brittle than glass. Carbon fiber blocks radio signals.
Keep this in mind as you re-design the construction of your KR. 

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There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building
is OVER.
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KR> composite epoxies 2

[Frank Ross]

David,
  I can't answer your question, but I have lived and flown in Phoenix and I 
cannot imagine why anyone would leave a perfectly good airplane on the ramp 
there after sunrise in June, July or August. I know they do, but no one is 
going to fly much after 0700 because it is just too d*mned hot! The plane won't 
get out of ground effect!
  Put it inside and wait for flying weather (Sept - April).
  Frank

bdazzca...@aol.com wrote:
  Hi,

I have gotten alot of answers but no one really answered the question. 
What brand is the best for epoxying fiberglass to foam? Best as in whats not 
going to bubble on me when its 140 degrees on the runway in Phoenix in July?
David Swanson
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KR> Name??????

[Frank Ross]

Jim,
  Hope you didn't think we all use our REAL names and locations...
  Frank

"Litchfield, Jim W CIV PWCNORVA" <jim.litchfi...@navy.mil> wrote:
  OK !OK !OK!

Jim Litchfield
GSA Inspector
Bldg LP-20
Ph 444-4160
Fax 444-7449
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KR> Once Again....

[Frank Ross]

bob  wrote:
...
  Not to mention that psychotic
ex-girlfriend from high school 30 years ago, and her illegitimate kid
that thinks you're his dad. I don't put a lot of effort into hiding my
identity, but I sure as hell ain't going to make it easy for them either.

Bob


Crap, I thought no one else knew about her...
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KR> How many flight hours before flying KR ??

[Frank Ross]

There are low-time spam-can pilots who have flown a KR without any previous 
time in a KR and I applaud them. I had the same experience that Steve Eberhardt 
did when I flew with Marty Roberts - I made an extreme effort to hold my hand 
very still and the plane either went nose UP or nose DOWN. Steve was an avid 
regular on KRnet until then and he quickly decided to build an RV. I believe 
he's still on KRnet. At the time almost no one except Marty was offering even 
as much as a ride in a KR and I felt very lucky to get one quick ride in 
Marty's plane, so the question of "dual" in a KR was out of the question. 
  I flew a Vans RV-4 with no problems and found it a very easy plane to keep 
straight and level and also very responsive.  A low-time pilot who has only 
flown Cessnas or Pipers is extremely ill-advised to get into a KR alone and try 
to fly it. Bill Gaudlip (who built and sold Jeff York's KR) found, the 
"high-speed taxi" can turn into an inverted take-off and landing pretty quick. 
He was lucky to have gotten out with minor injuries and a plane he could 
re-build and sell.
Susan Rand told me a few years ago at Sun-N-Fun that she often flew with Ken 
when she was  very small. Years later when she took flying lessons in a Cessna 
she thought the controls were broken because nothing happened when she tried to 
move them. The instructor laughed and said that was because she wasn't pushing 
on them. She had thought it would be like the KR where you barely pressed and 
got a real change in the plane. 
  I believe Bill Reentz when he writes about flying his KR-1 by moving his head 
in the direction he wanted to go.
  Obviously Ken Rand had no chance to get some time in a KR before he flew his. 
Lots of others have done it too, and maybe you'll be one of them. 
  You will have a lot more fun on that first flight in your KR if you've spent 
a lot of time flying in a KR with someone who knows how to fly one. 
  And, by-the-way, good luck getting names of EAA tech advisors who know 
anything about KRs or especially have ever even SAT in one, much less feel 
confident to fly one. Your best chance for either is right here on KRnet.
  On those last two points, I do not think your results will vary much.
  Frank Ross

  w-z...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
If you need to find someone to get some dual in type or similar contact the 
EAA. They have a listing of flight technical advisors that should be able 
to help you out. As far as getting similar training flying a rv and doing 
no flap approaches would help. It's my opinion and the opinion of some very 

  >
  >
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KR> Parts supplyers.

[Frank Ross]

Dubi,
  Click on this link for Rand-Robinson pdf price-list:
  http://www.fly-kr.com/prices.pdf
  This link will take you to the Rand-Robinson home page where you can get more 
information that may help.
  http://www.fly-kr.com/index.html
  There are other companies that supply parts which can be used, but these are 
the ones recommended for the KR. If you live outside the US, you will need to 
have information about more than one source. 
  Hope this helps.
  Frank Ross

dubi gefen <dub...@maanit.org.il> wrote:
  Hello Kr's

I would like to buy canopy for KR-2S:
How know which company can supply these parts.

Regards
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KR> Re: KR2 / Languages & VW 1600

[Frank Ross]

Joachim,
  It might be difficult for someone in South America to locate a 1960s 
Chevrolet Corvair engine. 
  Maybe a turbo VW or at least a 2180?
  Or maybe the smaller aircraft engines, like the O-200 or C-85? 
  Eduardo,
  Please tell us how many beers you drink before you write so we'll know how 
many to drink when we read your message.
  Thanks
  Frank Ross
  in East Anglia, England, UK

Joachim Saupe <jsaupe6...@earthlink.net> wrote:
  > From: Eduardo Navarrete 
> To: KR List 
> Date: 2/5/2006 8:38:59 PM
> Subject: KR> Re: KR2 / Languages & VW 1600
>
> yes its nice to "hear" that. my english is better when
> I have 3+ beers too, and as you can read, i didnt
> drunk neither a one beer in several days.
>
> and the other hand, im thinking to make mi plane
> powered by a vw1600, what do you suggest me?? 1600 is
> fine at this altitude? 2820 mts
>
>
Eduardo,
I don't own a plane but a KR2 with a 1600cc engine is marginal in my
opinion.
At your elevation (2820 meter) roughly about 9000 feet I believe you won't
be able to climb out of ground effect.
I feel you need a Corvair engine.
Others, please chime in here!
Joachim
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KR> Food for thought.................

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Bobby,
  Sounds like a good place for a Gathering...
  Frank

bo...@hatconversions.com wrote:
  Anybody coming from the west and going to the gathering are sure welcome
to over night in Pueblo and go with usI have a smoker that will hold
about 500 pounds of meat and a cooler that holds about 10 cases, and a
hanger that will hold about 10 KRs...Maybe we can get together to go
to the get together..Bobby

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KR> Canopies

[Frank Ross]

Chris and others,
  Be creative. Look at the beautiful canopy that Dan and Jerry built. Consider 
the discarded Pulsar canopy that Larry Flesner used to build his plane. There 
are a lot of possibilities that are less expensive and more fun, plus make your 
KR a one-of-a-kind. 
  Look at everything you see with eyes that ask "Can I use that?"
  That's why it's called "experimental."
  Frank


Chris Johnston  wrote:
  Does anyonw know how much Dart charge for a dragonfly canopy? I could 
>
Don't know any other canopy sources!

Chris Johnston
Richmond Australia.

> From: "dubi gefen" 
> Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 1:24 PM
> Subject: KR> Parts supplyers.
>> Hello Kr's
>> I would like to buy canopy for KR-2S:
>> How know which company can supply these parts.
>> Regards
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KR> inch

[Frank Ross]

Kique,
  It is sad that we do not all use the same measuring system. But, is your 
airspeed indicator in kilometers? Is the altimeter in meters? No, because these 
are expensive to replace and flyers are happy using what they have already paid 
good money for.
  It is the same for everyone else. It is not easy to get 300,000,000 people to 
throw away every wrench, every measuring stick (ruler), every measuring and 
cooking cup and spoon, every cook-book, every measuring instrument (like even 
the speedometer on every car and truck) and go out and buy all new ones simply 
because someone doesn't like the system that has been in place all our lives. 
  Consider the medical field where not only the metric system, but avoidupois 
and apothecary systems are still in use. Pharmacists, doctors and nurses must 
be able to calculate and convert between the systems. 
  What a nightmare! 
  It would be nice if we all used the same system, but we don't and we won't 
for awhile.
  But look at the opportunity you have! You could not only translate the plans 
into Spanish, but also convert them to the metric system! 
  See how fortunate you are?
  Frank

Quique Alvarez  wrote:
  I *HATE* the inch, feet...

I am study the plans of the kr2-s.

When do the Americans change their metric system

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KR> Canopies - off topic

[Frank Ross]

Well then, no need for a canopy! You can go topless in Oz I've heard. 
  Careful, when the suits discover you have electicity they'll make you pay a 
tax on it!
  Cheers,
  Frank

Chris Johnston <chr...@ozdocs.net.au> wrote:
  Yes I do, but you forget, this is Australia, they only invented electricity 
here last week!
Chris Johnston.
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KR> Welcome home Rob!!!

[Frank Ross]

Welcome home Rob. 
  Looking forward to seeing you and your plane at the Gathering.
  Frank Ross

Robert Schmitt <robert.schm...@us.army.mil> wrote:
Just a progress report. Returned from Iraq in Dec and now in final
sand/finish stages. 
   All is well and it is good
to be home working on the plane again.

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KR> Another paint update.

[Frank Ross]

SLICK!
  Looks really great. Should add a few MPH to the airspeed.
  Frank

Mark Jones  wrote:
  There is a new photo of my final paint job on the fuselage at the bottom of 
my web site: www.flykr2s.com . Now all I have to do is add the graphics and the 
fuselage heads back to the airport.

Mark Jones (N886MJ) 
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KR> "The Pig"

[Frank Ross]

Ken,
  At least you had a good song to sing while you sanded...
  Frank

"Kenneth B. Jones"  wrote:
  Frank,

You guys robbed me at MVN 2004 with the "If it flys, it's not ugly" rule. 
I knew if I couldn't win that year, that I might as well give up.

BTW, you have no idea how much sanding I did. (You might when you get a 
closer look, though.)

Ken Jones, kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com
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KR> Brakes

[Frank Ross]

Sorry John, you're on your own on this one. My work here is done.
  :]
  Frank


Martindale Family  wrote:
Oh, and Frank, I have found that by landing upside down I can get around the 
southern hemisphere problem but then another thing gets me 
stumped...I can't work out why the canopy locks up instead of the 
wheels. :-)

John

Martindale Family
29 Jane Circuit
TOORMINA NSW 2452
AUSTRALIA

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KR> OT: Choosing a plane?

[Frank Ross]

Like many such things that would be "nice-to-have" for occassional use, this 
would be very time-consuming and unless someone gets a "pay-off" for doing it, 
it won't get done. 
  A great project for a volunteer or student group.
  Frank

David Lininger  wrote:
  A question came up at school today, and I thought someone from this 
group may know the answer. Is there a web site where you can select 
various parameters (single seat, 2 seats, 4 seats, fixed or retract, 
conventional or trigear, etc) and at the end there is a list of aircraft 
that meet your specs? If not, there ought to be. I had heard that EAA 
was working on such a deal, but never heard any more about it. Maybe it 
is harder than it seems?

73,
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KR> more flying (boring and my wife is tired of listening)

[Frank Ross]

Joe,
  Reading about flying is NEVER boring. Keep 'em coming!
  Thanks for taking us along for the ride, it was fantastic!
  Frank Ross sitting at a computer on a very over-cast day in East Anglia.


"Joseph H. Horton" <joe.kr2s.buil...@juno.com> wrote:
  Guys,
Another fine day for flying. Temp was about 60 deg. today and I could
have flown just wearing tee shirt. I spent the afternoon getting my
medical out of the way for another 2 years and headed to the airport. The
wing tanks were empty but the header tank was all but full. I only had a
little over an hour of daylight left so i perflighted and started her up
and with the warmer air it did not take long to get up to temps. The oil
pressure seemed normal but I would keep an eye on it. I departed to the
west climbing at about 1300/min
and leveled out at 2000 ft. At full throttle she gained speed quickly and
I was soon doing just about 170 indicated. I was headed to a larger
airport just south of Allentown and by the time I got trimmed up and the
radio changed I was only 5 miles out and called for the active and
entered the pattern. I am very familiar with this airport and the pattern
went as expected. The runway is about 30 ft wider and about 1000 ft
longer than at home. It looked huge compared to what I have been landing
on. Touch down was good and I basically was practicing to keep the nose
wheel up for a longer time in the roll out to try and shorten up the roll
out.
This runway is so smooth. At home there is a bump that I have been using
to jump off the ground on take off and if I am on the runway before I get
to it on landing it pops the plane back into the air. Which has not been
a problem by just doing nothing but hold the controls steady and let it
settle back down. I did 4 patterns here before heading home by way of
circling my house for the kids and my uncles hose for my dad visiting
from Florida. 
All this time I have kept track of the oil pressure and it stayed
pretty normal the whole time not going over 52 #. Now I don't know what
to think except that WW told me to check out the electric sender unit,
and right now that seems like a very real chance that it may be acting
up.
One more landing to do back at home on the narrow, short and
rough runway. I ended up a little high and tried the slip again. I lost
altitude quickly and did not gain any speed. I love this plane. I was a
little fast a touch down but had no trouble stopping. I have changed my
flap procedure to dropping the flaps on finial
and judging when to put the last notch in by my position on finial. The
other thing to note is I have to take out all the power pretty early in 
finial.
Sorry to bore all of you but finish your planes and I promise to
read your flight reports too.
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KR> Gathering hotel - Shuttle Service

[Frank Ross]

Dan Heath <da...@alltel.net> wrote:
  You can always get a ride to and from the airport, to any of the hotels you
are staying at, all you have to do is ask. I will be renting a car while I
am there, so just ask me. 
See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on the pics 
See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
There is a time for building and a time for FLYING and the time for building
is OVER.
Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC

  Me too Dan.
  I have rented a car nearly every time I've gone and I'm always glad to carry 
folks around, even if they're not at my hotel. I know a lot of people do this.
  Pays off, too. Rick Lanning gave me a ride in N4DD because I gave him a lift 
to the hotel, and maybe because he's just a helluva nice guy, too. Anyway, DO 
NOT be quiet if you need a ride. I hate to see those extra seats in the rental 
car go to waste! And it's a great way to get to meet people you have only read 
emails from.
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KR> New build : what do I buy first ??

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  curry <cur...@msn.com> wrote:
  Ok my KR-1 plans will be in this weekso besides building the table,
Spruce and ply from wicks, and a quart of T-88What should I be looking 
at buying to get going ??
I'm excited to join the KR movement !!

curry


  A set of KR-2 plans. 
  The first plans I got were the KR-1 and you will NOT believe them! 
  You get what you pay for. 
  The KR-2 plans are the REAL plans.
  Sorry, but that's the way it is.
  If you've built a few planes, no problem. Don't be discouraged, the 
difference between the plans for the KR-1 and the KR-2 is the difference 
between night and day. If you get a set of KR-2 plans, the KR-1 plans begin to 
make a LOT more sense. Don't let the KR-1 plans put you off the plane, you can 
build a plane from them, it will just take a LOT more study and concentration. 
Or experience. Unfortunately, a lot of the KR-1 plans are sold to people who 
are starting out and want a simple, easy to build and cheap plane with a cheap 
set of plans. Well, that's what you get - a cheap set of plans.
  My 2 cents worth. 
  Or "tupence" for now.
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KR> Cheap Clamps

[Frank Ross]

Great idea Stephen,
  As the father of three girls, I cant believe I've been looking at these 
stupid things forever and never realized how useful they could be. Now the 
girls are grown and moved out, I'll have to go buy my own. 
  Thanks for the idea
  BTW, I'd seen Mark Jones' PVC pipe idea before but forgotten about it. 
  What a great day for ideas on krnet!
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KR> New build : what do I buy first ??

[Frank Ross]

  Bobby,
  I don't think so, but I'm not sure. My plans are in storage or I'd check for 
you. I know someone will have your answer soon tho. Probably Virg will know...
  Frank


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Guys, I spoke with a gentleman yesterday who is building a KR1. Are the
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KR> kr-2

[Frank Ross]

Congratulations Tony!
  Frank

michaela  wrote:
  Just spoke with Larry Constable, the seller. My check is in the mail. I am 
now the proud owner of a KR2 project!
Wow, Dreams do come true... guess mine will be a 2-seater afterall :)... will 
be picking it up in a couple weeks.
How exciting is this!
Tony

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KR> "The Pig"

[Frank Ross]

Ken (pigs not only fly they can be beautiful as well) Jones,
  I see from the photos on Langford's Gathering site that you have given up on 
ever getting the "Ugliest KR" award.
  That plane is looking really nice. Congratulations. 
  Must have taken a LOT of sanding...
  Frank Ross


"Kenneth B. Jones" <kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com> wrote:
  Larry,

As long as I live near Porkopolis, she'll be the Porkopolis Flying Pig. 
Appropriately named for the Cincinnati Marathon, she looks tired but keeps 
running.

Ken Jones, kenbjo...@cinci.rr.com
Sharonville, OH
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KR> prop strike!

[Frank Ross]

Mark,
  Glad you're okay. 
  Will you be re-covering the pilot's seat now as well?
  Frank

Mark Langford  wrote:
  NetHeads,

First, you've gotta see the photo at 
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/flights/06012837m.jpg . Then I'll tell you 
how it got that way.
>
>
Mark Langford, Harvest, AL
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KR> "The Pig"

[Frank Ross]

Your welcome Ron.
  Yeah, the PIG is just another pretty face now.
  Frank

Ron Freiberger <ronandmar...@earthlink.net> wrote:
  Frank Ross sent pictures of the PIG, and I was very disappointed. I
expected to see a work of "Ugly Art", after all this publicity. 

Disappointed to see a good looking KR. 

Thanks, Frank.

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KR> a single passenger KR2S?

[Frank Ross]

Probably everyone who's been to a Gathering where
Steve Bennet's KR 1 1/2 was will answer this for you.
Steve's narrowed plane is a KR-2, NOT a 2-S, but that
shouldn't make much difference.
But why? 
It's not like you've got a lot of extra room anyway.
With the full-width plane you have the extra room to
throw your bag, keep charts, and a lot of other stuff
you won't have room for if you squeeze it down to a
single. 
You could also add an upper wing and have a helluva
nice Pitts replica, too.
Or use three KR-1 fuselages for a P-38 replica. 
It's a very flexible design, but then I've never built
one, so I'd ask someone who knows what he's talking
about.
Frank Ross, 
struggling to get out of this #@%#&* straight-jacket! 

--- michaela <micha...@tonypickering.com> wrote:

> Has anyone ever built or contemplated building a
> single seat KR2S. Ie, narrowing the fuselage a bit,
>
> I do in my '46 Aeronca 11AC...  ;-)... Your
> thoughts/ideas/opinions?
> 
> Tony


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KR> buying KR plans

[Frank Ross]

Bob,
I have to think that you and Mark Langford are right
about the price, but cannot understand why she would
not take the money and retire. She'd still have her KR
friends all over the world and the time she needs to
enjoy her family and life.
I do think she cares enough about the plane to want to
keep it in business, even if she's not running the
company.
Hope you're having some great flying weather in Harker
Heights. We had a beautiful day here in East Anglia
and tomorrow just promises to be even better. 
Frank

--- "Robert L. Stone" <rsto...@hot.rr.com> wrote:

> Frank,
>  I heard that Mark Langford by himself or with
> some other people tried 
> to purchase the business from Mrs Rand and the price
> was so high that it was 
> obvious, she does not want to sell.
> 
> Bob Stone

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KR> buying KR plans

[Frank Ross]

--- Robert E Kirby Sr <tiger7...@juno.com> wrote:

> Thank you for the information, The best so far at
> least you didn't call
> me a theft, as was imply,  for two week I've call
> and Fax RR with no
> result , I bought this KR2 from estate sale the
> plans are missing, it was
> pay for once, I'm  just need to complete it. 
> Bob

Bob,
There's lots of unused plan-sets for the KRs out there
and you should be able to find a set for a reasonable
price, tho maybe not as soon as you would like. You
should also be able to get a new set within a
reasonable time from Rand-Robinson.
I have had three sets of KR plans, none of which I
bought from R-R, all of which were in excellent
condition when I bought them and NONE of which were
ever used to complete a plane. I am against buying
plan-sets which have already been used once to build a
plane, but that's not what you are interested in. 
The first set I bought from a guy in my EAA chapter
who never even started his KR. About a month later I
bought a partially started KR in excellent condition
which had a very nice, like-new set of plans with it.
The next Spring I bought a crap-load of stuff that a
friend had left over from building his KR and it
included a nice plan-set he had inherited from someone
else who had given up on building his KR. One of these
went to Danny McCormick, the guy who bought all my KR
parts when I came to England. The other two sets are
in storage and I cannot get to them, or I'd offer one
to you. Sorry.
I've discussed this with Jeanette Rand and she has
said simply to send her a note with the serial numbers
of the plans and she'll transfer the serial numbers to
my name. I know she's not always easy to contact, but
she's basically a one-woman shop. I don't want to
discuss whether she should turn the business over to
someone else, because that's none of my business. 
The price of the plans is very reasonable and I'd
consider buying a set from Jeanette. She may even be
able to tell you who originally built the plane you
have and give you some details about it. 
Just don't expect to get her on the first call.
There's probably more like me who have extra sets of
KR plans and I don't think there's anything wrong with
buying a set from them. I'm sure Jeanette would like
you to buy them from her, but she's not going to
black-list you if you don't, like Nat Puffer would,
for instance. I asked him about buying a set of Cozy
plans from one of his customers who was not going to
build a plane from them. He was not happy with the
question and told me I'd have to get the guy who sold
the plans to me to give me any support I might need
building the plane. Puffer was definitely NOT willing
to accept a small fee to transfer the plans to ME,
which Jeanette will do FREE. She may not be much of a
business woman, but I think she's one of the finest
people I've met and you will enjoy knowing her, once
you meet her.
Good luck with your "new" KR and don't get
discouraged. Things will fall into place before long
and, meanwhile, you've got a great little plane to
play with. 
Lucky Guy!
All the best,
Frank Ross



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KR> buying KR plans

[Frank Ross]

When Jeanette gets tired of running this business, it
will probably be bought for a small fee by one of the
competitors who will promptly bury it as deep as they
can.
Consider the Q-2 and Dragonfly.
Frank

--- Ron Hoskins  wrote:

> To get your set of plans, send the money to RR per
> web site instructions and you will receive them
> sooner or later. I agree that we owe Ken for this
> great design but also relize that it is the KR's
> that keep this company going and not by the way
> Jenette is runing it. It may be a small business,
> but it should be treated as one. I was able to get
> Jenette on the phone before ordering and she asured
> me that the plans would be shipped as soon as she
> got me personal check. The check cleared my bank 6
> days later and the plans arrived 4weeks later. I am
> starting to build this great little plane, but with
> the service I had with the plans, I will not be
> buying anything furture from Jenette. I also talked
> with another person that had been waiting for a
> month for his plans and said he was waiting for them
> to arrive so he could quit doing buisness with her. 
>  Hope this doesent tick-off to many people, but this
> is no way to run a buisiness. She is lucky that Ken
> designed such a great little airplane.   Thanks
> Ken...


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KR> INFORMATION ABOUT KRs

[Frank Ross]

While you are waiting for your manual...
I know I sent this out just the last week or so, but
maybe I wasn't clear about how important it is. I'll
try to make it clearer.
Anyone wanting information about KRs or building a KR
ABSOLUTELY MUST SPEND SOME TIME IN THE FOLLOWING
WEBSITES!
I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO MAKE IT
CLEARER
Not only is there nearly everything you ever wanted to
know about KRs in these sites (which the owners have
spent almost as much time building as they did on
their KRs, by-the-way) there are links to LOTS of
other folk JUST LIKE YOU who are building, have built
or are flying KRs. 
This is a resource you cannot afford to waste!
AND REMEMBER, they can remove these websites any time
they want and it is ALL GONE! 
Take a look now.
Frank Ross
Websites - put them in your "Favorites" file:
Mark Langford:
http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford/index.html
Mark Jones:
http://www.flykr2s.com/index.html
Dan and Jerry’s site:
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KR> Re: KR Plans - copyright

[Frank Ross]

--- VIRGIL N SALISBURY <virg...@juno.com> wrote:

> Copyrights last a looonngg time, Virg

Virg got his set of KR plans before there was a
copyright office...
Frank

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KR> Jailbird

[Frank Ross]

--- william walsh <ru4fly...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> I was the pilot of the the kr that went down 395jt.
> Not sure what happen to the fuel
SNIP
> Will keep all posted and will find a
> way to put a link to my yahoo pics. For now.
>   William Walsh

William,
We are all glad you are okay and that you provided
such an exciting story for us. 
Concentrate on the positive, you DID continue to fly
the plane when a lot of guys would have done otherwise
and you DID get it on the ground in a condition that
let you walk away. Another good landing! Now, if you
can use that plane again, its a GREAT landing! 
All the best,
Frank Ross

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KR> "Mil" as in MILIMETERS

[Frank Ross]

Outside the US the English-speaking world uses the
term "mil" for milimeters, as in nine milimeter,
whereas we in the US, and maybe Canada, think it means
a measurement in inches. 
Who says we speak the same language?
Gotta remember guys and gals, people ALL OVER THE
WORLD read this and send posts to it.
Frank Ross
in East Anglia (a place in England where there are a
LOT of WWII airbases) 

--- Steve Bray <rsb...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I would like to watch you weld  that.
> Sorry Chris, couldn't pass that up. You've got to be
> real careful, these 
> guys are airplane builders and they don't miss much
> and let even less slide.
> 
> Steve Bray
> Jackson, Tennessee
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "Ron Freiberger" <ronandmar...@earthlink.net>
> >Reply-To: KRnet <kr...@mylist.net>
> >To: "'KRnet'" <kr...@mylist.net>
> >Subject: RE: KR> Spars
> >Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 10:40:24 -0500
> >
> >Chris said;
> > Tending to think that a welded 2-3 mil
> alumimium tank might be the
> >most crash resistant/puncture proof thing
> available, around about 70
> >litres/ 15 gallon capacity, any comments?
> >
> >  Yes; Aluminum foil is 2-3 mils.  I don't think
> that would pass
> >inspection.
> >
> >Ron Freiberger
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KR> crankshaft

[Frank Ross]

Joe,
Glad you're okay. You'll be busy, but keep us posted.
Frank

--- Joe  wrote:

>   Last saturday I was enroute from Platteville, 
> Wisconsin to Independence, Iowa.  Just north of
> Manchester, Iowa I heard a bang and the plane
> started to shake.  I was about 3 miles from the
> Manchester airport.  I landed at Manchester.  Hauled
> the plane home.  After dismantling the engine I
> found the crankshaft was broke.
>Joe Weber


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KR> "Mil" as in MILIMETERS off topic

[Frank Ross]

Thanks Serge, I'll try to be more careful about my
spelling. :=]
For sixty-five years I thought I was speaking English;
then I came to England...
All too true, Serge, it's just that as an American
living in England the last two years, I realized the
English and Australians (and probably New Zealanders
as well) use the word "mil" when they are talking
about millimeters and most Americans wouldn't know
this.
I think the metric system is a wonderful thing, but I
have a house full of tools, measuring devices,
cookbooks, etc., that I'd have to throw out to switch
over. Is it worth it? All the traffic signs in the US
(and maybe someplace else in the world, but I think we
are the only ones left using this wonderful, but
archaic system) would have to be discarded and
replaced, billions of dollars. Is is worth it? And, we
now have the confusion of people converting not only
from Knots to MPH but kilometers as well, for what
purpose? Then there's the altitude in meters when so
much of our existing equipment is still in feet. Will
it stop? Not until everything new is metric and
everyone is ready to throw away everything they are
using.
I know it'll change someday, but I still say "If it
ain't broke, why fix it?" 
Cheers,
Frank

--- Serge VIDAL  wrote:

> All the more so that "millimeter" can be abbreviated
> only one way, and 
> that's "mm". Moreover, "millimeter" is spelled with
> two "l".
> 
> You see, the Metric system was designed in the 18th
> century by the same 
> chaps that inspired the American constitution: the
> Encyclopaedists.These 
> guys had a good sense of organization, and they made
> the entire system 
> confusion-proof and absolutely consistent. Think of
> that: they wanted the 
> absolute reference from which all other measures are
> derived (the meter) 
> to come from something also absolute. They thought
> Planet Earth would be 
> good enough as a reference. So, they started by
> measuring... the Earth's 
> circumference (meridien) (an ambitious feat at that
> time!), and they 
> divided it to get a practical, "yard-size" measure.
> So, at that time, the 
> meter was "the ten-millionth part of the quarter of
> the Earth's meridian". 
> 
> The amazing thing is their measurement of the Earth
> came right by a 
> handful of miles.
> 
> These guys were so obsessed with invention and
> precision, they would have 
> deserved to become KR builders!
> 
> Serge Vidal
> KR2 "Kilimanjaro Cloud"
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KR> KR-Builder.org

[Frank Ross]

Thanks Dan,
Sorry about your engine, but thanks for the up-date. 
Here's wishing your KR a speedy recovery.
Frank

--- Dan Heath <da...@alltel.net> wrote:

> The one with the "-" in the name, not the one shown
> below, is going away


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KR> KR Wannabe/weight

[Frank Ross]

--- Larry Flesner <fles...@verizon.net> wrote:

> At 02:26 PM 1/9/2006, you wrote:
> >Are you sure you have that empty weight correct.  I
> have never heard 
> >of a KR2 weighing as much as 780 pounds empty.
>
+++

> the gentleman from
> Dallas , Texas (can't recall his name right now)
> with the single place
> KR with the Sube engine and trike gear was 8??
> pounds.

> Larry Flesner


Larry,
You were probably thinking of Les Palmer's plane (in
Dallas, TX) and it is not only heavy, it doesn't fly
much. He's proud of the fact that it has larger wheels
and tires, but they DO add weight. As do a lot of the
other things he likes to add to his plane.
Frank

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KR> Gathering web page "Heads-up" thanks

[Frank Ross]

> Have you been to  http://www.krgathering.org/  
> lately and checked
> out the work of Bob Lee 

> Thanks Bob !!
> Check it out now 
> 
> I'd ask "how many days till the Gathering?" but I
> guess we can wait
> until after the first of the year to start the
> countdown.
> 
> Larry Flesner

Larry,
Thanks for the "heads-up"!
Bob has done a beautiful job indeed. Thanks Bob!
Frank



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KR> another day, another flight...

[Frank Ross]

--- Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net> wrote:
> KRNetHeads, 
> This morning was planned as the kids' first flights
> ...10 year old Claire got the first
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama

Mark,
Great story and great photo! 
If my granddaughter ever sees that picture, I'm
dead...
Frank



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KR> Joe Horton 1st Flight Photo

[Frank Ross]

--- Mark Jones <flyk...@wi.rr.com> wrote:

> The following link is to a photo of Joe Horton after
> his first flight.
> Beautiful plane Joe. Congratulations..
> 
> http://flykr2s.com/joehorton.html
> 
> Mark Jones (N886MJ)

Thanks Mark, wonderful photo of a beautiful plane.
Frank


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KR> Congratulations Dan & Jerry

[Frank Ross]

--- Dan Heath <da...@alltel.net> wrote:

>
http://krbuilder.org/AirworthinessInspectionComplete/index.html
> 
> As Jerry already posted, the inspection is over and
> the WannaBee has passed.

Congratulations Dan and Jerry!
Beautiful plane, great job.
Frank


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KR> One way or another...

[Frank Ross]

--- stee...@aol.com wrote:

> ML said "I can't read the signs  from 10,500 feet"
> 
> ML, do you always fly in a westerly direction?  
> heh,heh,heh! Franc 
> S, Houston

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KR> cutting sponge foam

[Frank Ross]

--- Oscar Zuniga <taildr...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> When cutting sponge foam such as is used for
> upholstery and cushions, use an 
> electric knife.  The one I use is one that came with

> Be sure to rinse off the knife blades before you put
> the knife away, or your 

> Oscar Zuniga
> San Antonio, TX

Good reminder Oscar. Watching a TV show the other day
I realized that auto upholsterers have a variety of
smaller electric knives they use on all types of foam.
I first used our kitchen electric knife (which wasn't
getting much use anyway) to re-shape my motorcycle
seat in San Antonio in 1977. Must be something about
San Antonio. 
Guess that was a long time ago, but it only seems like
yesterday...
Frank


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KR> Geared vs direct drive Turbo & my 2 cents

[Frank Ross]

--- jeffyor...@qx.net wrote:
> I love this subject and have contemplated turbo
> charging my 2180 

> Jeff York KR-2 Flying N839BG

Jeff,
That's why they call it "experimental".
I think the huge success of the KR is that it is
simple. Add enough complexity and you end up with a
different plane (Lancair) or you never get it built.
There's lots of room for improvement, so most KR
builders get to enjoy a life-time of tweaking long
after their KR is flying.
What more could you ask for?
Frank

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KR> B*d Language

[Frank Ross]

--- billsta...@peoplepc.com wrote:
> What was the bad language? Cesna? Beach? or one of
> them other 

KR> Civil unrest in France

[Frank Ross]

Isaac,
Welcome to KRnet. 
We may have crossed paths in '89, as I was taking care
of wounded in a hanger at Kelly AFB in San Antonio,
TX. Glad to hear you learned to land planes and don't
have to keep getting out before they land. 
Jumping would have been better than some of my
landings...
We were worried about Serge, since he has one of the
older KRs that he brought from Africa when he moved to
Paris a few years ago. Actually, we probably worried
as much about his plane as him, but I can certainly
understand his frustration with the rioting. 
Hope you get to the Gathering, as it is a lot of fun
and you'll make friends for a lifetime. 
Frank

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KR> LANDING GEAR WIDTH

[Frank Ross]

--- Ron Freiberger <ronandmar...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> That's easy for you to say, but we don't have
> snowmobile trailers in
> SouthWET Florida.
> 
> Ron Freiberger
> mail to ronandmar...@earthlink.net 

Ron,
Now that all the boats have blown away, you should be
able to find a few unused boat trailers...
Frank

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KR> Prop Clearance - Larger wheels/tires/tyres

[Frank Ross]

Phil,
I know, it increases weight, but it does help a little
and gives you some rough-ground options...
Frank

--- Phil Matheson <mathes...@dodo.com.au> wrote:
> I'm fitting a 60 inch Dia X 65 Inch Pitch Sweat
>SNIP
> Any ideas would be welcome.

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KR> Fuel tanks-transfer methods

[Frank Ross]

--- Colin Rainey <brokerpilot9...@earthlink.net>
wrote:
 I will transfer fuel to the header for use,
> keeping the fuel system simple and mods minimal.

> Colin Rainey

Colin,
Howard Kaiser's KR-2 in the Phoenix area (80s - 90s)
had a simple rubber-bulb, squeeze-type fuel pump from
a boat under the pilot's legs to transfer fuel from
the wing tanks to the header tank. 
Worked very well, but too busy for me. 
Of course this could be adapted to take advantage of
the "pucker-factor" but you have to make sure you
don't over-fill the header tank in that case...
Header tank fuel "gauge" was the old tube from the top
of the header tank, out through the panel, down
vertically to the bottom of the panel and back into
the header tank. Also worked well, requiring no
electricity. 
Simple and VERY reliable. 
FWIW
Frank


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KR> GPS

[Frank Ross]

--- Larry Flesner <fles...@verizon.net> wrote:
> I got my new Lowrance 500 Airmap yesterday.  Now I
> have to figure out how to use it. 

> Way more than I'll ever need or will learn how to
use.
> 
> Larry Flesner

Speaking of GPS, I saw a GPS unit that plugs into your
computer for about $80 (US) the other day. Looks good
for those who are using lap-tops in-flight. 
Someone's bound to adapt this to a really inexpensive
"home-built" glass-cockpit system before long
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KR> Header Tank - PVC drainage pipe

[Frank Ross]

--- Bob Glidden <glid...@ccrtc.com> wrote:
> Does anybody on the net have a drawing of a small 8
> - 10 gallon header tank or know of a source to buy
> one? I would ... be open to any idea.
> Bob Glidden


Bob,
I really like the PVC drainage-pipe tanks on Bill
Clapp's wings. This stuff can be made nearly any
size/shape to fit your application and is CHEAP and
easy to get - which means easily replaceable and you
can experiment with it. 
Just like my old girl-friend in high-school used to
say about me - cheap, easy to get, replaceable...
Drop by Home Depot or Lowes on your way home from the
lodge...
For what it's worth...
Frank

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KR> Back to KR basics

[Frank Ross]

Congratulations Serge!
Drive carefully :}
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KR> Dual controls / brakes / gear fittings

[Frank Ross]

Dual vs single controls - consider this: 
Les Palmer in Dallas, TX built his with the
single/center stick, but flew it straddling the stick
using left-side left pedal, right-side right pedal. 
I'm not recommending that system, just letting you
know what happened to one of the nicest KRs I've seen
by a man who found his KR had grown smaller over the
time it took him to build it, or something like
that...
Frank


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KR> Weight testing

[Frank Ross]

Sand or salt can get loose and cause problems just as
a cement block or weights can. You do not want even 25
pounds of loose sand sliding to the rear of the plane
when you put the nose up. 
You could make "rope dummies" like we used in
air-rescue training. That way you can make different
size dummies and strap them in real good. 
We used heavy rope, wound in figure-of-eight with
additional rope wrapped around to make legs, arms,
torso and even the head. I'm talking THICK rope. When
we had the dummy completed we put an old flight suit
on it, but you could probably use an old pair of
overalls, and could lift it, carry it, put it in the
basket or on the hoist and pull it into the
helicopter. Works good. You'd be surprised how heavy
these things can be in the same size as a human. 
Maybe not as heavy as Jerry or me...
Good luck,
Frank

--- Dan Heath <da...@alltel.net> wrote:

> You are absolutely right. It is dangerous. I look
> back at when I tested the
> Little Beast, and I am ashamed to tell you that I
> used concrete blocks.
> Every time I look back on that, it scares me. To
> think that I could have
> used such bad judgement. What if I had suffered a
> rough landing and those
> things had started having a mind of their own? What
> a horrible thought. I am
> going to put sand in a pair of pants and secure it
> with the seat belt. Then
> I am going to add a shirt sewn and filled with sand
> and have it secured with
> the seat and shoulder harness. I am going to tie the
> legs and arms together
> so they won't flop around so much. The only thing is
> that I need to get as
> much weight as Jerry and that is going to be hard to
> do. 
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
> the pics 
> 
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
> 
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING
> and the time for building
> is over.
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Lexington, SC
> 
> ---Original Message---
> 
> Every time I see someone on the list talk about
> 
> sandbags in the cockpit I always worry about the
> darn
> 
> things shifting around and as we all know it doesn't
> 
> take much shifting around, not to mention a loose 50
> 
> pound bag of sand, in a KR to make things
> interesting
> 
> for the pilot.
> 
> 
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KR> BRS

[Frank Ross]

Here at the home of the 48th Fighter Wing, the
"Liberty Wing", the base Librarian tells me the
fighter pilots are not called Libertarians, but she's
not sure why not.
BTW, their planes don't have BRS, but they do, sort
of.
Frank

--- VIRGIL N SALISBURY <virg...@juno.com> wrote:

> LIBERTARIAN?? , Virg
> Pot and Kettle situation!


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KR> For Steve

[Frank Ross]

John Gillespie Magee, Jr was a 19y/o Spitfire pilot in
the RCAF when he died after a collision with another
plane over England, Dec 11, 1941. See:
http://www.wpafb.af.mil/museum/history/prewwii/jgm.htm
His poem is a very fine tribute to Steve. 
Frank

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KR> Kr1

[Frank Ross]

To expand a little on Virg's Mantra...
The first set of plans I ever got were a set of KR-1
plans. 
Don't bother. Buy a set of KR-2plans.
The KR-1 plans may have gotten better, but I doubt it.
Sure, they are cheap, but here's a case where you
really DO get what you pay for. Or DONT get what you
pay for.
If you are an experienced builder, the KR-1 plans will
probably be okay, but they just really are not worth
even the little bit you pay for them when you can get
so much more with the extra money you pay for the KR-2
plans.
Sorry to go on like this, but since Virg uses so
little band-width, I figure it's okay to take some of
his.
Thanks, Virg
BTW, been to South Beach lately?
Frank 

--- VIRGIL N SALISBURY <virg...@juno.com> wrote:

> BUY a set of plans, Virg


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KR> Kr1

[Frank Ross]

Sorry Ryan, I responded to Virg's reply before I saw
your original question. In your case, I would follow
the other guys' suggestions, but I'd also send off $65
for a set of KR-1 plans, as you may want to know how
the thing was built.
IF it was built to plans...
Frank
Younger than Virg, but better looking...
Also went to a better High School...

--- Ryan  wrote:

> What is the firewall f.s. location in inches?
> I just bought a Kr1 and need this to do a W
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KR> Didn't make it on Tuesday

[Frank Ross]

Congratulations Dan, that is a beautiful airplane.
Hope to get to see it next year. 
Frank

> Subject: KR> Didn't make it on Tuesday

> Here is how she looks, all ready for her new home.
> Click on the second
> pic...
> 
> See N64KR at http://KRBuilder.org - Then click on
> the pics
> 
> See you in Mt. Vernon - 2006 - KR Gathering
> 
> There is a time for building and a time for FLYING
> and the time for building
> has expired.
> 
> Daniel R. Heath - Columbia, SC


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KR> laptop based GPS display?

[Frank Ross]

--- Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net> wrote:

> KRNetHeads,

>  Any other suggestions as to other hardware or
> software suggestions are also welcome, 
>SNIP
> A laptop based system seems much more flexible.  
> Any ideas?  
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama
> see KR2S project N56ML at
> http://home.hiwaay.net/~langford
> email to N56ML "at" hiwaay.net

Mark,
Sorry, no help on software, but maybe on hardware.
Recently I bought a VERY small JVC notebook for just
under $1100, see:
http://notebook.jvc.com/overview/index.html
Originally they were retailing for over $2000, so it
was a real deal. You may be able to find one for as
good a price because they are TOO SMALL and aren't
selling very well. I have no problem with the size and
wanted one small and light for travelling. It is about
the size of a good DVD player. Now for the other
complaint reviewers had, RAM memory. It ships with
256MB, but is easily up-graded to 768MB, which I did.
Runs great! Especially if you don't have a lot of crap
on it.
See:
http://www.memoryx.net/jvcammpme.html
Anyway, thought you might be able to use this info.
Good hunting and keep us posted.
BTW the weather in East Anglia right now is absolutely
stunning.
Frank


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KR> Spitfire

[Frank Ross]

When was the last time you saw a Spitfire fly over
your neighborhood? I just did.
Went for a walk and heard a plane approaching.
Civilian planes fly over our bases here all the time,
so I wasn't surprised, but did look because there was
just something about the sound. It was unmistakenly a
Spitfire! Flying West to East. Beautiful! 
There are a fair number of Spits restored and flying
in Britain but it is a real treat to see one fly over
just out for a spin and enjoying a great plane on a
great day. 
Thought you would like to know.
Frank
PS, KR, KR, KR. Okay, that's the KR part.

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KR> Great morning flight

[Frank Ross]

Lee,
Thanks for a great story. Most of my flying has been
in the PHX area, and your story brings back some great
memories. I saw my first KR at an airshow (not
Copperstate, though) at Williams when I met Howard
Kaiser, who also got me interested in EAA. Then my
wife pointed out that I didn't know how to fly and
followed up with a gift of flying lessons at Glendale.
Hope you have a great flying season.
Thanks again,
Frank

--- Lee Van Dyke <l...@vandyke5.com> wrote:

> Group
> 
> The weather here in Arizona is finally starting to
> cool off. This morning was about 82 degrees at 7AM.

> if I was going to get any lower. 1500 AGL. I made 2
> passes at 150 and 100 feet one @ 150 mph and one @
> 160 mph as I haven't retracted the gear yet. All I
> heard was WWOOWWW. ALL HE HEARD WAS
> YYEEEH. 

> Lee Van Dyke
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KR> Corvair Question

[Frank Ross]

It's probably okay, Serge. Corvair did have a Corsa
model, if memory serves me right. Being in England for
a few years, I see so many cars you'll never see in
the US sharing names of cars that are sold in the US. 
Can be confusing.
Frank

--- Serge VIDAL <serge.vi...@sagem.com> wrote:

> Hi.
> 
> If your are talking about an Opel Corsa, it is
> definitely the wrong 
> engine!
> 
> What you are looking at is a Chevrolet Corvair.
> 
> Serge Vidal
> KR2 Kilimanjaro Cloud
> Paris, France


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KR> Basic Corvair Question

[Frank Ross]

Bart,
In case you don't have it, go to:
http://www.corvaircraft.com/
and look at the links on how to know if you've got the
right engine/heads.
Frank

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KR> KR Gathering Photos

[Frank Ross]

Glenda,
Thank you for the great photos. Since I wasn't able to
make this Gathering, your photos really made my day.
>From one RN/pilot/KR junkie to another, a HUGE thank
you!
Frank

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KR> Free e-mail accounts

[Frank Ross]

I've been off-net for several months but followed the
digest on e-scribe until about a month ago when it
would no longer come up. All I'd get was the "That
page unavailable" page from MS.
Anyway, glad to be back on KRnet and up-dating on the
Gathering. 

--- Mark Langford <n5...@hiwaay.net> wrote:

> Anybody that knows of a
> free email account that actually works is welcome to
> post information on
> it...
> 
> Mark Langford, Huntsville, Alabama

Because I travel a lot and move house about every four
years, I've used "Yahoo!" free e-mail for nearly ten
years with no problems. They are not my ISP because 
a. I want to be able to access the account from any
library or friend's computer.
b. yahoo wasn't available here when I got here anyway.
c. If I get p*ssed at my ISP I can change REAL easy
without having to e-mail everyone and change my e-mail
address.
d. Their new (free again) photo mail makes it real
easy to send embedded pictures.
e. I can have more than one free account, so I can use
one for aviation, one for personal, one for internet
shopping, etc.
I've got several friends and relatives who have free
yahoo accounts and NO computer. A free yahoo account
is how they get to send free e-mails from their local
library. When my computer quits on me, or my
electricity goes out, I go to a public library and use
their computer. 
Support your local library!
One of the best features is Yahoo's "Bulk" folder.
Anything that trips their Spam trigger goes into a
Bulk folder. Looking through the crap in my Bulk
folder it is easy to see why. Only on VERY rare
occassions is a legitimate note in the Bulk folder.
Then it's usually one of those that cousin Myrtle
FW,FW,FW,FW to me because it was cute or she isn't
taking her medications again.
On the other hand, ALL my lists, genealogy, aviation,
even advertising I have ASKED for, goes into my
"Inbox" folder. I don't know how they do it, but if I
have to start paying someday, it'll be worth it. My
ISP is a British one (onetel) which I have never used
for e-mail. Don't need to, I've got yahoo.
I don't work for Yahoo or have any connection with
them. 
Honest.
Frank

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